The Toronto Star reports:
By 2031, the Toronto region’s white population will be the new “visible minority,” according to a Statistics Canada study.
The city and its suburbs are expected to surpass the 50 per cent visible minority mark in 2017. By 2031, almost 63 per cent of the region’s population will be from a visible minority community, says the study released Tuesday.
What it doesn’t report:
By 2031, nearly one-half (46%) of Canadians aged 15 and over would be foreign-born, or would have at least one foreign-born parent, up from 39% in 2006.
Of course, 71% of that near-half will be residing in the country’s, erm, 3 biggest cities. (The bulk of that, obviously, in the biggest.) So maybe the Toronto-centric focus here is, actually, you know, pretty much kinda sorta correct.
Which is weird.
… And kinda suggests this story deserves a lot (a lot) of attention.
(Consider this too.)
And naturally, this is reflected in the diversity of the highest ranks of management at TorStar.
Well what do you expect? Don’cha know that white liberals, the kind that constitute the white population of Toronto, are metro-sexual non-breeders? Breeding, to a liberal’s mind, is a task best left for the underclass coloureds and mental deficient conservatives.
They had the same story yesterday at CTV-Montreal, because Montreal is also slowly becoming less and less white.
I tried asking a question in the comment section and it got me 3 hostile anti-white comments.
One of them called me a white-racist for being worried my race – the white race – was going extinct.
People openly show hatred of white people in comment sections and then call me a racist???!!!
Tell me this is a bad dream?…
SAfrican top party: Song not about killing whites
(AP) – 2 hours ago
JOHANNESBURG — South Africa’s governing party says a leading member didn’t mean it literally when he sang about killing whites.
African National Congress Youth League leader Julius Malema is often in the news for his fiery rhetoric and flashy lifestyle. Tuesday, South African media reported he led University of Johannesburg students in the song, “Shoot the boere, they are rapists.” Boere is farmers in Afrikaans, the language of white South African descendants of early Dutch settlers.
Afrikaners and others accuse Malema of inciting violence against whites. Ishmael Mnisi, an ANC spokesman, told The Associated Press Wednesday the song challenges those who do not want to see change in a society still divided by race.
Mnisi says it is not “a call to kill people.”
Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jU-dnZJ5RKS3TZsz8rbErA4DQd3wD9EBPDF00
Here is the comment that apparently makes me a racist.
»…In 1900 white people were 30% of total planet populaton.
In 2000 white people were 15 % of total planet population.
It is expected that by 2100 white people will represent about 3% of total planet population
Can anyone tell me how this is good news?…»
people in the comment section at CTV-Montreal are happy that the white race is slowly dying, openly show hatred for white people and this makes me the racist???
This is depressing…
Joe, good summary.
We live in Kelowna, BC, and have a u-pick operation in the summer that attracts many tourists. Most of the visitors who are from Toronto tell us they want to get the hell out of the city.
When it comes to immigration Canada is a slow motion version of the train wreck that is occurring in Europe.
As to getting Canadian families to have a few more kids, simple measures would help significantly, such as permitting income splitting. The existing tax code in effect says that a stay-at-home parent is worth nothing to society. So who would want to have kids? We are surprised and saddened by how many couples we know who have zero interest in having children.
Also Canadian university graduate schools, at least in engineering, are *heavily* lopsided in favour of importing students from the Middle East, a point I won’t rehash since I have made it before. Our graduate schools have become one of the main (easy) gateways into Canada.
Oh, come on, people. You’re an immigrant from China or Taiwan – where are you going to choose to live? Toronto or Vancouver, where there’s plenty of other Chinese, lots of good Chinese restaurants, and ethnic groceries that sell the foods you’re used to eating, or Fort McMurray, where there’s none of these? Same thing with the Indians and Tamils; there are parts of Brampton and Scarborough that are nearly 100% Indian or Tamil. Again, where would you geniuses suggest they move? Dauphin? Gander?
People move where they will feel comfortable, not where they’re going to stick out like a sore thumb. They like to be surrounded by people who speak their language, who go to their temples, who eat their food. It’s already hard enough to adjust to a Canadian winter without having a network of family and friends nearby. If any of you emigrated to India, you’d probably try to find a place where a white minority lived.
Lighten up, and use a little common sense.
Friend of USA at March 10, 2010 1:36 PM
……openly show hatred for white people…
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Doesn’t everybody know that people of colour are the absolute WORST racists on Earth?
I attended the OPCP AGM in Ottawa,where at the candidate nomination policy session a South Asian demanded that a portion of the seats within the party be racially guaranteed. OPCP president Ken Zeise stopped the nonsense before it got out of control.
What to bet that the Libs/Dippers will adopt such a policy as they have already proclaimed their seats will be gender designated.
The thing Quebecers are finding alarming is not that Montreal is becoming less white… its becoming less French. Like, way less. Pretty soon Chinese and Hindi speakers will be looking to outnumber French speakers.
Long before that happens you will see the Federal bureaucracy do something completely crazy and totalitarian to keep Montreal speaking French. A federal Bill 101 or something of the sort. Maybe even curbs on immigrating to Quebec.
Meanwhile, 20 miles outside Toronto you won’t see any other color than lily white. Toronto is a city-state at this point, completely different from the rest of the province in demographics and politics, and it should be acknowledged as such.
As in Toronto should be its own province, Ontario provincial taxes should be held separate from Toronto’s, and the capital of the province should move to Brantford, or Kingston, or Simcoe, or even Hamilton.
It goes without saying that said taxes should be half or a quarter of their current levels. Without Hogtown consuming all the goodies, there’ll be tons of money for everything else. Let the bastards pay for their own transit and garbage collection, let them have their own judical system instead of screwing up mine, and let them pay for their own welfare/unemployment crap themselves.
Like to see Mayor Dave’s face when they tell him he can’t suck money out of the whole rest of the province to pay his welfare budget. That’d be a beauty.
KevinB, I just have to respond.
I live in small city Saskatchewan. From here it’s an hour drive from any city with large retailers like Walmart or Canadian Tire.
A couple of years ago, there were zero Filipinos in the area. Then a farm here started importing migrant workers for the summer. Three years later, estimates are that there are 80 Filipino immigrants in the area, and they are all happy to be here. They are happy to take the jobs that many would turn their noses up at (like fast food jobs). Some of them have even been recruited to work in the hospitals and care homes as nurses.
In short, people will go where they are comfortable, it is true, but many will create their own communities wherever they go. With the Filipinos here, they are integrating and adapting, and I have every expectation that they will begin opening businesses or finding ways to provide for their own niche needs that nobody else is providing.
Friend of USA – people are not going extinct. What concerns you?
This isn’t alarming news in the least. We need more people in this country, and we’re getting those people, many of whom are *young* professionals, from around the world. I welcome this reality because I want continue to continue to thrive economically and culturally.
KevinB my parents were immigrants from South Africa, and while they were always glad to stumble across other South Africans, or find South African goodies to eat, they tried earnestly to be part of Canadian culture. Never complained once.
It’s a different way of thinking, and it is based on respect for the country that has graciously allowed you in.
Sorry to say it, but many Canadian immigrants view the country primarily as a blank slate on which they can impose their own culture.
When I was at the University of Waterloo the crap that went on there would have boggled your mind. Elmasry ran his own little immigration department, and the students he brought in were so disrespectful of Canada that it would have made you sick to your stomach. Many of those students are now themselves professors at Canadian universities, running their own little immigration departments.
Unfortunately multiculturalism as defined by Trudeau does not permit nuanced debate. That is its chief weapon. You are either all for it 100%, or you are categorized as an unreasonable racist bastard.
Mr.g said,
»…Doesn’t everybody know that people of colour are the absolute WORST racists on Earth?…»
The comment section at CTV does not represent all the people in the world.
All I know is that hatred of a race and celebrating the fact it is going into extinction is definitely racism.
White people are a minority on this planet – and our numbers are shrinking everyday – when the day comes that white people only represent 3% of the total population, and that many non-whites show open hatred and racism towards whites,
will the human right commission defend us white people as a visible minority?
KevinB said: “If any of you emigrated to India, you’d probably try to find a place where a white minority lived.”
Tell you what Kevin, I did emigrate to the USA, and I did NOT try to find other Canadians to hang out with. I went and lived in the most quintessentially American place left, Arizona. When I bought my first house my next door neighbors were a black family.
If I went to India it would be because North America sucked so hard I had to escape. I’d get myself set up with a job and learn the language ASAP. And if anybody gave me a hard time because I’m a white Canadian, I’d smack his head. Common sense, right?
I fail to see why I’m some kind of evil person for expecting the same from people who come here from other places, and frankly the suggestion is beginning to burn my thrusters a bit.
Come to Canada to be a Canadian or piss off. Not an unreasonable expectation, IMHO.
The three major urban centers, Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver, becoming less white in the near future does not bode well in the political arena. Given the number of federal seats that each have, especially Toronto, the political landscape will be altered, and the rest of the country will be catering to these three cities.
This does not sit well with me.
Friend of USA, exactly right.
If you want to see how things might go, look at Zimbabwe for a time-lapse view.
Look at some suburbs of London and Paris.
Hell last year I went to an East Indian grocery store here in Kelowna and the racist bastard at the counter wouldn’t even serve me.
The examples are there for all to see. People just don’t want to look.
I am first generation Canadian, my parents strove from their beginnings in Canada to be an asset working hard to integrate. They turned their backs on their birthplace as the communists chased them out.
My parents are proud of their Canadian citizenship, they worked hard became successful meeting PM Diefenbaker and PM Mulroney.
Research in the United States, however, suggests that this is a mistaken premise and that immigrants think immigration levels should be lowered.
We have a similar thing here on Vancouver Island. When people move here from elsewhere, the first thing they do is work against further development that would bring more people here. It is the now that I have arrived, close the doors.
Otherwise, my thought is that eventually the white person will be removed from the diversity shelf.
I some respects we are giving the jungle back to the Monkeys. Not all who are coming here will want to keep the current culture now will they? Many will simply want to re establish the cesspools they left behind.
Perhaps the Native Land Claims will finally be settled by a largely, Muslim, Chinese, East Indian parliament. That’s bad news for Tonto.
GaryInWpg – based on population, those cities are under-represented as it is. You won’t be catering to those three cities as they will comprise the majority of Canada (and nearly do already). btw, I’m pretty sure Vancouver is already 50%+ visible minority, and it is IMO one of the best cities in the country.
TJ – I’ve never been denied service for being white, and I can count on one hand the times I’ve felt anything resembling discrimination based on my disturbingly translucent skin. I just can’t relate to your anecdote at all. I don’t see where the alarm is.
Friend of USA – white people aren’t going extinct; people are not going extinct. People are calling you a racist because you’re preoccupied with the concept of race when it really doesn’t matter. They’re overreacting… but so are you.
Tindall,
People are not going extinct?
Tell that to the Incas and the Mayas, and a couple other races that we know for a fact have gone extinct.
Never mind extinction; white people will be a visible minority in many western nations by the end of this century.
Will human rights commissions defend our rights as a visible minority?
Tindall we have old family friends in Zimbabwe whose daughter was raped, and then the daughter and parents were burned to death. Why? One reason: they were white.
Affirmative action is institutionalized racism against whites.
The list goes on. Open your eyes.
TJ at March 10, 2010 1:39 PM.. said..
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When it comes to immigration, Canada is a slow motion version of the train wreck that is occurring in Europe. ‘ ‘
Yes, but it is up to us to inform our politicos about happenings and point to the solutions.
Those with their hands on Canada’s levers of power simply can’t find the time to be aware of coming storms.
Meetings, debates..[yelling matches], telephone conferences, snoozing in the house, business travel to Florida, Costa Rica, NYC, south of France. Favours and job appointments to realatives and friends.
Becoming fully informed? Not likely.
We have to guide our MPs to enact laws that slow or minimize problems like the Muslim riots in France.
Face / identity covering as with burka, belaclava or bandanna must be outlawed in Canada.
Did you notice in the earlier part of the televised Vancouver Olympics street scenes of window smashing, the chain swinging vandals wore black face coverings?
Masks mean police can not be fully effective. Security cameras become useless. Government clerks, druggists, elections officers,customs agents, airport security and many others can not do their jobs well or with security.
This is just one example. You likely are aware of some preventive action we could take just from what happens to be your point of view or special interest.
Make a string of 6 MPs for your CC email.
One email from you talks to 6 or more, so if two or more discuss it, you win.
This comment is an email of mine, for instance… MPs will get my drift here.
The first thing that came to my mind was, I wonder if Caucasians will then become protected under the Human Rights commission – will Caucasians be able to check that little box that asks are you are visible minority? Will Caucasians be chosen over another applicant with the same qualifications because Caucasians are now a visible minority, or is 2031 the year the Human Rights Commission will be declared obsolete, having accomplished its purpose?
It is unsurprising that this is being framed in legacy media as being about “race”. I suppose it is interesting to discuss the relative hue enjoyed by this person or that but it really leads no where.
The more interesting question is culture and assimilation.
For example, in Vancouver you have a large Chinese population, a large South Asian population and large numbers of Ismalis. Culturally, each group is very committed to assimilation. Which is not to say that there are no sections of Vancouver where Chinese or Punjabi are the dominant languages. Not at all; rather the traditional two and a half generations to full on flag waving, hockey cheering, Tim Hortons sipping Cannuckdom is pretty standard in those communities.
Where the issues arise is when minorities within minorities attempt – for religious, cultural or nationalist reasons – to isolate themselves from the general run of Canadian culture.
It may well be that some cultures are better at immigration and assimilation than others. Certainly the European experience with Muslim immigrants from poor and backward countries has not gone terribly well. But that has nothing to do with race as it is commonly understood.
Use this link to get your MP email address.
http://tinyurl.com/ydpjgxp
Just click on the MP’s name in the left column. That gets you their info page.
It is not race that is a problem but culture.
Culture, language, morals, ect. are passed down through generations. What do you do when there are no generations to pass things on to? We’ve thrust the bulk of everything- ranging from jobs we won’t take to taxes that fund social services- to immigrants. If you have a group which considers women to be sub-human, how do you counteract that?
When I worked as local archivist (best job I ever had), I could see from the records how a farming area turned from Anglo to South European in the space of two decades. It will turn again. Whatever mark left on a community could all but disappear if efforts aren’t made to preserve it. Numbers help do that.
Just my thoughts.
Yo Andrew, the problem I see with that is before you turn around there will be more filipinos in your town than you can shake a stick at and Bada-Bing Bada-Boom they run their own political candidate and then you are in the same boat as us Americans,,,, 😉
Take heart Friend of USA, we ain’t dead yet. Nor, will we go quietly in the nite.
When as predicted by Stats Canada, the Muslim population becomes 7% of Canada within twenty years, in reality that will be closer to 21% Toronto.
With block voting their political influence will be dominant. Sharia inspired policies will follow and the Jewish population will be hiding out in Moose Jaw.
Honour killings will rise to the U.K. estimated level and CSIS budget won’t be able or allowed to keep up to the geometric increase in workload.
I remember back when we were free, safe and self-confident in our identity and culture, something the 21st Century born Canadians will never know.
Our federal government won’t even defend free speech against the Sect. 13 “Human Rights” Commission Jihadis.
The only thing Andrew has to worry about with the influx of Philippinos is the decline of the canine population and the strange odours emanating from their BBQ’s.
Seriously, there’s two types of immigrants. Those that want to adapt to western values and those who want to retain their archaic ways.
For one who has worked in the Centre of the Universe and has lived close by, I have witnessed the fact that most of the children of immigrants
choose to become part of the mainstream and usually reject their parents’ prejudices and
customs.
Although I don’t like to see our culture subsumed by foreign influences, I still retain hope that the next generations of them will redeem them.
My son-in-law is of Asian descent. He will not tolerate anything that would interfere with his children being fully accepted in traditional Canadian society. I ferventy hope that he is in the majority.
For what it’s worth.
Funny how in 2000 the media were reporting that the pop of the GTA had already reached a 50% + point of immigrant to natural Canadian citizins……
The MSM are idiots… categorically.
citizins = citizens … type too fast………..
The importation of third world countries will continue because it is politically expediant and correct. That is not all so bad as many of them are very productive and want to be ‘of us’ to some extent. The real problem is islam; gradualist, creeping islamization. A look around the world since the 60s indicates the threat is so very real. Islam is the enemy of civilization.
JEWS. I am a Euro-Christian. The Jews are the single most impressive and admirable group of people in the world. They are well educated, hard working, productive, inventive and innovative, law abiding, charitable, tenacious, great warriors, and non-intrusive. They are a benefit to wherever they live. As an aside, I support Isreal fully and unequivocally, whatever they may do. The only comment I have to make about the Jews, cf Christians, is that the Jews, while generally social liberals (although they have been abandoned by liberals in recent times), are largely functionally and inherently conservative, as are most Christians. The Jews and conservative Christians ought well to unite in common cause because of their great commonality as well as both being either phisical or spiritual descendants of Abraham.
A little focus, Augustine. Please. (Islam, by the way, is amongst those Abrahamic traditions.)
Perhaps if we revisited Jay Currie’s comment above and continued in that vein.
And most important about this story?
You’ll be sorry.
Well IMHO i think there is alot of factors to this issue ….one being that if you look all around the western world we have become fat dumb and happy …along with that complacent on many levels .
1. not having kids because it cut’s into our party time. we are so into our social lives that having kids and a family social life is just “not as cool”
2. being single and going slamming everysingle woman you can until you rip the skin right off your ^$nis,as well swinging gangbangs and orgies is really the only way to prove you are a manly man or an open minded tolerant obediant woman
3. there is a world wide epidemic of white people who are embarrassed for being great and dominat like self loathing liberals and multi culti types.
4.The west is ushering out people form churches and good moral foundations just like the church and heading them over to the wonderful religion of athieism where there only purpose is to attack religion and christianity especially because it is soooooooooooo oppressive and intolorant..as well islam has welcomed those lost and abused christian souls with open arms i use the term arms in many way’s here.
5. The western family unit is being or in some cases had been sucessful debased from it’s christian hertiage look at russia stalin became the peoples god and for awhile he killed pastors christians so on and so forth ..along with that debasement there is a loss of integrity and the feeling that you belong to something bigger than yourself ie. large families and big groups of friends.
6. having large families is “discusting” acording to some of my former female freinds and i quote”i don’t want stretch marks and saggy breast’s that’s gross” that is from a 27 year old former friend of mine .
7. we have put more value on our quads ,fifth wheels, rrsp portfolio’s,cars,cabins,cloathes all of our material thing’s than inot our own friken families we would rather have 1 or 2 kids and own every toy known to man than to have four or six kids and maybe own only one or maybe 2 nice thing’s we are such a materialist and status driven people it is no wonder we (white people,and westerners) are dying at an alarming rate .
8.We in the west would rather give 5 billion to third world baby spitters than to our own people here in canada to have kids who will no doubt better serve our country and our world where does it say that we must give our wealth to other countries manditoraly ….why is it our fault if they are ass backwards and all messed up ? them oney we give goes right to the people we hope it doesn’t go to . Again this is my self loathing point reiterated.
And the list goes on islam has proven itsewlf to be fully incompatible with the western world but here we are celebrating this death cult like iti s something special to be proud of ….one day and i am afraid it may be sooner rather than later blood will be spilled the west has a history of it we get pushed to a point then we push right back past the start point way over and i fear for a total all out balls to the wall attack with in and outside our western countries . Again it is my opinion …also that 5 billion dollars to the third world thing is a fact that was our tax dollars sent to places that needed it more that our battered women and our abused children and our hurting soldiers .
Paul in calgary.
[Disclosure],
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Make a string of 6 MPs for your CC email.
One email from you talks to 6 or more, so if two or more discuss it, you win.
This comment is an email of mine, for instance… MPs will get my drift here.
Posted to right of center blogsite.. SmallDeadAnimals
Don’t be offended by the negative cliches re MPs. Pure theater,..tongue in cheek blog talk.
I am fully aware that your job is very demanding.
Constructive as ever , Tony G
Courtenay Comox Vancouver Island
TJ – I never said racism didn’t exist, and I never said it will ever cease to exist. So – you don’t need to tell me to open my eyes. I know people will discriminate or even murder over race.
I said that I haven’t encountered many incidents of racism personally. I found your anecdotal examples laughable: you are so scared. But your fears are unfounded. You should stop comparing immigration to Canada to life in Zimbabwe. It’s not the same thing. We don’t let just anyone into this country: Western culture is not under attack. You are not under attack. This country needs young working professionals to thrive. I welcome them.
Friend of USA – how can a race go extinct? Are you referring to Maya and Inca culture? Yes, the Virgin Soil Epidemics wiped out up to 90% of the aboriginals living in South America, but descendants of the survivors live on. Yes, some of them now have Spanish ancestry. I don’t understand your concept of race or why you care about it so much – if somehow all people with white skin disappeared… who cares as long as humans still existed? People are people. Or do you believe there are significant genetic differences between the races? If that’s the case, then yeah, your thinking is a bit outdated and some people might mistakenly think you’re being hateful instead of just ignorant. I might be the ignorant one, though, since I’m not entirely understanding your perspective. I see no crisis in the % of whites decreasing. I have no affinity with “my” race. But that’s just me. Thanks for your thoughts.
Andrew:
People from the Philippines generally speak English – a funny kind of English, to be sure, but English nonetheless. Having married a Chinese woman from the PI, and having a Filipina nanny for the last 16 years does give me some insight here. Our nanny, when she was first here, used to travel to the Eaton Centre every weekend, so she could meet with other Filipinos. It wasn’t that she didn’t like us; she just wanted to be with some other people from “back home” for a while. After a few years, her trips became less frequent, and now are non-existent, because she has been accepted by our friends and relatives into the extended family, and she’s happy with that.
TJ:
I’m guessing your parents are white. I’ve met a number of South Africans over the years, and outside of the cold and the lack of servants, they have never said a word about it being hard to integrate, or feeling different. Everyone probably figures they’re Australian or Kiwis.
Phantom:
Get serious. Canadians and Americans are more alike than any two peoples on Earth. What’s different among actual citizens? We watch more hockey, they watch more football. What a huge cultural difference to deal with. It’s certainly on a par with moving to a country where most people are a different colour, speak a different language, have different cultural mores, and you stick out like a sore thumb. Yep, those cases are exactly the same.
atric:
What an ignorant comment. Filipinos don’t eat dog. However, they do make excellent suckling pig, adobo, and noodles, among other things. I put on 50 lbs in the first ten years our nanny was cooking for us. You should be so lucky as to have dinner at our house.
tindall your crazy man !!! you don’t think that the 18 muslims that were arrested for tring to kill the prime minister is an attack on canada or on western values ?
And your right canada is not like zimbabwe …..YET ….did you know that immigration canada want’s to bring in about 400k to about 500k of thrid world immigrant a year well they are doing it right now anyway and that is on top of the refugee status claimers …how can you say that we are not under attack here in canada …did youk now that sharia law almost passed in ontario? when in the history of canada has honor killings ever occoured ?
And why are you so intune with other people comming here why not develop our people within this country ? what is wrong with that and why are you so gung hoe about immigrating people here rather than employing our own people here and trainign our own people here ? Are you ignorant ?
And about your comment to friend of the u.s.a. how can you deny the intelect of say romans to the african tribes ? that is not a blanket statement so please spare me ..i am saying that there are geniouses from every culture …..the asians are very good with technology some are smarter and better than others through out this world are going to tell me that we are all equal ? maybe on a human right’s scale yes we are but out side of that no we are not equal…would you like me to list off about a thousand thing’s that were invented by WHITE people from around the world ..why is that ? could you for one second give yourself some credit and sya that white people are extremely intellegent and have advanced civil societies to what they are today by being smart enough to take the knowledge of others and themselves and creating what we have here today it was white people who invented everything from rubber, to,toilet paper ,from the mass production lines of manufacturing to scales , from microwaves to snow machines. And yet you seem to think that if white people die off the world will be a utopian dream …what is wrong with saying that I AM WHITE AND I AM PROUD ? what tell me ….i know right away like every other loser out there you will assume that my pointy whiteh at is in the truck of my car and i am on my way to a clan meeting typical ….we in the west are dying and yes alot of others who are comming here have adopted and adapted 100% asimilation great ..i know filipinos who are more right wing than me that my friend is a good thing ..the problem is ,is that for some wierd reason he in the back of his head knows ….the foundation to any great society is family , children a solid foundation is key to haveing a civil and peacful society ..and yet we have people comming here from the sudan who cut there daughters head off for not whereing a head scarf to school and you support that kind of immigration ..i am o.k. with immigration on a very small scale we owe our country and our freedom to have larger families to put more emphasis on family values and christian nieghbourly values to all IN our country but those who come here to change the country are simply not welcome and there is nothing wrong with me saying that ..we do soooo much good around the world that we have every right to protect and take care of our own once in awhile dude and just becasue you never came across it doesn’t mean that there is not racism out there towards white people there is and there is alot of it ….so yes you do need to open your eye’s read america alone ,read micheal savage the enemey within …read bridgette gabriel becasue they hate …again immigration in modesty is a good thing but in small amount’s and we must be care full from witch countries we immigrate from those that call for our destruction should be striken from the list with out repeal ..period !!!
Paul in calgary.
All those accomplishments, yet spelling and punctuation and syntax still elude us.
I am very pleased that the majority of posters on this thread are awake and alert to the issue.
I am beginning to understand why empires fall. It is not so much that people have their heads in the sand, although there is a bit of that too. But when societal change happens relatively slowly, some people simply cannot see it occurring, despite all the evidence in front of their noses.
This is the same reason why large companies sometimes fail, leaving management bewildered. (There are excellent books on this subject such as the Innovator’s Dilemma by Professor Clayton Christensen.)
So in the end we should all be grateful for people like Kate, Steyn, Levant, Shaidle, and many others, who don’t hesitate to try and open the eyes and minds of those who live in ignorant bliss.
And of course a special thanks to EMG for his post that got this discussion going in the first place.
Sorry, cannot resist, from Michelle Milken’s blog, this quote from Roosevelt which applies to this discussion:
“There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all… The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic… There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.”
Excellent, this is great news. These newcomers are often more entrepreneurial and hardworking than the natives are. I’ll take an immigrant any day. They will help pay down the national debt and can be recruited to change our political culture for the better-if we can throw the xenophobic types in the cellar and shut them up.
Cytotoxic, beware of tax serfs. There are lots of good reasons to encourage immigration to Canada. And there are lots of immigrants from cultures which fit well with the broad thrust of Canadian values; but we need to treat our immigrants as ends in themselves rather than as means to solve the various debt, tax and demographic issues we have created for ourselves.
tindall
We have to compare immigration to Canada to life in Zimbabwe.
If Canada is accepting immigrants from African country Canadian government and Canadian people have to
a/be prepared that immigrants’ work-ethics would be different from work-ethics in Canada,
b/ have to accept that immigrants University education may be worth much less than education in Canada
c/ have to know that immigrants who have education will expect to get the job in their area of study
d/ and if they acquire job in their area of study they will also expect that their employer will take into consideration the years of work in their study area in their country
If you do not give them that they usually will be resentful, because you (the government of Canada) did not meet their expectation. They will not readily accept the explanation that the government has not much to do with their unemployment (say, after 1 year). As a result some of these immigrants will be unemployed or underemployed and you are getting a resentful immigrant population.
If they get a job, some may:
.a/ use bribes – giving someone a bribe(gifts) is usual thing for many in Africa and in the ME, they have to do it over there to get things moving, some (or even majority of)immigrants will try to behave similarly here because they do not see anything wrong in such behavior.
b/ Many of them are accustomed to using their family connections in getting job, in doing business. All Canadians do that to same extend but for some immigrants giving places to family members, even cheating to do that, is normal because “family is the above everything and everybody”. In Africa and ME that kind of behavior is normal. Some immigrants will try to do the same in Canada and they will not see anything wrong in that.
Because, you see, many have different attitudes to “things”, different background, different expectation and different life-experience.
I am not even mentioning that with instant connection to original country all grudge against their neighbors, or neighboring countries will come to Canada. Already came, in fact.
Now, I did not mention immigrants from Asia, did I? Now they have different work ethics so they will work even harder than Canadians. That’s why there are so many immigrants from China in Canadian Universities. They study very hard, Canadians were not taught to do that. Also, there is less competition at Canadian universities here than back in China, because of lower population density. And they, like other immigrants from Asia (far-east) do not have this “Canada-owe-me” attitude. .
And I did not mention immigrants from other countries in the ME or Africa or Europe. All have different customs, different work ethics, different worries about their own countries and should be treated differently because there is higher possibility that immigrants from some countries will better integrate than immigrants from others. And the measure of how useful for Canada will be that of other immigrant often do not correlate with educations, although…. sometimes it does. . .
So you see Tindall in accepting immigration from different countries you have to take everything into consideration. Even the possibility that we may became like Zimbabwe or Saudi Arabia.
Ohh yeah just so you all know …there was a study done a few years ago and it found that it cost’s the country about two and a half times to “naturalize” immigrant’s to this country than it does to have children here and raise them here so for every immigrant being brought in there are one and a half less chances our children will have any opporunity here in canada becasue we are natural canadians and as the human rights commision would have it they would rather force you to hire a completley incompetant somali refugee than to hire a qualified hard working white canadian citizen….nice that is diversity and multiculturalism for you . And you wonder why buisnesses fail it is becasue they are not allowed to discriminate between who is best qualified and how many blacks they have on staff.
Paul in calgary.
Tindall said,
»…if somehow all people with white skin disappeared… who cares as long as humans still existed?…»
Do you realize that saying you do not care if all white people die is pure racism?
You don’t agree?
ok now change the word white for black…
Can you imagine if someone said that about black people?
Would you say that about black people in front of a crowd of black people, or on TV?
Or if you had a chance to meet Obama personally would you say to his face you don’t care if all black skinned people died?
The fact that some people do not care if all white people die is PURE RACISM.
Thanks for helping me make my point;
The white race – which is a shrinking visible minority on this planet – is victim of racism more and more everyday.