Speaking to reporters at a break during a security conference in Montreal, [director of CSIS] Judd was asked if Canadians were in Iraq fighting against the American-led coalition. “Yes, I believe so,” he said.
He said there weren’t many, “we’re talking single digit numbers.” But he said “we’re aware of several others who are contemplating leaving.”
When asked if CSIS, or the government, could do anything to prevent people from joining the insurgency Judd said he didn’t think there was anything legally that could be done.
And on the other…
Nothing like having a couple thousand US Marines stay in the crapiest conditions in the world and then take the leash off of them and tell them to hunt down scumbags!! WOW!! I think it should be declared a holiday�� what to name it??��� Freedom day?� Naa���.. Christmas?��� nope, that ones taken (but fitting)��. Monky Stomp Monday?���nice ring to it���..how about�.. � Come to your house and blow your stinking camel licking carcass into small pieces so small we will be able to bury your sorry butt in a thimble����day???????? Kinda short but I like it!
Canadian terrorists head to Iraq – one of those happy little problems that comes with its own solution.
HA
Kinda sounds like having a lemming infestation problem in a town called Kate’s Bluff…..
And the PMO was aghast that he said anything.
When Anne Coulter calls the american liberals traitors, at first it was amusing and over the top. Now i can see the reality.
These Liberals and liberals in Canada have destroyed our military, have aligned us with despotic regimes and keep Canada on a path to irrelevancy.
Traitors and treason seems the right words.
enough
Watch the left when one of those “canadians” is shot by an American or allied soldier. Boy did this story get buried by the MSM.
Boy did this story get buried by the MSM
Um, doesn’t the CBC count as part of the “MSM”. That’s where Kate got the story. It was also picked up by the entire Sun chain, the Montreal Gazette, etc. And it’s barely been 12 hours since Judd made his statement. Sorry, didn’t mean to intrude on any latest “MSM” conspiracy theories but I think you’ll have to go elsewhere for “evidence” of the Vast Left Wing Media Conspiracy this time.
And, BTW, from the point of view of this moonbat, a terrorist is a terrorist, whether he or she was born and grew up in Saudi Arabia (like most of them it seems) or Canada. No special treatment if you are out there trying to kill innocent people.
TB
Cerberus
They are probably the guys working for Reuters on the other side, complaining that “journalists” get target – facing a video camera looks a lot like facing an RPG.
Doomsday Scenario for Canadians: Tora! Tora! Tora!( Pearl Harbour, Dec 7, 1941). Surprise: tora means: Tigers. Tamil Tigers are your buddies, right, AdScam Martin? Tigers give Librano$ money in exchange for secure haven. Would/could Islamist Terrorists launch an attack on the U.S. from Canada? You betcha!>>>
Lapierre has sleepless night; nightmares? No wonder Martin looks demented.>>>>
Tuesday Aug 30, 2005 rci Canada’s transport, Jean Lapierre, says he at times spends sleepless nights worrying about the repercussions from an attack against the U.S. that was launched from Canada. Mr. Lapierre says that if ever such an attack occurred, the Americans would close the border for several years, wreaking huge economic damage on the economy of their northern neighbour. >>>
http://www.wednesday-night.com/canada-vs-us.asp
Ah, yes.
A few Canadian terrorists going to take on British Commandos and US Marines. Definitely a self-correcting problem, and a fine example of Darwinism at work. 😉
Mad Mike
Glad to hear it was in the Sun. When I looked on-line, I didn’t see anything but I was skimming. Still, haven’t seen it on CBC or CTV this a.m., but again, maybe they’ve buried it at the bottom of the newscast instead of the top, as it was last night.
Wonder how the new GG will respond to non-confidence motions that the Libs are thinking of ignoring, given their role as the TRULY NATURAL GOVERNING PARTY?
Kate,
Thanks for the link to the Marine blog. It’s new to me and an excellent read.
Doug
Canukistan is still the best place to park the wife & kids, ( on welfare), when you go off to do Jihad. (After the taxpayers pay your legal expenses to stay in the country, of course.)
Shouldn’t “truly natural governing party” read “truly permanent governing party”?
why we join the USA – same values, same language, same highways, no second or first nation.
Now, what is the Liberal regime doing about the Islamist murderous terrorists in Canada? Has the Liberal regime been co-opted by Islamist terrorists? >>>>
Ottawa confirms Canadian insurgents
in Iraq
by Romeo St. Martin
[PoliticsWatch Updated 3:45 p.m. October 21, 2005]
OTTAWA � Public Security Minister Anne McLellan could not say Friday how exactly Canada will deal with Canadian citizens who are participating in or planning to join the insurgency against U.S. Forces in Iraq.
The head of CSIS, James Judd, made headlines on Friday after he told reporters at a security conference in Montreal that there are a small number of Canadians who are participating in the insurgency against U.S. Forces in Iraq and “several others who are contemplating leaving. >>>
http://www.politicswatch.com/iraq-oct21-2005.htm
Canada: Unable to do Anything About its Citizens Fighting America
Kate McMillan at Small Dead Animals points to a story that very well shows the moral paralysis that has overtaken some of our friends: Canadians taking part in Iraqi insurgency: CSIS head The head of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service…
When Carolyn Parrish calls it a day, what else is a Mississauga-Erindale constituent to do?
Self-correcting indeed. Let the correcting begin!
Cdn Terrorists Go to Iraq to Fight America; Libera
This is unacceptable as it demonstrates once again how the ruling Paul Martin Liberals do not care at all about appropriately dealing with Canadian citizens and others who would be terrorists or even those who have or are currently engaged in acts of…
WRT Cerberus’ Oct. 21, 12:00 post above, I wish to congratulate this Liberal for shaking free of the binding ropes of political correctness and stating that a terrorist is a terrorist regardless of nationality. That’s the sort of language I wish the ruling Paul Martin Liberals would use and act upon.
Click on the trackback at the bottom of the post, for I have trackbacked to a post of my own on this very issue. Check it out for my take.
Or, if unfamiliar w/ “trackback”, just copy and paste this:
http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2005/10/cdn-terrorists-go-to-iraq-to-fight.html
Salim Mansur- a new day has dawned
Never before — anywhere in the Arab world — has a population participated freely and willingly in the shaping of its government as Iraqis are doing — despite the tremendous violence directed against them by bloody-minded insurgents. Never, in the 1,400 years of Islam, has an Arab-Muslim despot been brought into a court of justice to answer for crimes of rape, torture and murder of people under him.
This is a uniquely riveting moment in Arab-Muslim history, and everyone in the region is mesmerized by the events occurring in Iraq. >> more
http://www.rapp.org/url/?DUXIQY3V
torontosun
posted by newsbeat1 at 11:11 AM
Little Fannie Annie steps up to the plate: Toronto Sun, Oct. 22, “Canuck insurgents beware: Could face terror raps upon return from Iraq”
http://www.ottawasun.com/News/National/2005/10/22/1273401-sun.html
Excerpt:
‘”Quite clearly these people are in Iraq. What might happen to them in terms if they chose to try to return to this country, we will deal with that situation when it arises and we will deal with it on a case-by-case basis,” said McLellan, who wouldn’t get into specifics.
“Our opinion is the people who go there and participate in various acts of violence are terrorists. If they choose to try and return home, we will determine, to the fullest extent of the law possible, how we deal with them and how we protect the safety of Canadians.”‘
That will both deter and scare them. I’m sure the US forces in Iraq feel safer.
Mark
Ottawa
And a letter just sent to Ed Broadbent:
‘Dear Mr Broadbent,
I was astonished to read the following about you, my MP and a parliamentarian of great experience:
‘NDP MP Ed Broadbent meanwhile said there is nothing that can legally be done about Canadians who partake or who plan to partake in terrorist activities abroad.
“I know of no Canadian law they would be breaking, so there would be no justification for arresting them,” Broadbent said.
Broadbent said if the insurgents have “not violated any Canadian laws and have gone back to their own country in opposition to a war the UN itself is opposed to they won’t be violating any laws that I’m aware of.”‘
http://www.politicswatch.com/iraq-oct21-2005.htm
May I refer you to the following sections of the Criminal Code of Canada? Please tell me how these do not allow prosecution for those who “partake or who plan to partake in terrorist activities abroad”.
‘Terrorism offence committed outside Canada
(3.74) Notwithstanding anything in this Act or any other Act, every one who commits an act or omission outside Canada that, if committed in Canada, would be a terrorism offence, other than an offence under section 83.02 or an offence referred to in paragraph (a) of the definition “terrorist activity” in subsection 83.01(1), is deemed to have committed that act or omission in Canada if the person
(a) is a Canadian citizen;
(b) is not a citizen of any state and ordinarily resides in Canada; or
(c) is a permanent resident within the meaning of subsection 2(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and is, after the commission of the act or omission, present in Canada.’
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-46/41663.html
…
PART II.1
TERRORISM
…
83.01(1)(b) [“terrorist activity” means] an act or omission, in or outside Canada,
(i) that is committed
(A) in whole or in part for a political, religious or ideological purpose, objective or cause, and
(B) in whole or in part with the intention of intimidating the public, or a segment of the public, with regard to its security, including its economic security, or compelling a person, a government or a domestic or an international organization to do or to refrain from doing any act, whether the public or the person, government or organization is inside or outside Canada, and
(ii) that intentionally
(A) causes death or serious bodily harm to a person by the use of violence,
(B) endangers a person’s life,
(C) causes a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or any segment of the public,
(D) causes substantial property damage, whether to public or private property, if causing such damage is likely to result in the conduct or harm referred to in any of clauses (A) to (C), or
(E) causes serious interference with or serious disruption of an essential service, facility or system, whether public or private, other than as a result of advocacy, protest, dissent or stoppage of work that is not intended to result in the conduct or harm referred to in any of clauses (A) to (C),
and includes a conspiracy, attempt or threat to commit any such act or omission, or being an accessory after the fact or counselling in relation to any such act or omission, but, for greater certainty, does not include an act or omission that is committed during an armed conflict and that, at the time and in the place of its commission, is in accordance with customary international law or conventional international law applicable to the conflict, or the activities undertaken by military forces of a state in the exercise of their official duties, to the extent that those activities are governed by other rules of international law.’
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-46/41918.html
Regards,
Mark Collins’
I hope you were being ironic, Mark, about Annie Mc’s words serving as a deterrent to Cdn would-be Jihadists abroad or planning to go abroad.
BTW, Annie’s Fannie ain’t all that little. Ain’t too many skinny Librano fat cats, are there, now?
Ohhh, Annie get her gun now. Blow me away fer saying her ass’s big. Up there with the gopher with me!
As for old Eddie B., I guess he’s just more proof that lefties know not whereof they speak.
I can’t believe I accepted Broadbent’s words. He’s supposed to have all that credibility and stuff. Guess it’s just a trumped-up image…
And, thanks, Mark, for providing the appropriate passages from the Criminal Code for our education. WLM Redux is away hunting so it’s up to you for the next little while. You do good research.
Canadian Sentinel: Thanks, but nowhere near as good as Angry in the Great White North:
http://angrygwn.mu.nu/archives/128030.php#more
Mark
Ottawa
Mark:….”Broadbent said if the insurgents have “not violated any Canadian laws and have gone back to their own country in opposition to a war the UN itself is opposed to they won’t be violating any laws that I’m aware of.” http://www.politicswatch.com/iraq-oct21-2005.htm
How incredibly disappointing that the so-called-leaders of these country (McLellan, Broadbent, Judd, other MPs) all seem so wishy-washy when it comes to providing potential solutions to this situation.
Thanks Mark for sending the letter.
Thank you Mark for the legal mumbo jumpo!
As a world war two vet, I am completely devistated to think that “Canadians” are now killing Canadians! I can’t believe I just wrote that.
If these headchoppers were going off-shore to kill the French would I be writing this. I am positive the Fuehor would have legislation in place to stop it and the headchoppers arrested at the Airports.
This should not surprise me, being that the Librano$ have shown me how EVIL and CRUEL and completely CORRUPT they are when they allow, and condone Canadians dying in the health care line ups, so why not kill us overseas?
The only consolation I can drum up on this is thank God the Canadian war heros of wars past are dead so they can’s see what they died for, the building of a sesspool of a nation that is not respected by any of the worlds decent nations, and only the Despots of the world now that Kanada has joined the world of the insane Despots.
Herr Martin is a savage beast, and evil, and anyone that votes for him has to be evil and a beast, so this next election will tell me just how many beasts and the evil we are rubbing shoulders with on the side walks of Kanada.
After 50 years of the Marxist media enabling the Ottawa Mafiosa Librano$ too many Canadians have turned into lap dogs, and will take any kind of “beating” the Librano$ put on to them for fear of what? Their pay cheques, that are dwindling down every year so that the Librano$ end up getting most of our hard earned money, and with no return. We can’t even have a military or a justice system or health care that we deserve, and yet the followers of the Librano$ take it, “yes masta, no masta, I give you more money masta”, it is out and out shameful, and disgusting what too many Canadians have turned into. However the smart Canadians are getting the hell out of here, and so are the immigrants, and when the immigrants are fed up with this corrupt Country and leaving we have a problem. go to notcanada.com they have a legitimate beef big time.
The “screemer” Mclennon and Herr Martin are liars but then we already know that, however they keep on proving to us day after day that they are humungous liars, and this lates lie has all previous lies beat in spades.
“Can’t do anything about it” they say, however if was killing the French as I said woud they be saying the same thing? Like hell.
The Librano$ for 50 years have tried to swing Canada into the folds of Charac, and the UN and it looks like they have just about succeeded, this next election will tell us if we are going to remain Canadian, or will become a Province of FRANCE. And this out and out lie, and charade that the Bloc is going through is just a diversion to keep the conversation away from the real problems in Fascist land, the Bloc know that it is just a matter of time and like Trudea said during the referendum, Quebec will have all of Canada if they just have patience.
My vet friends are just as shook up as I am and if the dead vets could come out of their graves they would be holding their rifles and marching on Fascist Ottawa, but there are not enough of us left to do that, that are alive, though we would if we could, and they know it.
Any wonder now why the Fascists want to take our guns?
I am waiting for the first American (albiet probably a goof) will kill off a Canadian Tourist in revenge of Canadians in Iraq killing Americans, and that could very well happen.
It will be interesting to see how seriously Stephen takes this, will he “ring the bells” or boycott Question Period, which is a cruel expensive joke at the best of times, I call it the LIARS DEN! However more than words have to apply here, words are cheap and an excuse I want to see ACTION!
Well at 77 plus this is the most devistating event in Canadian history that I have witnessed, I thought the outgrage would be more, another site that I posted this on (Canadian) yesterday did not deserve one response, mostly Librano$ on the site, but even the right wingers are silent, are they numb?
I pitty the young that have to go through life with this bunch of corrupted thugs and traitors in Ottawa, I won’t be around much longer to see it, a blessing in disguise!
Stepnen Parksville BC ww 2 vet.
stephenmichaud: Hang in there please. The country needs you. But I think you do exaggerate the French plot. They are not plotting, we are expiring on our own…unless we simply start asserting who we are. Without, save justification, attacking others.
The fault, dear Canadians, lies not in our stars but in ourselves. We are in a democracy. The vote is there. Take it and convince others.
Mark
Ottawa
Mark, your right, we have a “two second” democracy, the time it takes to mark the X, and that is the end of our Democracy for another cruel mandate.
Your right about another thing, the votes are out there for change, but how do we get them to the polls? if they are not beat down hard enough by now, will they ever be?, and with the millions that the Fuehor buys votes with, the many special interest groups that are in his pocket AAAAAND the big one, the MSM who are firmly in his pocket,he is nearly holding all the Ace’s. Would it would work if we had a couple of Billion dollars, get a list of all those that didn’t vote in the last election, and give them all one hundred thousand dollars to vote, we might get them off their ass, which would be no where near what the special interest groups get paid by the Fuehor to guarantee THEIR vote, where do we get the money? Saving the country, and building it for our kids seems to make no never mind to around 40 percent of the population. Iraq has a heavier turnout to vote with the threat of death over their heads if they do, we can’t get in a warm car that will drive us to the polling boothes for free, with no one shooting at us, or running a car bomb into us or threatening our family with death if we vote.
Historians will make a fortune in future years writing Canadians history showing those future generations what a bunch of complete fools Canadians were in the 19th 20th and 21st centuries, that we let a gang of hoods take our country away from us without any kind of a fight, let alone vote.
“Those that do not heed the lessons of history will tend to repeat it”, and we are repeating history to our peril, but worse, to our kids peril, we are taking them down the drain with us.
Stephen. Parksville. BC. ww2 vet.
Thought this should be known.
Critiqueing the Communists Bullshitting Canadians tonite, they had back to back hour long programs on “Hate America,”. The first was old Viet Nam movies showing those baby eating Americans burning down straw huts, failing to mention the very huts that the Viet Cong were using as “safe houses” and they made sure we could see the “war monger” American uniform lighting the roof.
The second hour were old movies about the Liberation of Iraq, and having the guts to flogg the disgraced DAAANN RAATHER, that was schpeeling his usual anti war garbage, and making sure they repeated time and again that “this was an illegal war” except there were over thirty five other countries of the world that say it is a legal war, as the UN says in their resolutions, but not from the words of the Anti Christ Onnan.
It is the build up to have Americans shown in the worst of all bad lights, so that when the first Canadian headchopper kills an American, we are supposed the CHEER!, “DEATH TO THE YANKEE PIGS! It will be interesting to see what the reaction will be when a Canadian headchopper kills the first Canadian trooper in Kandahar, which I think has better odds than killing Americans in Iraq, as Agganastan is where the headchopppers training grounds are, and Kanadahar is close by, and these guys speak English and can disguise themselves in the crowd.
Yes the Communists Bullshitting Canadians are back in full swing, getting into THIER war effort!
You ask me they should all be whare-housed because they sound and look certifiable to me!
Stephen Parksville BC ww 2 vet.