During my stint at the CBC Election Roundtable earlier this year, I critiqued Jack Layton’s plan for “focused, targeted steps to support creative people and to make sure Canadians see themselves in our culture.”
I can’t continue. My eyes are bleeding.
And before you, dear reader, object – be advised that I am an artist. In fact, the most common type of artist, a living, breathing, working one of the unheralded “commercial” variety. Unlike our cousins in “the Arts,” we manage to make a living at our craft without seeking comfort from the nanny state wet nurse.
I forgot to add – “or offering it.”;
The Lactation Station Breast Milk Bar is partly funded by a grant from the Canada Council for the Arts.
That moaning you just heard was the sound of John Williamson curling up in a fetal position on the floor.
I would like to MOON Miss Dobkin and thereby “re-contextualizes something often regarded as indecent or repellent, offering a celebratory view”.
Breast Milk Bar only in Canada? Pity.
Has this breast milk, which the public will sample, been tested for HIV?
For starters, I’d like proof that the breast milk samples at this Lactation Station Breast Milk Bar are “pasteurized.” Breast milk is a bodily fluid which can be healthy, but it can also carry communicable diseases which I’m pretty sure the customers mosying up to this Bar would like to avoid.
Why doesn’t it surprise me that the nutbar who came up with this idea is a lesbian? She’s already a few feet wide of the maternal plumbline (I maintain that a child for its optimum mental health and development thrives with a mother AND a father, rather than a single mother, or a mother and ANOTHER mother) and with this idiocy is widening her circle of off-kilter experimentation another few notches.
And she’s being funded by the Canada Council for the Arts? ‘Talk about milking the public.
How many babies will go hungry for the sake of art.
Blood Fortified Artist gets G.G. Award? Next Iron Fortified – Milk Maiden to sell samples with proceeds to go to Haitan Orphans?
Shouldn’t Health Canada be stepping in here? And I don’t mean with cookies.
Er, ah, got milk?
How many more of these bs projects are Canadians going to fund until someone gets the cajones to start shitcanning these elitist bureaucrats that hand out this funding.
It boggles the mind to think how much lower our taxes could be if we got rid of all the waste in Ottawa, not to mention how much our GDP would increase if these parasites actually had to get jobs that contributed to the economy instead of suckling at the Federal teat.
I think this just asks for a made for TV movie from CBCpravda. Starring Margot Kidder as the spaced out lesbian donor.
Then they wonder why the average Canadian, or “right-winger” as the socialists call us, don’t vote for the NDP. What a colossal waste of money. Of course, any criticism will be considered evidence of homophobia by the socialists or some other garbage label.
Why can’t they do it like the rest of us? Ask the wife after junior is finished 😉
Sorry, but as I fully support breast feeding (two kids and never bought a litre of formula), and sincerely love the packaging, I can’t understand how: a) merely tasting could be considered art, and b) how the government could fund this “art”. But then again I remember The Life and Times of Bubbles Galore and some photographer (?) put polaroids in road kill hanging in trees and both got got funded. I also remember how a proposal from an Alberta artist to write a book on the disappearing grain elevators of the prairies got rejected.
My hat goes off to all the real artists that can actually put food on their table without government assistance. As a serious photographer who has exhibited and sold my work, I am always disgusted at the hoity toity artsy fartsy community who think they know art and their sh*t doesn’t smell. They are always first in line for govt handouts. Art can honestly pay, ask Kate.
During my stint at the CBC Election Roundtable earlier this year
Stint? That wasn’t a stint. It was the attempt to expose you for the hate-bag you are. Everyone knows that, KKKate.
By the way, your oeuvre from that period is total crap, Katie. Ten years from now, you’ll just be a distant memory of the skank from Delisle, Saskatchewan who, like Coulter and Malkin, every decent person hated.
Tick, tock, tick tock, cunt…you’ve got 1 minute left.
The Milk Marketing Board will have something to say about this infringement on their monopoly! Or has she purchased a quota from them?
Thanks to Ti-Guy for showing just what Liberals, Progressives, Leftists and the NDP are made of.
I’m speechless.
Does anyone else notice the lack of logical argument flowing forth from the vitriolic left? The best they can come up with is a foaming at the mouth, spit infused diatribe.
“KKKate”??? The implication that Kate is somehow a racist is lost on me. What exactly are you basing this on?
“oeuvre” Wow. I take it you had eggs for breakfast and learned a new french word. Good for you!!
I am a decent person and I like all other decent people do not hate Coulter, Malkin or anyone. I only feel love for all humans. Why are you so full of hatred Ti-Guy??
If you made that final reference in front of me…you would quickly be educated in how to properly speak in public and particularly in front of and to a lady.
lmao. apparently I am the one who needs to take some french.
hey is right. I’d take that as a threat if I were a cop or lawyer.
Best thing to do is ignore Ti-guy. He must be off his meds again.
Ti-Guy:
You have already demonstrated on another blog that you are a raving lunatic who needs, desperately, to resume his meds…
As top the “Arts” proposal…give me strength…
Proof that liberalism is a progressive disease.
Ti-Guy?
Once again, the ‘tolerant, inclusive’ Left impeaches itself, with its own words.
Thank you.
I will reproduce your nasty little screed on every forum and blog I frequent.
Appreciate it, turkey.
BTW, do you speak to the women in your family this way? Just curious…
Is there a ‘supply management board’ set up for those milk producers? What about the culled (past producing) ‘ones’, is there any market for ‘them?’- How often do they have to be ‘refreshed’ (my Dad called that calving, what is it called in this particular industry? – he always let his cows dry up befor breeding season so they would have lots of milk for their new calf) Do the human herd use disinfectant on their udders? Questons for those who want to know…like NKOTB and I!!
IMO this is just another attempt by the snots of the left to mock all things wholesome and good for families. They produce trash, like Broke back Mountain to make us question the wonderful, wild , courageous real men of the west – the cowboys – they try to trash that image so any red blooded young boy will be embarassed to play the role of the eternal freeman, the cowboy. Sleaze ball nobodies like Ty-guy sneer at our hostess Kate because she lives in Sask. and earns her own living plus running the best news site in Canada. The pea green envy of these slugs oozes from their vile pens and their rubbry blubbery lips; worthless sneer. Offensive artsy fartsy individuals have been running with the Liberano/Dipper gangs – they all live in the same cess pool. Good people must resist the impulse to listin to anything these losers write or say or produce. They make good people feel sick.
I sort of laugh at the comments that have been posted on here tonight. I think everyone is really missing the point that Kate is trying to make.
Kate, as an artist is not looking for us as a taxpayer to support what she does. She is looking after her self…. so why is the Council for Arts funding something like drinking breastmilk???
Ti-Guy,
God knows I disagree with Kate. Often. And how.
But what you’ve written just isn’t right.
This is a woman who spends a good chunk of her day running a forum, completely as a volunteer, where people can get informed and exchange ideas.
We need more people like Kate in today’s world, and in modern democracies.
If you dislike her ideas, make a reasoned argument against them. God knows there’s an argument to be made 😉
Kate, please keep up the good work, and don’t think for a second that that senseless screed represents the rest of us who don’t form your core constituency.
There’s quite a number of us out here who disagree with you often, and respect you always.
Greetings
“Tony”
Ti-Guy,
God knows I disagree with Kate. Often. And how.
But what you’ve written just isn’t right.
This is a woman who spends a good chunk of her day running a forum, completely as a volunteer, where people can get informed and exchange ideas.
We need more people like Kate in today’s world, and in modern democracies.
If you dislike her ideas, make a reasoned argument against them. God knows there’s an argument to be made 😉
Kate, please keep up the good work, and don’t think for a second that that senseless screed represents the rest of us who don’t form your core constituency.
There’s quite a number of us out here who disagree with you often, and respect you always.
Greetings
“Tony”
Wow Kate. You didn’t steal the limelight from some perversion artist during your last cross-burning at the Fringe did you? Sounds pretty vindictive.
KKKate, Coulter, Malkin, the c-word, and a clock ticking- all in the same post on a thread ridiculing the pseudo-art industry that has wasted billions since Expo 67.
Whaddaya know… it’s not everyday you get to see the work of a truly gifted gynophobic socialist surrealist.
I think that the Canada Council grants can go to such absurdities as the above is a result of the left having hijacked the definition of art.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the lesbian mother opening her breast milk bar is a Wiccan. This is exactly the upside-down illogic that witchcraft espouses. And speaking of spouses: Wiccans are less married to partners than to their craft.
Collecting mothers’ milk for those other than their babies–strangers, in other words–to taste is, frankly, sick. Like Jema54, I’m a great fan of breastfeeding: I breastfed both of my daughters, and never paid for formula or bottles or had to find a heat source when they needed to be fed. ‘Just tucked them under my shirt and, VOILA, 20 minutes later, a happy baby, not to mention a happy mom.
Breastfeeding is an intimate relationship between mother and child, designed for the optimum physical health of the baby (it builds up essential antibodies in the baby’s immune system, among other things) and is a wonderful “mechanism” for the physical, psychological, and spiritual bonding of mother and child.
To exploit mother’s milk–and, by extension the intimate mother/child bond–this way, by offering it to disinterested parties as part of an “art” installation, is a perversion and a desecration of its original intent which, essentially, is what occult witchcraft is all about: turning everything upside down, vandalizing sacred relationships and understandings.
From a post entitled “Liberals and trangression” at: http://kraalspace.blogspot.com/2006/06/liberals-and-transgression.html:
“…in the phantasia of [her] consciousness, [she] is attracted almost sexually to the idea of trangression–to soiling the respectable. [Quote by David Warren]…most of all, what [she] seek[s] is the thrill of transgression; the dark pleasure of pollution and destruction. For people in thrall to such perversion, other people’s rules and norms are essential. A vandal cannot be tempted by the prospect of designing and building [her] own structure; the whole point of [her] existence is to soil and deface what belongs to someone else.”
This is a classic definition of a parasite. What Jess Dobkin is actually doing with her installation, is not sucking the teat dry; she’s actually sucking the life out of a time-honoured and sacred bond between mother and child.
Creepy.
Thanks Kate.
…”focused, targeted steps to support creative people and to make sure Canadians see themselves in our culture.”…
I can definitely see the ‘support’:
http://tinyurl.com/g665w
But I’m having a much more difficult time seeing the ‘creative’ & ‘culture’ part:
http://tinyurl.com/fkvcj
Imagine this… It’s after midnight as the weekend begins, Ti-Guy is trolling around the internet (insert the standard “mother’s basement” and “tin-foil hat” references here) he reads about an artist who wants people to…
“quench their curiosity” and taste samples of pasteurized human breast milk at her upcoming show.”
“Jess Dobkin has titled her work the Lactation Station Breast Milk Bar.” (shouldn’t that be “tittled”?)
“Participants will have the opportunity to sample small quantities of breast milk, donated by local lactating new mothers at this free public tasting,” said a news release.” (Hey, it’s FREE! You don’t have to pay for your breast milk shooter! That ought to bring in the crowds!)
The artist says “she became interested in taboos surrounding breastfeeding”, which is news to us Canadians who knew nothing of any “taboos” other than a normal human sense of discretion regarding intimate bodily functions, although the artist projects on her hoped-for audience her sick perception of “something often regarded as indecent or repellent” that “becomes a curiosity in adulthood.”
Anyway, back to Ti-Guy alone at his computer late at night, in a state of excitement after reading about this, he lashes out and makes an unfortunate post, foul and cruel. Anyone interested in reading more of his posts can find them over at that “blithering idiot” Zerb’s blog, Ti-Guy’s a regular over there (surprise surprise), a good place to copy and paste his post (although, like all internet moonbat septic tanks, comments there are agressively censored).
WTF makes leftists think that splattering the contents of their hineys onto canvas is art?
Oh, yeah, there are those who actually do that and believe it’s art.
Our tax dollars shouldn’t go to freaks and geeks with no talent who don’t want a real job.
The real artists are those with talent and who don’t beg for money.
Now, Kate’s a real artist. Just check out her stuff. I mean, hot damn! Definitely worth paying for to put on your wall and show off proudly to company!
O/T: Canadian Sentinel gets award… from the “enemy”:
http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2006/06/sentinels-first-blogger-award.html
The CP newswire story has a few more details that contain reaction by several bemused tories.
http://tinyurl.com/ncjsf
It pisses me off that once tax dollars are handed to an “arm’s length” organization, the government loses control and any say about the appropriateness of the groups spending decisions.
From Godless, Chapter one by Ann Coulter:
“This is a country in which taxpayers are forced to susidize “artistic” exhibits of aborted fetuses, crucifixes in urine, and gay pornography. Menawhile, it’s unconstitutional to display a Nativity scene at Christmas or the Ten Commandments on government property if the purpose is to promote monotheistic religion.”
……..
“Liberals swoon in pagan admiration of Mother earth, mystified and overawed by her power.”
It’s like Robert Bateman said in 1988 during the Free Trade debate.
“If I can’t sell my paintings…maybe I shouldn’t be a painter.”
These so-called artists would literally starve to death if it wasn’t for the public teat.
Message to Mr. Harper, “Stop funding these imbeciles.”
Perhaps Ti-guy was not breastfed as an infant. Maybe there is still a chance for him if he gets to this Lactation Station quickly.
Kate
Thanks for the lift in life
Your site is both informing and thoughtful.
Your professional humility is tasteful
And of course your style is impeccable
There’s a saying that goes something like
Living well is the best of lifestyles and you seem to do this well;so go Kate go!
You certainly don’t need susidizing.
You have to wonder what type of hallucinagen Ti-guy has been using. Maybe it’s too much Ti-weed!!! This guy is not only foul mouthed but has totally lost touch with reality.
The bread and butter of Canada are us ordinary working people who think art is something that adds to life . Beautiful painting from the Group of seven, wonderfull music from people like Natalie McMaster from Cape Breton Island ,Nickleback from Hannah , fabulous comedy from our home town boy Brent Butt. I even love those talking beaver commercials that are currently running on TV. All this art happens without Canada Council grant.
Many of the projects that are (I dislike the word funded with a passion) given taxpayer’s money to waste seem to be designed to disgust, revolt and anger us ordinary folk. The most extreme example that I can recall are the dead rotting bunnies.
Most taboos developed for very good reason usual to do with transmission of disease either directly or indirectly.
It would appear that the abilty of the left to overcome these taboos make them superior in their own minds.
To quote my 81 year old other ” Today everything that is right is wrong and everything that is wrong is right.” This kind of bizarre display being rammed down Canadian’s throat with their own money is another example of how out of touch the people running Heritage Canada have become. Maybe they are using the same drug as Ti-guy.
Hopefully under the new and improved Canadian administration we will see a little common sense, decency and respect used in handing out taxpayer’s money. Better yet get rid of the grant system altogether.
I agree with Kate that art should be treated like any business. If a business can only survive with govenment handout then it shouldn’t be there.
The likes of Ti-guy brings the term troll to a whole new level. Defending the indefensible because it is just part of the leftist mantra.
Ti-guy try inserting some logic in your diatribes or at least a little humour.
I’m sure Kate just laughs when she reads comments from the likes of Ti-guy .They just expose themselves for what they are ” Small people with small lives”. With a very limited vocabulary I might add.
Doe anyone know how much of our tax dollars were given to this “artist” ??
Wow thai-guy, it’s nice to see that you’re staying true to yourself. The more centrists that see your screed, the more converts we’ll have moving to the right. Please, keep up your good work!
Tax dollars going to small or large business? Never heard of it. Why would we subsidize business? They choose to be ‘risk takers’ then tax payers have to subsidize their “risk” through a myriad of write-offs, write-downs, and deferrals on borrowed money. Meanwhile, they lobby(also a tax supported business expense) to get their taxes to zero,asap.
No, it is too absurd to even imagine.
This anti-artist is not only full of milk, she’s full of sh**.
There is nothing “celebratory” about her Breast Milk Bar; in fact, offering mother’s milk to every Tom, Dick, and Harriet is obscene vandalism of an intimate and, some would say, sacred bond between mother and child.
There is a definite whiff of sulphur as Dobkin more than affirms what ruralroot’s 81 year old mother says: “Today everything that is right is wrong and everything that is wrong is right.” Adherents of the occult delight in turning the world upside down, so that what most of us revere and hold in high esteem, they degrade and desecrate.
At its most basic, Dobkin’s Milk Bar is a parasitic concept, feeding off society’s conventions and rules; in fact, more than feeding off them, it actually sucks dry the authentic physical, psychological, and spiritual bond between mother and breastfeeding child. This is not a lively concept but a deadly one.
BTW, Toronto Public Health had better be on hand to monitor the bodily fluids/mothers’ milk being sampled by the unsuspecting public on July 13. As to Dobkin’s statement that “many drink [mother’s milk] exclusively for the first months of life,” and that her installation is to correct her assertion that “the memory of that taste and the sensation of drawing milk from the breast are forgotten,” I’d say “Amen. Get used to it.”
“And grow up.”
Titless wonder talks about lactating.
Get off the stage, skank.
Go away, Ti-Guy. Your posts stink.
PS–I’m planning on writing to the Ontario College of Art and Design (general@ocad.on.ca) to ask them if they’re planning on having some public health inspectors at the installation to check the bodily fluids for communicable diseases and to see if they are going to post some warning signs: “Danger. Ingesting bodily fluids from unknown sources could be a danger to your health!”
Check out goof #2, steve d., another contender for the Stupidest Troll trophy… “They choose to be ‘risk takers'”. Oooh, and the other choices are…? As opposed to the coming Trudopia where there will be no risk taking, where all will serve the state. Barbara Tuchman wrote that economic man and sensual man will not be repressed (sorry, but when she wrote in 1978 “man” had not been replaced by “person”) but in steve d.’s dreams economic man will be eliminated. Hey stevie, maybe if you were smart enough to learn about economics rather than just parrot simplistic Marxist economics drivel you’d learn that tax breaks to businesses create jobs and stimulate economic growth, eventually generating more revenue to the government. You’re an amusing fool steve d., please keep posting for our entertainment.
How many recipients of Canada Council grants have donated to the Lie-beral Party of Canada since 1993?
Wondering what the container will be for the samples. Original packaging by any chance.
“Does anyone know how much of our tax dollars were given to this “artist” ??”
$9,000 for ‘free’ milk
More on economics… while I would think there must be better recipients for grants than this bizarre and deranged artistic event, bear in mind that, for its $9000 investment, the government will see returns. Hopefully several hundred citizens will turn out to this event rather than sitting at home in their sweatsuits watching TV, which means they’ll drop money in stores for their outfits – some will be wearing over a thousand dollars in fashions – and most will no doubt go out to restaurants, bars and cafes, before and after, in groups, again spending money. Cabs, public transit, personal vehicles, all generating economic activity which in turn will generate revenue to all three levels of government. One could argue these people would find an excuse to dress up, go out, and socialize anyway but, in the big picture, any kind of urban recreational event, such as this breast milk tasting, that gets people out of their homes, generates lots of consumer activity. There is method to the government madness, getting that downtown crowd out in the streets strengthening and supporting their cash churning culture.
LESBIAN … SINGLE PARENT.
This is probably frightfully obvious, but why did these two pieces of personal data have to be included in the “art” story. Should they be relevant at all? Is is evident that these labels are now avant-garde badges of honour? Are these the new “mum and apple pie”.
Anon: your phrase : out in the streets strengthening and supporting their cash churning culture.
A heads-up on how conservatives and other grown-ups are likely to read that: ‘poor anon, sounds like he hasn’t done very well financially …’
I used to work at the Confederation Centre of the Arts here in Charlottetown. There is currently a mini-uproar because the Cons have cut a lot of the Centre’s federal funding (in the millions). What most Canadians don’t realize though is that the Centre receives funding from nearly every provincal treasury as well, because it is a “national institution” (ask your province whether they send a cheque).
Anyways, my first day on the job, I had to tour the art gallery. Nearly the entire top floor of the gallery was devoted to the work of one artist (I don’t recall his name). It featured many things made of human hair (such as wreaths) and two displays that contained pig fetuses called “pig fetus number 1 and number 2”.
Harper majority, anyone?