Y2Kyoto: Harper Fiddles While Plummeting Babies Burn

From the Goracle’s lips

“The planet has a fever, If your baby has a fever, you go to the doctor. If the doctor says you need to intervene here, you don’t say, `Well, I read a science fiction novel that told me it’s not a problem.’ If the crib’s on fire, you don’t speculate that the baby is flame retardant. You take action.” – Nobel Peace Prize Winner Al Gore

To the Chilliwack Progress ear;

It was with embarrassment and sadness that I watched the recent Commonwealth Summit, to see Canada standing alone as the only member unwilling to agree to binding targets in the curbing of climate change and its dire consequences for our children and, for many of us, our old age. Furthermore, our P.M. promotes “aspirational targets”, concocted by the Bush government, further tarnishing the Canadian image rather than becoming a global example.
Imagine our prime minister on a tall building and passively watching a young baby crawling towards the edge. When criticized the P.M. says, ‘Well, the laws of physics say that crawling off the edge will not certainly lead to the death of this baby’. However, the science community says it is almost certain. Would Canadians find his action acceptable? No, and they would be justifiably horrified, probably demanding legal action against him.
Turning this scenario to global warming, the P.M. has decided not to implement a ‘baby-saving’ tax shift away from wages and towards carbon-emission. Logically, this is equivalent to losing all of Canada’s newborns off a tall building. With the subsidies doled out to the oil lobby, it could be suggested that Mr. Harper is giving them a little surreptitious kick as well. Scientists now say there is little uncertainty with their understanding of climate change.
So why would we want to prosecute the P.M. for allowing the death of one infant, when many are unmoved with him allowing the suffering/death of them all?
The difference here is that in the case of the building, we have all seen things fall, so are familiar with the Law of Gravity. Carbon dioxide, however, is odourless, tasteless and invisible, so we have to rely on the knowledge of experts. Do we have a tradition in Canada of believing politicians over our scientists as these experts?
In university, I discovered the comforting fact that scientists question; they question the work of their peers relentlessly and mercilessly. They must be able to unequivocally show that their work is sound and reproducible. Results obtained under these circumstances are accepted by the scientific community, whether they like them or not. This is the closest the human mind comes to objectivity.
The babies are plummeting. There is just time to catch them (with a tax shift to carbon). As a nation, I’d like to see us either save this generation, or at least stop pretending we care about them.

(I’ll refrain from commenting on this, as the writer is university educated and I’m not.)

131 Replies to “Y2Kyoto: Harper Fiddles While Plummeting Babies Burn”

  1. “If the crib’s on fire, you don’t speculate that the baby is flame retardant. ”
    Al, sweety, Boobie…. first the audience needs the copious amount of reality altering drugs you are on to see these “burning cribs” where there are none. Ya gotta do better than that if you want a return ticket to this show. ( Sammy Maudlin)

  2. Wonderful. So now it is PMSH, as well as the Canadian military who are potential baby-murderer’s.
    Is there no depth that the moonbat/leftards will not sink to, in order to sell their bullsh1t AGW?
    The analogy used by that leftoid is about as insane as one could get.
    At last check, we are freezing our a$$es off in Ontario, the coldest winter in 20 yrs is upon us, record cold in South America, and the ice in Antarctica is growing.
    Where the f@#$ is the warming I was promised? Idiot, fear mongering, moonbat morons!

  3. “In university, I discovered the comforting fact that scientists question; they question the work of their peers relentlessly and mercilessly. They must be able to unequivocally show that their work is sound and reproducible. Results obtained under these circumstances are accepted by the scientific community, whether they like them or not. This is the closest the human mind comes to objectivity.”   Well no they aren’t actually. But why let that little fact get in the way of a good scare.

  4. “Imagine our prime minister on a tall building and passively watching a young baby crawling towards the edge. ”
    HARPER THE BABY CRUSHER…HARPER THE BABY KILLER! READ ALL ABOUT IT!!
    In the left coast dirty hippie tribune…first with surrealist news and events for todays trippy hippy wannabes.

  5. Awe come on Kate! Comment already! The author of that drivel may be university educated but that doesn’t mean he is intelligent. I’m not versity learned too but tinks it a good ting to make my taughts pubic out dere you know.
    “Sad and embarrassed” – well he/she should be. Babies crawling to the edge – Must be a Dijon lover. PMSH should stand tall. He made the right decision.

  6. probably written by the local Green Party wannbe candidate trying to get some free profile raising via the local rag.

  7. “If the crib’s on fire, you don’t speculate that the baby is flame retardant. You take action”
    Well, sure. But what’s this got to do with “coldest winter in 15 years”?

  8. Well no they aren’t actually. But why let that little fact get in the way of a good scare.
    Uh, yeah, they are, actually. The problem here isn’t that scientific consensus isn’t reliable, but that global warming is a politicized movement and not a scientific field.

  9. Isn’t Chilliwak the Capital of cannabis production in the west.
    Geez that writer may need advice about inhaling too deeply.
    Sounds whacked out to me.
    Also, I would be curious to know if writer had input into the Y2K computer frenzy as well.
    Remember how they were all going to crash and every airplane would fall from the sky and the monetary system was going to crash because the old computers would lose track of everything at the stroke of midnight and buying gold was the answer.
    Buying carbon credits is the new insanity, and the wacked out progressive in Chilliwak is likely leading that parade.
    And yes Kate, as a reader here, I would like very much if you gave that pompous ass a lesson in non-university common sense thinking about Kyoto.
    And hopefully a zinger to boot!!

  10. “The babies are plummeting. There is just time to catch them (with a tax shift to carbon)”
    The writer wants the life spans of our children to be “nasty, brutish and short”, as we return to the caves and the Chinese and Indians take our place at the table of jobs, wealth and longevity.
    What a load of peurile ignorant crap!
    (I’m allowed to say this because I am universtity educated).

  11. I have to be careful what I read and watch on tv because I get so enraged by the lies and scare mongering in the media concerning AGW that it’s bad for my blood pressure and ticker. Where the hell is the global warming?. Suzuki and Gore promised me and I want it.

  12. Actually, according to Kyoto logic, if the Canadian crib is on fire, what we need to do is to send $ to other developing countries whose cribs are on fire because they don’t need to put thier fires out just yet becasue their fires are just getting going. After all, there are at least ten times as many cribs buring in China and India as in Canada, and they are not worried. Give me a break!

  13. Citoyen Dion says: ““The church is wrong.”
    Where does this moonbat live? Is he in the world?
    Does Dion not know that the RC Church “forgave” Galileo in 1981. The Pope recanted on behalf of his church. It is now 2007.
    Dion lives in a delusional state of narcissism, of Egoism, and denial of reality.
    …-
    “Not until 1981 did the Roman Catholic Church officially forgive Galileo.”
    http://tinyurl.com/2sat4c

  14. Since when is a fever was fatal and supposed to last forever?
    Last time I had one, I didn’t rush like a lunatic to the doctor and demand that the doctor pay enormous sums of money to me because “it was his fault” I had the fever.

  15. Valerie Fabricant was also university educated was he not, if todays universitys are yardsticks for intelligence measurements I will stick with my education. If believing every nut that the pathetic MSM gives a podium and wails about golbal warming is part of a university education then the term useful idiots applies. Critical thinkers these people are not, they are as the little oriental called Steve Martins dog in the Jerk, Shitheads.

  16. To borrow the analogy:
    Harper is saying “Let’s pick the baby up so it doesn’t fall of off the ledge.”
    The Left-bots are saying, “Let’s build a big expensive fence but leave a huge gate open so the baby can fall through anyway.”
    ie: harper is saying the whole thing is useless if India and China don’t agree. All the commonwealth countries can pose and make broad plans but at the end of the day they’re like little yap dogs who got muzzled while the big dogs in the pack are howling at the moon.

  17. Today’s Globe & Mail poll:
    Do you agree that global warming is “an emergency unlike anything humankind has ever faced before?”
    Yes
    56%
    1653 votes
    No
    44%
    1293 votes

  18. The babies are plummeting?? Wonder if this moonbat is standing outside the abortuaries saving the babies that are “plummeting” inside?Funny how we can rip them from the womb but not allow them to crawl off buildings. Educated into imbecility.

  19. The helpless baby analogy is a strange one for a leftoid to use.
    …so if the mother agrees, and the baby isn’t quite out of womb, is it OK to yank it and then push it over the edge?

  20. I went to our town’s Christmas parade and tree lighting which was preceded by a prayer to God. The parade was long and the weather was FREEZING!
    Watching CTV, they were showing the weather predictions for Canada with a huge rectangle covering almost the ENTIRE country calling for below normal temperatures. I almost felt guilty after noticing that I live in the one tiny part of the country predicted to have normal temperatures. Almost…
    It should still be fun to watch the spin this winter.

  21. If you go to the Chilliwackjob paper to read the article,you can vote on the use of tazers. So far the ‘yes’ crowd is leading at 70%.

  22. I think if the writer was attempting to make a point, he might at least have used facts rather than metaphor.
    Obviously he has no facts.
    But then, who needs facts when you’ve got Al Gore. And babies. And, and, a puppy as well.
    ‘The baby and the puppy are crawling to the edge,’ is far more horrifiic.
    I think if the writer and others like him represent the future of mankind, we can only hope for their dire predictions to come true.

  23. right now there are babies crawling to the edge of lawns in Prince George as we speak— Hot Cross Hedy.

  24. quote: (I’ll refrain from commenting on this, as the writer is university educated and I’m not.)
    Well, as we all know, even a ‘versity edumakashin don’t necessarily insulate you against ingrained stupidity… Nor does the lack of said education preclude one from exercising what’s colloquially referred to as COMMON SENSE.
    I’ll take your opinion any day Kate.

  25. “The babies are plummeting”
    Somewhere this guy’s j-school prof is groaning; assuming he had one.
    As for his university experience in science, i first studied global warming in 1988. The prof told us in no uncertain terms that CO2 leads to higher temps. Then at a coffee break i heard him discussing the possibility it might not turn out that way….but after the break, he was right back to unquestioning certainty, testifyin’ the party line.

  26. oh maz2. You have managed to ENTIRELY miss the point. What Mr. Dion is saying, is at the time Galileo was being branded as a heretic for proposing ideas which the Church opposed. EVERYBODY in the know, knew that the sun revolved around the earth.
    Today however, it is the AGW church. EVERYBODY in the know, knows that the earth is warming due to human activity.
    It has nothing to do with whether Galileo hisself was pardoned by the church, and everything to do with how dissenters are treated by those who know all.
    The funny part is that Citoyen Dion is on the side of the Church (UN, AGW Hystericals) and attempting to crush the modern Galileos.

  27. Banachek – nice comment on the left and their commitment to the welfare of babies/abortions!
    Agree, irwin daisy, if the university-educated, aka brainwashed twit, had any capacity for thought, he’d use facts rather than metaphors. Is he aware that, factually, the AGW science is strongly questioned as ‘full of hot air’?
    Note what he advocates. He wants a reduction in income taxes and the tax base to be focused around ‘carbon emissions’. He’s a money-laundering brainwashed twit!
    The industries that employ workers will be taxed because they produce carbon emissions. There will be less tax income from employment, because he wants a reduction in income tax. Will the increase in industrial taxation offset the decrease in personal taxation?
    Oh, and the industries will naturally increase the costs of their products. So, the ‘saved’ income taxes will be spent by the worker, on the increased costs of those goods.
    This also means that there’ll be nothing left for the factories or for the govt to pay for technological changes to reduce those industrial emissions.
    And nothing left for research to develop new forms of energy.
    That’s what brainwashing in a university can do to you. Or, it might just be that he’s naturally stupid.

  28. On the bright side, Futurama is now resurrected and Algore did some voiceovers (in the year 3000 20th century celebrities are preserved in glass jars and they talk). Expect Groening and Cohen to take more potshots in this new show.

  29. Exactly ! Dion is so stupid, he doesn’t realize that he among those who are “attempting to crush the modern Galileos.”.

  30. Bartinsky at December 1, 2007 10:29 AM referred to Steve Martin and Shithead
    Uh-oh, you’d better watch what you post eh. I’m a BIG Steve Martin fan, so if you start that up I’ll escalate with the quotes.
    Here’s one: “The greatest thing you can do is surprise yourself.”

  31. “They must be able to unequivocally show that their work is sound and reproducible.”
    Where has their work been reproducible? The argument that this cycle of global warming is unnatural and irreversible rests solely on computer modeling. And the fact is that most of the IPCC’s predictions that could be measured have been wildly overstated.
    Some of these overstatements are due to a cooling trend since 1998 — which won’t be helped by predictions that this winter will be Canada’s coldest in 15 years.

  32. As far as I can tell the “environmentalist’s” philosphy seems to be:
    Save the Earth – kill yourself

  33. What if you spent all your money padding your house with mattresses to prevent accidental injuries only to find out you don’t have enough money left to buy food. Resources are always scarce and it is always best to determine where is the best place to deploy them. Do we spend multi billions to accomplish nothing or do we deploy the money were it will do some good. Harper has it right.

  34. I would like to know what so-called ‘university’ this half-wit belongs to so I can avoid sending my kids there.
    Like all failed political cult-based science projects, Kyoto collapses under even the briefest of examinations. Fortunately the grievance crowd is loosing steam and will ultimately fail in their attempts to perpetuate this endless disaster montage.

  35. Saw a story this morning where Florida resort operators are suing a meteorologist for predicting Florida would be besieged by an enormous amount of hurricane activity.
    Based on that obviously erroneous information, the suit allleeges, tourists were afraid to book vacations in Florida.
    Run away! Run away! The sky is falling!

  36. ‘I fully understand that Kyoto, as a brand if you will, has been demonized’
    FFS. If useful idiots do not read this from the gorical himself and do not realize that he is a snake oil salesman, nothing will convince them.

  37. What…no kittens?
    There HAVE to be kittens! Preferably those cute little white ones in the toilet paper commercial.
    Speaking of….

  38. Figuratively, re the so-called critical thinking skills and regard for truth–what’s THAT?–of our young people, the sky IS falling.
    Re a critical mass of them: their sense of entitlement is huge, while I believe their brains are growing smaller and more self-referential by the minute.
    I work daily with these “live for the moment, all-me-all-the-time, plugged in” kids and, over the past nearly four decades, have seen a precipitous decline in both their willingness and ability to entertain (pun unintended!) any thought outside their own minuscule orbit. As I’ve said many times, the educational establishment, made up of self-referential, immature (read, leftie) idiots, encourages the most egregious non-thinking and selfishness. The inmates run the asylum. Scary.
    I doubt that the writer of this garbage has the capacity to accept the criticisms here: hey, “we get to do what we want and think what we want, and don’t have to listen to YOU. So there!”
    Kyrie eleison. (And who the hell is He?)

  39. “The babies are plummeting. There is just time to catch them (with a tax shift to carbon). As a nation, I’d like to see us either save this generation, or at least stop pretending we care about them.”
    But Mr. Bachelor of Arts, I never did pretend to care about your metaphorical plummeting babies and never will.
    Real babies are dying by the thousand in leftist (you) supported abortion mills.
    Climate change occurs every season, sometimes more than other times and that will continue no matter how many imaginary babies fall off your imaginary building and no matter how much money Al Gorpone and his gang try to steal from us.
    God Bless the commons sense Stephen Harper.
    And by the way, you write like a ninth grader.

  40. [quote]I would be curious to know if writer had input into the Y2K computer frenzy as well.[/quote]
    Joe, that had a hidden agenda supported by those with worthless doctorates, but I don’t think it was driven by BIG oil Profits. Good thinking though.
    [quote] Carbon dioxide, however, is odourless, tasteless and invisible, so we have to rely on the knowledge of experts. [/quote]
    That would also be true of “Fairy Farts” but GOOD science would need to prove the existence of fairies to 99.99999% before we invested in Collection technology. The “Command & Control” Powers of a UN coalition would be focused on locating & controlling the Fairies.
    BIG OIL PROFIT CAPS work for me!

  41. The Bali Communiqué
    This communiqué comes from the business leaders of over 150 global companies [those stalwarts of the Chicken Little, lefty, Y2Kyoto community]. It is being issued in advance of the United Nations Climate Change Conference 2007, taking place from December 3 to 14 in Bali, Indonesia.
    The scientific evidence is now overwhelming. Climate change presents very serious global social, environmental and economic risks and it demands an urgent global response.
    As business leaders, it is our belief that the benefits of strong, early action on climate change outweigh the costs of not acting:
    * The economic and geopolitical costs of unabated climate change could be very severe and globally disruptive. All countries and economies will be affected, but it will be the poorest countries that will suffer earliest and the most
    * The costs of action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in order to avoid the worst impacts of climate change are manageable, especially if guided by a common international vision
    * Each year we delay action to control global emissions increases the risk of unavoidable consequences that will likely necessitate even steeper reductions in the future, causing potentially greater economic, environmental and social disruption
    * The shift to a low-carbon economy will create significant business opportunities. New markets for low carbon technologies and products, worth billions of dollars, will be created if the world acts on the scale required
    In summary, we believe that tackling climate change is the pro-growth strategy. Ignoring it will ultimately undermine economic growth.
    It is our view that a sufficiently ambitious, international and comprehensive legally-binding United Nations agreement to reduce greenhouse gas emissions will provide business with the certainty it needs to scale up global investment in low-carbon technologies. We believe that an enhanced and extended carbon market needs to be part of this framework as it offers the necessary flexibility, allows for a cost-effective transition and provides financial support to developing countries.
    In order to avoid dangerous climate change, the overall targets for emissions reduction must be guided primarily by science. Even an immediate peaking in global emissions would require a subsequent reduction of at least 50% by 2050, according to the Fourth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel of Climate Change, and the later the peak in emissions, the greater the required reduction. All countries will need to play their part but we recognise that the greatest effort must be made by those countries that have already industrialised.
    At the United Nations Climate Change Conference in December in Bali, Indonesia, countries will have an opportunity to agree a work-plan of comprehensive negotiations to ensure such an agreement can be signed in Copenhagen in 2009, to come into force post 2012.
    We urge world leaders to seize this window of opportunity.
    In return, we pledge to engage positively with governments to help develop the policies and measures that are needed internationally and nationally for the business sector to contribute effectively to building a low carbon economy.
    Signatories

  42. This lunatic must have his BA in Ethnic Puppetry. If this is what we are getting for our education dollar, then we might just as well shut down the universities.

  43. Since I -am- university educated, I feel safe in commenting that the author seems to be one of those special kinds of idiot that only years of university education can produce. See Kate’s previous post on the American Anthropological Society’s annual meeting for another example.
    In their search for something new to whine about, these Ivory Tower leftists have long since used up all the -real- injustices in the world, and have even used up all the reasonable, believable manufactured ones. Hence, these days they have to make up unreasonable, non-believable rubbish like this.
    Tax cut please. Start with liberal arts programs at universities. We could do with a few less PoMo relativist wankers in this country.

  44. And what of the fate of these plummeting babies? Many will land in forests and survive due to the warmer temperatures. They will become feral and fussy, a roving band of savage babies in need of changing.
    I fear this global warming future. Indeed, the living will envy the dead.

  45. “As business leaders, it is our belief that the benefits of strong, early action on climate change outweigh the costs of not acting:”
    Yes … act early, really early, so early that we can get the tax reforms and the cash moving before it becomes apparent the there is no global warming and the GHG thing is a scam.
    I am hoping the the reluctance of people to actually open their wallets for anything they can’t take home in a box or bag, will prevail and this bull crap will not happen.
    And I am very curious, I have never met anyone who expressed any concern, knowledge of, or opinion on any of the often mentioned poorest nations. So like let’s stop pretending that matters.

  46. One last items before I go back to bed with a book
    … The numerous corporate signatories linked on Sally’s comment above, are merely hedging their bets at the very least so as not to piss off their climate change believer customers.
    At the very worst are share holders in the carbon credit companies that will care for our stolen money in an oh-so caring way after the fees are extracted.

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