PM Harper today in his press
conference:
“We have tried to listen and tried to adapt our program where it’s
realistic to do so and where it’s responsible to do so to address the
demands of the opposition,” he said.“But there is a ‘fish or cut bait’ on this. You can’t pass the
throne speech one day and the next day say, ‘Well, we didn’t actually
mean to do it or we didn’t mean to give you a mandate.’ We will take
it as a mandate and we will take it as an ongoing question of
confidence to get those things done.”
Meanwhile:
Cheers,
lance
“Dat his not fare, we ‘ave priorities”-Borat Dion
I love it when Cherniak’s stomach hurts. What a forehead vein he is.
Re Harper … he can’t lose either way. I have stated this before … if the liberals vote for his mandate in fear of an election they will lose, then Harper gets to move his agenda forward with the blessings of parliament.
If they vote it how and we go the polls, Dion and the Liberals get scorched, the NDP pick up a few, the Bloc gets wounded in Quebec and harper will either get his majority or at least strengthen his position as Prime Minister with several more seats.
This is a feel good time for conservatives and an Excedrin head ache for the Liberals.
That little hemorrhoid who leads the liberals is all preparation and no H. His days are numbered.
Bwaaaaaahaaaahaaa
Besides all the big public service unions and Buzz Hargrove, who in their right mind supports these Liberals? They’re a joke.
“Besides all the big public service unions and Buzz Hargrove, who in their right mind supports these Liberals? They’re a joke.”
31% of Canadians, apparently. Go figure.
I can’t imagine that the 31% number would really fly in an election. Although, I don’t submit to the daily garbage from CTV and CBC, and most do. Maybe if that’s your reality….maybe.
Maybe yes, maybe no, I don’t know
Strange Brew
Stephen Harper is too damn sensible, he says what he means and means what he says, in plain old ordinary everyday English. Dion et al have a really hard time with that.
31% of Canadians view themselves as being liberal which doesn’t mean that they will vote Liberal. With the libs inability to organize a one man race to the outhouse I don’t hold much hope for them. Without that loan cough cough(donation) from Power Corp things in lib land would be bleak indeed. Don’t believe me, just ask the totally unwound Jason.
What the 31% Liberal support indicates, simply, is that those people are beholden to government income of some kind. That has always been the Liberal strategy….make a certain percentage of the voting public dependent on you (with money taken from taxpayers) and you can count on their support. That is the real reason behind scams like multiculturalism, etc. You simply fund those groups and the power brokers will bring in the votes from that group. Pretty simple, really.
Any guesses at the number of Liberal MP’s that will vote against the Throne Speech in hopes of taking down the gov’t, causing an election, having Dion trashed, just so they can bring in a new leader ???
My parents vote for the Liberals because while Trudeau was in power, my Dad got a good government job. Everything about my parents way of thinking is Conservative, but they still vote Liberal. Well, until now, they really like PM Harper, and can’t stand Dion.
En guard Monsieur Dion, Layton, Duceppe!
The Three Mouseketeers.
A pretty deft gauntlet toss. Let’s see if Dion picks it up!
Sound the trumpets. Let the joust begin!
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP
Commander in Chief
Frankenstein Battalion
2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden (Rheinisches) Nr.7
(Saarbrucken)
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
If 31% of Canadians would vote Liberal, then 10% of Canadians would vote Green. Was that how it played out in the Quebec byelections?
No.
the libs are broke and can’t afford an election. I say call their bluff.
This is too much fun.If you read Cherniak’s meltdown,you will notice that twice he explains what the liberal party is all about. Find members,raise money,policy,and organize to win. Or as I see it ,power,power,people and then power again. He also writes that this fiasco could have been avoided if Carrol would have just been given a Dingwall handshake,liberalese for shut up and we will take care of you. Is it any wonder that “the little guy from shawinigan” is in intensive care?
Consider this storm cloud sheeple; According to this poll 67 percent of respondents reject Canada’s New Government ™ policies. If you eliminate the spasmodic plebes from the survey, the opposition approaches unanimity.
Consider this storm cloud sheeple; According to this poll 67 percent of respondents reject Canada’s New Government ™ policies. If you eliminate the spasmodic plebes from the survey, the opposition approaches unanimity.
In the land of the SFIs, the one-eyed Jason is king.
Harper will lead,and this “sheeple” will gladly climb out of thirteen years of shit to stand next to him.
Never thought of you as a poet wallyj, but that’s downright poetic. lol
Pat
Sheeple, eh? That is why conservative voters in Ontario are blindly following Tory and his bull@#$% school issue, right? Wrong! That is why westerners never questioned the “Quebec is a nation” crap, right? Wrong! That is why all conservatives blindly followed Kim Campbell, and never established the Reform Party, right? Wrong! So, go f@#$ yourself moonbat, and go blindly follow your librano criminal thief masters. IDIOT!
One other thing. IMHO, the fundamental difference between a conservative voter and a liberal voter, is that the conservative will sacrifice power to maintain their principles and dignity. Whereby the average liberal voter will sacrifice all dignity just to hang on to their government job/grant/contract/handout/bursary…..well, you get the point.
Say, isn’t that jason gettin’ all manly and profane! I think he’s auditioning for the role of Stanley Kowalski in a local production of Street Car.
Big Bear Market in Liberaland. First leg down was vicious, Chretien to Martin. Tiny bounce, now in the ferocious heart of the collapse with Dion. The good news for the Liberals is there will be one more bounce before the final decline. What’s funny is that bounce could be from much lower levels than where we are today.
Hilarious. Would not be surprised if they were reduced to 20 seats in the next election. Not predicting, just wouldn’t be surprised.
“opposition approaches unanimity.”
So, according to shortsalami, everybody in Canada rejects the Conservatives. But the people who support them are sheeple? Liberal logic at its best.
And does “spasmodic plebes” mean anything to anyone, or is this just some pathetic attempt at cleverness?
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kingstonlad, i agree with you about liberals who will swallow any humiliation and vote the party line.i know people who would vote liberal even if the candidate shit on their rug.
Citoyen Dion: Hung well.
By his own hand. …-
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‘Bout time….listening to Dijon prattle on oll summer about what he will do to the government was akin to listening to a dung beetle brag about moving the sears tower. Time to dump or get off the pot Borat.
I can see Citoyen Dijon is more adbvanced in his dithering than martin was…and I’m sure he’s scared crapless about going to the polls this fall.
Once the sheeple know Dion, though they won’t vote for him, though they will trust him, or his caricature, I’m not sure. Look for PQ byelections as proof, where sheeple voted Bloc because they were mad at Tories over Afghanistan.
They’re truly losing their minds, their Chretien inane goof-spin comments don’t work with their rookynerd leader, yet to be bloodied in general election. Stockwell Day will have had it easy compared to Dion.
Polls don’t count between elections in this land of sleep-in-yo-shoes feebleness…the average schmock is so detached from his often undeserved take-for-granted-democracy that he does not know what’s going on 98% of the time with his elected representatives…”Too boring”…”They’re all the same”.
If we go to the polls this fall, I predict a weak majority or at least a much stronger minority. This will be delivered in a big part by Quebec.
It is to note that the election might be similar to the current shameful Ontario 1 issue campaign.
The MSM will concentrate on Harper’s projected extention of Afghan mission and/or Climate change bill IF and I say IF he (Harper) or one or more of his team does not fumble on something said like John Tory’s mistake.
It is to note that right now Quebec has the most Defense enrollment of the nation. I often watch french news from Qc and there is a lot of Afghan coverage showing french soldiers in combat…Me thinks Qc (Outside Montreal) is finally joining the ROC and acknowleging it has international responsabilities.
Stephen Harper might go down in history as the greatest Prime Minister Canada ever had.
His throne speech ultimatum of yesterday is simply brilliant. The Bobby Fisher of Canadian politics indeed.
Did somebody actually call conservatives sheeple?
Understand this turd breath lefty trolls!
“Sheeple” follow their own tails and live in constant fear of being singled out for slaughter… their only hope is that the master does no more than shear their fleece and are quite happy to carry on with their faces stuck in the ass of their kindred …until their time is up. The behaviour and herd mentality of your kind fits that to a Tee …
You are the ones who willingly kept a pack of thieves and incompetents in charge of our nations business and continue to advocate for these parasites and fools.
You are all out of your depth in the real world and are about to see the long overdue mopping up of this nations floors with the political carcases of that pack of jackals the LPC.
“This means that some people with no real knowledge of politics whatsoever write their opinions every day online.”
Jason sums himself up perfectly.
As has been said, the reason the Liberals held on to power was because they set up a voting population dependent on governement funding: huge bureaucracies, teachers, govt employees, health care, welfare, makework projects in the Maritimes and elsewhere, special interest grants (SOW, Court Challenges), universities, research grants – and – all immigrants ensnared within the Liberal policies of multiculturalism.
These are the people who vote Liberal. And this sector of the population is about 31% and even higher. The Liberal taxation scale and governing tactics of govt dependency effectively prevented Canadians from developing an investor class of entrepreneurs, leaving the devt of big industries up to and dependent on the federal govt (aircraft and dairy in QC, softwood in BC, auto in Ontario); leaving grain farmers dependent on the CWB and so on.
The Liberals have never had any policies. None. None. None. All they had was a strategy of controlling the vote by making the majority of the electorate dependent on govt funding for their jobs.
Now, this dependency is melting away and the economy is moving out of its 1950-1990 dependency on the govt and, therefore, out of the grasp of the Liberals. Those who were and are still govt dependent – remain Liberal. But, Canadians are shaking off this dependency…And that leaves the Liberals, with no policies to offer the electorate – with nothing.
It is about the numbers.
PM Harper sees the Liberals down and is kicking them while he has the opportunity.
Harper knows the polling numbers. Not the spin numbers, but the real ones.
Harper sees two of his opponents dithering like Martin and steps up as a leader. Firm, decisive and clear as to what he will do.
The throne speech will be Conservative election promise. Lower taxes, infrastructure building, moderate environment plans and solid support for the Canadian military mission in Afghanistan and in general.
enough
I saw one of the usual media hacks concede that Harpers plan on the environment had won. After all the vitriol spewed by the left, all the pronouncements that the environment would be the defining issue it has all proved for naught.
May is layed up with her hip replacement and all but disappeared. Green Dion is shown to be nothing but a pompuos fool. Layton is, well, Taliban Jack.
Afghanistan was to be another Conservative killer. The van doos apparently can fight and have not been killed in great numbers. Taliban Jack wants to continue negotiating but the Taliban refuse to. The country of Afghanistan has asked for an apology from the NDP and not a peep has been spoken on that subject since. Let us not forget Peter Mansbridge (Peter Mansbridge!) laying the smackdown on Dion because he can’t prioritize a visit to Afghanistan.
All we need is PM Harper to be just a little bit more underestimated for a short while longer. Good time, good times.
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“dean spencer said… Say, isn’t that jason gettin’ all manly
and profane!”
just more media-savvy consulting from the bilbo baggins
of the canadian political blogosphere.
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You just got to love the upcoming Throne speech in which an ultimatum has been delivered yesterday:
Reader’s Digest version:
“You either approve the full content of the Throne Speech and these as ongoing confidence items thus let us govern like we have a majority until Oct 2009 or go into an election and risk TRUE governing majority until Fall 2011”
Go for the jugular…Message delivered right in enemy territory too: The Parlementary press gallery: Double Whammy!!!
“One other thing. IMHO, the fundamental difference between a conservative voter and a liberal voter, is that the conservative will sacrifice power to maintain their principles and dignity. Whereby the average liberal voter will sacrifice all dignity just to hang on to their government…”
Or a Conservative voter will sit meekly by as their hand picked PM slowly but surely slides further to the center, backtracks on numerous promises, and introduces big spending budgets that make Liberals blush. Of course, a few nods to the base (crime, judges, senate) keeps them all in line. Yet still he can only get 33% of Canadians behind him when the Liberals and BQ are self-destructing……and now he tries to tell the other parties in a MINORITY government situation that they should just let him govern as if he had a majority… Is that part of your fundamental difference too?
This poll only represents the Liberal brand. Not Dion. When the election comes and the creepy, fay French socialist is put under the spotlight, watch for the meltdown.
sean – just out of curiousity, what does ‘hand picked PM’ imply? I know you mean it as an insult, but for the life of me, I can’t see what you mean by it. Please explain.
It’s quite a feat, for Harper to get his agendas across, despite not merely having a minority govt, but, having the opposition ALL leftist socialists.
And – having the Senate moving out of its constitutional role as a ‘cooling off reflection’ and into an activist role as actually making policies – by their rewriting the Accountability Act, by their refusing to allow elected Senate etc, etc.
And – having the judiciary primarily Liberal appointed leftists who consider that all crime is due to their being not enough basketball courts and welfare – rather than acknowledging that crime is a very lucrative economic choice of many people (including the money laundering Liberals).
And – having the civil service primarily leftist Liberals. And so on.
Your claim that he has broken promises is stupid. Why? Because no leader can govern as a dictator, operating according to the Red Book of Rules, and essentially saying – The Rules State This – and even though the reality has changed – you people may not behave differently. That’s called totalitarianism. Operating according to a Formal Set of Rules which can’t be changed.
But a democratic leader MUST adapt to changing contextual realities. So, if more banks etc move into Income Trusts to avoid paying taxes – which would mean that individual income taxes would have to rise to make up for the shortfall – a responsible leader HAS to suffer the irateness of people like you – and break his promise. Why? Because the contextual reality has changed. And a leader acknowledges that – he doesn’t govern by the Red Book of Unchangeable Rules.
Try again, sean.
Sean:
Tough to reclaim the middle ground if one of the Liberal strategies is call our Prime Minister by the improper title of President.
What’s next? You’re going to tell us National Socialism is a right-wing philosophy?
Marxists are so predicable that it’s getting boring.
It’s on the verge of being laughable. The next step is irrelevance.
I’m still waiting for some positive alternative, something you commies and demonstrate actually works better than what Harper is proposing.
You can try to rip down a winner and even if you succeed (which is doubtful), that does not make you a winner. You’d still be a loser .. until you can articulate your alternative vision.
“Besides all the big public service unions and Buzz Hargrove, who in their right mind supports these Liberals? They’re a joke.”
“31% of Canadians, apparently. Go figure.”
Isn’t that about the percentage of the population currently working for some level of government???
“…And that leaves the Liberals, with no policies to offer the electorate – with nothing.”
Alternatively if you would like to peruse the inspiring conservative policies that have enraptured an entire third of the electorate you should visit http://www.rnc.org
Consider this sheeple- the entire conservative tax policy is not comprehensive, but rather creates those dreaded dependant constituencies that ET laments.
Here is a particular deceptive conservative policy belied by the recently announced record federal budget surplus; When the CONservatives lowered the GST and cancelled the reduction in the lowest marginal tax rate enacted by the previous Liberal government, they effectively raised the taxes of the majority of Canadians. Perhaps you are one of those “average” Canadians that spend approximately $1300 per month on GST eligible goods and services, if not; you are probably paying more federal taxes.
I thought this flock opposed paying more taxes.
Balonie Joe … your analysis is as shallow as your political bias is profound.
Go away and actually learn something about economics and the facts of our economy as it stands to day and over the last 50 years.
If you do this you will/should/might be able to offer an intelligent observation.
Until then spare us your spittle as you gargle from the fountain of knowledge.
I said it last week, and it was fun so I’ll say it again.
Hey Liberals….remember this?
Tous ensemble, tous ensemble.
What, were you all drunk?…never mind…morons.
I think I just heard the braying of sheeple.
good god, joebaloni – you really don’t understand economics. Lowering the GST means less money ‘out’ of pocket to the govt for the low income people. They already aren’t paying much in income tax!
Yes, I have looked at the policies of the CPC; they are excellent. Now, if you want to debate something, the strategy is, to focus on the issues. Your false tactic of ‘look at the CPC’ ignores that the Liberal Party has NO policies.
The CPC, on the other hand, is quite clear with its policies – which include decentralization, reduction of federal govt to the basics (defense, foreign, fiscal, communications)and the rest up to the provinces. It includes a reformed Senate; it includes a Clean Air act which includes pollution and is not just a lot of ‘hot air’ about emotional Kyotoism. It includes effective tactics to deal with crime – and not the Liberal posturing of ‘poverty as root cause of crime (bull) and a ‘gun registry’. It includes valid military involvement – and not just ‘we’ll send them to Afghanistan so that we won’t go to Iraq and upset our and Chirac’s oil buddies’.
Joe, insulting people by namecalling, rather than providing effective data-based arguments is something 8 year old kids do. Why are you doing it?
First: Thanks ET! for your 2:40 reply.
Second: I was a kid through the Trudeau years. My first and only experience with him, was a town hall meeting, in Kelowna. I was pushed out of the was by his security team, will never forget that. This was the same time he gave the middle finger salute to the people of BC. This left a long last bitter taste for me towards the Liberals. After watching the previous 13 years of Jean and Paul embarrass Canada, lie, steal from the people of this country, the Liberals are finally getting their just reward.
PM Harper has sat back quietly going about his job of running the country, while the opposition parties are falling apart. His speech at the UN and the question period with reporters was brillant. Yesterday, with his appearance at the press gallery, it is obvious that he is ready to play hardball. It has been so long since we have had a Prime Minister that is intelligent, well spoken and is fast becoming a master at this game.
The gloves are off, lets see if Dion is up for the challenge.
By the way PM Harper has just announced the new Anti drug plan (CTV news)
What a awesome speaker. Go get’em Prime Minister Harper!
kingstonlad, i agree with you about liberals who will swallow any humiliation and vote the party line.i know people who would vote liberal even if the candidate shit on their rug.
Posted by: jmorrison at October 4, 2007 8:28 AM
So perfectly concise and perfectly accurate. Best laugh I have had in weeks, Jmorrison.