And who’s kidding whom? The University of Toronto would be first in the lineup behind them.
More – “What is moral blindness but the inability to tell right from wrong, friend from enemy, love from hate? And what is moral deafness but a man who can hear words and never understand their meaning?”
I didn’t say ‘totalitarian and fascism’, Self-Love. So, I’m not confusing the two. What a wierd comment. Equally wierd is your claim that I was referring to ‘Leninist class struggle’. I never said a word about that.
Hitler was, in my opinion – and contrary to your opinion, a leftist. His view of the state as supreme, the people as a collectivism, the individual as irrelevant – are all leftist axioms. The role of emotion and propaganda – leftist value. The notion of a ‘utopia’ is a leftist value. Your insertion of ‘class struggle’ as a requirement of ‘leftist’ ideology is, in my view, totally and completely invalid.
Both fascism and socialism/communism are ‘leftist’ ideologies.
The fact that you don’t agree – is your problem. I’m not convinced by your words, and your opinion of me as ‘silly’ is irrelevant.
Your original final paragraph was too silly to merit a response. Your current final paragraph is empty of rational content and emotionally highly manipulative.
Would you have refused to fight in WWII because the fighting against Hitler’s fascism was taking place in Europe and not here? Do you know and understand the ‘root causes’ of Islamic fascism? Do you know that the US has moved this fascism back into the ME – where it belongs, and where it must be fought out by the peoples of the ME?
And a hierarchical and repressive state apparatus is most certainly, a leftist value. Remember, the individual has no existence in the Clouds of the Left.
“Hitler was, in my opinion – and contrary to your opinion, a leftist. ”
I’m glad to see you at least qualified yourself by stating that it was your ‘opinion’. It should be added, that you are in a minority in that respect.
“Hitler was, in my opinion – and contrary to your opinion, a leftist. His view of the state as supreme, the people as a collectivism, the individual as irrelevant – are all leftist axioms. The role of emotion and propaganda – leftist value.”
Martin Luther King regarded the state as supreme? Tommy Douglas regarded the state as supreme? They both regarded the individual as irrelevant. Nelson Mandela ruled by propaganda? What about the jesuits working for the poor who were murdered by death squads in Latin America?
Are you suggesting that individuals on the left who work for civil rights, public healthcare, women rights, gay rights, minority rights and so forth are working in favour of a “hierarchical and repressive state apparatus”? Can you please provide some supporting documentation, with quotes? I’d like to see what you come up with.
You don’t sound very well read, ET. It sounds to me like you haven’t read anything outside of right-wing blogs, and the few authors they recommend. You lack a fundamental understanding of political terminology. Perhaps you ought to read a little more thoroughly. I realize that my opinion doesn’t matter to you, but if you want to be taken seriously by individuals other than the 5 or 6 people who read this blog, you may want enhance your understanding of the world a little bit.
My last paragraph was a valid question. The fact that you claimed you didn’t have to answer it, but then gave an, albeit inarticulate and illogical, attempt, is proof that the right-wing narrative on Islamic terrorism is regarded as a farce by those who claim to believe it.
self-lover – the reason that I always insert the phrase ‘in my opinion’ is because I speak only for myself. I do not intend to have my words taken as a ‘universal truth’. Ever heard of the term ‘hubris’?
Actually, no, my view that Hitler was a leftist is not a minority opinion. Among scholars.
I don’t consider that Martin Luther King regarded the individual as irrelevant. Douglas certainly did – and he was a socialist (leftist). Nelson Mandela – a leftist? That’s your opinion. The Jesuits – leftists?
Yes, I think that individuals on the left are indeed working and assisting a hierarchical and repressive state apparatus. I am guessing that you are involved in one of these fields. I’d suggest that you take a look at Karl Popper’s well-known ‘The Open Society and its Enemies’ for a thorough examination of the socialist mode of society. You might also want to take a look at F. Hayek’s also well-known ‘Road to Serfdom’. No, I’m not going to provide quotes; Popper’s two volumes are extensive; the intro and ch 10 of book one are very good.
I am indeed desolate that you consider me an ill-read, uneducated ignoramus. What can I do? Ahh well.
Double eew. Stop feeding that thing you guys, its liable to breed.
Hitler and Stalin had a pact to join forces. The only reason this could possibly work is because their collective foundations, aims, political apparatus and propoganda were similar.
Hitler removed (murdered) all dissenters on a racial, social, political and religious basis, as did Stalin.
The agreement was broken, but the similarities and consequences remained.
Both represent the culmination of socialism.
Sure, Hitler made overtures to the west, especially England, but he was rejected. Why? Because of our pact with individualism, freedom and democracy.
Take away all reason, logic and history. Add a heaping helping of emotion, self-righteousness, arrogance and utopianism. Let stew to homicidal determination. And there you have a leftist.
Today KOS, the voice of the democratic party and leftists everywhere, published a poll where 45% would prefer Ahmadinejad as the president of the US versus Bush. This the monster who would create another Jewish holocaust, who regularly murders his own civilian dissenters, gays and adultresses and who promotes death to all infidels.
I think this more than proves the above description of a leftist and their spiritual attachment to both Hitler and Stalin.