Between 11:30 and 12:00 this afternoon (saskatoon time), we will be on BBC’s World Have Your Say, to discuss similar issues as we posted in yesterday’s article found HERE. The key focus will be this op-ed, which should raise a few eyebrows. There will be a panel of a number of voices from around the world.
Trudeau’s Senator appointee, Stollery, pukes his ad americanum puke. Barf Alert.
Douglas, Trudeau, Ostry (Wadena, Sask.): not dead enough. …
“Foreign Affairs Minister Peter MacKay got a rough ride in his first appearance before the Senate national security and defence committee, but the proceedings turned particularly ugly when Liberal Senator Peter Stollery hurled an insult at Karzai, Afghanistan’s interim president, who MacKay said would soon be visiting Canada.
“You know Karzai, he’s a stooge. He was put there by Americans. Everybody knows that,” Stollery said.
“First of all, I don’t believe President Karzai is a stooge,” MacKay said.
“He can’t be anything else,” Stollery interjected, before fellow Liberal Senator Colin Kenny, who was chairing the hearing, cut him off.
“With respect,” MacKay replied in an even tone, “he was democratically elected, and having met him, I find him to be a compelling, charismatic, dedicated person that wants to help his country.”
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Appointed to the Senate by the late former Prime Minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau, Senator Peter Stollery represents the province of Ontario and the … liberal.ca
CJunk did a good job on the BBC thing!
Too bad he didn’t get a chance to flesh out the discussion with more of the observations from his post.
We in Canada are going to have to admit that we have to pick up the ball and run with it in Afghanistan. That means a large, long term commitment of blood and treasure.
This is not a negative thing. We should be proud that as Canadians we are willing to shoulder this huge load for the good of all.
As Debris Trail points out, we have done it before, more than once. And the world and Canada was better for it.
Canada has an opportunity to make a real, positive difference…for the first time in a generation. Let’s
not blow it, or it will cost us astronomically more in the future. We occupied Europe for at least 40 years, and it wasn’t cheap or easy, but it turned out pretty well. Instant gratification is not possible when you choose to rebuild an entire nation on the other side of the world – But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do it.
We should. Why? Because we can…
…And we must. Our long-term survival depends on it.
Given the pessimistic , anti-Bush , ant-Blair , left-wing bias expressed by the BBC , it is hard to know if this BBC report is more “the sky is falling” or is actually factual.
There is no question that the drug traffic has increased since the Taliban were thrown out , but it is not a “given” that the Taliban are taking control again or if the BBC is once again just trying to push their anti-war agenda.
Given the pessimistic , anti-Bush , ant-Blair , left-wing bias expressed by the BBC , it is hard to know if this BBC report is more “the sky is falling” or is actually factual.
There is no question that the drug traffic has increased since the Taliban were thrown out , but it is not a “given” that the Taliban are taking control again or if the BBC is once again just trying to push their anti-war agenda.
It is always easy to criticize after the fact (BBC , CBC etc.), but when one has to start from a blank page , formulating policy or making a product , it is not so easy. I dare say not one of these “journalists” have ever had to actually make anything … just criticize after the fact.
I wonder what the operational restrictions are that the BBC article mentions that hamper efforts to come to grips with the Taliban.
The article also mentions the fact that the Taliban have safe havens in Pakistan that the West won’t touch. Unless and until these kinds of restrictions are lifted, the battle can’t be decisively won.
Canada under the regime of Chretien/Martin became a failing state.
The long journey back from the abyss of failure has started in Canada under the leadership of Stephen Harper.
There are miles to go; the road back is littered with landmines left behind by the liberal/socialists. The Liberal resurgents are plotting the overthrow of the Harper government.
What say the people of Canada? ..
The Sad State of the World
“In outline any mechanism capable of dealing with failing states would combine aspects of what is called “homeland security” (border control, immigration policy), a forward military presence, economic development and institution building in an effort to meet the problem. But above all it should be scalable because the list of failing states seems capable of lengthening indefinitely while the current means for dealing with them appear capable of only marginal growth. That all-around and scalable mechanism probably doesn’t exist. But new needs usually inspire equally new organizational paradigms and perhaps one will emerge. During the Great War, for example, it became clear that the British Empire lacked an institution able to fight a long European war. So they created a new one. Horatio Kitchener remolded the colonial army into a mass army.
Contrary to general Cabinet belief that the war would be over by Christmas of 1914, Kitchener predicted a long and brutal war … Kitchener fought off all opposition to his plan, and all attempts to weaken or water down its potential, including a piece-meal dispersal of the regiments. … Kitchener’s Army represented a major turning point in the military history of the United Kingdom: for the first time, the full effort of the nation and its people was committed to a massive land force fighting against other powers of Europe, with the Royal Navy playing an important but secondary role.
There was no revolution in tactics or technology; Kitchener simply found a new way to sustainably harness the British potential for the Great War. Similarly, if today’s institutions cannot cope with a low-intensity but widespread Third World chaos, the West must find new ways to concentrate its underutilized potential or fall further and further behind. The important thing to realize is that much of this potential lies outside Western state bureaucracies. …
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BBC or CBC….. does not make much difference.
Except the BBC is even more complicit in the socialist/communist lead anti-war movement. CBC is like BBC Lite!
Havens for liberal/socialist idiots who believe that we can ignore the dangers of the world and achieve peace through accomodation with lunatic thugs.
Morons all!
The one saving grace of the Telegraph piece is that they seem to actually be encouraging resolve on the issues.
Mr. Rashid, who penned the BBC article, made it clear on today’s BBC program that conditions in Afghanistan are much much better than under the Taliban. He defended America and NATO, but he did say that much needs to be done, and that by now, a lot more could have been done. Instead of using the political capital gained after 911, little was done in Afghanistan.
My concern is, what did our Liberal PM’s promise the Americans, and did they live up to that promise in Afghanistan. We can’t expect the USA to do it all alone. NATO, which consists of a lot of countries, has put very little effort into Afghanistan, and that is where the problem is as far as I see it.
Under Harper, it looks like things may be changing. And, I’ll bet that if Canada steps up to the plate, it’ll be easier for European states to do so as well.
I repeat, it is very unfair for us to expect the Yanks to do it all. Yet, only the Brits have a complete and large enough armed force to really do a lot on their own. We as Canadians depend massively on USA airpower, logistics support, and hightech battlefield capability… without them, we are not much better than the Taliban because we can’t even get our heavy equipment over there, we can’t give close air support, and our battlefield awareness would be no better than that of the Korean War. Every single Afghan battle we’ve been in has ended up being a slaughter of Taliban because of USA airpower. Our people are good, but very dependent.
The Liberal legacy is shameful, immoral, and represents the greatest of cowardice and hypocracy one can imagine. Chretien committed our forces without giving them the tools to protect themselves and HE depended on America’s massive support to keep our people safe… then he turned around and bad-mouthed the Americans along with Martin. What pricks.
regarding turdeau, ostry ‘not dead enough’.
every time the name ostry popped up over the years, I would recall the story how that s.o.b. left the civil service and started a consulting thingy or whatever.
seems when he left his honcho position as bureaucrat mandarin, he took a huge computer database of names gleaned from his govt position and thus had a ready made potential client list for his spankin new startup company.
if anyone cares to share the location of ostry’s grave site I would be appreciative.
anybody know how much manure fits in the back of a std pickup truck?