74 Replies to “This Is My Brother Mohammed, And This Is My Other Brother Mohammed”

  1. I thought the head Kenyan had sent NASA over to help them find their golden area of science. The shrinking leader of the United States actually did that. Madness
    This also proves the point there are no moderate Muslims.

  2. FP, it does not prove that there are no moderate Muslims. Of course There are. I have lived and worked with them. What it demonstrates is how moderate Muslims are intimidated into silence and inaction. The silence and inaction moderate Muslims means the extremists usurp the voice of their religion, and cloak it in medieval darkness. If moderates are alarmed about the growing malignant attitudes towards Muslims by non-Muslims, they need to start speaking up, and leaving mosques dominated by hotheads. Then, we will all witness the schism between moderates and extremists, and can develop more informed attitudes towards Islam.
    Imams have only the power their conjugations
    gives them. Think your imam is a bellicose hard-liner? Leave. Find another imam. Show us you disagree.

  4. Moderate Muslims (peace be upon them) cannot speak out because Islam is not moderate.
    Just read what sharia law is all about and there is nothing moderate about it.
    Nevertheless, thank God (not Allah) for moderate muslims.

  7. This just further evidence that a critical mass of Islam is stuck in the 7th century.(on stupid)
    Yeah Mo was likely a flat earther….if he bothered to think past his next murder, rape pillage….
    What we are seeing is his successful doctrine of not suppressing different doctrine but exterminating it…..
    There are strong indications that MO was totally illiterate…..
    The major belief system in Arabia prior to Mo was Hindu….with a smattering of Jews. This explains the muzzies homocidal tendencies towards Jews and Hindus.
    In the recent past, Muslims were called Mohammidens…an accurate term. In practice Muslims worship Mohammed not Allah….despite protests to the contrary.

  9. From the linked article;
    “More than a millennium before Darwin, Muslim scientists had posited ideas about species survival and generational change that bore striking similarities to Darwin’s eventual theory.”
    Really?
    Charles Darwin lived from 1809 until 1882. Now we’re told more than 1000 years before him “Muslim scientists had posited ideas about species survival and generational change”.
    Islam begins with Mohammed, around 610-632 AD.
    Which particular Muslim scientists “…posited ideas about species survival and generational change..” during the approximately 200 years between the beginning of Islam, and the beginning of the millenium before Darwin?

  11. The question I have is: How do the newsies/police know that the threats are coming from extremists/fundamentalists? What are their criteria to label someone as such?
    Also, didn’t uttering a death threat used to be against the law?

  12. gee wizz shaken, kinda like the carisssssstians did in the middle ages.
    ‘they ALL do it’.

  13. In terms of Darwinism in general, there certainly has been no evolution of Islam. In terms of social Darwinism, the stuck-in-Seventh-Century-barbarism that exemplifies the cult is successfully approaching global dominance thanks to Western appeasement, infertility, progressivism, and cultural relativism (suicide).
    Moderate Muslims are irrelevant as they can’t stand up to the murderous thugs that dominate the cult. Ask a surviving German who was not a Nazi. It’s 1935 again!

  14. A fine example of the difference between rationalization and rationality.
    Looking for rationality in these people is like mining tailings for precious metal.

  15. joscefi – it’s one of those ambient things. We’re assured, sans detail, that Muslems invented and preserved and discovered everything worthwhile (while retarded illiterate Christian thugs went about, completely unprovoked, murdering them for fun because they were jealous of civilized people who could read or something). If it is the case that Muslim societies were once so brilliant it still doesn’t make the ones today look all that good; to quote Mark Steyn from memory: “Oh, sure, the place is a dump now, but you should have been here in 1100” is a pretty lame way of bigging yourself up. But actually, I’d like some proof of all these major Islamic scientific and literary achievements.
    “Also, didn’t uttering a death threat used to be against the law?” – hey, whaddaya, a judge? Mind your business.

  16. It does seem the best approach for “Western Society” is to just step back and allow the Sunni and Shi’ite branches to “evolve” to their Westphalia Treaty moment.
    Naturally being very careful to let the antagonists realize any attempt to have Westerners become collateral damage will mean the elimination of the both leadership groups by whatever means available. Cheers;

  17. Don’t you just hate it when the last (and most important) paragraph gets cut off:
    “Middlesex Police have arrested five male suspects who are being held without bail pending their court appearances on charges of uttering death threats,etc……”

  18. Unfortunately the term ‘moderate’ actually means ‘non practicing’. The more moderate the less Islamic or Christian. The difference is that a true practicing Christian has diametrically opposing views of a practicing Muslim. The secular humanists in our midst try to paint both with the same brush.

  19. And he should be condemning the fanatics publicly not posting apologies, no wonder the Islamofacists are in charge in the West the moderates’ cower in fear at the drop of a hat. Stand up to the Wahhabi Fanatics, better yet kick the sorry SOBs out of all Mosques.

  20. “Middlesex Police have arrested five male suspects who are being held without bail pending their court appearances on charges of uttering death threats,etc……”
    Yeah Jamie, that would be more heartening if “being held without bail pending their court appearances” wasn’t going to be the sum and total of their official punishment.
    Meanwhile old farmer guys in England go to jail for several years for defending themselves from -armed-, -multiple- assailants in their own homes.
    And you wonder why the Muslim guy backed off the Darwin thing.

  21. joe said
    “The difference is that a true practicing Christian has diametrically opposing views of a practicing Muslim.”
    ah, joe, you have a rite to your opinions, even if they are wrong

  22. Not gonna happen.
    Read the Pew Global Research, 80% plus think they are victims of anti Mo sentiments.
    Ergo the leftard love-in, another victim group to cuddle and exploit! Or so they think.
    Until it blows up in their face of course.
    Then they will have to learn to love sharia.
    “They maybe SOB’s, but they are our SOB’s.” must be the underlying leftard motivation. Or something like the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
    Right, unless of course you are a woman, an agnostic, Hindu, gay, whatever else, etc.

  23. Of course I am wrong GYM that’s why you see so many marauding Mennonites storming the gates of Mecca. That’s why the mere mention of those Amish archers makes mighty men’s knees tremble. In fact if you really want to get to the heart of the matter you should read the book, Hutterite Heroes of World War Two. It gives an exhaustive list of all the great warriors that grew up in the colony. Why just today I told my Baptist Battalion to beat their plowshares into swords. Everyone kind of looked at me funny though ’cause half the people their didn’t know what a plowshare was and the other half were wondering how they were going to make Bibles out of steel.

  24. The worst a fundamentalist Christian would do if a pastor said this, is call him a heretic and kick him out of the denomination … into the waiting arms of a more liberal denomination.

  26. “The worst a fundamentalist Christian would do if a pastor said this, is call him a heretic and kick him out of the denomination”
    That’s nonsense, of course. A few hours ago I posted a comment with links to articles showing christians engaging in the same behavior. Unfortunately, it has to be “approved” before it becomes visible, so you’re unlikely to ever see the links. Rest assured that if you google “christian death threat” you’ll get plenty of related hits. Include the word “evolution” or “eucharist” if you want to narrow down the scope to the best ones.

  27. Alex, I googled “christian death threat” and got a page of death threats against Christians by Muslims and one by a gay in San Fransisco.
    We’re all people, capable of the same good and the same evil. Mostly it depends on who our leader is.

  28. So how about giving us a link to all the news stories about Christians murdering heretics, Alex? Don’t worry. We’ll wait.

  29. Saudi Imams preach that the Sun goes around the Earth. How ignorant is that? And does England have Sharia courts?

  30. Walter:
    if you google for that phrase, the very first link is titled “Christian Lunatics Issue Death Threats Over a Cracker”.
    andy:
    First of all, this article has nothing to do with people being murdered.
    Secondly, since my links have already been blocked, I’m not going to waste time trying to submit any more.
    Thirdly, every time this topic comes up, it’s the same thing: some clown asks for links, I post them, and then everyone starts making up excuses, claiming that those aren’t “real christians” or that they’re “isolated incidents”, or that “it’s because they’re not westerners” or some such nonsense. I have no interest in helping you play that game.

  31. An interesting article with “encouraging signs of polarization” as the man said.
    // we will all witness the schism between moderates and extremists, and can develop more informed attitudes towards Islam.
    […] Think your imam is a bellicose hard-liner? Leave. Find another imam. //
    Right. This also has some implications for the UK government’s colonial-derived practise of promoting leaders who are then supposed speak for all the rest [and keep them in line]. As one German muslim complained,
    // I left to get away from all that. I was just Nora. Then, suddenly, [after 9/11] I was A Muslim. //
    So the government picks a leader who is taken as speaking for “the muslim community”.
    And dissenters can’t get traction for their views.
    It appears from the quote that Islam has about the same relation to evolutionary theory as the official position of the Catholic church.

  32. Nice premise Alex, but sadly a quick External Reality Check (TM) reveals a distinct lack of militant Christian groups rounding up and killing the innocent members of other religions. Or even threatening to. Or even thinking about it.
    Go play in the traffic why don’t you?

  33. Alex, oops, thanks for the heads up. Turns out I actually Bing-ed rather than Googled. Remember that Google made its billions by biasing search results (not necessarily bad).
    The Eucharist wafer story is interesting. Reminds me of all those apoplectic Christians in the Liberal party and from the CBC speculating that PMH may have pocketed a communion wafer (3 pages of CBC search results).
    From your story: “Father Migeul Gonzalez … said the Diocese is willing to meet with Cook and help him understand the importance of the Eucharist in hopes of him returning it.”
    Doesn’t sound like a death threat. There is no substantiation to the claims of death threats. If Cook is telling the truth he should turn the evidence over to the police. (There may have been death threats, the email texts were not published, it’s not known they were authentic or just contrived …) If anything, the exception proves the rule.
    As I said before, we’re all people, capable of the same evil and the same good as anyone else. It is possible that Christians did threaten Cook. In doing so, they were not following Christ. If you look in the Book, you’ll see this is not how a follower of God is supposed to act.

  34. “There is no substantiation”
    Which is OK WalterF because Alex believes in transubstantiation.
    In other words Alex calls ’em as he sees ’em and if he don’t sees ’em he makes ’em up.

  35. So it’s about Christians threatening to kill heretics but not actually killing them. Thanks for clearing that up, Alex.

  36. I’ve been converted by Alex.
    Don’t you guys remember all of the Christian death camps and reeducation camps in 1950’s Canada and the States when the population was alot more Christian than it is today?

  37. andycanuck, That was North America and Europe. In the rest of the world, particularly USSR and China, the people were free in body and mind. They were able to share their wealth and ideas with each other so everyone was happy and content.

  38. How about we ask the Imams to decree that pi is actually 3.0 rather than 3.1415926? It would be easier to remember.

  39. Walter: no worries. I’m not sure what you’re referring to when you talk about google “biasing” search results; I know that they place “sponsored links” in more prominent locations, but, AFAIK, all search engines have traditionally done that. I prefer google because their search engine is the most simple/elegant, and seems to return the most relevant results.
    The eucharist story was a minor one – the first links I posted focused on a science teacher in Colorado who received death threats for teaching evolution. I figured that was more on-topic. I could also have gotten into the threats made against abortion providers, stem-cell researchers, atheist organizations, etc, but I figured I’d keep it simple and stick to just three links.
    You’re right that there’s no “substantiation” in that one article, but there’s also no substantiation in the article which Kate linked. Newspaper articles are a decent starting point – that’s all.
    As for this bit:
    “As I said before, we’re all people, capable of the same evil and the same good as anyone else.”
    I agree completely. It’s the rest of the readers here whom you need to convince.
    Lastly:
    “If you look in the Book, you’ll see this is not how a follower of God is supposed to act.”
    Problem is, the bible is the Big Book of Multiple Choice. A couple hundreds years ago, “a follower of God” was supposed to kill witches. You can claim that christianity outgrew that, but there are still christians TODAY killing children accused of witchcraft. Or you can claim that it’s an invalid interpretation, but then you get into semantics and arguments about who’s reading the book “properly”. At which point you may as well just toss it out entirely, since your god clearly doesn’t care about his creation enough to provide a clear guideline on acceptable behavior. I find it difficult to believe that an all knowing, all powerful, all benevolent sky-daddy decided that the best way to properly raise his children would be to get a bunch of iron-age hebrew goat-herders in the middle east to write a whackload of stories, and then – many centuries later – set up a committee of cardinals to vote on which stories are “The Truth”. Unless your god is Loki, in which case christianity makes perfect sense.

  40. The topic here was Muslims issue death threats not Christians. By the way the Muslims nutters hate atheists most of all, as a Christian they will give me the option to convert before they chop my head off. The atheist they just kill.
    Since we are comparing violence Atheist are responsible for more deaths in the last 200 years then all other isms put together. So cheers you win.

  41. I’m not going to waste my time disproving the ridiculous assertions that there are roving bands of murderous Christians, nor will I defend the erroneous premise that Islam is open to science or discussions of it. I will parrot Mark Steyn’s words, however. The “progressives” who attack Christians and conservatives are not just going after soft targets but are emboldening Islamic fanatics. Where is their courage?

  42. There once was a troll named Alex
    With a deformed, microscopical phallux.
    Whenever Muslims got killy
    He’d say “Christians do that, hillbilly!”
    His IQ was low, compared even to Mallick’s***
    ***and she’s a moron.

  46. The troll types. His words
    Dishonest and annoying.
    Soon it will be spring.
    (5,7,5, right?)

  49. The brotherhood of Islam proves Darwin was way off base. Look in the mirror my ape like friends, Muslims have not evolved for a thousand years. Unless you count getting better at blowing themselves and innocent women and children up.

  50. Alex, re: Google “biasing” search results.
    I could have said “filtering” and everyone would say, “Well, that’s what they’re supposed to do.” We expect and want search results to be filtered to be relevant. However, just as a newspaper filters the news, a search engine filters search results. One needs to be aware of the biases that the search engine incorporates.
    For example, Google “Barack Obama” and “George Bush” on two separate tabs and compare the results.

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