Is there a JournoList for climate researchers? Tom Nelson notices something odd;
Can everyplace really be warming much faster than everyplace else?
(Well, faster than Chile, at least.)
h/t Don B.
Is there a JournoList for climate researchers? Tom Nelson notices something odd;
Can everyplace really be warming much faster than everyplace else?
(Well, faster than Chile, at least.)
h/t Don B.
You spelt it wrong … that’s Chilly.
It’s the Lake Wobegon effect. Lake Wobegon – where all of the children are above average.
Consensus science means, corrupt science.
They have taken a procedure of observing Natural law threw rules, to a new Religion.
Frankly its to the point. That when I hear the word expert, it causes a cringing feeling in my guts. The use of The Experts agree spiel, always brings the fresh smell of BS wafting threw my nostrils.
I know where in bad shape when that occurs.
For hysteria is sure to follow. There’s money to be made. Cons to run, peers to bribe.
Must be one of those minor hiccup money related thingies.It must be warming, there are smaller chips in Germany ( if you want to call the usual 2 incher a chip) and fish kills in Russia. However the places that are cooler have somehow vanished.
We could call it Kate’s Law.
Any place is always hotter than every other place.
Any expert is always smarter than every other expert.
Any Liberal is brighter than every other Conservative.
Everyplave Else is that town where the weather station is actually working correctly.
Most of the reputed “observed warming” of the 20th century has been shown to be UHI (Urban Heat Island) effect….and James Hanson adjustments—such as removing rural temperature stations from the calculations.
South America has a climate emergency bigtime….that cold air mass extended north of the equator….
It is similar to Orson Welles’ “War of the Worlds” extended over a decade and a half….with greater panic due to much wider media coverage.
The bogus freon/ozone hole thingy was just a trial run we are still paying for….and inflicted with.
Its hot on America’s Eastern Seaboard and its hot in Toronto, that’s all the Warmies need to keep their story rolling. Who cares that its record cold in South America, when its 101 in Noo Yawk?
and because everyplace is heating up faster than everywhere else. everywhere else is cooler. and averaging everwhere else must be cooling , thus climate change .
like changing underwear but getting to tax it.
It was reported by Environment Canada that Western Canada just experienced the warmest June on record. This past June there were 14 days of rain and 5 other days so overcast it may as well have been raining. Do you see why people have zero faith in David Philips and the alarmist statements of Environment Canada?
If you really want to see accurate temperature information and forecasts made with reasonable (and largely accurate) assumptions, look at the electricity and gas marketing companies. They can’t afford to be wrong, because it directly affects their bottom lines. I know someone who works at one, and she reports that around here, temperatures have been colder than average for the last several months, including June. Go figure.
409 people have died in Peru from the current cold snap
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=361111&CategoryId=14095
Hot huh? My furnace was still coming on at the end of June and I have it set at 16C. A friend had to light his fireplace in early July – and this is on the West Coast. Everything the ‘experts’ state and the MSM repeats is pure, unadulterated BS. But I forgot, T.O. is the centre of the universe, at least as far as the Canadian media is concerned.
Dear Mr. Nold:
My David has been having a tough go of it lately. He still thinks of himself as a ‘climatologist’, (we chuckle at that too, hee hee!) but it makes him happy.
I remember back when he was just a weatherman, and we gave him this pocket thermometer. Why, he’d carry it around constantly, regularily referring to it, then tucking it away in his back pocket.
He still treasures it immensely. But lately, it seems his ‘back pocket’ has been supplanted by his anus! (I know, I know, it sounds like an episode from Family Guy!) But he’s really convinced there’s runaway temperature rise, and global warming is happening!
You may think this is trivial, but you don’t have to buy him new underwear every week!
Yours truly
Mrs. Phillips
I have no idea if the whole earth is getting warmer or colder. However, I do know that when it is warm, I am happier than when it is cold. Its that simple.
Starting a thread on climate changed based on some opinion articles? Politics, sure..but you can’t argue the science of climate based on opinion and politics.
Common now…Christopher Booker for god’s sake? The guy is a turd, a talking head, a loser. I know it’s hard to separate opinion from logical information, but at least try. It is so simple minded and irrational to judge climate on weather…Yes, it’s cold in Chile…IT’S WINTER!!!! Climate change breeds instability…the word ‘change’ is synonymous with ‘instability’. The overall global trend over the century has still been warming. Human’s are still doing dumb and irrational things, polluting our resources, mismanaging our resources, stagnating technologically, wasting while others starve and suffer.
I don’t think this state of affairs can last much longer in climate science, which after all is embedded in some real sciences. Expect some fairly sudden and sweeping changes in the oversight of these global climate research programs, because it’s becoming increasingly clear that something very fishy is going on, and has been for about ten years now.
The way I see it, the AGW theory started off as a real concern, started to spiral out of control in the 1990s with overblown predictions, then had to invent a whole new science of dodgy observational data sets to justify the continuation of grant moneys. Without those, many of the boffins would have been tossed out on the street to look for real work.
Meanwhile, the percentage of the general public and (behind the scenes) non-climate-research meteorologists with grave doubts about the AGW theory has been growing steadily and probably stands at about 70% which starts to cross the ideological divide that used to sustain the make believe. When that happens, a stampede could develop at any moment because all the “trendies” who don’t do their own thinking realize that they are about to be shoved off the lifeboats.
I expect that all hell will break loose later this year or in 2011 within the upper echelons of the atmospheric sciences, a group of people who were not all involved in this AGW scam and who in some cases have been waiting for an opportunity to clean house. The hot summer in the eastern U.S. may delay this inevitable process by giving them life support for a few more months, but I really think this episode is about to take a very surprising turn. It just goes against the history of science to expect this malarkey to continue much longer.
And as for warmest June on record, that has to be pure fiction. Maybe some place in Nunavut was warmer than normal but nobody lives there anyway, the prairies were cold and wet, so was B.C. for that matter (July has been much better here).
I know what some of these climate people are like, they somehow got the idea they were much smarter than everyone else (the fruitfly effect, no doubt) and they haven’t bothered to hide it with individuals in their way (like me, who dared to criticize conventional wisdom), so I can well imagine that they use the Sarah Palin analogy as all liberals tend to do, to imagine that the ordinary folk who pay the bills are maybe 10% as bright as they are, when actually it’s more like 310% — and they seem about as far off on their temperature estimates too.
A five-year stint calibrating thermometers at Mould Bay should sort them out.
as usual it’s the article’s comments section where the real insanity of AGW is put on display.
“Yes, it’s cold in Chile…IT’S WINTER!!!!”
BTJ
That’s at least the second time you make that enlighten comment. I agree it’s winter in the Southern hemisphere but would you agree it’s much colder and snow is covering areas that have never or ultra rarely seen any in the past?
Why is it that your clan always bring to light the hot moments/areas but shrug off as to say “It’s natural” when it comes to cold weather?
Would’nt it be as valid to point UNNUSUALLY cold as it is for you guys to point out UNNUSUALLY hot?
I’m starting to believe it has something to do with what I would call the “baby seal syndrome”…Screams to save the CUTE baby seals which are in overpopulation anyway but not a peep for YUCKY LOOKING bats, snakes and vultures which some are slowly dissapearing.
Cold and snow reminds them of pristine white trees and lawns and reminds of the christmas holidays, horse draw buggies, egg nug and grandma’s pies. The cute polar bear (Man’s most dangerous predator on earth) comes to mind too. Heat (Which relates to fire) has been made to be evil by the many years of “global warming is going to kill us” megaphones, IMO. Fire relates to hell too.
So the Gores and the Suzukis along with their “scientist” cheerleaders/UN/IPCC don’t use the colder equation into their “climate change” mantra because it would have very little impact on their continuous extortion IMO.
BTJ,
I bet you the cold spell in the Southern hemisphere kills lots more people than the hot weather in the northern hemisphere…But we won’t hear a peep in the medias about it.
And that’s the main reason why your “science” is seen by an increasing amount of ordinary people as purely BS or at least not worth the billions of dollars dumped into it’s research which Manmade C02 is but noise in the grand scheme of climate.
BTW…WE ARE STILL AWAITING YOUR LINKS FOR:
“Climate change breeds instability…the word ‘change’ is synonymous with ‘instability’.”
Where is the proof that it’s more unstable than in the past? What is the “stable” range? Is there a chart for that? Where is the proof that man is making it “unstable”? Link please.
“The overall global trend over the century has still been warming”
You keep repeating that…Where’s the link? You want to be taken seriously, then lINKS , LINKS, LINKS.
“Human’s are still doing dumb and irrational things, polluting our resources, mismanaging our resources, stagnating technologically, wasting while others starve and suffer.”
Careful, your bleeding heart is showing here…It makes for irrational thoughts and actions which makes one fall victim to other forms od extortion, like RELIGION.
Emotions and science should not mix…Read the “Cute baby Seal syndrome” up above for more on that.
RHTT, he’s a kid. He’s a warming keener, and you’re not going to get sense out of him.
BTJ\
its not that cold in Chile. the furthest south part of Chile is the same distance as Edmonton is north, but has the benefit of the ocean, mean temp for the southern most tip of Chile in July +1
pay attention.
“I agree it’s winter in the Southern hemisphere but would you agree it’s much colder and snow is covering areas that have never or ultra rarely seen any in the past?”
Ok, for sure, so now explain how extreme, unusual, unstable climate/weather patterns are not consistent with climate change. Change by definition MUST go through ‘instability’ to some degree.
“Would’nt it be as valid to point UNNUSUALLY cold as it is for you guys to point out UNNUSUALLY hot?”
Ya, except the overall trend balances our in favor of unusually hot…there will be unusual global energy interactions/states with a changing climate, that must mean both hot and cold.
“Climate change breeds instability…the word ‘change’ is synonymous with ‘instability'”
Does this really need a link? Change BY DEFINITION means to become instable.
The opposite of change is equilibrium:
equilibrium: a STABLE situation in which forces cancel one another
Change:’To become different or undergo alteration’
‘To undergo transformation or transition’
‘A transformation or transition from one state, condition, or phase to another’
An antonym for change is stability.
“Where is the proof that it’s more unstable than in the past? What is the “stable” range? Is there a chart for that? Where is the proof that man is making it “unstable”? Link please.”
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/do_nmap.py?year_last=2010&month_last=6&sat=4&sst=1&type=trends&mean_gen=1212&year1=1980&year2=2009&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=1200&pol=reg
“your bleeding heart is showing here”
Bleeding heart? I was not expressing compassion my friend, rather the opposite…contempt.
Peter O’Donnell, I sure hope you’re right. I’m greatly concerned by the fact the warmists have effectively doubled down and are flagrantly, blatantly lying. I’m afraid they’re going to coerce the scientific community into going along with them. Real science doesn’t have the money or the power; they only have the truth and no way to get it before the critical mass of the public. I can all too easily imagine the warmists – who have the money, the power and the control of the message – taking science down.