So the CPC tabled Bill
C-61 for First Reading in Parliament. Boy, it sure looks
similar to Sam Bulte’s Bill from 2006.
I wrote to my MP, Carol Skelton
in January,
2007. She replied and forwarded my note to Bernier. I
never heard a word from that satyr. I doubt I’ll hear
from his replacement.
I use Linux. Due to the nature of Linux, licensing
the Content
Scrambling System to play DVD’s is a non-starter. In order
to enjoy my bought and paid for DVD’s on Linux I must use
the DeCSS
libraries. This Bill makes my fair use illegal. Once again,
a gov’t is creating criminals.
I will be breaking this proposed law every time I play a DVD
because, my application uses an un-licenced, independent
library to unscramble the CSS used to encrypt the DVD.
I have no problem punishing thieves who distribute music in
contravention of fair use. I vociferously deny that I am a
criminal for playing a DVD on my free operating system.
I don’t have any fear of not being able to watch my DVD’s,
HD’s or Blue-Ray discs. The latter two have already
been cracked
and it won’t be long before someone releases it into the
wild.
What I do want to know though, is why are the “liberty
loving” CPC emulating the “Gun Law” and making us regular
Joe’s criminals? From this end, it looks like it is because they
were wined and dined by the Motion Picture Association,
Recording Industry Association and their Canadian cohorts.
Go read Micheal
Geist and see just what this Canadian DMCA makes illegal.
Soon after he arrives into the office on Monday morning, he
is contacted by a researcher located in the field who asks
him to track down an article and to email an electronic copy
as soon as possible. Jim finds the article, scans and sends
it via email. After work, he drops into the local HMV and
purchases a DVD copy of the movie Juno. At home, he
transfers a copy of the movie to his video iPod for viewing
on an upcoming business trip.If the Canadian DMCA becomes law, all of Jim’s copying
activities arguably violate the law.
Jim’s in for a bad life if Microsoft or Disney decide to get
nasty.
Given the lack of any concrete action regarding Section 13,
given C-61’s draconian anti-liberty statutes I will most likely be
withholding, declining, or voiding my vote come the election. I’m
really not interested in the CPC anymore. They have proven
themselves to be nothing but the same as those they replaced.
In fact, I’d rather pay a carbon tax than abdicate any more of
the liberties that I currently have.
Cheers,
lance
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I hear you lance…but the idea of Libs being in ‘power’ again to present the carbon tax sickens me, knowing that it won’t only be carbon tax…it will be all the other mamby-pamby, airy-fairy silly Liberal amoral,socialistic, power tripping garbage.
Please let’s do what we can NOW to get the attention of the CPC.I am replying to their request for funding with specifics about why I am not sending $$$ right now.
There is a certain group that will be effected by this. Majority of Canadians won’t have a clue, therefore it could slipped by the radar. That in itself is evidence that supports your point. They are pandering to some small groups.
Well said lance – the Cons are proving out to be greasy politicians pandering to lobbyists – instead of a conservative party with the interests of Canadians first and foremost.
Withhold your donations, write your MP, and call the Cons out on proposing Bill C-61. Prentice is a lightweight – a low grade bureaucrat from the Indian Industry. What a shame that after having a year to get this out, he takes so little input from Canadians, and treats facts so lightly.
It doesn’t matter who is cutting down your freedom – whether Librano or Con – your freedom is being eroded to secure a revenue stream for Big Business & their lobbyists.
Call Prentice on that.
I agree with bluetech. Since the CP’s have got into power they have turned into to the Liberals. Liberals rarely returned email or letters now,good luck getting any response from any CPC MP’s. They get told here every time they call looking for funding why I will not be renewing my membership. Sadly, the list of reasons is growing……
The Tories are most definitely on the wrong side of this issue. I have similarly questioned my loyalty to the party as a result of this bill.
It is lunacy to turn people into criminals for using products they have legimately bought. The technological provisions of this bill have to be amended to allow fair use.
“Given the lack of any concrete action regarding Section 13, given C-61’s draconian anti-liberty statutes I will most likely be withholding, declining, or voiding my vote come the election.”
Aww, cmon lance, use it to support your riding’s Libertarian candidate. (That would be me…) With enough support we’ll at least send a strong message to the current mainstream parties that Canadians will not continue to tolerate having their liberties squashed.
KS, email me, lance at catprint dot ca.
I have to agree the Conservatives are taking actions that I find troubling. So much so that I have now decided to just abstain from the next Federal election. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it’s probably a duck no matter the name on the lable.
When the media plays through to the stereo amp system here, it can be recorded.
The computer line feeds through the amp system to hi-fi speakers.
Locks only prevent recording to CD on the computer. Correct? Once music reaches the Amp it can be recorded to tape and CD, if not directly to CD.
As long as there are music sources on the web, and there are millions, there is no way to put the genie back in the bottle.
Don*t download music, just play it when in the mood and record your favourites.
In any case, I bought some CD and LP collections and have a lot of excellent music. Seldom have any urge to record much.
Vinyl is great BTW, you can lift the tone arm and easily replay a riff you want to get on the guitar. = TG
TG, the fact that you can play or record it isn’t the point.
Anyone with an extended knowledge of computer programming can intercept data on it’s way to the sound or video devices. Circumventing the digital “locks” while non-trivial is eminently doable.
The point is that this bill makes that action illegal. In fact, the above example is explicitly allowed but only if the researcher receives permission from content providers before doing the research. The bill makes it illegal to learn unless Disney gives you permission.
Ludicrous.
Cheers,
lance
“I will most likely be withholding, declining, or voiding my vote come the election. ”
Big surprise there.
Are there any actual Conservatives in Canada?
Or just REALLY DRAMATIC secretly left wing people, who claim to be Conservative supporters but, in search of the perfect “burn”, pick the most preposterously obscure of legislation upon which to claim, super uncredibly, that they simply cannot bring themselves to vote Conservative this time, as if their penchant for drama and inability to reason doesn’t tip them off as Liberals to begin with?
The federal government of Canada is big. You have no idea how big. It spend two hundred and twenty five billion dollars a year, and enforces a really huge legal code and regulatory framework.
To pick one obscure piece of legislation and claim you are witholding your vote on that basis IS THE STUPIDEST GODDAMN THING I HAVE EVER $@%@$$#@ SEEN IN MY %$%$@#%$ LIFE PLEASE STOP DOING IT YOU ARE HARMING CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Logical Person: I am Conservative, will never vote liberal. BUT you must stand by your principals and the money pot is the only way to get their attention. The CP’s seem to have a deaf ear lately, that’s not good for Canada either.
“Given the lack of any concrete action regarding Section 13, given C-61’s draconian anti-liberty statutes”
It isn’t one obscure piece of legislation, it’s everything else too. Look at bill C-51. Do you see any Canadians demanding herbal remedies be regulated? No. Do CPC cabinet ministers laugh at the idea it shouldn’t be regulated despite the fact it hasn’t been to this point and that hasn’t really caused any major problems? Yes.
Give Me A Break.
I posted this 15 minites ago & the connection was lost. I appologize if I get a double posting.
For the last few months after watching the CPC I have come to the conclusion that I was a naive idiot to have thought they where different. I actually feel like a mark, with a lot of shame.
Its bills like this that they inch by inch kill our liberties for NGO’s or lobby groups. Canada is just a laboratory attached to a bank called Canadians that they fund there insane scams with the populaces taxes, while they live outside the nut house there creating paying no tax.
Voting for the Liberals will hasten the fall of this Country. Its a good reason. Under the CPC where dying the death of a thousand cuts. This from a guy who was there when The Reform party was created. One of the most exciting nights of my life. Who knew the progeny of this movement would all be Ottawashed in 3 /12 years of political power. I have supported them all my life, hoping for real conversion of this Nation into a real democracy. More the fool me.
Instead we get the same fascist policies of the Crietian or Martin government. The populace is bad, criminals or adolescents according to the liberals Marxist or “SOFT fascism is the way. The conservative it seems have adopted this paradigm. For the moonbeams reading this , we do unlike you, get disgusted with liars , cheats & anti-democratic pandering fools. Which the Progressive CPC ids evolving into. They too think where all just children with the portion of our checks called “Lost revenue opportunities” they can’t tax yet, by these looters. Politician in this Nation have nothing but contempt of those they govern. Time for a New Canada with its freedoms back. With the courts & other parties in collusion over this bill or the HRC’s except for a dark comedy of a show they put on of lovers of freedom, while devouring its spirit. I think its time we replaced them all, or Alberta to leave for good as a Republic with our old bill of rights which of course was based on the American one.
We now see the majority we hoped for in the CPC will do nothing but consolidate yet another Party trying to bury us under the jackboot with a human face. Thank you MSM for allowing this mindset to flourish for 4o years. Now your losing freedom. No Senate seat will help you in the end. Your profession will be gutted. Who needs a free press or opinion in a Banana republic?
Lance, I must agree with you. If this was a one-off that would be one thing. But I don’t really know where the conservatives are at these days. They have missed a lot of good opportunities to distinguish themselves from the Liberals.
– income splitting -> they have ignored the issue altogether
– seal hunt -> they let Loyola Hearn beat his chest about how wonderful the seal hunt is. The consequence: alienation of women voters en masse.
– animal cruelty -> Canada’s laws are way out of date. Again, the consequence is alienation of women voters.
– Bill C-61 -> you nailed it on the head
– Bill C-51 -> why did they bother to stir that hornets nest?
And so on…
I still think Harper is one of the better Prime Minsters we’ve had in a long while, but as a party they are not executing well. And that’s disappointing because the last thing on earth we need is another Liberal running the country.
Here is a write-up in the NP about C-61:
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=590280
Revenant Dream …I was there too. Do you recall Harper stating in his Vancouver speech that the west could not hold the “balance of power” in a divided parliament (this is what Preston was advocating)because the Liberals, NDP and the PC’s were the “three heads of the same monster”!
Harper is now one of the heads and he was just liberal enough to get a minority. To win a majority he and his cabinet will become more liberal.
I have suggested before, send them $1000.00 cheques and then stop your cheques!
That will get you a phone call.
I am an original Reformer in Ontario.
We morphed to Canadian Alliance and then to the current Conservative party.
All well and good, so far.
I am truly uneasy about the HRC situation and now the copying issue pops up.
I have indicated to a CPC fund raiser from Ottawa (Sunday no less) that I am withholding my financial support until I see some solid action on the HRC debacle.
Artists are entitled to be compensated for their work, however once I have paid for their work, I should be entitled to reproduce it for my own use in any way I damned well choose, for free, LEGALLY!!
The copyright issue is far from law yet, therefore pressure can be brought to our conservative MP’s in my view.
The Red Tory faction may be holding sway over Harper, so direct hard copy ‘postage free’ snail mail may be the best procedure, marked as “Pesronal and Private” to Stephen Harper to get his attention on these two issues.
It’s time to crap or get off the pot as far as conservatism and less government is concerned.
On a slightly off topic issue, Harper should start getting his conservative message out( if he has any left) directly to Canadians by-passing the corrupt MSM entirely.
Because the native Reformers are getting restless.
I agree with some posters regarding the behavior of the government I voted for. However, I realize that no one, not even the PM, will be happy with everything done by the government. Politics is not clean and honorable. Idealism doesn’t survive long when you must compromise in order to govern. For those who will vote for the Liberals over this issue (Abdication is a vote for “OTHER” likely Liberal as they are the only other party which stands a chance), don’t be silly. A carbon tax is what you need. After all, wouldn’t it be better to pay extra for everything than to break a law that is un-enforceable anyway?
Have any of you guys considered that this legislation will make it illegal to tune your car’s engine?
Modern cars have encrypted code in their engine control computers. Its easy to crack, and there are lots and lots of after-market scanners/tuners out there to do exactly that. But, and this is where life starts to get interesting, you have to defeat the lame-o encryption if you want to change the values for your spark curve, spark advance, transmission shift points, fuel injection tables, knock sensor, blah blah blah.
Basically you either break the law, or you can’t strap a supercharger on your engine. Or install water injection, or put on new exhaust headers and cylinder heads for some more horsepower, or upgrade your cam, or back off the ignition because its knocking, OR ANY DAMN THING AT ALL.
It ain’t just about backing up you copy of Spiderman 3.
Then there’s the whole “Who owns this machine?” question. If its mine, I can take it apart, hack the electronics, decode the software, copy the software, chop it, drop it, channel it, change it beyond all recognition and pretty much do anything I want. Because its MINE.
If there’s some blanket legislation criminalizing me if I meddle with the innards of my DVD player, car, IPod or whatever, is it mine anymore? Or am I renting/leasing it? Did I buy the thing itself, or did I buy a limited-use license?
Do I want to be buying a limited use license on a car? How about a camera? Boat? DVD player? Computer?
Can I sell it again?
Now, having said all that, I think Lance is taking the Lazy Man’s Way. The CPC did a bad thing, they suck, I’m not voting CPC anymore, whine moan mope woe is me.
You do not abandon your party when they do something stupid (and this is Big “S” Stupid). What you do is, you kick them in the balls until they fix it. You raise hell until the bone heads who made the decision are turfed out in disgrace and replaced with a guy who has a brain.
You insist on the ideology of Conservatism being applied. Smaller government, less regulations, lower taxes, get out of my face and out of my wallet. You find out who’s responsible for this lapse, and you CHUCK THEM OUT.
Lance’s way is for quitters. Its the reason the Liberals have run the show for 40 years my friends. Don’t quit. Go get your Louisville Slugger, polish it up and take it to your Conservative Party meetings. Use it widely and well.
Very well stated Lance, the CPC sadly has their head up their arse again.
Phantom, I’m just guessing but I would bet Lance would vote for the CPC if they got their act together. Let’s face it the alternatives really are awful.
What ticks me off however is that the Conservatives are missing even the easy opportunities. Why do we have to take time out of our busy schedules to hold their hands on easy opportunities?
Beating on your local MP may do some good, but it is the brains in the inner circle in the party that need to be replaced. And it’s for Harper to take that action. We can make noise until the cows come home but if Harper isn’t listening nothing will change.
Well said and good idea(s) KS.
“Liberty loving Conservatives? Not likely.”
That’s a new one, lance, where liberty means the unfettered right to someone else’s private property.
There must be something to that definition of liberty, ’cause a lot of lefties certainly evince an excited feeling that that’s exactly what liberty — “freedom!” — will mean, once they have their way.
C-61 addresses problems that have arisen directly from the technological abilities to reproduce and distribute copyrighted material. It had to come at some point. Thirty years ago, if someone wrote a university history text everyone poring over it had their hands on a copy of the book. Now, for everyone who’s got the book there might be forty people who have a copy of it on their hard drive after someone scanned it in and passed it around.
In the last few years it’s suddenly possible to amass a library of books and music that one never paid a penny for; how is that reasonable to the writers and artists? Forty years ago, if someone rigged up a printing press and banged out copies of a particular book, everyone would have understood that that was an infringement, yet now seemingly millions of people seem to think that by virtue of a newer, easier-to-use technology that makes it even easier to perform this action, that the fundamental nature of the infringement is somehow obviated. I mean, no one comes out and says that, because it’s an impossible case to defend, so the new argument, as far as I can tell, is “I’ve been doing X, and you have too, right? — yeah, right, I thought so — so how can X be in any way wrong?’
I saw a local Health Reporter on CTV bald-assed stating that under the Conservative’s new legislation on natural remedies, *vitamins* might be made illegal. What she was saying — broadcasting, spreading — was pure, absolute, pandering, lying crap, but there you go — it’s out there now. And I’m hearing a lot of the same insinuated misinformation about C-61. One commenter (not here) said that under the new legislation you could get arrested for recording a TV program, or for recording a CD on your computer for your own use, at which point other putative conservatives turned suddenly into hillbillies, acknowledging as gospel the specious hearsay they’d been hearing, perhaps so they’d look like they were up to speed on this “fascist”, police-state legislation.
Just purely ridiculous. The sky is not falling; it’s exactly where it was two weeks ago. The things that people typically do, like recording something they wish to view later, is not illegal at all unless the source is illegal, as in, you’ve stolen your neighbour’s cable signal or bought the material from a bootlegger, which are illegal anyway.
Thank God for EBD.
One voice of sanity in this hysterical thread.
EBD, I explicitly stated that thieves should be punished. This goes so far beyond that it isn’t even funny.
You’re incorrect regarding the amendment not expanding illegalities. Section 41 explicitly states that circumventing _any_ “technological means” is going to be illegal. See Phantom’s comment on unintended consequences.
Which means for you to read the following ROT13 is illegal because “I expressly deny EBD the rights to this paragraph.”
V rkcerffyl qral ROQ gur evtugf gb guvf cnentencu.
Cheers,
lance
Even if you buy a CD and play it in a Mac (rather than a Windows based PC) you could be breaking this law because all anti-priacy software on CDs is designed to work on Windows not a Mac …
With Harpers NCC background and clear thinking, and talking, back in 87 at the birth of “Reform” we should not have to persuade him of the correctness and traditional observable truths, directing conservative thought and the positive outcomes they achieve.
I thought he was a believer, a statesman, but he is proving to be a politician…having surrounded himself with Mulroney insiders and red Tory hacks.
If he truly believed in the “conservative/ libertarian” view of the world he would not find it necessary to please and pander to the left while ignoring the concerns of western duck hunters etc. Telling us to be patient…shucks…we brought him to the dance!!
Sorry “logical person” but you are not logical… this is not a hockey game, where we support “our team” no matter how dirty they play. This is far more serious than that, it’s about liberty. If there were less people with your attitude out here then perhaps we would get phone calls not asking for financial support, but rather to ask us what they can do for us today to decrease the influence of government…or what they can do to make us freer!! Or how they can get out of our way!
So far all I have received is the former…they need the cash to buy more support in the “Golden Triangle”!
When and if they get it…guess who will set the agenda?
“The things that people typically do, like recording something they wish to view later, is not illegal at all unless the source is illegal, as in, you’ve stolen your neighbour’s cable signal or bought the material from a bootlegger, which are illegal anyway.”
Unless, of course, you’re recording digital content, and the broadcaster doesn’t wish for you to view it later. (See: broadcast flag)
More to the point, the government is admitting that this is the case in plain English:
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/site/crp-prda.nsf/en/rp01161e.html
“Limitations [on private copying]:. . .You could not circumvent or hack a technological measure (digital lock) to make the copy.”
Thanks for the reasonable comments EBD: “Just purely ridiculous. The sky is not falling; it’s exactly where it was two weeks ago. ”
My EDA is holding it’s AGM next month as well as a Delegation selection meeting. I think I will attend an speak to the people who can do something about it. The Administration arm of the CPC is not firmly joined at the hip to the Political arm. There is a disconnect there. The CPC will be a dead party before the news gets passed on. If you feel strongly about this go personally to your EDA office and talk to the staff there or your MP.
When you have a service complaint at McDonald’s do you complain to the floor sweeper or the restaurant manager?
Luckily the Conservatives don’t need you.
They have an easy majority.
All of the media really likes them.
The country has a history of Conservative govts.
The Senate is a chamber of sober second thought.
The courts are very Conservative oriented.
Canadians are well informed and politically savvy.
The school system oozes Conservativeness from start to finish.
Conservatives are well known for cohesiveness and team play.
Nice guys finish first in politics.
The Conservative Party has a long history of singing from the same songbook.
Stephen Harper never said he would have to govern just like the Liberal Party.
Stephen Harper never said change would be slow and incremental.
There is never “the rest of the story”.
Are you people NEW?
Lance’s way is for quitters. Its the reason the Liberals have run the show for 40 years my friends. Don’t quit. Go get your Louisville Slugger, polish it up and take it to your Conservative Party meetings. Use it widely and well.Posted by: The Phantom at June 17, 2008 2:28 PM
Nonsense Phantom. Total bull. A conservative party, and conservative government introduces ideologically coherent legislation.
This ain’t a one-off. The Reds have eaten the party, its’ all over.
The disappointment I felt when Harper appointed an un-elected Conservative Party bagman to the Senate and Cabinet – said it all.
I had hoped for change, for positive improvements, and for leadership.
We got a pamphlet, selective tax breaks, the largest increase in federal spending in the history of the nation, and ongoing operational issues like the unjust treatment of Caledonians by their government, of Kate & Shaidle by the HRC’s. The Cons are in charge, and have proven to be of no significant difference than the Libranos.
Reform II is coming. Bet on it. And if it takes another decade in the wilderness for the Cons to get it, so be it. It is better to live the ideology one believes in, than to live a lie.
Are you people NEW? Posted by: summom bonum at June 17, 2008 3:44 PM
Who was driving the turnip truck you just fell off of?
Libranos can form a big tent because they lack morals, ideological guidance, and will broker ethnic votes with tax dollars shamelessly.
When the Cons start diverging from their base ideology, they ARE the Libranos. That’s the point.
This is incredibly odd. On his blog Michael Geist wrote that
“Bill C-61 explicitly prohibits recording internet-only broadcasts (Section 29.23 (3)).”
But C-61 says exactly the opposite. 29.23 (1) spells out restrictions and conditions for recording a broadcast, then 29.23 (3) says that subsection (1) does not apply to Internet broadcasts.
Maybe I need my eyes checked, or I’m not parsing something correctly, but it seems to me that Geist is saying something that is flat-out false.
So, hardboiled, when the Conservatives move to protect private property, that means “the reds have eaten the party”?
Aren’t the “reds” the ones opposed to private property?
If the Liberals get back in power and finish the job they started with PET, we can thank putative conservatives who’ll gladly — noisily, while standing on a chair — cut off their nose to spite their face.
Sheeesh.
I forgot one.
Liberals never pretend to be hardboiled Conservatives and quit loudly at the first opportunity.
Just purely ridiculous. The sky is not falling; it’s exactly where it was two weeks ago Posted by: EBD at June 17, 2008 2:59 PM
That’s right man. Just lay back, close your eyes, and think of nothing. Better? That’s good.
And don’t mind that ISP’s will be obligated by law to perform deep packet inspection on all of your transmissions. All of them. Everything you send, and will recieve.
Just lay back, close your eyes, and think of nothing. Better? That’s good. Nice and easy.
(…nice cost shifting there of enforcement too…wonder who is going to pay for that? any ideas?)
So, hardboiled, when the Conservatives move to protect private property, that means “the reds have eaten the party”?Posted by: EBD at June 17, 2008 3:54 PM
Not at all. And I strongly believe in stopping theives. This legislation is poorly written, and not in the best interests of Canadians. That’s all.
And its’ part of a larger trend in the party. Whether its’ incrementalism, or whatever, this is not Conservative legislation. that’s all.
A couple of points on this topic.
1. When you consider what passes for music and movies these days, I don’t know why anyone is working so hard to have access to that crap anywhere anytime and under any circumstances. I suggest this may be a good time to get back to reading books. On average there are more books worth reading that there are movies worth watching. Who cares … really? It’s all crap!
2. Stephen Harper and his party are not what I consider to be conservative. They may have started out that way, but they are in Ottawa now and they have caught that power virus that makes politicians even more stupid than they already are.
The CPC have lost my vote long ago. If they get rid of the CHRC and the gun registry, I will consider coming back. Meanwhile I will vote for an obscure party if there is one running other than the Liberals, NDP or Greens.
EBD, Section 29.23(1) defines where it is legal to copy a communications signal, 29.23(3) excludes internet only broadcasts from being covered by 29.23(1).
Cheers,
lance
It would be highly instructive, and helpful, if those who make claims about what C-61 says would refer to the specific section of the bill that says that rather than to the avalanche of hearsay on the issue.
Fortunately lance has provided the direct link to C-61, so it’s not hard to find the back-up for any assertion. If we quote the applicable section, then reasonable discussion can begin.
Hardboiled, you said that if C-61 passes “ISPs will be obligated by law to perform deep packet inspections of all your transmissions. All of them. Everything you send, and will receive.”
That’s what you’re saying, and I have no doubt that someone else had said that somewhere else. But shouldn’t you you find and provide the section of the act that says that? Do you know what I’m saying? I’m not saying it’s not IN there, I’m just saying that I can’t find it.
A lot of the more ominous-sounding statements flying around seem, when you read the legislation, like either incorrect interpretations, utter falsehoods and and/or gross overstatement. This diffuse rage has turned into a rolling wildfire of uninformed scaremongering.
There IS going to be a public consultation, BTW. Breathe.
Anyhoo, why NOT refer to the section of the legislation that backs up what you claim it says? It’s sitting right there, for everyone, and yet somehow, for SOME reason….
Ahem.
You may not want to hear this, but paying a carbon tax and abdicating more of your liberties are not mutually exclusive. You could get both.
Lance,
Yes I hear you, yet I refuse to be much concearned because asking Disney, Microsoft or anyone *Permission* is outside most Canadian*s idea of normal.
Life is too short for *sillystuff*.
Canadians are simply resouceful.
If I buy it, I own it, I make all the copies I want to as long as I do not sell any. = TG
I don’t know lance, I don’t think so, lance, but I’ve been wrong before — why, I remember, I believe it was back in the spring of ’82…
Section 29.23(1) says that six particular conditions must be met in order for a recording to be considered legal. 29.23(3) says 29.23(1) does not apply to Internet programs. Hmm. Interpretationville.
Unlike TV, say, almost all internet programs one listens are, by definition, recorded, in that even if you aren’t downloading the show your computer buffers the information so that you can easily — in all instances I’ve ever been aware of — replay the event again, as long as your computer hasn’t been shut down. I assume this is why they exempted — IMO, in my interpretation — internet broadcasts from any restrictions on recording.
I don’t know. Any bureaucrat lawyers out there who can parse or explain that section?
EBD: This government published site makes it very clear what the intent of the bill is in plain English.
I just can’t post a link here since it goes straight to the spam filter. Google “copyright reform” and read any of the “limitations” sections under “fact sheets”
Yeah, the gun registry is still here. This one is hard to argue.
Done, KS; Which particular passage do you consider to be a harbinger of bad news in some self-evident way? You don’t need to give the link, but could you type out or cut and paste the passage(s) you refer to?
There’s a lot of allusions to there being somethin’ in the woodshed, as it were, and perhaps there is, but…
EBD:
# You could not circumvent or hack a technological measure (digital lock) to make the copy.
# You could not make a copy of a song that has been downloaded from the Internet and where you have entered into a contract that governs the extent to which you may make copies of the song. In such cases, the terms of the contract would prevail.
# Creators would have a wide range of legal remedies in relation to the digital locks they may use, including:
…criminal remedies in certain cases
All current fair use rights are overriden by these limitations.
What a revolting country. Grown men and women looking for any excuse they can find, the more asinine the better apparently, to *not* vote for a conservative party. Ugh.
Will the Liberals become the first party in world history elected on a promise to introduce a huge new tax?
During a period of negative real GDP growth?
Oh yeah. Canada is easily gross enough to pull that off.
EBD: This provision under Format-Shifting is even more blunt:
# With respect to audiovisual material such as films, the format-shifting provision would apply only to videocassettes and would not allow you to make copies of material stored on other media, such as DVDs.
Because DVDs contain a digital lock… savvy?