86 Replies to “Sign Of Faint Hope?”

  1. The Election: RCMP Investigations
    Timing of probes just a matter of independence, Mounties say.
    By TIMOTHY APPLEBY
    Saturday, January 14, 2006
    Extract:
    At issue is “the intervention of Canada’s national police force in a national election campaign,” columnist Don MacPherson opined in the Montreal Gazette this week.
    The controversy arises from the tightly guarded RCMP criminal investigation into whether there was a leak of information ahead of Finance Minister Ralph Goodale’s Nov. 23 announcement about tax changes that benefit income-trust dividends. Suspicion lingers in some quarters that the RCMP telegraphed news of the probe to sabotage the Liberals’ re-election prospects.
    The Mounties flatly reject that charge, insisting they were compelled to follow protocol and disregard the fact that an election campaign is under way. As for publicizing the investigation, they say they did nothing of the kind.
    From what is known, they appear so far to have a good case.
    Whether there was a leak or not, what is clear is that with the minority Liberal government about to fall, collective expectations of a tax break were sufficient to generate a surge of trading in income trusts in just before Mr. Goodale’s announcement. >>>
    http://www.rapp.org/url/?XIUAR07F
    globeandmail via bourque

  3. “L”, Liberals & Logos
    Feds’ million-dollar baby
    The federal Liberal government allowed the word Canada and the Canadian flag to be used to launder money.
    In March of 2004, Canadians learned that they paid almost $1 million for the development of the “Canada” logo — that simply consists of the word: Canada with a small Canadian flag above the last letter “a”…
    …eight Liberal-friendly advertising firms charged taxpayers $989,000 for “development and consulting” of the Canada logo. But now, it turns out, the wordmark was developed long ago.
    “It was scandalous enough when we learned that we paid $1 million for the Canada logo but it’s even more scandalous to learn we paid $1 million for the development of something that the government already owned for decades,” said Chrumka…
    http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Corbella_Licia/2006/01/14/pf-1393164.html

  5. Tweedledum and Tweedledee: which is which, take your pick.>
    Martin at Markham on the attack ads:
    “The ad was pulled because the ad was pulled, and because there were better ads — that’s essentially it,” Martin said during a campaign stop in Markham.
    Chretien on da proof:
    What kind of proof ? It’s a proof. A proof is proof. And when you have a good
    proof, it’s because it is proven.” >>
    Ah, so: the proof is the proof. Chretien/Martin, clones of a feather; siamese twins; goodfellas; grifters.

  6. Please, will someone say a few kind words about Sam’s ability to cut and paste? You don’t have to read that crap, but she/he puts soooo much work into it!
    BTW, does anybody know why lefties spend so much time trolling conservative blogs? Are they lonely?

  8. And they always say “George Bush” like the lower unemployment rate and 25% higher standard of living in the US is a bad thing.
    Go figure.

  9. Prisoners
    Voting at advanced Polls
    As someone said over at Andrew Coynes site,
    Why? Are they that busy?
    Why? Are they planning on going somewhere?

  10. Kate,
    They don’t mean the real “George Bush”, they mean the scary one that has a vampire’s thirst for oil, feeds baby seals and sings nuclear launch codes to small children as a lulaby.
    This post reminds me of The Scarlet Letter:
    A – adultry
    L – librano

  12. Kate,
    “Paul Martin expresses solidarity with prisoners who painted red letter L’s on their heads to demonstrate their Liberal Party preference.”
    Link still doesn’t work- goes to img=alt

  13. C’mon, ease up on convicts. As Jumpin’ Jack Flash-in-the-pan noted, Of course they should be allowed to vote. They are Canadian citizens.” Blessedly, he refrained from adding ‘they have feelings and values, too.’ Too late to nab an NDP vote or he’d have given it a try.

  15. Iam sick & tired of hearing shit like this, because we live in a society that has to be socially & politicaly correct, afraid to offend & we allow it to happen. Good god I even had a customer tell me I could’nt say Merry Christmas because it offends. Layton & Martin running around the country saying this is what Canadian’s want, You don’t know what I want or most Canadian’s because you never asked. Prisoner’s voting at advanced polls, you took away the freedom of the innocent. So pay your deb’t to society, because you are the one that made that choice!. Now were hereing them talking about Multiple Marridge, WHAT THE HELL ARE WE COMING TOO? YEA MR MARTIN ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AS VOTER’S WILL PROVE ON JAN 23.
    PS: I went to advance poll yesterday & they were swamped in my riding, Is this the “Winds of Change”

  16. So, I don’t mind putting up with a troll or two…
    Or a couple of hundred, it seems…Some of the names I see here are career trolls on progressive blogs.

  18. I hope the Ls are free tatoos. It will be the mark of Cain.
    If only the mark of Cain had been used in Mayerthorpe

  19. Inmates have the choice of voting in the riding where they previously resided or in the riding they were convicted.
    no wonder its difficult to storm fortess Toronto with its 48 seats.

  20. re: paranoid rambling dribble Posted by sam at January 14, 2006 07:39 AM…
    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious.”
    So are you openly admitting that martin and the liberals are fools?
    Holy shit!! i didnt realize we could survive having them in power? What’s another 12 years of the ambitious fools running our country?
    “But it cannot survive treason from within.”
    That’s why we’re having an election!!!
    In fact that is why we should have had an election as soon as the sponsorship scandal broke!!!!!
    “For the traitor appears not a traitor. . . He speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and wears their face and their garment, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men.”
    Hmmm…. a snippet from PMPM’s opening statement from the televised debates,
    “…I believe in a united Canada in what we can achieve together as a nation.”
    hmmm sounds quite appealling, to a proud canadian like myself… you could say it appeals to the baseness of my heart. Only peoblem is, I don’t know of a government that has done more to piss of and alienate more of the country than the liberals!
    “…he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city. . . he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.”
    Belinda, brown envelopes stuffed with money, bribes…want me to keep going?
    “A murderer is less to be feared.”
    i would prefer to be shot, stabbed and/or drowned in a vat of hydrochloric acid then have to put up with another liberal government!!
    “HARPER what are you doing over there…”
    mass producing a huge army of androids to rule the country? no wait… maybe he’s developing some sort of mind control ray… hurry get out the tinfoil hats!!!!! Enough already get off the hidden agenda crap!!!!!!
    “what kind of seads are you planting?”
    hope that someone who isn’t corrupt can run this country.
    Sam, I kinda feel sorry for you and all others that have the same paranoid beliefs as you. It’s people like you who hold this country back.

  21. You can tell Lie-beral’s and supporters are very worried by the number of Fibular Trolls posting their vitriol.

  23. It might have well been swasticas, like Charles Manson, painted on their forheads.
    I’m getting a nauseated feeling – did I just read what may be the Liberal hidden agenda?

  24. Sorry about the link. should be fixed now.

    Thank you, M’am.

    I am referring people to SDA, Angry, and a few other select sites.

    Your efforts are appreciated.

  25. Sam: A late response. Texas, as of 2000, with a population 2/3 that of Canada has a poverty rate of 15.4% compared with Canada’s rate of 16.2%, neither something to brag about but in comparison Texas may not be so bad after all. Murder rates definitely follow the imposition of the death penalty. Between 1930 and 1963, before the nationwide ban on executions, murder rates declined significantly. Yet during the period when no executions were allowed the murder rate doubled. Now since some states, usually the ones with high crime and murder rates, have the death penalty the murder rates are falling again. Puerto Rico which has no death penalty and bans the possesion of guns has the highest crime and murder rate in all of the states and territories of the US. As an American I am watching Canada’s election in the hopes that regardless of the outcome that sophomoric bashing of the US will end.

  26. “The Death Penalty Is Not a Deterrent” however, the cases of repeat offences seems to suggest that the general public have a bit less liberal voters to worry about.
    Oh yes, in Texas, I don’t pay a cent in state taxes. The amount of charity from the average American is far greater than Canadians although this probably doesn’t include Canada’s state funded “Charity” donation via your tax dollar.

  27. Peter Worthington did an article several years ago when inmates got the right to vote. He interviewed Clifford Olsen. Guess what his political bent was. Olsen said “once a liberal always a liberal.”

  28. I heard prisoners Bubba and ‘Big Jim’ are sitting in their cells holding hands awaiting their wedding date of Jan 24th. If the Liberals don’t win they won’t be able to get married…..and there’s why they voted Liberal.
    Either that or PM is giving them kickbacks. Now, who should really be in prison?

  29. RE: “Dither’s press conference on CPAC tonight”
    PMPM mentioned in this interview his admiration for Hernando de Soto from Peru, the website is http://www.ild.org.pe/home.htm don’t be put off by the foto of Bill Clinton, dig deeper, he advocates for Property Rights! as a way of having people access the hidden capital in the land they reside on… as an anti-poverty stance, this rocks! as compared to the current status quo of keeping the aboriginals in Canada dependant on Canadian govenment handouts.
    I find it difficult to believe that PMPM could have read all this and found it to not apply to the native situation in Canada…

  30. Paul Bernardo could be voting in St.Catherines .
    Paul Bernardo could be voting in Toronto.
    His ex Karla Homolka could be voting for Paul Martin.
    In Canada.
    Im not making this up.

  31. This I posted on another site….
    Drake wrote:
    Nice attitude. You obviously have no idea what goes on in cities like Toronto, or any other big City, if you believe that crap. I work for a living, just like most people, but I don’t begrudge the less fortunate. In case you haven’t noticed, a lot of these “useless people” don’t have the same opportunities that other people have. It’s not exactly easy to crawl out of a hole.
    I can see why you will be voting for the Conservatives. They share your attitude. When addressing the criminal element, Harper seems oblivious about the root cause of most of the unnecessary tragedies that occur. His answer is mandatory minimum sentences. That’s it. We all know how well mandatory minimum sentences have worked in other countries.
    Canada needs a leader who has a brain, but more importantly, a little compassion.
    Tell me your solution to this problem Please!! I’m dying to hear it! The solution to cure the root cause of crime is to move out of the ghetto! Grab your backpack and start walking; I could leave everything at a moments notice and travel to a better situation and get a job in no time! be it a job washing dishes at minimum wage, it’s a start!
    If you are a wannabe gangsta and bring your misguided feeling of being entitled to something, you deserve nothing! Hard work is how this country was founded. Harsher consequenses may motivate our youth to find a better life instead of spending a lifetime in jail. “ohh you poor misguided soul, we are sorry for making your life difficult and leading you to rape,pillage,steal and kill people. we will give you money so that you don’t have to do this anymore” Dumbass sociallists! Let me tell you a story about my own personal experience. I spent a couple months in jail for a dangerous driving conviction in which I fell asleep and hit another car. and everyone who drives has experienced fatigue behind the wheel. but because the lady I hit head on was injured, I was convited of dangerous driving causing bodilly harm. I plead guilty to this because I felt responsible and recieved 90 days straight time. because there was injury, I was classified as if it was an assault and was put in maximum security.
    My time there was hellish to say the least because I was surrounded with the worst scum society can produce. Theses people would rob and rape their own mother! I saw repeat offenders who just getting released a week earlier, back in incarceration with a rectum filled with drugs! you can get anything you want in jail as long as it will fit in your asshole!
    I saw inmates with mp3 players! and batteries were smuggled up peoples assholes! I made a mistake and did the time and the constant threat of anal rape kept me alert. But I will never put myself in a position again that will potentially lead to incarceration; I learned a hard lesson. Criminals don’t care about incarceration because they get to hang with their homies either way! Some prefer jail because they always get a hot meal! Giving these able bodied people more money won’t help because they are inherantly BAD! Here’s a snippet of the liberal platform now…
    Quote:
    Inmates use advance polls to air views on law-and-order platforms
    Last Updated Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:01:09 EST
    CBC News
    Advance polls opened across the country Friday, including at the Stony Mountain Institution, north of Winnipeg, where inmates cast their ballots in the federal election.
    A few inmates at a time were allowed into an open area of the prison where a polling station was set up. Officials at the institution expect voter turnout to exceed 50 per cent.
    Many inmates said they had a strong interest in the parties’ crime and justice platforms.
    Leslie Henry, who was incarcerated for killing his wife, would not say how he voted, but he said the mandatory minimum sentences proposed by all three major parties would not work.
    “I don’t really believe that minimum sentences are really going to change anything when it comes down to the actual numbers of crime,” he told CBC News.
    “People who commit crimes � even myself � we don’t think back and think, ‘Well, I might get five years if I do this.’ It just happens, a lot of times.”
    Concerned about parole rules
    Fellow inmate Jeff Power had a red “L” for “Liberal” painted on the side of his head. He was jailed for drug trafficking and robbing two pharmacies.
    He said he would not vote for the Conservatives because they’ve talked about tightening up parole rules.
    “My dad was sentenced to double life, way before when there was no eligibility for early parole,” Power said. “He killed himself. He couldn’t live with it. It was like there was no hope for him.”
    Power said there’s another reason he cannot vote Conservative: party leader Stephen Harper has said he would strip prisoners of the right to vote by using the notwithstanding clause in the Constitution.
    Power said that’s just one more way of isolating inmates, and it would make it even more difficult for them to integrate back into society once they’re released from prison.
    In 2002, the Supreme Court struck down an earlier law that denied inmates the right to vote, ending an 18-year battle over the issue. Inmates have a choice voting for candidates in the riding they lived in before they were arrested, or the riding in which they were convicted
    .
    Inmates can’t integrate back into society and programs to enable them to do so are a farce! Trust me I know! Inmates should not vote because of their bias against the greater good! You sociallists should all spend time incarcerated to broaden your views about life! Now back on topic, I want a government that has promised to end lobbyists position in government and a parliament which listens to it’s citizens concerns so that we can have public opinion on filesharing and not some “big money” decision against the populous! The liberals rely on the courts to legislate Canada; this is wrong and not how our country was intended to operate, lets give the power to create our laws back to the people’s representatives! Otherwise you will ALL have my experience if Hollywood has it’s way!
    And yes Paul Martin feels the need to create solidarity with inmates because the conservatives have the potential for a majority victory and he will be spending time with them in this event.
    I hope his view of legalising soddomy will benefit him in jail; will he be now married to fellow males becase they have consumated? will this be a polygamous marriage? Damn! they don’t have sheep in jail so he can’t do the beastiality thing! Well he should of corrupted Canada more and passed his degernerate views, cause he’ll need em! LOL!

  33. If Clifford Olsen is a Liberal . cant one of the seasoned veterans as Peter Pansbridge calls them go and ask Paul Bernardo or Karla Homolka which way they are voting.
    and now here is the reality check by Keith Boag or Kneel MacDonald .
    yes Karla and Paul Bernardo have just as many rights and a few more than you tax paying lackeys.
    Paul can vote in Toronto -Spidina , St Catherines. Toronto Centre –or anywhere else where he commited a crime.
    Karla can vote in Paul Martins riding.
    Yes , In Candaduh , I am nnnnootttt making this up.

  34. You know, reminding me of Clifford F*****g Olsen really made me ill. The fact that this bastard is allowed a vote mystifies me. Then to throw in Paul and Karla — well, it really hits home. To think that my vote is cancelled by one of these “beings” (I refuse to call them humans) is going to keep me awake for the next week, thank you very much. It is time for a change. It is time for changes to happen.

  35. Placing painted L’s on there head won’t make a differance . Painted C’s won’t either. It’s all one big holding company(penal system) for lawyers anyways…they don’t get rehabilitated but are trained to drum up more income for the criminal justice system. I look at inmates as investments for the legal community.
    Without them they (legal system) would be poor paupers and we would have to pay more tax’s for these bottom feeders to suck of off…Keep fooling yourself that tory’s are any differant.

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