66 Replies to “So You Think You Know Universal Health Care”
we should be very concerned about medical care. we have far to many people involved in health care and they don’t do a real good job. if 50% of the paperpushers were removed and 50% of the so called managers removed and those who actually deliver medical care were increased we would see wait times and diagnosis improved. oh, and fewer government morons involved in the process. we have to pay no matter which vehicle you use to move the cash.
Who cares if you have to wait in the emergency ward for 36 hours and even possibly die without anyone noticing.
Who cares if you have to wait 3 years for a new hip or cancer surgery.
Who cares that VIP’s like athletes and politicians get bumped to the front of the line for instant care.
Just make sure I don’t have to pay anything when i go to the doctore ok, eh?
Oh, and make sure no one can buy their way ahead of me in the line, cause that is just unfair, very uncanadian eh. I’m ok with the hockey players getting fast care, and of course we need our Liberal overlords healed fast because i am too stupid to think for myself and need them to tell me what to do.
Post by: old white guy at July 26, 2009 8:56 AM
Complete agreement with above post. When has anybody heard of a cut-back in the bureaucracy. They will cut back from building maintenance, cleaning staff, nurses, operating rooms, operating support staff, RNs before they touch the money handlers.
Here is what I don’t get. My husband has had 2 MRIs, a few months apart, no waiting (called on Monday, was booked for Friday). He went on Friday nights around 10PM, and both times the technicians mentioned they would maybe see 2 patients until morning even though they run 24/7. I guess no one wants to get up in the middle of the night for possibly life saving diagnostics??? They would rather wait 6 months to go on a Monday afternoon????
Live in Ottawa, MRI’s at the old Riverside Hospital (not sure what it’s called now).
So what is going on?
If you dare, do a google search for
“Canadian health care opinion poll”
Read some of the poll numbers.
It will surprise you
Great point.
If our inbred little socialist backwater had the magic bullet for health care you’d think the developed world would be knocking down our doors to get some. But they aren’t.
Maybe the whole buzz about Canada’s superior public health system is just pure political fabrication. Think that’s possible?
“I’m ok with the hockey players getting fast care”
That’s a red herring. In toronto, pro sports players paid cash for MRI diagnostics that had to be done after hours, as the Ministry didn’t have the funds to staff them beyond 1 shift a day. So Mrs. McGillicuddy with her bumb hip wasn’t pushed out of line, the healthcare system got a cash infusion, the technician got paid overtime, and the athlete didn’t have to go to the US for the same service.
But that was a talking point in liar mcguinty’s platform, to make sure “high-paid athletes don’t go to the head of the line for healthcare treatment”.
What a complete and utter load of BS, and shame on the ignorant ontario sheeple for swallowing it, like the rest of his lies.
mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm
Next you should ask how many Canadians know doctors who have moved to the US to work in the American system. I can personally think of 2.
Iggy . What about Iggy.
a pseudo American who must have dropped in on a health clinic for at least a via gra pill.
The truth, of course, is that visiting the emergency room in a medical crisis is no substitute for regular care. Furthermore, while a hospital will treat you whether or not you can pay, it will also bill you — and the bill won’t be waived unless you’re destitute. As a result, uninsured working Americans avoid visiting emergency rooms if at all possible, because they’re terrified by the potential cost: medical expenses are one of the prime causes of personal bankruptcy.
Tim in Vermont:
Insulin?
Average Canadian: Who cares if you have to wait 3 years for a new hip or cancer surgery.
In what alternate universe? Cardiac surgery? Just over one month wait time in Ontario. Hip replacement? Less than six months. Cancer? Less than two months. But, please, don’t let a simple thing like facts get in the way of your polemic.
Kevin b:
that’s the Average wait time. In northern Ontario it’s well over a year. In sk it’s eigthteen months for a hip. And that is not longer because of the large number of purchased surgeryies in Calgary.
Currently there is a town in north central ab – population 25000 that has two gps. A third is coming next month and his client list is being pre assembled by drawing names from a drum.
Check into how long it takes to geta colonoscopy – ifyou have no symptoms itcan take over eighteen months. And PET scans are virtually non-existent in Canada. As someone who is familiar with it’s value were I or a loved one diagnosed with cancer I would not undergo treatment without getting those scans done as needed.
Mr. Shaw, too late! We’re being “wellness’d” to death in the U. S. already. My company jumped on the bandwagon several years ago and spends hundreds of thousands annually to stage “wellness fairs” and other stuff. They try every bribe they can think of for folks to enter smoking cessation programs; attend rotating Weight Watcher classes; fund a massive and free gym downstairs with a multitude of associated exercise classes.
After teleprompter jesus was elected and my worst fears began to see the light of day, I bought a dog and now walk 2 – 3 miles every afternoon and up to 6 on the weekends. I also bought a bunch of guns and ammo.
Although the poll’s point is well taken, it’s still a stupid poll. Take out “politicians” and you’ll get rather dramatically different results, I’ll wager.
Posted by: Darrell at>
“….it’s still a stupid poll. Take out “politicians” and you’ll get rather dramatically different results……”
Ha ha ha………unbelievable!
So basically you guys can look at the US, see that 40+ million Americans are without health insurance, and that those who do have it still end up getting raked over the coals, and that stats show that Americans are generally more unhealthy, and live shorter lives, and yet SOMEHOW you still think they’re better off. Solely because private care is consistent with your ideology.
Man. That’s pretty effen stupid. Lucky for you most Canadians are too smart to fall for the propaganda being churned out by the American “healthcare” industry.
we should be very concerned about medical care. we have far to many people involved in health care and they don’t do a real good job. if 50% of the paperpushers were removed and 50% of the so called managers removed and those who actually deliver medical care were increased we would see wait times and diagnosis improved. oh, and fewer government morons involved in the process. we have to pay no matter which vehicle you use to move the cash.
Who cares if you have to wait in the emergency ward for 36 hours and even possibly die without anyone noticing.
Who cares if you have to wait 3 years for a new hip or cancer surgery.
Who cares that VIP’s like athletes and politicians get bumped to the front of the line for instant care.
Just make sure I don’t have to pay anything when i go to the doctore ok, eh?
Oh, and make sure no one can buy their way ahead of me in the line, cause that is just unfair, very uncanadian eh. I’m ok with the hockey players getting fast care, and of course we need our Liberal overlords healed fast because i am too stupid to think for myself and need them to tell me what to do.
Post by: old white guy at July 26, 2009 8:56 AM
Complete agreement with above post. When has anybody heard of a cut-back in the bureaucracy. They will cut back from building maintenance, cleaning staff, nurses, operating rooms, operating support staff, RNs before they touch the money handlers.
Here is what I don’t get. My husband has had 2 MRIs, a few months apart, no waiting (called on Monday, was booked for Friday). He went on Friday nights around 10PM, and both times the technicians mentioned they would maybe see 2 patients until morning even though they run 24/7. I guess no one wants to get up in the middle of the night for possibly life saving diagnostics??? They would rather wait 6 months to go on a Monday afternoon????
Live in Ottawa, MRI’s at the old Riverside Hospital (not sure what it’s called now).
So what is going on?
If you dare, do a google search for
“Canadian health care opinion poll”
Read some of the poll numbers.
It will surprise you
Great point.
If our inbred little socialist backwater had the magic bullet for health care you’d think the developed world would be knocking down our doors to get some. But they aren’t.
Maybe the whole buzz about Canada’s superior public health system is just pure political fabrication. Think that’s possible?
“I’m ok with the hockey players getting fast care”
That’s a red herring. In toronto, pro sports players paid cash for MRI diagnostics that had to be done after hours, as the Ministry didn’t have the funds to staff them beyond 1 shift a day. So Mrs. McGillicuddy with her bumb hip wasn’t pushed out of line, the healthcare system got a cash infusion, the technician got paid overtime, and the athlete didn’t have to go to the US for the same service.
But that was a talking point in liar mcguinty’s platform, to make sure “high-paid athletes don’t go to the head of the line for healthcare treatment”.
What a complete and utter load of BS, and shame on the ignorant ontario sheeple for swallowing it, like the rest of his lies.
mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm
Next you should ask how many Canadians know doctors who have moved to the US to work in the American system. I can personally think of 2.
Iggy . What about Iggy.
a pseudo American who must have dropped in on a health clinic for at least a via gra pill.
The truth, of course, is that visiting the emergency room in a medical crisis is no substitute for regular care. Furthermore, while a hospital will treat you whether or not you can pay, it will also bill you — and the bill won’t be waived unless you’re destitute. As a result, uninsured working Americans avoid visiting emergency rooms if at all possible, because they’re terrified by the potential cost: medical expenses are one of the prime causes of personal bankruptcy.
Tim in Vermont:
Insulin?
Average Canadian:
Who cares if you have to wait 3 years for a new hip or cancer surgery.
In what alternate universe? Cardiac surgery? Just over one month wait time in Ontario. Hip replacement? Less than six months. Cancer? Less than two months. But, please, don’t let a simple thing like facts get in the way of your polemic.
Kevin b:
that’s the Average wait time. In northern Ontario it’s well over a year. In sk it’s eigthteen months for a hip. And that is not longer because of the large number of purchased surgeryies in Calgary.
Currently there is a town in north central ab – population 25000 that has two gps. A third is coming next month and his client list is being pre assembled by drawing names from a drum.
Check into how long it takes to geta colonoscopy – ifyou have no symptoms itcan take over eighteen months. And PET scans are virtually non-existent in Canada. As someone who is familiar with it’s value were I or a loved one diagnosed with cancer I would not undergo treatment without getting those scans done as needed.
Mr. Shaw, too late! We’re being “wellness’d” to death in the U. S. already. My company jumped on the bandwagon several years ago and spends hundreds of thousands annually to stage “wellness fairs” and other stuff. They try every bribe they can think of for folks to enter smoking cessation programs; attend rotating Weight Watcher classes; fund a massive and free gym downstairs with a multitude of associated exercise classes.
After teleprompter jesus was elected and my worst fears began to see the light of day, I bought a dog and now walk 2 – 3 miles every afternoon and up to 6 on the weekends. I also bought a bunch of guns and ammo.
Although the poll’s point is well taken, it’s still a stupid poll. Take out “politicians” and you’ll get rather dramatically different results, I’ll wager.
Posted by: Darrell at>
“….it’s still a stupid poll. Take out “politicians” and you’ll get rather dramatically different results……”
Ha ha ha………unbelievable!
So basically you guys can look at the US, see that 40+ million Americans are without health insurance, and that those who do have it still end up getting raked over the coals, and that stats show that Americans are generally more unhealthy, and live shorter lives, and yet SOMEHOW you still think they’re better off. Solely because private care is consistent with your ideology.
Man. That’s pretty effen stupid. Lucky for you most Canadians are too smart to fall for the propaganda being churned out by the American “healthcare” industry.