For the second time in two years, a rocket glitch sent a NASA global warming satellite to the bottom of the sea …
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Our next launch into space needs ‘Anthropogenic Global Warming’ scientist on board so they can peer-review the computer data,
and make in flight model changes that will work!
it’s all too clear to me the rocket failures are Gaia’s way of refusing any further treatment for her ‘disease’.
in the same manner as a terminaly ill patient in a hospice refuses any more medication…it’s as if Gaia is saying the jig is up…no further attempts toward healing can possibly have any effect…Gaia is saying ‘do not rescuscitate’….Gaia is serene and accepting of her fate…at peace finally.
let us all try to bear this burden with dignity.
sniff…sob…
ave Gaia…morituri te salutaris.
Was on Drudge yesterday
A Two-fer Neo-AGW Progress Report.
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NASSA + ACCRI + FAA = contrails.
“Now Minnis is working on the Aviation Climate Change Research Initiative, a venture of NASA and the Federal Aviation Administration to refine methods for detecting contrails and measuring their impact on climate.”
““There’s a lot of uncertainty,” Minnis said. “If it turns out to be a higher number, things might need to be done to cut back on it.””
“Increased air traffic may be a factor in climate change” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2684050/posts
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“Significant Snow This Weekend for Southeast Canada
News – Mar 5, 2011; 6:20 AM ET
A slow-moving storm system will spread a narrow swath of heavy snow across southeast Canada this weekend, even after many areas begin as rain today.”
“Kocet’s Corner: Great Plains Drifter on the Way
News – Mar 5, 2011; 6:12 AM ET
Early next week, a major winter storm will affect the central Rocky Mountain region and the Great Plains with heavy snow and gusty winds.” http://www.accuweather.com/
In fairness, Kate, it’s a lot easier to predict the global climate over the next hundred years than it is to send a satellite into space.
Actually…hold on a second…
The company (NYSE:ORB) doing the launch has had 3 out of 9 failures on this rocket, think they’ll lose their contract?
Aaron, did you comment on Drudge yesterday? SDA is my first choice for reading other people’s commentary, even though it means wasting time on your comments. 😉
Maybe AtlanticJim could dump the next one directly into the ocean for $50 million and save the American taxpayer $4 million.
They should hire Howard Walowitz to help with the rockets, why stop this stupidity now. When your able to extort taxpayers money so easy, why move into the real world when you can stay in a childlike state. Reminds me of an employee I have who still parties at 54 like a teenager.
No wonder its so cold out – these “warming satellites” keep crashing…
Three Taurus launch failures and two of them had AGW satellite payloads. Combine that with the inconvenient Argo ocean temperature data and one wonders if NASA isn’t a little relieved that the latest launch splashed.
Or my tinfoil toque could be too tight.
See? We don’t need no stinkin’ government-run space-launch capabilities! The private sector obviously works just fine!
One can only hope that this is a sabotage by someone inside who knows that AGW is an excuse to enslave us and destroy our standard of living.
Otherwise, maybe there is a god.
“We don’t need no stinkin’ government-run space-launch capabilities!”
Yeah Alex, right on! Because government rockets -never- crash!
This is what comes from “normalizing” the data and making decisions based upon modelling rather than observation and testing.
nicely said rroe
Watch “The Right Stuff” to see what NASA (and America) used to be. What both have turned into now just makes me sick.
Alex;You have a short memory.The Russians failed many times before successfully launching a rocket in space.We saw the footage after the USSR disintigrated.Bob Hope used to joke about the US launching submarines from Cape Canaveral.The more important point is that its the same people launching,whether it be private or govt.The govt.throwing money at a project and the private trying to make it affordable.
Most countries failed many times before successfully launching a rocket. That’s irrelevant when discussing a private company building on well-established technology that’s managed to fail two payload deployments in a row. This isn’t a failure due to some poorly understood aspect of rocket-powered flight – it’s sheer incompetence.
Obama said he wanted NASA to reach out to the muslims… it does appear to have had his effect. 😉
Oh MAN what a bummer.
I know the feeling because I invented a machine that was going to prove that Ron killed Nicole and then killed himself, and then I lost it.
It’s not clear, from the linked story, which party is responsible for the payload fairing on the rocket, NASA or the rocket builder. The fairing failed to open at the assigned time.
The rocket itself worked, which is why the satellite fell into the south Pacific instead of being scattered in a million tiny pieces on the tarmac at Vandenberg.
Ultimately, NASA has to carry the can for this, because it’s the second failure of the same kind, and even if the proximate cause is a lapse of some kind on the part of the contractor, the investigation of the first failure should have resulted in procedures being changed to prevent a repeat.
The clamshell did not open. Well duh, where do clams live? Everyone else uses a knife but no, you gotta use a rocket. They have done ok cooking the data so far.
Speaking of epic fail, how are our refurbished submarines working out?
(running silent??)
Hmmmmm maybe they did too much of that muslim outreach Obozo demanded NASA do.
“5, 4, 3, 2, 1 Alahu Akbar . . . Liftoff”
Foobert – good question, because if they were running we could go look for the rocket.
I wonder if there was fish poo where the rocket finally ended up?
I am relieved the the rocket’s GHG emissions were curtailed.
On the other hand, perhaps the satellite was critical to the AGW “science” community as they work on telling us how much GHG abatement is required to change the climate by one tenth of one degree celsius. Surely they must be working on these metrics, no? So we will know when we have succeeded?
What happens if we overshoot and damage crops? Shudder. They better be right or hungry people may find something else besides pigs to roast.
The subs were bought to keep the defense contractors alive nationwide and
the shipyards busy and so far they have been a huge success.
Meh for all the USEFUL information they hoped to gain they could sink the rocket to the bottom of the ocean and still claim it to be a complete success.
Designed by James Hansen no doubt. The marker for this insanity is quickly coming due, the Chinese are owed around 1.5 trill with a few trill to other creditors, they will soon start to dictate what Obongo does.
they should just “farm” this out to the chinese, as the chicoms do darn near every thing else for them:-)))
Funny, yes. Good news, no. They’ll just build another one, and waste another $400 million. Nasa’s strategy to retain funding, after space exploration became unpopular, will not be easily defeated.
A useless, political mission.
Here’s an idea – put the space program into the hands of the armed forces, which is one of the few areas of the Federal government that actually gets things done. The Air Force has been launching satellites for a long time.
The X37B was handed over to Darpa ( from NASA )and was successfully launched in 2010 by the Air Force, landed, and turned around for re-launch in 3 months, despite the need for some repairs to the vehicle.
Sooo…SDA saboteurs did in fact manage to infiltrate NASA and leave that monkey-wrench in the gearbox! Congrats, fellow co-conspirators — ring up another victory for the anti-anti-global warming counter-revolutionaries! Our utopian Banana Republic is on the horizon!
For those readers who are outside the membership of our secret urban-guerrilla cadres, “Banana Republic” is not what you think — some of us are hoping that global warming succeeds so we can actually start planting tropical fruit in Canada — the imported stuff is too expensive…
Engineering snafu
once is happenstance, twice coincidence
three time is enemy action
Somebody’s insurance premiums are going up.
They can still use the satelite.
Quick get your reasearch grant applications submitted!
Only now it will keep us updated on the impending 100% humidity threatening mankind!!
“Politician vows to increase the price of food”
OK So that is a headline that you will never see. No politician, ever, will ever promise to increase the price of food and get elected. However, this is precisely what politicians are saying. Let me explain:
Throughout human history, food has been paramount, for obvious, natural, reasons. What made us human was the use of energy, AKA fire, made that food more digestable; and this was before humans started farming. For humans, energy is more important than agriculture. Humans could only evolve to the agricultural stage of development after the control of fire, AKA energy.
So, today we have politicians insisting we should use less energy. What, exactly, are the ramifications of this policy? Well, first, food becomes more expensive, and we see that happening. The crazy policy to pay people to burn food to drive their cars is, well, crazy. Only a madman, or an anthro-phobic enviromentalist, would suggest such a thing.
Anyone who espouses reduction in the use of energy is espousing reduction in humans, and the poor humans will be hit first, But, of course, note that these policies are espoused by rich, western guys who don’t give a ….. about poor people.
and remember that ‘corn’ is the most valuable of foodstuffs for many many reasons especially the manufacture of petrochemicals…. corn’s uses are unbelievably important in this field.
so….one can expect to see increased cost being passed on to consumers because of corn futures dependent on government bio-fuel subsidies.
the law of unintended consequences strike again…
They should hire Howard Walowitz to help with the rockets, why stop this stupidity now
As it crashed, I have a feeling Mister Walowitz may have already been working on the project.
small c: the space shuttle was a failure because it was taken over by the military in the 1970s. As originally conceived, the only use for a commercial space shuttle was if it could to to geo-synchronous orbit (22,000 miles). The military didn’t care about geo-sync, it wanted very heavy payloads at 90 mile orbits for Star Wars.
So the shuttle’s design was modified to boost payload and reduce its endurance. The result was a compromise vehicle which could perform neither mission well.
I would remind you that Apollo was purely designed and operated by the civil exploration requirements of NASA, and it worked extremely well. Much closer to its design intentions than shuttle ever has.
I see James Hansen’s hands in this. It’s obviously a conspiracy in collusion with, and funded by, Big Green.
cgh – The shuttle was operated by NASA, primarily and many of its weaknesses are attributable solely to NASA design decisions. The shuttle has been vastly more expensive per launch than the unmanned vehicles favored by the Air Force.
Do you have any source for your claim that the shuttle was designed for star wars? Construction on Columbia was started in 1975, making such a claim seem implausible.
Last point: the Apollo program was not, as you say “…purely designed and operated by the civil exploration requirements of NASA…”. The Saturn rocket, upon which every Apollo shot depended, started as a DoD ARPA program to produce a heavy lift vehicle for the Air Force, and not as a NASA program, as you claim.
The F-1 engine used in the Saturn rockets for all Apollo missions up through Apollo 8 was a USAF contracted design, which NASA adopted, and made relatively small changes to for incorporation in Saturn. ( Improvements in thrust were incorporated into the original USAF design for the shots following 8.
Beyond engines, though, the USAF worked out solutions to many other technical problems of spacecraft before NASA even existed.
The USAF’s work has been absolutely necessary for NASA to perform its tasks: The lion’s share of NASA’s satellite launches and many of its legendary scientific spacecraft missions have used USAF-developed designs – Delta, Atlas, and Titan – as primary launch vehicles.
But, even if we ignore the importance of USAF developmental work to the Apollo program, we must conclude the Air Force space program has not been only very, very successful, but,
Bartinsky @ 2:52.
You don’t understand. If the US owed China a billion and a half dollars, the US might have some small problem. But if the US owes China a trillion and a half, China has the problem.
Shows the break down of technology that each civilization experiences in decline.
Fact is we have “primitive ” space craft from the 70s still sending information . Our last Moon walk was in the 70s as well. It significant that after 74 North Americans started loosing more money to taxes than gaining.
Even bamks gave up with Interest to cheat there own customers with “fee’s”.
While our new toys are like cheap make offs. As the population becomes dumbed down, so do its mechanical skills. Its industry declines or leaves. Whats left is the egg shell the yoke long ago gone.The drive & vision behind any program is paramount. There is no dream in Obama,s America. Only past achievements. Only space programs for Muslims.
All this besides the Gore effect. Makes Murphy an Obama Czar.
JMO
There’s a hole, there’s a hole, there’s a hole in the bottom of the sea. There’s a rocket in the hole in the very, very bottom of the sea…
}:-]
Our next launch into space needs ‘Anthropogenic Global Warming’ scientist on board so they can peer-review the computer data,
and make in flight model changes that will work!
it’s all too clear to me the rocket failures are Gaia’s way of refusing any further treatment for her ‘disease’.
in the same manner as a terminaly ill patient in a hospice refuses any more medication…it’s as if Gaia is saying the jig is up…no further attempts toward healing can possibly have any effect…Gaia is saying ‘do not rescuscitate’….Gaia is serene and accepting of her fate…at peace finally.
let us all try to bear this burden with dignity.
sniff…sob…
ave Gaia…morituri te salutaris.
Was on Drudge yesterday
A Two-fer Neo-AGW Progress Report.
…-
NASSA + ACCRI + FAA = contrails.
“Now Minnis is working on the Aviation Climate Change Research Initiative, a venture of NASA and the Federal Aviation Administration to refine methods for detecting contrails and measuring their impact on climate.”
““There’s a lot of uncertainty,” Minnis said. “If it turns out to be a higher number, things might need to be done to cut back on it.””
“Increased air traffic may be a factor in climate change”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2684050/posts
…-
“Significant Snow This Weekend for Southeast Canada
News – Mar 5, 2011; 6:20 AM ET
A slow-moving storm system will spread a narrow swath of heavy snow across southeast Canada this weekend, even after many areas begin as rain today.”
“Kocet’s Corner: Great Plains Drifter on the Way
News – Mar 5, 2011; 6:12 AM ET
Early next week, a major winter storm will affect the central Rocky Mountain region and the Great Plains with heavy snow and gusty winds.”
http://www.accuweather.com/
In fairness, Kate, it’s a lot easier to predict the global climate over the next hundred years than it is to send a satellite into space.
Actually…hold on a second…
The company (NYSE:ORB) doing the launch has had 3 out of 9 failures on this rocket, think they’ll lose their contract?
Aaron, did you comment on Drudge yesterday? SDA is my first choice for reading other people’s commentary, even though it means wasting time on your comments. 😉
Accident?
“Insanity is trying the same thing again and again, expecting different results.”
Albert Einstein
At least NASA succeeded with it’s ARGO programme.
http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=8926a1d3-f43f-4f8b-811d-0a0daa3e1012&k=39580
The results of these 3000 drifting buoys are vastly expanding our knowledge of ocean currents and making warmists heads explode.
This is the silver bullet….
Maybe AtlanticJim could dump the next one directly into the ocean for $50 million and save the American taxpayer $4 million.
They should hire Howard Walowitz to help with the rockets, why stop this stupidity now. When your able to extort taxpayers money so easy, why move into the real world when you can stay in a childlike state. Reminds me of an employee I have who still parties at 54 like a teenager.
No wonder its so cold out – these “warming satellites” keep crashing…
Three Taurus launch failures and two of them had AGW satellite payloads. Combine that with the inconvenient Argo ocean temperature data and one wonders if NASA isn’t a little relieved that the latest launch splashed.
Or my tinfoil toque could be too tight.
See? We don’t need no stinkin’ government-run space-launch capabilities! The private sector obviously works just fine!
One can only hope that this is a sabotage by someone inside who knows that AGW is an excuse to enslave us and destroy our standard of living.
Otherwise, maybe there is a god.
“We don’t need no stinkin’ government-run space-launch capabilities!”
Yeah Alex, right on! Because government rockets -never- crash!
This is what comes from “normalizing” the data and making decisions based upon modelling rather than observation and testing.
nicely said rroe
Watch “The Right Stuff” to see what NASA (and America) used to be. What both have turned into now just makes me sick.
Alex;You have a short memory.The Russians failed many times before successfully launching a rocket in space.We saw the footage after the USSR disintigrated.Bob Hope used to joke about the US launching submarines from Cape Canaveral.The more important point is that its the same people launching,whether it be private or govt.The govt.throwing money at a project and the private trying to make it affordable.
Most countries failed many times before successfully launching a rocket. That’s irrelevant when discussing a private company building on well-established technology that’s managed to fail two payload deployments in a row. This isn’t a failure due to some poorly understood aspect of rocket-powered flight – it’s sheer incompetence.
Obama said he wanted NASA to reach out to the muslims… it does appear to have had his effect. 😉
Oh MAN what a bummer.
I know the feeling because I invented a machine that was going to prove that Ron killed Nicole and then killed himself, and then I lost it.
It’s not clear, from the linked story, which party is responsible for the payload fairing on the rocket, NASA or the rocket builder. The fairing failed to open at the assigned time.
The rocket itself worked, which is why the satellite fell into the south Pacific instead of being scattered in a million tiny pieces on the tarmac at Vandenberg.
Ultimately, NASA has to carry the can for this, because it’s the second failure of the same kind, and even if the proximate cause is a lapse of some kind on the part of the contractor, the investigation of the first failure should have resulted in procedures being changed to prevent a repeat.
The clamshell did not open. Well duh, where do clams live? Everyone else uses a knife but no, you gotta use a rocket. They have done ok cooking the data so far.
Speaking of epic fail, how are our refurbished submarines working out?
(running silent??)
Hmmmmm maybe they did too much of that muslim outreach Obozo demanded NASA do.
“5, 4, 3, 2, 1 Alahu Akbar . . . Liftoff”
Foobert – good question, because if they were running we could go look for the rocket.
I wonder if there was fish poo where the rocket finally ended up?
I am relieved the the rocket’s GHG emissions were curtailed.
On the other hand, perhaps the satellite was critical to the AGW “science” community as they work on telling us how much GHG abatement is required to change the climate by one tenth of one degree celsius. Surely they must be working on these metrics, no? So we will know when we have succeeded?
What happens if we overshoot and damage crops? Shudder. They better be right or hungry people may find something else besides pigs to roast.
The subs were bought to keep the defense contractors alive nationwide and
the shipyards busy and so far they have been a huge success.
Meh for all the USEFUL information they hoped to gain they could sink the rocket to the bottom of the ocean and still claim it to be a complete success.
Designed by James Hansen no doubt. The marker for this insanity is quickly coming due, the Chinese are owed around 1.5 trill with a few trill to other creditors, they will soon start to dictate what Obongo does.
they should just “farm” this out to the chinese, as the chicoms do darn near every thing else for them:-)))
Funny, yes. Good news, no. They’ll just build another one, and waste another $400 million. Nasa’s strategy to retain funding, after space exploration became unpopular, will not be easily defeated.
A useless, political mission.
Here’s an idea – put the space program into the hands of the armed forces, which is one of the few areas of the Federal government that actually gets things done. The Air Force has been launching satellites for a long time.
The X37B was handed over to Darpa ( from NASA )and was successfully launched in 2010 by the Air Force, landed, and turned around for re-launch in 3 months, despite the need for some repairs to the vehicle.
Sooo…SDA saboteurs did in fact manage to infiltrate NASA and leave that monkey-wrench in the gearbox! Congrats, fellow co-conspirators — ring up another victory for the anti-anti-global warming counter-revolutionaries! Our utopian Banana Republic is on the horizon!
For those readers who are outside the membership of our secret urban-guerrilla cadres, “Banana Republic” is not what you think — some of us are hoping that global warming succeeds so we can actually start planting tropical fruit in Canada — the imported stuff is too expensive…
Engineering snafu
once is happenstance, twice coincidence
three time is enemy action
Somebody’s insurance premiums are going up.
They can still use the satelite.
Quick get your reasearch grant applications submitted!
Only now it will keep us updated on the impending 100% humidity threatening mankind!!
“Politician vows to increase the price of food”
OK So that is a headline that you will never see. No politician, ever, will ever promise to increase the price of food and get elected. However, this is precisely what politicians are saying. Let me explain:
Throughout human history, food has been paramount, for obvious, natural, reasons. What made us human was the use of energy, AKA fire, made that food more digestable; and this was before humans started farming. For humans, energy is more important than agriculture. Humans could only evolve to the agricultural stage of development after the control of fire, AKA energy.
So, today we have politicians insisting we should use less energy. What, exactly, are the ramifications of this policy? Well, first, food becomes more expensive, and we see that happening. The crazy policy to pay people to burn food to drive their cars is, well, crazy. Only a madman, or an anthro-phobic enviromentalist, would suggest such a thing.
Anyone who espouses reduction in the use of energy is espousing reduction in humans, and the poor humans will be hit first, But, of course, note that these policies are espoused by rich, western guys who don’t give a ….. about poor people.
and remember that ‘corn’ is the most valuable of foodstuffs for many many reasons especially the manufacture of petrochemicals…. corn’s uses are unbelievably important in this field.
so….one can expect to see increased cost being passed on to consumers because of corn futures dependent on government bio-fuel subsidies.
the law of unintended consequences strike again…
They should hire Howard Walowitz to help with the rockets, why stop this stupidity now
As it crashed, I have a feeling Mister Walowitz may have already been working on the project.
And in Britain, the garbage people don’t want to touch our new “efficient” light bulbs. They are “hazardous waste”.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1363448/We-pick-toxic-new-bulbs-Councils-say-energy-saving-lights-dangerous-binmen.html
Bazinga Dr. Sheldon Cooper…Bazinga
small c: the space shuttle was a failure because it was taken over by the military in the 1970s. As originally conceived, the only use for a commercial space shuttle was if it could to to geo-synchronous orbit (22,000 miles). The military didn’t care about geo-sync, it wanted very heavy payloads at 90 mile orbits for Star Wars.
So the shuttle’s design was modified to boost payload and reduce its endurance. The result was a compromise vehicle which could perform neither mission well.
I would remind you that Apollo was purely designed and operated by the civil exploration requirements of NASA, and it worked extremely well. Much closer to its design intentions than shuttle ever has.
I see James Hansen’s hands in this. It’s obviously a conspiracy in collusion with, and funded by, Big Green.
cgh – The shuttle was operated by NASA, primarily and many of its weaknesses are attributable solely to NASA design decisions. The shuttle has been vastly more expensive per launch than the unmanned vehicles favored by the Air Force.
Do you have any source for your claim that the shuttle was designed for star wars? Construction on Columbia was started in 1975, making such a claim seem implausible.
Last point: the Apollo program was not, as you say “…purely designed and operated by the civil exploration requirements of NASA…”. The Saturn rocket, upon which every Apollo shot depended, started as a DoD ARPA program to produce a heavy lift vehicle for the Air Force, and not as a NASA program, as you claim.
The F-1 engine used in the Saturn rockets for all Apollo missions up through Apollo 8 was a USAF contracted design, which NASA adopted, and made relatively small changes to for incorporation in Saturn. ( Improvements in thrust were incorporated into the original USAF design for the shots following 8.
Beyond engines, though, the USAF worked out solutions to many other technical problems of spacecraft before NASA even existed.
The USAF’s work has been absolutely necessary for NASA to perform its tasks: The lion’s share of NASA’s satellite launches and many of its legendary scientific spacecraft missions have used USAF-developed designs – Delta, Atlas, and Titan – as primary launch vehicles.
But, even if we ignore the importance of USAF developmental work to the Apollo program, we must conclude the Air Force space program has not been only very, very successful, but,
Bartinsky @ 2:52.
You don’t understand. If the US owed China a billion and a half dollars, the US might have some small problem. But if the US owes China a trillion and a half, China has the problem.
Shows the break down of technology that each civilization experiences in decline.
Fact is we have “primitive ” space craft from the 70s still sending information . Our last Moon walk was in the 70s as well. It significant that after 74 North Americans started loosing more money to taxes than gaining.
Even bamks gave up with Interest to cheat there own customers with “fee’s”.
While our new toys are like cheap make offs. As the population becomes dumbed down, so do its mechanical skills. Its industry declines or leaves. Whats left is the egg shell the yoke long ago gone.The drive & vision behind any program is paramount. There is no dream in Obama,s America. Only past achievements. Only space programs for Muslims.
All this besides the Gore effect. Makes Murphy an Obama Czar.
JMO
There’s a hole, there’s a hole, there’s a hole in the bottom of the sea.
There’s a rocket in the hole in the very, very bottom of the sea…
}:-]