I’m not going to bother with exerpts from either one. Just read both in their entirety – Michael Coren and Salim Mansur.
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Truth is HATE!
So says the Left.
I suppose that ‘auntie em’ or whatever her ilk was, will be along to denounce these two great articles as examples of Western racism.
Auntie em: shove it!
islam can and WILL be criticized, mocked, ridiculed and humiliated.
Two absolutely superb columns. Both of them saying, that we cannot ignore fundamentalist Islam, that we cannot ignore that its axioms are dysfunctional in a modern society.
This means that we must, as a society, reject multiculturalism, which adamantly asserts that all religions and all cultures are equally valid in a modern society; that all beliefs and behaviour are equally able to function in a modern society. This is untrue; they aren’t equal in ability to enable their members to participate in a modern society. We must end this repressive and harmful ideology of multiculturalism.
Multiculturalism sets up immigrants in isolate blocs. It prevents these people from examining their beliefs and behaviour and adapting to modern society. Furthermore, it sets these blocs up as political fiefdoms, with authoritative leaders who rule over their membership with strict and repressive authority. Our provincial and federal govts fund these fiefdoms, and the agenda of their leaders is to retain their membership, prevent assimilation, and enhance their political power as Distinct Sets.
This isolation of immigrants into communities, isolated, and repressed, with the agenda of replicating their old culture’s beliefs and behaviour – sets them up as dysfunctional. A modern pluralist democracy is very different from the old regime they came from; we don’t enable them to adapt.
Furthermore, the Muslim community must confront this isolation and the extremist element in its midst. But, we, the host country, must insist that our country is not a hotel made up of separate isolate rooms whose residents know nothing about what goes on in the other rooms. We are a community; what goes on in one room affects the other rooms.
Quebec (and Australia) have it right; we must declare to immigrants that Canada is a country that has certain basic axioms of life which they must acknowledge as non-negotiable. These are freedom of speech and association, a secular government, equality of men and women.
We must end multiculturalism which actually enables and encourages the continuance of these dysfunctional ancient tribal beliefs and behaviour.
Islam cannot be mocked. At least so it will be if the HRCs get their way.
Sign the petition! http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/a-free-dominion-against-the-hrcs/signatures.html
You take free speech for granted? Don’t. In Europe non-elected and non-judicial bodies are shutting down free speech. If the HRC rules against Macleans or Steyn, you can be sure that the above statement: “islam can and WILL be criticized, mocked, ridiculed and humiliated” will no longer be true in Canada.
“If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”
— Winston Churchill
sign the damn petition!
500 signatures so far. 50,000 are needed!
Muslim men have taken note of the reaction of real Canadians to this murder and will send their females back to the old country for discipline like they used to.
Twilight zone time. Just finished reading both columns and then wandered over here.
Hope they both have good lawyers, because the CIC is about to sic the CHRC on em.
Don’t hold your breath, ET. Well I agree with what you say, I am sure it will have to get a lot worse before we see any change in multi-cultism. If a Muslim terrorist murdered several hundred or few thousand Canadians, within Canada, we MIGHT see some movement.
But, the CBC and the rest of the lame stream media will blame the rest of Canada for driving the innocent Muslim victim to strike out in frustration and because of systemic Canadian racism. You must know that white people are evil (especially males and capitalists). Whites are the cause of the entire world’s troubles; members of visible minorities can do NO wrong, regardless of how many they slaughter.
ET: I’m not sure that the Muslims want to adapt. If you look at Holland, Amsterdam in particular, they stick together in their chosen parts of a city and then control it to the point that police refuse to go there. Muslims often look down on Western society and have no desire integrate because they view society as decadent in comparison to their own religion. You cannot force immigrants to integrate if they don’t want to.
If you read the comments under the relevant stories this week, at the Post and the Globe and Mail, you’ll see that Canadians have duly digested the pap about multiculturalism. One of them actually used the word “mosaic” — haven’t heard that one in years.
Even Canadians who care are mostly too timid to do anything. Petitions are fine (as long as you keep the information for further actions…) but in the face of the government’s unlimited power, they are not enough.
It’s interesting that these 2 articles are from the SUN. Twenty years ago I used to get the New York Times delivered. The Slimes seemed sophisticated versus the riff raff SUN. I don’t think I was a utopian but I was certainly naive. The lesson is perhaps that the great unwashed middle class will sort this stuff out faster than the chattering class.
I cancelled the Slimes years ago and now I find myself reading the Sun regularly on the net.
Also, I think Salim Mansur as a Muslim deserves our support for having the courage to continually speak out in his Saturday columns in the SUN, my hat is off to him.
Meanwhile, in the Palestinian territories, Christians who have lived there for hundreds if not thousands of years are being driven out by persecution. Current projections are there will be none left in 15 years.
And nobody cares.
Because the eager-to-appease West accepts the notion that some countries are “Islamic”, and Islamic nations have the right to impose their religion on the populace.
In short, Western nations are obliged to accommodate to Islam, but Islamic countries are not expected to accommodate non-muslims.
The Little Farce on the Prairie is more to the truth.
Why ever would the CBC pick such a take off name from Little House on the Prairie? It’s sacrilege.
It’s pure tripe and as far from reality as it can get. Is it a farce, a spoof or something more sinister?
One thing we know for certain, the CBC is not tuned in to the majority of Canadians but we ALL have to pay dearly for their piffle.
Just wondering, when can we expect to see the LMOTP episode with the honour killing, the public flogging, and the beheading of an infidel?
Kathy. I agree that the “power” of an internet poll is limited. It cannot directly influence anything.
However, polls demonstrate numbers. Politicians notice numbers. It’s easy for the few hundred, or maybe even thousand, hard core right wing bloggers in Canada who all read each others blogs and link back and forth to rant and rave to each other and convince each other that their point of view is correct. But unless we can demonstrate that our views are shared by larger numbers of people, all of us here are doomed to irrelevance.
The politicos will start to see things our way when it is apparent that much of what is said here is
i) representative of the views of a significant number of voting Canadians
ii) not part of loathsome racist or bigoted agendas unacceptable to the overwhelming majority of Canadians
I look at that petition and I see a comment saying “HOMOSEXUALITY IS A DISEASE”, and I think to myself… “Crap. This person is not really helping.”
Yes, Canadians are timid. Yes, it is easy for special interest groups who have their voice in the the governments ear, and hand in their pockets, to walk all over Canadians.
That’s why when a specific situation arises that is so patently obvious and hits home to a larger and more mainstream audience (i.e. Macleans) we have to seize on it and use it to the hilt.
There will never be an outcry in Canada to protect some guy’s right to give out pamphlets saying that homosexuality is a crime. Never.
There MIGHT be an outcry in Canada if a group of disliked individuals try to muzzle a Canadian institution like Macleans. Use the opportunity, or lose it.
“According to the Shari’ah, it is incumbent upon a Muslim female to fully cover herself in front of Ghayr Mahram men besides her hands and feet. If any part of her body, be it even a strand of hair is exposed in front of non-Mahram men, she will be sinful for exposing her Satar / Awrah, and will unfortunately earn the curse and wrath of Allah.
and Allah Ta’ala Knows Best”
Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Oh, and who could ever forget this bit from an Australian Imam, commenting on a Muslim charged in a raping binge in Sydney:
“In the religious address on adultery to about 500 worshippers in Sydney last month, Sheik Hilali said: “If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it … whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?
“The uncovered meat is the problem.”
The sheik then said: “If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred.”
He said women were “weapons” used by “Satan” to control men.
“It is said in the state of zina (adultery), the responsibility falls 90 per cent of the time on the woman. Why? Because she possesses the weapon of enticement (igraa).”
This is Islam.
I would gladly have signed the petition hadn’t it been organized by some group of “social conservatives”.
There is a certain group of social conservatives who know how to take care of disobedient gays, women and children, and another(much more civilized) who merely dislikes them.
But I don’t want to be associated with either.
“Only a bigot would argue that every Muslim was violent or opposed to Western freedom. But only a coward or a liar would argue that there was not a profound and deeply worrying link between conservative Islam and myriad acts of terror, intolerance and hysterical anger.”
A bit of balanced thinking I would be glad to see more posters exhibit.
Johan – I appreciate your concern. But there is nothing in that petition that supports bigotry or hatred. It is a plea for preservation of free speech without threat that a non-elected non-judicial body often appointed on the basis of special interest, will not be free to go after you because someone doesn’t like what you said.
It does not associate any signer with any special group or ideology.
Some of the signatories have obvious issues I don’t agree with, but you can’t pick and choose. Either we all have free speech, or none.
Johan i Kanada
Ya, I believe they were called Nazis and communists, socialists at there finest. Your hypocrisy is beyond reproach.
teddy
If you cannot stomach the debate here then feel free go to one of your lefty sites where I have been told that differing opinion and open discussion are always encouraged and embraced.
As long as you agree with everything they say of course
test
So, if I understand the imam correctly, what he is saying is that mohammedean men are so deficient in self-control that they have given up even trying and want to take the easy way out?
I’m supposed to respect these people?!
I’ve never seen Little Mosque and have no intention of wasting my time doing so. AFAIK, the CBC provides one valuable service, providing us with a once-weekly dose of HNIC where Don Cherry (praise be upon him) gives the parasites who run the CBC fits.
It’s satisfying thinking about the CBC censor with his finger on the ‘mute’ button, crunching antacid tablets one after the other, waiting for good old Don (PBUH) to say something offensive, but true.
Why are Canadians “timid”? Why are they afraid to speak out? Why is it so easy to dupe so many Canadians and to brainwash our young?
The saying “If you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything” is totally apt for most Canadians.
We used to stand with and for the Judeo-Christian values that were foundational to our judicial, civil, political, and educational insitutions, AND our family lives. These were the values that gave us the courage and conviction with which to face a brutal enemy whose sole objective was to deny us democratic freedoms. Thank you, Lori, for the powerful words from Winston Churchill.
Most Canadians don’t stand for anything, anymore, which makes them easy prey for the multi-culti, “we are the world” idiots who have invited immoderate, fanatical, violent, and dangerous extremists into our country–and, to add insult to injury, have handed them the keys to the kingdom (scandalously easy access to HRCs). Descendents of those whose fathers and grandfathers made sure Canada didn’t fall prey to the Nazis in WWII are now the hosts of parasites which are eating the apple from the inside out.
“Without a vision, the people perish.” Canada has become a nation without a vision, which has made us very easy to overcome. How tragic for our children and grandchildren.
It looks like the Muzzie men can’t control their “urges”, can’t bear to see a bit of female flesh, in some cases not even facial flesh.
Is this the reason they go out of control, off their sticks and beat their women if they dare show any independence?
Clicked on LHOTHP during a commercial break, while watching hockey.
CBC had the slick young Imam arguing with the Catholic priest over ‘territory’ – who would use the church/mosque hall and whether Christmas or Eid would prevail.
The Imam mocks the prient’s ‘dingaling sing-a-long’ of Christmas hymns and songs. The priest says, “don’t mess around with Christians” and the Imam fires back, “Yeah, will don’t fu…..ss, with Muslim’s.” Followed by, “oh, I guess that’s a bad choice of words.”
CBC writing at it’s finest, telling it like they believe it.
I signed the petition.
I saw one comment that was a bit “harsh” on homosexuality but isn’t that the whole point?
that we should be allowed to say certain “unpleasant ” things about certain people/group?
But then again that guy could be a multi-culti-leftist trying to sabotage the petition ?…
because if there are hundreds of decent comments, and one bad comment, we all know which one will be used by the left against us…
either way he is allowed to say what he said about homosexuality ( “a treatable disease” )
that is what free speech is.
How right you are, ‘been around the block, as usual.
We are currently reaping that sown by the Left of the spectrum through our education systems for over two decades.
Sadly, we stand for close to nothing, bend to all comers. We’ve allowed ourselves to be rendered impotent on all that this country was built upon and stood for. Trudeau and his Charter was the beginning of our undoing.
IMO, a Harper Conservative Majority government is needed to bring us back to what our forebears put in place. We need some respect to be given to our Prime Minister for starters.
Harper has already earned respect but is being challenged at every turn by desperate Liberals and their cohorts in the MSM.
It’s all desperation politics, desperate to get back on the gravy train they’ve become so accustomed to at our expense. Morals and ethics are not even on their wavelength.
If we continue to stand for all things to all people and stand for nothing, how long will it be before we mirror the hell holes stupid immigration policies have dumped on us?
“Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.” ~ Alexander Hamilton
Because the eager-to-appease West accepts the notion that some countries are “Islamic”, and Islamic nations have the right to impose their religion on the populace.
In short, Western nations are obliged to accommodate to Islam, but Islamic countries are not expected to accommodate non-muslims. Posted by: Richard Ball at December 15, 2007 6:02 PM
Too true! One of my pet topics at the moment is Kosovo — going back to when our very own Maj-Gen Lewis McKenzie famously opined that “we bombed the wrong side”. (Maj-Gen. Lewis MacKenzie, now retired, commanded UN troops during the Bosnian civil war of 1992).
Walid makes exactly your point here: Be Wise on Kosovo
I read two of of Phares’ books: Future Jihad and The War of Ideas.
I hooted when I read Coren’s column in today’s Sun, and it was loud enough for my wife to come in from the next room and ask me what was up.
I just said, “Read this, and watch the Stalinist HRC go after Coren in the weeks to come”
And I’m sure that’ll happen, too.
The more journalists who drag this cult screaming and smouldering into the light of day, the better; the time has long since passed for the West to wake up.
mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm
Liz J, I totally agree about your thoughts on Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his government: A majority under their leadership will begin the turning around of our country from the wreck it’s become, “courtesy” of the Magus, Trudeau, and his damned Charter, to sane, common sense, ethical governance.
It takes a long time to turn an ocean liner around. First, it has to slow down, then it can change direction.
PMSH has begun to slow down Canada’s rapid descent into illiberal decadence and corruption, and needs all the support he can get, especially with the viscious and ravenous MSM attack dogs snarling at his heels.
Steve Janke has a good piece on the yellow journalism of the CBC over at Angry in the Great White North.
If our journalists are considered brave to write an article in Canada, how must a little 15 year old girl have felt, about fighting against her family?
I feel that we let her down. Canada let her down, we did not defend her, or her rights as a Canadian, and she was trying so hard to assert her own independence.
So the two articles are “brave”, but that little girl was the brave one, and she paid with her life. The very people who should be protecting her rights, the HRC, are supporting the radical elements by agreeing to hear the claim against MacLeans. If I was a Muslim seeing that, I sure wouldn’t have any faith in our system helping me if I needed it. Heck, a lot of average bloggers are being called in front of those tribunals, and they are being fined. If MacLeans, with the resources to fight this lose, how can a blogger, with no resources expect to win?
We need to get rid of those quasi-legal tribunals, they are doing more harm than good.
Mr. Mansur “gets it” …he is Canadian.
ET,I have to disagree with you,and one of the very few times that I have. Multi-culturalism is not necessary a bad thing,what is a bad thing is allowing an evil culture to fester amongst the peaceful. We should have Chinatowns,Mexican villages,and every other culture in our midst. Yes,they are separate,but if we enjoy each other ,why not. Islam is not multi-culturalism. Islam is a society,that puts the man at top.Woman are breeding stock,except for the occasional foray in front of the cameras to smile and say everything is OK. Islam probably doesn’t like your uppity atitude,you and your educated ways. I know they don’t like me.Multi-culturalism is a great thing,it is like having a banquet of tasty food,and my mouth is watering,but NO,NO,NO,don’t put that scoop of putrid islam on my plate.
Not to put too fine a point on it but Islam is not an ethnicity or a culture, its a religion and as such is protected under PET’s charter of rights.
It is not multiculturalism that is the problem. Hindus don’t whine about dietary concerns in public places, Chinese don’t whine about head gear in sports, Koreans don’t whine about special family laws for themselves, Christian Lebanese don’t whine about visible religious symbols, Hispanics don’t strangle their daughters to regain their honor/manhood, Italians are not burdened with subverting their host, Portuguese don’t believe they are a supremacist sect that is above the laws that are not their own, Buddhists don’t purposely draw welfare and feel it is a blow for their “religion”.
Only one group does these things and they are the only problem.
you want to sign a petition go ahead, i did. i also wrote directly to the pm. we all can do that and it would probably be more effective than a peitition.
I altogether agree with batb.
Like Esau, we’ve sold our heritage “for a mess of pottage”. Most Canadians stand for nothing—other than, it seems, making nice (that’s not the same as BEING nice) and turning a blind eye to any unpleasantness. So they quite easily fall for anything. (I believe it was G.K. Chesterton who coined that phrase.)
I was recently in a school where a bulletin board had a prominent display devoted to Eid, Diwali, and Kwanzaa (a festival recently made up by activist black Americans). Hanukkah and Christmas? No sign of them.
In other schools, where Hanukkah is prominent, religious symbols, including the menorah, are on display. What are the symbols for Christmas? Frosty, Christmas trees, Santa: not an Advent wreath, creche, shepherds, kings, angels, or star in sight.
Once, after the juxtaposition of an anti-Christian joke, told by a visiting speaker, at which everyone laughed, and the promotion of “anti-homophobia” literature and videos for the K-6 students in the school, I spoke up at the next staff meeting. I pointed out that our board’s “Equity” policy is highly selective: I identified myself as a Christian—now THAT’S coming out of the closet, these days!—and said it’s very clear that only certain groups are included in the policy, while other groups are conspicuously not, and open to ridicule—“We all laughed at a joke making fun of Christians”. I also said that I could take it and wasn’t about to fall apart, but that I didn’t appreciate either the put down or the board’s hypocrisy. One could have heard a pin drop. The principal made no comment and quickly moved on to the next item on the agenda.
Later, a teacher spoke to me privately. She was very polite, even deferential: “I’m not a Christian like you [maybe we should consider the negative connotations of so many of us turning our backs on our founding religion], but I and many others believe what you said and altogether agree. We’re tired of having to promote all kinds of cultures we don’t really agree with. We’re tired of letting people from certain groups off the hook. We’re tired of having to constantly watch what we say and having to look over our shoulders all the time.”
This treacherous double standard is now actually dangerous: trouble maker children, with attitude, usually from visible minorities, can and do use passing on lies and innuendo to administration in order to intimidate and cross check their teachers. Via samizdat, I personally know of a number of cases—the board, in typical gulag style, isolates the teacher and demands absolute silence—where, based on the lies of the most unreliable students, teachers have been summarily removed from their classes, charged—weeks later—and, with no due process to prove the allegations, have been disciplined, via forced leaves of absence/transfers, hefty fines (loss of a week’s pay), re-education classes, and letters of reprimand in their files. (Here. In Canada. I’m not making this up.) The consequences for the children? None. Talk about “chill”: knowing what power they wield with administration over their teachers, these duplicitous children swagger and preen. Teachers keep their heads down and their mouths shut. (BTW, teachers who are visible minority or homosexual appear to be exempt from this kind of harassment.)
Canada’s hypocritical multiculturalism policies are altogether unjust and dangerous. While they are used to jackboot responsible citizens from our founding cultures, they incubate tyrants and bullies in our schools.
“Wachet auf!” Awake, arise, Canadians! It’s about time we stopped the treachery in our midst by our addle-brained, arrogant elites and those who would exploit both their stupidity and duplicity. Let’s stop making nice and start making progress—thanks, Michael and Salim—at taking back our once strong and free country.
Lookout,
Perhaps these bigots and the officials that endorse them should be named and their addresses published for all to see.
As long as these shadow people and bloks are allowed to remain in the dark, they will further their insidious plans.
Call them out, make their names and addresses public and watch the cowards shake and squirm.
Maybe you should consider starting a blog with this one purpose in mind? It seems vitally important.
BL@KBIRD, I agree totally. Keep posting.
irwin daisy: yes, your idea has a lot of merit. However, I and those who’d pass on information would be “outed” and our careers vastly compromised and/or shortened. The board I’m talking about is absolutely vicious: no dirty trick or skulduggery is beneath them.
The restructuring of the Ontario school boards, with administration out of the union—which is useless to teachers in the travails I mention—has separated administration and teachers into “us and them”: divide and conquer, with the teachers being in a very vulnerable position. We’re conquered all the time. The new dispensation has also given administration new powers over us. E.g., The teacher evaluations are often used as a political tool to punish “uppity” teachers. I know of many examples of even—or, in particular—exemplary teachers being given a low rating as pay back for not toeing the dumbed down, politically correct fiats of the board and its “Orcs”, e.g., VPs and principals, who, if they want to stay in the good graces of their masters, are required to be sycophants and toadies.
Outside of the union, which is full of administration wannabes, there are no avenues to crtitique a superior, even if one were brave or foolhardy enough to do so. The ethos of the board is: “We are wonderful. Problems? We have no problems.” There is a culture of silence, at least as far as teachers are concerned. The intimidation is pretty well complete.
If I should name names—and I could—the innocent teachers involved, not me, would be the vulnerable ones and, believe me, they’d pay the price. If my salary weren’t necessary, I’d be very interested in starting a blog to out the weasels in public school boards. They’re legion and deserve to be exposed for the tin pot dictators they are, all the while spouting the mantra of inclusiveness and tolerance.
Notice that in the Jordan Manners’ murder investigation, Julian Falconer, handpicked by the Toronto Board to investigate, has had two extensions and hasn’t yet reached a conclusion, except to say, “There are no villains in the piece.” Right. And just what the board wants to hear. Lots of students were asked for input. I’m sure that, even if asked, most teachers were afraid to say what they really think.
The public education systems in this country, besides doing a very poor job of educating the lowest common denominator—the pooh-bahs at the ministries and in their ivory tower offices are too busy coddling the miscreants’ feelings and appeasing their often appalling behaviour—are emboldening an underclass of ignorant, entitled thugs, who know they can use the system to jackboot the responsible adults who are abandoned in the trenches, e.g., the classrooms of this country.
It’s a bloody mess. In a gulag, which is not much of an exaggeration for the closed, repressive public education systems in Canada, it’s very hard to fight back. And isn’t that the very point of a gulag?
No, I disagree with those who put the blame only on Islam.
Certainly, Islam is seriously at fault, for trying to maintain a social/cultural mode, a 7th century tribal mode, that is not functional in a modern society.
Just as Sikhs who demand to wear a kirpan because it is ‘traditional’, ignoring that in modern society, such are not needed. Or arranging marriages, and so on.
But, as an immigrant nation, we are enabling these immigrant groups to maintain these dysfunctional cultures by promoting and even insisting on their isolation, on their actually maintaining these out-of-date beliefs and behaviour.
We have set up immigrants into isolate fiefdoms, political mini-states, rules by strict authoritarian leaders who control their membership. This control, this isolation of immigrants into political fiefdoms, means that they cannot critique themselves; they can’t change; they can’t examine whether their old ways are proper in our modern society.
We have, with multiculturalism, pushed all immigrants under the thumb of mini-states within our nation – and as we’ve seen in the Muslim world in Canada, these mini-states can be autocratic and totalitarian. People in those communities are afraid to think for themselves, afraid to adapt to Canadian values.
Coming to a new country ought to be a chance to free oneself of the dysfunctionalities of the old way. Multiculturalism not only prevents that, but actually enforces an even more rigid old way of life, as the leaders of these mini-nations try to maintain control.
…$5 that Michael Coren gets a Islamabad bounty on his head before Christmas…
ET
If we didn’t have multiculturalism but we still had Muslim immigration nothing at all would be different as regards Muslim behavior. To label all immigrant cultures as “dysfunctional” as you did is a little harsh. All lot of cultural habits may seem odd but they are not necessarily dysfunctional or have a sinister intent as does Islam. Islam is dysfuntional in it’s native habitat and anywhere it settles in the world. Islam is the only group to be seriously concerned with because they carry the religious burden of having to subdue and bring all non Muslims under their boot heel.
I agree that the touchy feely multi-culti crap needs curtailing but it will not make Muslims inclined to become Canadian in the least even if it is dropped.
blackbird – I didn’t label all immigrant groups as dysfunctional. I specifically said ‘these’ not ‘all’ and was referring to those tribal modes (Islam, Sikh, Hindu – which tend to operate within the ideology of tribalism rather than a civic sociopolitical mode).
I think that multiculturalism, as a policy, is dangerous because it rejects adaptation, it doesn’t enable these groups to modernize and adapt. Instead, it specifically allows them to retain these dysfunctional modes. It encourages them to retain them. AND, since it sets them up as isolate fiefdoms, with autocratic leaders, the members of these cultural groups are prevented by those leaders, from adapting to the larger Canadian society.
Islam in particular is in a difficult position, because it set up its social and political modes of behaviour within a religious infrastructure, moving this belief/behaviour outside of reason and change – and into dogma. That puts Islam into a bind – and has led to fascism, as it tries to prevent change. But, it has to change, and Muslims are, more and more, voicing that it must change (eg Salim Mansur, Tarek Fatah, Irshad Manji and others).
But we in the West have to reject fundamentalist Islam, we have to reject that WE should change and adapt to them; they must accept our basic axioms – freedom of speech and thought, primacy of the individual rather than the ethnic group; equality of men and women; a secular civic society. That’s basic. We must insist on this. Multiculturalism actually rejects our basic rights!
The New York Post has an article today in support of Mark Steyn re the CIC’s Human Rights (sic) case against him. Of course, as the article points out, the case against Steyn proves his point.
Such irony is lost on the Muslim aggressors and anal retentive Commission types.
Kyrie eleison.
Oh before you know it, Muslims will be able to pass sentencing on their own in Canada – the father would probably receive an award for strangling his daughter. If this wasn’t a one time thing, we would be able to state this father was an extremist or mentally ill, but it goes on wherever Muslims live….so let’s not kid ourselves.
I vaguely recall a fable that in the end asks, “Who will bell the cat”.
Who was it who decided that children were an option for the lazy and the stupid?
Who was it decided that the God of our fathers shall have no dominion over me?
Who was it decided we shall hide our lights under a bushel basket?
Which mental midget amongst us sits bestride the backs of giants and dares imagine, we are loftier than they?
We have sown the breeze and are now reaping the whirlwind should we be surprised?
Its not the Muslim’s fault. They are but the whet stone being used to hone us that we might actually stand for something and do something and be someone who matters.
Don’t try to reform them. We must try reform ourselves and having done so see how quickly they fall.
The Islamic faith is one that dwells in fear loathing and ignorance. We only strengthen it when we deal in the same.
Joe, though hidden, there is wisdom in your words. But, I fear, we live in an age so darkened by self-interest and apostasy that what you have to say will largely fall on deaf ears.
Think The Lord of the Rings: only a small Fellowship understood the danger. Nearly everyone else was oblivious. With due respect, your idea that “We must try [to] reform ourselves [yes, always a good idea] and having done so, see how quickly they [civilization’s enemies] fall”, though worthy, is not very likely.
Remember the Fellowship: though aware of the need for humility, in the end, some members had to fight. Pacifism is a fine idea, but it’s often impractical and usually gives the upper hand to the enemy. Kyrie eleison.
Sorry if I mis-led you lookout. I have never advocated a pacifist position. What I am saying is simply this as a society we need to “Take the plank out of our eye first so we can see clearly to remove the mote from our brother’s eye”. Right now all I read is futile gnashing of teeth instead of the steady strong answers we require to win this war. We need to realize that the reason the Muslims act the way they do is because that is the nature of the Muslim faith. Tinkering with the faith (expecting it to reform itself) is like washing a pig. The minute you finish washing it, it returns to its wallow. Basing our hopes for peace on “moderate Muslims” is like putting new wine into old wineskins. In very short order the ‘moderates’ will find reason to become ‘hardline’ and you are right back to where you started.
What you as a Christian and I as a Christian need to do is examine what it is we truly believe. Having done that examination build upon the foundation of that belief and take the required stand. How many times was St Paul shipwrecked, whipped, imprisoned and stoned before he was beheaded for turning his world upside down with his faith? Are we willing to do the same?
Truth is HATE!
So says the Left.
I suppose that ‘auntie em’ or whatever her ilk was, will be along to denounce these two great articles as examples of Western racism.
Auntie em: shove it!
islam can and WILL be criticized, mocked, ridiculed and humiliated.
For anyone interested, I have video from Michael Coren’s show on the subject:
Part 1: Michael Coren on Aqsa Parvez’s murder
Part 2: Michael Coren on Aqsa Parvez’s murder
Hana makes an appearance as cuckoo disbarred lawyer Harry Kopyto. :~)
Two absolutely superb columns. Both of them saying, that we cannot ignore fundamentalist Islam, that we cannot ignore that its axioms are dysfunctional in a modern society.
This means that we must, as a society, reject multiculturalism, which adamantly asserts that all religions and all cultures are equally valid in a modern society; that all beliefs and behaviour are equally able to function in a modern society. This is untrue; they aren’t equal in ability to enable their members to participate in a modern society. We must end this repressive and harmful ideology of multiculturalism.
Multiculturalism sets up immigrants in isolate blocs. It prevents these people from examining their beliefs and behaviour and adapting to modern society. Furthermore, it sets these blocs up as political fiefdoms, with authoritative leaders who rule over their membership with strict and repressive authority. Our provincial and federal govts fund these fiefdoms, and the agenda of their leaders is to retain their membership, prevent assimilation, and enhance their political power as Distinct Sets.
This isolation of immigrants into communities, isolated, and repressed, with the agenda of replicating their old culture’s beliefs and behaviour – sets them up as dysfunctional. A modern pluralist democracy is very different from the old regime they came from; we don’t enable them to adapt.
Furthermore, the Muslim community must confront this isolation and the extremist element in its midst. But, we, the host country, must insist that our country is not a hotel made up of separate isolate rooms whose residents know nothing about what goes on in the other rooms. We are a community; what goes on in one room affects the other rooms.
Quebec (and Australia) have it right; we must declare to immigrants that Canada is a country that has certain basic axioms of life which they must acknowledge as non-negotiable. These are freedom of speech and association, a secular government, equality of men and women.
We must end multiculturalism which actually enables and encourages the continuance of these dysfunctional ancient tribal beliefs and behaviour.
Islam cannot be mocked. At least so it will be if the HRCs get their way.
Sign the petition!
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/a-free-dominion-against-the-hrcs/signatures.html
You take free speech for granted? Don’t. In Europe non-elected and non-judicial bodies are shutting down free speech. If the HRC rules against Macleans or Steyn, you can be sure that the above statement: “islam can and WILL be criticized, mocked, ridiculed and humiliated” will no longer be true in Canada.
“If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”
— Winston Churchill
sign the damn petition!
500 signatures so far. 50,000 are needed!
Muslim men have taken note of the reaction of real Canadians to this murder and will send their females back to the old country for discipline like they used to.
Twilight zone time. Just finished reading both columns and then wandered over here.
Hope they both have good lawyers, because the CIC is about to sic the CHRC on em.
Don’t hold your breath, ET. Well I agree with what you say, I am sure it will have to get a lot worse before we see any change in multi-cultism. If a Muslim terrorist murdered several hundred or few thousand Canadians, within Canada, we MIGHT see some movement.
But, the CBC and the rest of the lame stream media will blame the rest of Canada for driving the innocent Muslim victim to strike out in frustration and because of systemic Canadian racism. You must know that white people are evil (especially males and capitalists). Whites are the cause of the entire world’s troubles; members of visible minorities can do NO wrong, regardless of how many they slaughter.
ET: I’m not sure that the Muslims want to adapt. If you look at Holland, Amsterdam in particular, they stick together in their chosen parts of a city and then control it to the point that police refuse to go there. Muslims often look down on Western society and have no desire integrate because they view society as decadent in comparison to their own religion. You cannot force immigrants to integrate if they don’t want to.
If you read the comments under the relevant stories this week, at the Post and the Globe and Mail, you’ll see that Canadians have duly digested the pap about multiculturalism. One of them actually used the word “mosaic” — haven’t heard that one in years.
Even Canadians who care are mostly too timid to do anything. Petitions are fine (as long as you keep the information for further actions…) but in the face of the government’s unlimited power, they are not enough.
It’s interesting that these 2 articles are from the SUN. Twenty years ago I used to get the New York Times delivered. The Slimes seemed sophisticated versus the riff raff SUN. I don’t think I was a utopian but I was certainly naive. The lesson is perhaps that the great unwashed middle class will sort this stuff out faster than the chattering class.
I cancelled the Slimes years ago and now I find myself reading the Sun regularly on the net.
Also, I think Salim Mansur as a Muslim deserves our support for having the courage to continually speak out in his Saturday columns in the SUN, my hat is off to him.
Meanwhile, in the Palestinian territories, Christians who have lived there for hundreds if not thousands of years are being driven out by persecution. Current projections are there will be none left in 15 years.
And nobody cares.
Because the eager-to-appease West accepts the notion that some countries are “Islamic”, and Islamic nations have the right to impose their religion on the populace.
In short, Western nations are obliged to accommodate to Islam, but Islamic countries are not expected to accommodate non-muslims.
The Little Farce on the Prairie is more to the truth.
Why ever would the CBC pick such a take off name from Little House on the Prairie? It’s sacrilege.
It’s pure tripe and as far from reality as it can get. Is it a farce, a spoof or something more sinister?
One thing we know for certain, the CBC is not tuned in to the majority of Canadians but we ALL have to pay dearly for their piffle.
Just wondering, when can we expect to see the LMOTP episode with the honour killing, the public flogging, and the beheading of an infidel?
Kathy. I agree that the “power” of an internet poll is limited. It cannot directly influence anything.
However, polls demonstrate numbers. Politicians notice numbers. It’s easy for the few hundred, or maybe even thousand, hard core right wing bloggers in Canada who all read each others blogs and link back and forth to rant and rave to each other and convince each other that their point of view is correct. But unless we can demonstrate that our views are shared by larger numbers of people, all of us here are doomed to irrelevance.
The politicos will start to see things our way when it is apparent that much of what is said here is
i) representative of the views of a significant number of voting Canadians
ii) not part of loathsome racist or bigoted agendas unacceptable to the overwhelming majority of Canadians
I look at that petition and I see a comment saying “HOMOSEXUALITY IS A DISEASE”, and I think to myself… “Crap. This person is not really helping.”
Yes, Canadians are timid. Yes, it is easy for special interest groups who have their voice in the the governments ear, and hand in their pockets, to walk all over Canadians.
That’s why when a specific situation arises that is so patently obvious and hits home to a larger and more mainstream audience (i.e. Macleans) we have to seize on it and use it to the hilt.
There will never be an outcry in Canada to protect some guy’s right to give out pamphlets saying that homosexuality is a crime. Never.
There MIGHT be an outcry in Canada if a group of disliked individuals try to muzzle a Canadian institution like Macleans. Use the opportunity, or lose it.
“According to the Shari’ah, it is incumbent upon a Muslim female to fully cover herself in front of Ghayr Mahram men besides her hands and feet. If any part of her body, be it even a strand of hair is exposed in front of non-Mahram men, she will be sinful for exposing her Satar / Awrah, and will unfortunately earn the curse and wrath of Allah.
and Allah Ta’ala Knows Best”
Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Oh, and who could ever forget this bit from an Australian Imam, commenting on a Muslim charged in a raping binge in Sydney:
“In the religious address on adultery to about 500 worshippers in Sydney last month, Sheik Hilali said: “If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it … whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?
“The uncovered meat is the problem.”
The sheik then said: “If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred.”
He said women were “weapons” used by “Satan” to control men.
“It is said in the state of zina (adultery), the responsibility falls 90 per cent of the time on the woman. Why? Because she possesses the weapon of enticement (igraa).”
This is Islam.
I would gladly have signed the petition hadn’t it been organized by some group of “social conservatives”.
There is a certain group of social conservatives who know how to take care of disobedient gays, women and children, and another(much more civilized) who merely dislikes them.
But I don’t want to be associated with either.
“Only a bigot would argue that every Muslim was violent or opposed to Western freedom. But only a coward or a liar would argue that there was not a profound and deeply worrying link between conservative Islam and myriad acts of terror, intolerance and hysterical anger.”
A bit of balanced thinking I would be glad to see more posters exhibit.
Johan – I appreciate your concern. But there is nothing in that petition that supports bigotry or hatred. It is a plea for preservation of free speech without threat that a non-elected non-judicial body often appointed on the basis of special interest, will not be free to go after you because someone doesn’t like what you said.
It does not associate any signer with any special group or ideology.
Some of the signatories have obvious issues I don’t agree with, but you can’t pick and choose. Either we all have free speech, or none.
Johan i Kanada
Ya, I believe they were called Nazis and communists, socialists at there finest. Your hypocrisy is beyond reproach.
teddy
If you cannot stomach the debate here then feel free go to one of your lefty sites where I have been told that differing opinion and open discussion are always encouraged and embraced.
As long as you agree with everything they say of course
test
So, if I understand the imam correctly, what he is saying is that mohammedean men are so deficient in self-control that they have given up even trying and want to take the easy way out?
I’m supposed to respect these people?!
I’ve never seen Little Mosque and have no intention of wasting my time doing so. AFAIK, the CBC provides one valuable service, providing us with a once-weekly dose of HNIC where Don Cherry (praise be upon him) gives the parasites who run the CBC fits.
It’s satisfying thinking about the CBC censor with his finger on the ‘mute’ button, crunching antacid tablets one after the other, waiting for good old Don (PBUH) to say something offensive, but true.
Why are Canadians “timid”? Why are they afraid to speak out? Why is it so easy to dupe so many Canadians and to brainwash our young?
The saying “If you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything” is totally apt for most Canadians.
We used to stand with and for the Judeo-Christian values that were foundational to our judicial, civil, political, and educational insitutions, AND our family lives. These were the values that gave us the courage and conviction with which to face a brutal enemy whose sole objective was to deny us democratic freedoms. Thank you, Lori, for the powerful words from Winston Churchill.
Most Canadians don’t stand for anything, anymore, which makes them easy prey for the multi-culti, “we are the world” idiots who have invited immoderate, fanatical, violent, and dangerous extremists into our country–and, to add insult to injury, have handed them the keys to the kingdom (scandalously easy access to HRCs). Descendents of those whose fathers and grandfathers made sure Canada didn’t fall prey to the Nazis in WWII are now the hosts of parasites which are eating the apple from the inside out.
“Without a vision, the people perish.” Canada has become a nation without a vision, which has made us very easy to overcome. How tragic for our children and grandchildren.
It looks like the Muzzie men can’t control their “urges”, can’t bear to see a bit of female flesh, in some cases not even facial flesh.
Is this the reason they go out of control, off their sticks and beat their women if they dare show any independence?
Clicked on LHOTHP during a commercial break, while watching hockey.
CBC had the slick young Imam arguing with the Catholic priest over ‘territory’ – who would use the church/mosque hall and whether Christmas or Eid would prevail.
The Imam mocks the prient’s ‘dingaling sing-a-long’ of Christmas hymns and songs. The priest says, “don’t mess around with Christians” and the Imam fires back, “Yeah, will don’t fu…..ss, with Muslim’s.” Followed by, “oh, I guess that’s a bad choice of words.”
CBC writing at it’s finest, telling it like they believe it.
I signed the petition.
I saw one comment that was a bit “harsh” on homosexuality but isn’t that the whole point?
that we should be allowed to say certain “unpleasant ” things about certain people/group?
But then again that guy could be a multi-culti-leftist trying to sabotage the petition ?…
because if there are hundreds of decent comments, and one bad comment, we all know which one will be used by the left against us…
either way he is allowed to say what he said about homosexuality ( “a treatable disease” )
that is what free speech is.
How right you are, ‘been around the block, as usual.
We are currently reaping that sown by the Left of the spectrum through our education systems for over two decades.
Sadly, we stand for close to nothing, bend to all comers. We’ve allowed ourselves to be rendered impotent on all that this country was built upon and stood for. Trudeau and his Charter was the beginning of our undoing.
IMO, a Harper Conservative Majority government is needed to bring us back to what our forebears put in place. We need some respect to be given to our Prime Minister for starters.
Harper has already earned respect but is being challenged at every turn by desperate Liberals and their cohorts in the MSM.
It’s all desperation politics, desperate to get back on the gravy train they’ve become so accustomed to at our expense. Morals and ethics are not even on their wavelength.
If we continue to stand for all things to all people and stand for nothing, how long will it be before we mirror the hell holes stupid immigration policies have dumped on us?
“Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.” ~ Alexander Hamilton
Because the eager-to-appease West accepts the notion that some countries are “Islamic”, and Islamic nations have the right to impose their religion on the populace.
In short, Western nations are obliged to accommodate to Islam, but Islamic countries are not expected to accommodate non-muslims.
Posted by: Richard Ball at December 15, 2007 6:02 PM
Too true! One of my pet topics at the moment is Kosovo — going back to when our very own Maj-Gen Lewis McKenzie famously opined that “we bombed the wrong side”. (Maj-Gen. Lewis MacKenzie, now retired, commanded UN troops during the Bosnian civil war of 1992).
Walid makes exactly your point here: Be Wise on Kosovo
I read two of of Phares’ books: Future Jihad and The War of Ideas.
I hooted when I read Coren’s column in today’s Sun, and it was loud enough for my wife to come in from the next room and ask me what was up.
I just said, “Read this, and watch the Stalinist HRC go after Coren in the weeks to come”
And I’m sure that’ll happen, too.
The more journalists who drag this cult screaming and smouldering into the light of day, the better; the time has long since passed for the West to wake up.
mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm
Liz J, I totally agree about your thoughts on Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his government: A majority under their leadership will begin the turning around of our country from the wreck it’s become, “courtesy” of the Magus, Trudeau, and his damned Charter, to sane, common sense, ethical governance.
It takes a long time to turn an ocean liner around. First, it has to slow down, then it can change direction.
PMSH has begun to slow down Canada’s rapid descent into illiberal decadence and corruption, and needs all the support he can get, especially with the viscious and ravenous MSM attack dogs snarling at his heels.
Steve Janke has a good piece on the yellow journalism of the CBC over at Angry in the Great White North.
If our journalists are considered brave to write an article in Canada, how must a little 15 year old girl have felt, about fighting against her family?
I feel that we let her down. Canada let her down, we did not defend her, or her rights as a Canadian, and she was trying so hard to assert her own independence.
So the two articles are “brave”, but that little girl was the brave one, and she paid with her life. The very people who should be protecting her rights, the HRC, are supporting the radical elements by agreeing to hear the claim against MacLeans. If I was a Muslim seeing that, I sure wouldn’t have any faith in our system helping me if I needed it. Heck, a lot of average bloggers are being called in front of those tribunals, and they are being fined. If MacLeans, with the resources to fight this lose, how can a blogger, with no resources expect to win?
We need to get rid of those quasi-legal tribunals, they are doing more harm than good.
Mr. Mansur “gets it” …he is Canadian.
ET,I have to disagree with you,and one of the very few times that I have. Multi-culturalism is not necessary a bad thing,what is a bad thing is allowing an evil culture to fester amongst the peaceful. We should have Chinatowns,Mexican villages,and every other culture in our midst. Yes,they are separate,but if we enjoy each other ,why not. Islam is not multi-culturalism. Islam is a society,that puts the man at top.Woman are breeding stock,except for the occasional foray in front of the cameras to smile and say everything is OK. Islam probably doesn’t like your uppity atitude,you and your educated ways. I know they don’t like me.Multi-culturalism is a great thing,it is like having a banquet of tasty food,and my mouth is watering,but NO,NO,NO,don’t put that scoop of putrid islam on my plate.
Not to put too fine a point on it but Islam is not an ethnicity or a culture, its a religion and as such is protected under PET’s charter of rights.
It is not multiculturalism that is the problem. Hindus don’t whine about dietary concerns in public places, Chinese don’t whine about head gear in sports, Koreans don’t whine about special family laws for themselves, Christian Lebanese don’t whine about visible religious symbols, Hispanics don’t strangle their daughters to regain their honor/manhood, Italians are not burdened with subverting their host, Portuguese don’t believe they are a supremacist sect that is above the laws that are not their own, Buddhists don’t purposely draw welfare and feel it is a blow for their “religion”.
Only one group does these things and they are the only problem.
you want to sign a petition go ahead, i did. i also wrote directly to the pm. we all can do that and it would probably be more effective than a peitition.
I altogether agree with batb.
Like Esau, we’ve sold our heritage “for a mess of pottage”. Most Canadians stand for nothing—other than, it seems, making nice (that’s not the same as BEING nice) and turning a blind eye to any unpleasantness. So they quite easily fall for anything. (I believe it was G.K. Chesterton who coined that phrase.)
I was recently in a school where a bulletin board had a prominent display devoted to Eid, Diwali, and Kwanzaa (a festival recently made up by activist black Americans). Hanukkah and Christmas? No sign of them.
In other schools, where Hanukkah is prominent, religious symbols, including the menorah, are on display. What are the symbols for Christmas? Frosty, Christmas trees, Santa: not an Advent wreath, creche, shepherds, kings, angels, or star in sight.
Once, after the juxtaposition of an anti-Christian joke, told by a visiting speaker, at which everyone laughed, and the promotion of “anti-homophobia” literature and videos for the K-6 students in the school, I spoke up at the next staff meeting. I pointed out that our board’s “Equity” policy is highly selective: I identified myself as a Christian—now THAT’S coming out of the closet, these days!—and said it’s very clear that only certain groups are included in the policy, while other groups are conspicuously not, and open to ridicule—“We all laughed at a joke making fun of Christians”. I also said that I could take it and wasn’t about to fall apart, but that I didn’t appreciate either the put down or the board’s hypocrisy. One could have heard a pin drop. The principal made no comment and quickly moved on to the next item on the agenda.
Later, a teacher spoke to me privately. She was very polite, even deferential: “I’m not a Christian like you [maybe we should consider the negative connotations of so many of us turning our backs on our founding religion], but I and many others believe what you said and altogether agree. We’re tired of having to promote all kinds of cultures we don’t really agree with. We’re tired of letting people from certain groups off the hook. We’re tired of having to constantly watch what we say and having to look over our shoulders all the time.”
This treacherous double standard is now actually dangerous: trouble maker children, with attitude, usually from visible minorities, can and do use passing on lies and innuendo to administration in order to intimidate and cross check their teachers. Via samizdat, I personally know of a number of cases—the board, in typical gulag style, isolates the teacher and demands absolute silence—where, based on the lies of the most unreliable students, teachers have been summarily removed from their classes, charged—weeks later—and, with no due process to prove the allegations, have been disciplined, via forced leaves of absence/transfers, hefty fines (loss of a week’s pay), re-education classes, and letters of reprimand in their files. (Here. In Canada. I’m not making this up.) The consequences for the children? None. Talk about “chill”: knowing what power they wield with administration over their teachers, these duplicitous children swagger and preen. Teachers keep their heads down and their mouths shut. (BTW, teachers who are visible minority or homosexual appear to be exempt from this kind of harassment.)
Canada’s hypocritical multiculturalism policies are altogether unjust and dangerous. While they are used to jackboot responsible citizens from our founding cultures, they incubate tyrants and bullies in our schools.
“Wachet auf!” Awake, arise, Canadians! It’s about time we stopped the treachery in our midst by our addle-brained, arrogant elites and those who would exploit both their stupidity and duplicity. Let’s stop making nice and start making progress—thanks, Michael and Salim—at taking back our once strong and free country.
Chief Rabbi: Britain is losing its identity
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=FFPQDFHP1NPMZQFIQMFCFGGAVCBQYIV0?xml=/news/2007/12/16/nsacks116.xml
“Sir Jonathan Sacks said that the drive for a multicultural society had left Britain increasingly intolerant and that too many people were embarrassed about their history”.
Lookout,
Perhaps these bigots and the officials that endorse them should be named and their addresses published for all to see.
As long as these shadow people and bloks are allowed to remain in the dark, they will further their insidious plans.
Call them out, make their names and addresses public and watch the cowards shake and squirm.
Maybe you should consider starting a blog with this one purpose in mind? It seems vitally important.
BL@KBIRD, I agree totally. Keep posting.
irwin daisy: yes, your idea has a lot of merit. However, I and those who’d pass on information would be “outed” and our careers vastly compromised and/or shortened. The board I’m talking about is absolutely vicious: no dirty trick or skulduggery is beneath them.
The restructuring of the Ontario school boards, with administration out of the union—which is useless to teachers in the travails I mention—has separated administration and teachers into “us and them”: divide and conquer, with the teachers being in a very vulnerable position. We’re conquered all the time. The new dispensation has also given administration new powers over us. E.g., The teacher evaluations are often used as a political tool to punish “uppity” teachers. I know of many examples of even—or, in particular—exemplary teachers being given a low rating as pay back for not toeing the dumbed down, politically correct fiats of the board and its “Orcs”, e.g., VPs and principals, who, if they want to stay in the good graces of their masters, are required to be sycophants and toadies.
Outside of the union, which is full of administration wannabes, there are no avenues to crtitique a superior, even if one were brave or foolhardy enough to do so. The ethos of the board is: “We are wonderful. Problems? We have no problems.” There is a culture of silence, at least as far as teachers are concerned. The intimidation is pretty well complete.
If I should name names—and I could—the innocent teachers involved, not me, would be the vulnerable ones and, believe me, they’d pay the price. If my salary weren’t necessary, I’d be very interested in starting a blog to out the weasels in public school boards. They’re legion and deserve to be exposed for the tin pot dictators they are, all the while spouting the mantra of inclusiveness and tolerance.
Notice that in the Jordan Manners’ murder investigation, Julian Falconer, handpicked by the Toronto Board to investigate, has had two extensions and hasn’t yet reached a conclusion, except to say, “There are no villains in the piece.” Right. And just what the board wants to hear. Lots of students were asked for input. I’m sure that, even if asked, most teachers were afraid to say what they really think.
The public education systems in this country, besides doing a very poor job of educating the lowest common denominator—the pooh-bahs at the ministries and in their ivory tower offices are too busy coddling the miscreants’ feelings and appeasing their often appalling behaviour—are emboldening an underclass of ignorant, entitled thugs, who know they can use the system to jackboot the responsible adults who are abandoned in the trenches, e.g., the classrooms of this country.
It’s a bloody mess. In a gulag, which is not much of an exaggeration for the closed, repressive public education systems in Canada, it’s very hard to fight back. And isn’t that the very point of a gulag?
No, I disagree with those who put the blame only on Islam.
Certainly, Islam is seriously at fault, for trying to maintain a social/cultural mode, a 7th century tribal mode, that is not functional in a modern society.
Just as Sikhs who demand to wear a kirpan because it is ‘traditional’, ignoring that in modern society, such are not needed. Or arranging marriages, and so on.
But, as an immigrant nation, we are enabling these immigrant groups to maintain these dysfunctional cultures by promoting and even insisting on their isolation, on their actually maintaining these out-of-date beliefs and behaviour.
We have set up immigrants into isolate fiefdoms, political mini-states, rules by strict authoritarian leaders who control their membership. This control, this isolation of immigrants into political fiefdoms, means that they cannot critique themselves; they can’t change; they can’t examine whether their old ways are proper in our modern society.
We have, with multiculturalism, pushed all immigrants under the thumb of mini-states within our nation – and as we’ve seen in the Muslim world in Canada, these mini-states can be autocratic and totalitarian. People in those communities are afraid to think for themselves, afraid to adapt to Canadian values.
Coming to a new country ought to be a chance to free oneself of the dysfunctionalities of the old way. Multiculturalism not only prevents that, but actually enforces an even more rigid old way of life, as the leaders of these mini-nations try to maintain control.
…$5 that Michael Coren gets a Islamabad bounty on his head before Christmas…
ET
If we didn’t have multiculturalism but we still had Muslim immigration nothing at all would be different as regards Muslim behavior. To label all immigrant cultures as “dysfunctional” as you did is a little harsh. All lot of cultural habits may seem odd but they are not necessarily dysfunctional or have a sinister intent as does Islam. Islam is dysfuntional in it’s native habitat and anywhere it settles in the world. Islam is the only group to be seriously concerned with because they carry the religious burden of having to subdue and bring all non Muslims under their boot heel.
I agree that the touchy feely multi-culti crap needs curtailing but it will not make Muslims inclined to become Canadian in the least even if it is dropped.
blackbird – I didn’t label all immigrant groups as dysfunctional. I specifically said ‘these’ not ‘all’ and was referring to those tribal modes (Islam, Sikh, Hindu – which tend to operate within the ideology of tribalism rather than a civic sociopolitical mode).
I think that multiculturalism, as a policy, is dangerous because it rejects adaptation, it doesn’t enable these groups to modernize and adapt. Instead, it specifically allows them to retain these dysfunctional modes. It encourages them to retain them. AND, since it sets them up as isolate fiefdoms, with autocratic leaders, the members of these cultural groups are prevented by those leaders, from adapting to the larger Canadian society.
Islam in particular is in a difficult position, because it set up its social and political modes of behaviour within a religious infrastructure, moving this belief/behaviour outside of reason and change – and into dogma. That puts Islam into a bind – and has led to fascism, as it tries to prevent change. But, it has to change, and Muslims are, more and more, voicing that it must change (eg Salim Mansur, Tarek Fatah, Irshad Manji and others).
But we in the West have to reject fundamentalist Islam, we have to reject that WE should change and adapt to them; they must accept our basic axioms – freedom of speech and thought, primacy of the individual rather than the ethnic group; equality of men and women; a secular civic society. That’s basic. We must insist on this. Multiculturalism actually rejects our basic rights!
The New York Post has an article today in support of Mark Steyn re the CIC’s Human Rights (sic) case against him. Of course, as the article points out, the case against Steyn proves his point.
Such irony is lost on the Muslim aggressors and anal retentive Commission types.
Kyrie eleison.
Oh before you know it, Muslims will be able to pass sentencing on their own in Canada – the father would probably receive an award for strangling his daughter. If this wasn’t a one time thing, we would be able to state this father was an extremist or mentally ill, but it goes on wherever Muslims live….so let’s not kid ourselves.
I vaguely recall a fable that in the end asks, “Who will bell the cat”.
Who was it who decided that children were an option for the lazy and the stupid?
Who was it decided that the God of our fathers shall have no dominion over me?
Who was it decided we shall hide our lights under a bushel basket?
Which mental midget amongst us sits bestride the backs of giants and dares imagine, we are loftier than they?
We have sown the breeze and are now reaping the whirlwind should we be surprised?
Its not the Muslim’s fault. They are but the whet stone being used to hone us that we might actually stand for something and do something and be someone who matters.
Don’t try to reform them. We must try reform ourselves and having done so see how quickly they fall.
The Islamic faith is one that dwells in fear loathing and ignorance. We only strengthen it when we deal in the same.
Joe, though hidden, there is wisdom in your words. But, I fear, we live in an age so darkened by self-interest and apostasy that what you have to say will largely fall on deaf ears.
Think The Lord of the Rings: only a small Fellowship understood the danger. Nearly everyone else was oblivious. With due respect, your idea that “We must try [to] reform ourselves [yes, always a good idea] and having done so, see how quickly they [civilization’s enemies] fall”, though worthy, is not very likely.
Remember the Fellowship: though aware of the need for humility, in the end, some members had to fight. Pacifism is a fine idea, but it’s often impractical and usually gives the upper hand to the enemy. Kyrie eleison.
Sorry if I mis-led you lookout. I have never advocated a pacifist position. What I am saying is simply this as a society we need to “Take the plank out of our eye first so we can see clearly to remove the mote from our brother’s eye”. Right now all I read is futile gnashing of teeth instead of the steady strong answers we require to win this war. We need to realize that the reason the Muslims act the way they do is because that is the nature of the Muslim faith. Tinkering with the faith (expecting it to reform itself) is like washing a pig. The minute you finish washing it, it returns to its wallow. Basing our hopes for peace on “moderate Muslims” is like putting new wine into old wineskins. In very short order the ‘moderates’ will find reason to become ‘hardline’ and you are right back to where you started.
What you as a Christian and I as a Christian need to do is examine what it is we truly believe. Having done that examination build upon the foundation of that belief and take the required stand. How many times was St Paul shipwrecked, whipped, imprisoned and stoned before he was beheaded for turning his world upside down with his faith? Are we willing to do the same?