“Now I’m torqued at this guy”

A Regina body shop owner survives an encounter with a crazed gunman – he fought back;

Ryan Murray allegedly entered an auto body shop, carrying a gun, and demanding the keys to a vehicle to a vehicle owned by the business. A few moments later, a shot was fired in the manager’s office. Police say employees at the business were able to restrain the gunman before officers arrived.
One person in the shop was injured after being hit by the weapon.
Ryan Murray now faces eight charges including attempted murder. The rifle he was carrying was seized by police, and found to have several rounds of ammunition.

He had his eyes on the Hummer in the parking lot. The punchline;

The accused had been released on bail the day before by Provincial Judge Kenn Bellrose. He was facing several charges in connection with an alleged car-jacking in Regina June 9th, and had spent most of the past month undergoing a psychiatric assessment in North Battleford. Prosecutors had strongly opposed his release, arguing that he was a danger to the public.

Via the Murray Wood show, live blogging an interview with the owner of Provincial Auto Body.. Lorie Jalinski (sp?) came back after coffee with his guys, and was on the phone with a customer and in walks a guy hollering, screaming..
“he had a camoflauge gun case, pulls a shotgun out” and screams “I need the key for the hummer… give me the m**f** keys to your hummer…. I’m going to kill you, … give me the keys….”
He wondered if it was a plastic gun, or a joke…
As he goes to get the keys for him, there’s a shot and there’s a hole in the ceiling above his head.
“give me the keys…”
The shop owner walks around the back of the office while the gun is aimed on him, the guy screaming “I’m gonna kill you give me the keys” with the gun pointed 6″ from his face.
He pulls the trigger, and he hears it “click”
Jalinski goes after him, gets hit with the stock of gun above the eye.
“Now I’m torqued at this guy.. but I gotta get this gun away from him.”
After a battle, he gets the gun away from Murray and gets him in the corner, subdues him and has him bent backwards over a railing, when one of the employees (none of whom could hear the noise over their work) saw him through the window, and helps subdue him. Another employee call 911 while others restrain him in the coffee room.
The assailant is sitting in a chair and and offers “I’m depressed”
“You’re depressed?”
It took around 5 minutes for the cops arrive. He had 18 shotgun shells, twenty-four 303 shells, and a full loaded clip for a 303. There were 4 more guns in his truck.
“He was on a little bit of a Terminator mission.”
The shot that didn’t go off had jammed. There were four more shells in the shotgun.
“The police told me he was on a mission. If it wasn’t here, it was
somebody else.”

He was cut and bleeding from the battle, but otherwise in fairly good shape.
“Get this. He parks his truck in front of the hummer. He’s going to steal my hummer but he’s got to move his truck before he can steal my hummer. I looked out the window and his dog is on the seat.”
He thinks he was on “mind altering drugs”. No doubt.
“The police said I shouldn’t go after him. But what am I going to do? I’m not going to negotiate with a guy who’s got a shotgun pointed at my face.”

64 Replies to ““Now I’m torqued at this guy””

  1. The criminal will get off with a slap on the wrist (poor baby didn’t know what he was doing) and the victim should be thankful he hasn’t been charged for defending himself.

  2. I imagine the police are ordered to warn victims that they should not protect themselves. After all, if we find that we are not all shrinking violets we won’t need Big Brother protecting us? I can see this shop owner being charged before the criminal is.

  3. “The town requiring citizens to own a gun was Kenesaw, Georgia; they passed their law in response to a law passed in Morton Grove, Illinois, which BANNED handguns in the city (they apparently hadn’t noticed the results of the de facto ban that exists next door in Chicago).”
    I stand corrected SDC…getting old and the senior moments of memory lapse become frequent πŸ˜‰

  4. I want everybody on this string to remember one thing: This goblin pulled the trigger on his victim…that was the “click” the victim heard…had it not been for a malfunction in the gun, the victim (and probably others) would be dead….this is nothing less than attempted murder.
    Keep an eye on this case to see what they actually charge this goblin with…I’ll wager he gets no firearms charges and does not see an attempted murder charge because he will plea temporary insanity.
    In a just and proper civil society an armed goblin attacking peaceful citizens would be dispatched by the intended victims so the too-late-to-prevent-the-crime late-arriving cops need only bring a dixie cup to pick up the criminal’s remains…and there will NOT be any wounded “depressed” goblin for the bleeding heart social engineers to have show up in court and testify against the “brutality” of his intended victims.
    …the government/justice system that would set murderous miscreants free on a disarmed public who are also forbidden armed defense from those criminals is an immoral tyranny.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Hey Yoop: My scatter gun has a higher HR than your .40 nyaaa πŸ˜‰
    Just raggin’ ya.
    Personally although I have shot handgun comp for a number of years a hand gun would not be my first choice for home defense(HGs are suited for close range Police gun fights with goblins but not for home defense in an urban area)….I would chose a short(legal) auto-loading 12 gage with an extended mag and load it with 3″ SSGs and #1 buckshot alternately for 8 rounds…this way any of the pattern that is not soaked up by the armed invading goblin goes into the drywall and stays there or won’t make it to a neighbour’s property line.

  5. Yoop, the creepoids I met in hospital were in NYC (Yonkers actually, its worse if anything). The one guy got it through the liver from the front, through the neck from the side as he turned, and through the fibula from the back as he ran away. And kept running. The other guy got it through the tibia and abdomen. He ran away too, shredded knee and all. Drugs can be pretty amazing.
    From this I took away that pistols are for when you can’t get to a real gun and I better go for the head shot. Bottom line, I feel at a disadvantage with anything less than 8mm Mauser or shotgun slugs.
    Which here in Canada is all the time. These days I keep a loaded flashlight and hope for the best. Thank you again, Alan Rock. On the bright side, I can’t remember the last time anybody got shot around here, so that may be enough.

  6. “I would chose a short(legal) auto-loading 12 gage with an extended mag and load it with 3″ SSGs and #1 buckshot alternately for 8 rounds…”
    Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at July 24, 2007 9:53 AM
    WLM,
    EXACTLY! Right on the money. That is why there is hanging, in a hidden but readily accessible manner, 10 feet from where I sit typing this, an 18″ barreled, three inch chambered Mossberg 500A pump 12 gauge.
    Autos are good, but nothing beats that universally recognized sound of a cycling pump as an *attention* getter. πŸ˜‰
    Order of business: first in spout is #8 birdshot, followed by two OO Buck, two 1 ounce rifled slugs, and then more 00 Buck. Always loaded the same so I can cycle to what I need.
    On the stock rides an elastic ammo carrier with two white flares and three “animal crackers”.
    The flares and animal crackers (M-80 firecracker-like things that travel 75 yards before detonating) are used to keep the local coyote pack respectful, and out of the yard at night. My pets appreciate that.
    The local wolf pack has, so far, kept at least 200 yards from the house. My cat, and especially the dog, appreciate that. Well, except for the injured one that was a radio-collared female that actually came and stood by the back deck. The feds had to come and trap her. They are federally protected; no shooting.
    The slugs are in case the 400+ pound black bear that crossed near the yard two nights ago decides to ignore the bird feeders and knocks on the deck door. The dog definitely does not like that scent.
    The rest are for whatever… the two legged variety of bandits have decided to stay clear since they buglarized me 12 years ago. I’m not sure why.
    Maybe if I had a Hummer. πŸ™‚

  7. Root cause of gang crime: Millions of people, many poor, work and live and raise their families peacefully. Very few of them become violent, some joining gangs, using guns and murdering people. For the few who do violence, we act as if they are acting on some impulse, fuelled by poverty. They think they are therefore entitled to use violence, and cry oppression when they get arrested. That is the root cause of gang crime.

  8. Judges should be held accountable for their actions; that is simple enough, but hell will have to freeze over first.
    And why is it depressed people can never just take themselves out, but always have to take someone else with them. This guy should have just put the barrel of his gun beneath his own chin and done us all a favor.
    The reason nutjobs get away with ‘murder’ is for the simple fact that they count on people doing nothing and on being unarmed. That nutjob wouldn’t have even attempted to steal that hummer by gunpoint, if guns were pointed back at him. People do things because they can, and that is why you rarely hear about women beating up men because they can’t….in nearly every case, so this nutjob could and he did and our tax dollars will pay for his defence, if it even makes it to court.

  9. “People do things because they can,…”
    Posted by: Joanne at July 24, 2007 1:51 PM
    That was exactly Bill Clinton’s response, and excuse, when asked the why regarding Monica: “Because I could.”
    If that was good enough for Bill, why not for everyone?

  10. There some man in ILLINIOS who used a gun to protect his familty froma crinimal and now the village idiots their city council and moron mayor sent him to jail FRANKLY ITS THE CITY COUNCIL AND JERK MAYOR WHO SHOULD BE SENT TO JAIL AND THROW AWAY THE KEY

  11. Ryan sounds like a very troubled young man i am sure there are some serious underlying issues that they missed in the assesment. i dont beleive that he would do this just because he thought he had the right.

  12. It’s long past due … the man pulling the trigger and (fortunately having the gun jamb) is responsible.
    Yes, the judge needs some judgement on this. I don’t care for most of the American system, but if we elected the judges, they would think twice.
    The police say what they say because they are told they have to say that. Deep down, I can be certain they were going “good job”. In fact, they provide exactly that when they speak of “probebly stopped a killing spree”.
    What a mess we have in our system:(.

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