Find an anti-Semite.
Director Oliver Stone belittled the Holocaust during a shocking interview with the Sunday Times today, claiming that America’s focus on the Jewish massacre was a product of the “Jewish domination of the media.”
The director also defended Hitler and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and railed against the “powerful lobby” of Jews in America.
Stone said that his upcoming Showtime documentary series “Secret History of America,” seeks to put Hitler and Communist dictator Joseph Stalin “in context.”
I can’t believe people even bother arguing this anymore.
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Jew hating as been in ascendancy for some time now in the west. Any Globe and Mail article that has the word “Jew” or “Israel” in the headline leaves a trail of several hundred ignorant, hateful, and paranoid comments.
The Islamic religious right and their useful idiots in the western atheist left have been busy busy busy.
It was only a matter of time till some leftwing, conspiracy theory prone Hollywood director (aks Stone) updated the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”.
Odd isn’t it; I always just assumed he was Jewish,I don’t know why, just a combination of looks, name, actions. Perhaps he is?
I’m torn between saying “He should be run out of the business with pitchforks, tar, and feathers” and “Give him a platform and a megaphone so people can see what a deranged lunatic he is.”
Maybe we can give him a platform while the tar is heating?
Genocide has a context?
The myth that German big business supported Hitler is long since disproved.
Meanwhile, if the Internet is free in Venezuela, allow me to say to Senor Chavez: YOU SUCK!
I used to enjoy Stone films, as … interesting … as some of them were. However, he’s now added to a growing list of Hollywood loons whose work I will boycott in future. Sean Penn, Janeane Garbuffalo, and James Cameron are prominent members of my list to date.
Mel Gibson has received megawatt press because of his anti-Semitic ramblings – wanna bet that Stone gets a pass because he votes the right way?
“Any Globe and Mail article that has the word “Jew” or “Israel” in the headline leaves a trail of several hundred ignorant, hateful, and paranoid comments.”
That is incorrect sir.
Usually it’s locked before comments even start.
How about, “one big sick asshole”. and nothing more!
I always remeber my high school French teacher. He was with Canadian Army Intelligence during WW2. Raised as a devout Quebec Catholic, he told me he did not know if there is a God but he knew there is a Satan because he interrogated him (a SS officer at a death camp). The Shoah was real and brutal. Unlike AGW, there really is no denying it.
Well, one can only hope that Hollywood’s Jews- mostly progressive as they are- finally see Stone for what he is and turn on him at least as harshly as they turned on Mel Gibson when they started to think he was a raving anti-Semite.
Stone’s “Apocolypse Now”….I have no direct knowledge but reasonably reliable heresay from IndoChina relays that the almost the entire cast/crew was constantly on the tipping point of getting busted for drug use…..which is not a clasified secret……..
I am too young to be much of a witness as to the shoah but a visit to Aushwitz is a powerful experience without reading the many plaques in several languages. The Soviets initially preserved it as anti-Nazi propaganda but that weird eirie sensation is powerfully convincing.
I have witnessed many sad, tragic things, and visited the sites of many others, which all have that same feel to them but the ambiance of Aushwitz haunts my soul.
I am neither devoit nor religious….nor knowingly superstitious….that I am aware of. If ever there be ghosts—they be there.
Hitler wasn’t such a bad guy, except for invading countries, starting a big war and killing a lot of people, he was pretty nice to folks and took good care of his dogs. All in all, a fine fellow really, but Joe Stalin was twice as nice, a real diamond in the rough, if you look beyond the purges, the mass killings, the famines and the plots to take over foreign countries, he was just one of the nicer people you could ever hope to meet. I’m sure this Ahmadinejad fellow is much the same, a very well-adjusted bloke with many interesting things to say and a real interest in religion too.
Oliver Stone is a sick sack of garbage that should be sent to live in Iran or with Chavez. He does not deserve to live in the US, and no thinking person should spend a dime on his trash.
I think most people are reacting to what they think Stone must have meant rather than what he actually said. I’ll reserve judgement until I’ve seen both the full interview and the mini-series.
‘Apocalypse Now’ was not directed by Stone. That was Francis Ford Coppola’s work, and it was filmed in the Philippines, not Indochina.
Pfffft. I don’t care what he said. I’ve thought he was a lunatic for years, him trying to put the Holocaust in “context” is just more evidence to throw on the top of a really big pile.
Total non-event for the MSM, move along, nothing to see here. @-holes.
Another one to put on the blacklist and refuse to support with my money.
But Mel Gibson is the official Hollywood left poster boy for antisemitism??
One comment from a book on Stalin I always remember was when an aide asked him why he was continuing with the purges when there was no enemy that he could see. Stalin replied that the purges keep the population on their toes. We are talking about the death of thousands of people. The left truly are the height of evil.
Stone is just one of a long, long list of admirers and followers of these beasts including our own Trudeau noting who is the Turdeau’s spawn personal hero, old Uncle Fidel Castro.
Of course us peasants on the conservative right obviously don’t see the bigger picture of the world utopia as seen by POS like Stone.
I see the bigger picture, he’s irrelevant.
Here is the truth about the collusion of Hitler and Stalin:
http://www.archive.org/details/TheSovietStory
No wonder a committed communist (Stone) wants to apologize for both.
I think Stone directed “Platoon”.
“America’s focus on the Jewish massacre was a product of the “Jewish domination of the media.””
And the criminalization of holocaust denial is a product of Jewish domination of the western capitalist world in general.
Everybody knows this, why is it even debated?
If we dominated the media, as Stone claims, he wouldn’t have a career, and Showcase, which is giving him a platform for his propaganda, would be shut down.
Stalin’s stories of paranoid mass murder are mind numbingly legion – but one that always stuck with me was when he gave speeches they had to have a red light turn on at some point for the audience as a signal to cease clapping. Otherwise they would clap on and on and on – no one dared to be the first one to stop.
I know this OT but I picked it up off HillBuzz – the Saturday thread – 3 large ranches in Texas have been “invaded” by Mexican drug lords. Does anyone have more information or is this a hoax??
Johanne, I think it’s been debunked. Besides, they don’t have to invade; they just have to buy.
As to the Holocaust, it doesn’t take much to be convinced it’s real. I travelled to Germany in the 80s on exchange and actually stayed with a host family in Dachau. My visit to the camp was an eye-opener, to say the least, but what still sticks with me today is the insitutional guilt felt by the German people, especially the older ones. That more than anything should be a convincing factor for people: If the Germans–the perpetrators–believe it so strongly, who are we to tell them they don’t know what they’re talking about?
At this point, though, I think they’re wrong-headed with their laws regarding Nazi symbology and whatnot, much like the stupidity of criminalising denialism, but that’s their lookout.
Oliver Stone I used to think was just a little weird. Now, I’d have to say he’s no longer worth thinking about. World War II history has always been a hobby of mine, so to see this kind of revisionism really disgusts me. What possible context could you have to justify what Hitler and Stalin did?
Marc, to repeat, he is trying to cover up this story coming out about the collusion of Hitler and Stalin:
http://www.archive.org/details/TheSovietStory
It will discredit anything “socialist” and that is why Stone is working fast and furious to bring out a glitzy Hollywood production.
This is the reason General Eisenhower wanted everything about the death camps filmed and dicumented. As he so eloquently stated: “I don’t want some SOB being able to deny this ever happened”…or words to that effect!
Obliging of Stone to dig his own grave like that. Usually apologist for despots have more brains than to be so honest about their true sentiments.
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[…..This is the reason General Eisenhower wanted everything about the death camps filmed and dicumented. As he so eloquently stated: “I don’t want some SOB being able to deny this ever happened”…or words to that effect!……]
The shoah is unique in that it is most thoroughly documented crime in history. Oddly enough the vast majority of the evidence at the Nuremburg Trials were Nazi records documents and photos.
I look forward to illegally downloading Oliver Stones latest film and watching it for FREE so that not one penny of my money goes to that vile POS,commie-loving,anti-western commie.
But Bush is the really evil one.
Watched Colour of War and an American soldier said a few days after the end of the war, they were taken to one of the death camps. Eisenhower wanted large numbers of witnesses to the horror as he knew there would come such a time as this. Although I doubt he could have foreseen that it would be Americans such as Stone who would become among the most vile and vehement deniers.
Stone, as an apologist for Hitler and Stalin, has signed his own death sentence.
Watching supporters of the mosque proposed for the 9/11 area on Hannity last night, it’s obvious that Satan is busy right now spreading raving madness. Using freedom of expression and religion as their excuse, these people are embracing lunacy as if it is a new religion. It is sad but true: inmates of the asylum for the terminally insane are taking over the seats of power. May God have mercy on us.
gellen, I distinctly remember watching years ago the actual newsreel filmed by US Army cameramen, of Eisenhower touring a Nazi death camp for the first time. Piles of corpses all around, as horrific a picture as you could imagine.
But the look on Eisenhower’s face spoke volumes. Disgust and a lot of barely contained anger. Eisenhower’s family was of German ancestry, as their name indicates. He was quoted after the tour as saying “This makes me ashamed my name is Eisenhower.”
Doug,
I wish I had time to watch that right now, but I can’t say I’m surprised. Until that idiot Hitler attacked Russia, he and Stalin were “bosom” buddies, so I can easily see them colluding. I mean, if you’re already engaged in an internal pogrom, what’s one more group added to the list of proscriptions?
That being said, I don’t like trying to guess at motivations. He may be doing it to cover up/deflect from these revelations, or he may be doing it simply because he believes in it. Or some other reason. I don’t discount your assertion, but without further evidence, I’m more likely to stick with the stupidity vs malice argument.
For the life of me Kate, I can’t fiqure out why Jews bloc-vote Democrat. Maybe this time, with Barry Soetoro, they have seen the light ?
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I also had assumed Stone was Jewish. According to his Wikipedia entry:
“Stone was born in New York City, the son of Jacqueline (née Goddet) and Louis Stone, a stockbroker.[2] He grew up affluently and lived in townhouses in Manhattan and Stamford, Connecticut. His father was Jewish and his mother a Roman Catholic of French birth, and Stone was raised an Episcopalian as a compromise[3] but has since converted to Buddhism. Stone attended Trinity School before his parents sent him away to attend The Hill School, an exclusive college-preparatory school in Pottstown, Pennsylvania. His mother was often absent and his father made a big impact on his life; father-son relationships were to feature heavily in Stone’s films.[4] His parents divorced when he was 15, due to his father’s extramarital affairs with the wives of several family friends.[5] Stone’s father was also influential in obtaining jobs for his son, including work on a financial exchange in France, where Stone often spent his summer vacation with his maternal grandparents – a job that proved inspirational to Stone for his movie Wall Street. Stone eventually graduated from The Hill School in 1964.”
It’s actually a very interesting bio. Among the highlights, on the plus side, he volunteered for combat in Vietnam and served honorably, in fact earning a Bronze Star. On the minus side: New York, Hollywood, drugs, socialism, paranoia, dishonesty, New Agery.
Jews represent less than 1% of the world’s population. How could they possibly influence any government outside of Israel?
America provides aid to Israel. Yet, the US sends even more money to the enemies of Israel. How is this not balanced? Should it matter that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East and the enemies of Israel are fascist theocracies that deny women and non-Muslims equal rights? Why does this not seem to matter to “Jew-controlled American foreign policy?”
Of course Stone did not mention any specific US policy mandates that are to be blamed on American Jews. Those who engage in contemporary anti-Semitism have no details to offer, just antagonistic statements. This is simply a new twist on the old Nazi propaganda. “Jews are mendacious. They control too much. They own too much. They plan world domination.” Strangely, no one can offer any logical way that less than 1% of the world’s population can gain control over everything.
Israel has been attacked repeatedly in every decade since its inception, in 1948. How would you defend your legal home from suicide bombers and daily rocket attacks? What would you have Israel do, surrender and walk away from their ancestral homeland? Since giving Gaza to Palestinians in 2005, more than 4,000 rockets have been launched from that land into Israeli cities and towns, aimed at defenseless Jewish women and children. And people have the chutzpah to call Israel “aggressive.” The world has become difficult to understand. I’m sure that my family thought the same thing, before they were marched into Nazi gas chambers.
Charles Weinblatt
Author, Jacob’s Courage
http://jacobscourage.wordpress.com/
CJ – Thanks for that, don’t know why I couldn’t find it, I did look, but in the wrong place obviously. Of course, Wikipedia is not Gospel (or should I say O.T.?) but we can at least give him credit for whatever he did right. However, I don’t know how Episcopalian can be a compromise betwixt Judaism (Orthodox or Reformed)and Roman Catholicism though we can agree it is neither of the other
I guess anti-semitism is only wrong when Mel Gibson does it.
(sigh)
Why isn’t this story covered in any liberal sites?
Nathan – ’cause even most liberals aren’t as nuts as Oliver Stoned, and they sense that covering him would make them look bad.
Colin from Mission B.C.
We have the same laundry list I see. If Hollywood is not pushing Witchcraft to kids its revising history. Just look at what they have done to the Grim fairy tales. Meant as teaching tools in a dangerous World. They have become insidious candy coated lies with no truth. In Disney or Hollywood its always a good ending ,unless its a Political picture. The Conservative is ALWAYS the black hat. Marxism always triumphs against Capitalism. Collectivism mends all problems.
Parents are at best an irrelevance. At worst the abusers with the leftist Teacher of Tolerance (Only for people they approve of) the hero.
JMO
Stone has earned his place in the VIP box with Michael Moore and Jimmy Carter at the next DNC. They are all part of Codevilla’s “American Rulling Class”.
…way too many neutron detour signs
I can’t wait to watch – downloaded of course – this new Oliver Stone movie.
For some reason I doubt it will be a masterpiece like Scarface was.
– by way of example.. ‘neuron’ not ‘neutron’
Another Calgary Marc, it is indeed easy to imagine Hitler and Stalin colluding on the holocaust, but there is no evidence that they did so, and it’s the sort of thing where we would have seen evidence if there were any. The decision to exterminate the Jews was only made after the conquest of Russia had begun, and as a consequence of eliminating Russia as the last remaining refuge for Jews in Europe. And no one today, including most significantly those few who have gone through the Soviet archives, seriously believes that Stalin was in any way complicit in the German invasion, which took him completely by surprise and shook his confidence for the only time in his career.
So, all we can say is, they were peas in a pod morally, but they didn’t co-operate on this. Some years after the war Stalin apparently did contemplate some large-scale action against the Jews, but he died before it could even reach the planning stage so we will never know just what he had in mind.
Your moral and intellectual betters!??
Oliver Stone …
Father: Louis Stone. Jewish-American; met Stone’s mother when he was aide to General Dwight D. Eisenhower in France during WWII; had several extramarital affairs with the wives of several family friends; divorced from Stones mother; died in 1986
Now just what part of that little tidbit has something to do with a high degree of acceptance re: German Fascists…. ?
Or this …
“Born on the Fourth of July” (1989) and “J.F.K.” (1991). Because of his anti-establishment bent – brought about by two tours in Vietnam and a short stint in prison on smuggling charges – many of Stone’s critics automatically dismissed a bulk of his films as being nothing more than the paranoid rantings of a conspiracy theory nut.
Sober examination however… blah blah …. Reveals a thorough D!ckhead
Or just your run of the mill Daddy Hatin’ Mo’fo…?