Featured Comment

SDA regular ‘ET’ shared some brilliant thoughts this morning. Everyone should carefully think about what she had to say:

Is it just that the population have chosen ‘communism’ or that the population are so manipulated that they really are not choosing but instead are pawns in an enormous power-grab?

When the power, and it is a power, to run a nation moved from the control of an hereditary aristocracy, into the control of ‘the people’ – then, those-who-want-this-power moved to How Do We Control The People and make them, the one day of every few years, Vote Us In Power?

And so- the brainwashing and manipulation of The People began – to ensure that One Day of Voting ensured that our new Elites – were in power [and the wealth that results from this power]. Simple. They took control of socialization – in the schools, in the local governments – by funding these institutions. So, the curriculum has to follow The Ideology [think of censored books, of required ‘sex education classes’ etc]. And, these governments took control of the media [think of Trudeau funding Canadian media if and only if they support Liberal policies]. And – dividing the population into separate ‘Identity Blocs’ – and making these populations adversarial to each other and dependent on govt funds [this is a huge tactic of the US Democrats].

What’s new in this strategy to control the people – in their One Day of Voting? Well, they’ve controlled the schools and the media; they’ve made huge sections of the population dependent on government funds – so, what about the actual process of voting? In Canada, the people are further made irrelevant by our Charter, with its bilingualism law, that renders at least 80% and more of the population unable to play any role in government – and, our electoral system that puts the most MPs in the big cities – where all the government-dependent population live.

In the US – it seems that they’ve moved to sabotage the actual electronic method of voting!! This was almost inevitable – given the Fact that Trump represented – not the Elite – but, indeed, The People. Trump was and is, a fight by The People to take back power from the Elite in Washington. [Canada doesn’t have such a movement and isn’t even close to realizing how trapped-as-peasants Canadians are]… And so, the Elite in Washington have fought back – for four bloody years. Everything from riots to Mueller to impeachment to ..daily 95% media attacks to….Endless. And then, came The Vote. Of course they sabotaged it.

So- the question is: Will the People allow their rights to govern – be abandoned and handed over to an Elite in Washington? How will they fight for democracy? Canadians simply ignore – grab the CERB – and ignore the debt.

84 Replies to “Featured Comment”

  1. What it is going to come down to is courage. Will the U.S. Supreme Court have enough gumption to overturn an obviously fake election. If they do not, every future election will be fake. It would also be nice to see the main perpetrators of the fraud spend 20 years in jail. There is no worse crime than treason.

    1. Treason is a capital crime. The punishment is execution. Therefore it’s a really high bar to get a conviction. Sedition is a lower bar.

    1. Watching what is happening in Manitoba right now I have to agree.

      The land of Riel has forgotten the price of freedom.

      Freedom or safety most will opt for safety.

    2. The “fix” has been in for quite some time now.

      I think that the last time we had an honest election in Canada was likely just after WWII.
      By the time we left the Chief and embraced Pearson, said fix was in….I’m not sure exactly what dates we went socialized Medicine, Unionized Public Service and started hearing about Maurice Strong…ALL those events were True bellwether in nature and what came after – came easy. Much of it thanx to a Publicly Paid Broadcaster with Left leaning ideology in mind – they being the original SJW’s at the time….and their “social engineering”. ALL Furthered on by the election of the Communist, Trudeau Senior who gave us Equalization – more $$ for Quebec – bi Linguialism and a Bullshit Constitution with no teeth.

      The TERM “SHEEP” to describe Canadians is entirely in keeping with the times. CovId has showcased that to a TEE. All freaking out over a computer modelled # of “cases”. Unreal

      1. Along those lines.. One thing I think I really underestimated was just how sheepish far too many Canadians have become. As the Covid case counts rise way out east here, you can see the local message boards start practically BEGGING government to enact a lockdown. None of that pesky freedom for us, no sir, lock us down! Good and hard! Oh yeah, let us have it! Fines and prosecutions and snitch lines, give it to us all! We don’t want responsibility for our selves, lock us up for our own good!

        Disgusting. Canadians have no stomach for real freedom any more. I knew this. Maybe I’ve just been denying it. This country isn’t worth spit any more.

      2. pierre also gave us multiculturism which was designed to weaken the fabric of Canada and create hyphenated Canadians and
        junior is trying to build on commie daddy’s legacy with his diversity and open border plans.

        1. “junior is trying to build on commie daddy’s legacy”

          Build, I doubt it. Zoolander is just the party mascot.
          If brains were fuel, …Zoolander wouldn’t have enough juice to power a Mickey Mouse Go-Cart around the inside of a Cheerio.

  2. ” . . . or that the population are so manipulated that they really are not choosing but instead are pawns in an enormous power-grab?”

    The interfaces of the apps on your smartphone were designed by psychologists, the same psychologists who design slot machines, in order to get you to click/tap when and where they want you to.
    The difference is that slot machines are actually inspected by third parties for honesty.
    I leave it as an exercise for the student as to how this could be applied to voting. I assume you have already done your assignment to read Bernays.

  3. The population is easily manipulated, clearly, thanks to the Mockingbird Media.

    For some reason, people believe a voice in a suit, on TV, speaking authoritatively, and sometimes a pretty face, would never lie, distort, or omit, facts and relevant information. Its a default belief system, most people blindly think “Why would they ever lie?” Million$$$$$ of reasons why. We see that today across the mediotic spectrum, rampant propaganda and distortions are SOP for our corrupt corporate media.

    And people swallow the tripe by the bucketload.

    Even in a “crisis” as Covid, people are cowed and manipulated, easily, by fear and paranoia, with a good dose of omitted information. Example, Bonnie says “a 30 year old just died of Covid, beware!” Was he overweight, diabetic, asthmatic, or had another morbid disease??? No facts allowed, just fearmongering by health authorities

    1. “Even in a “crisis” . . .”

      People in crisis are more easily manipulated, by orders of magnitude. Advertising is designed to provoke anxiety; anxiety which can be relieved by doing what the ad suggests that you do.

    2. Do you thing that any of the talking heads would survive past the last word they said on a public forum, press, tv or radio that would contradicts the prescribed dicktat (sic) ?

      Methinks not.

    1. I don’t thing that George’s description of the USA applies to Canada. Over 20% of those employed in Canada work in the public sector. They are “in it” and will never be critical of “it”. Then there are the three territories and over 620 “First Nations”, which are almost entirely dependent on subsidies from federal taxpayers. Their only one criticism is: give us more money (but don’t ask any questions). Then there are the four Atlantic provinces – highly dependent on government jobs and unemployment insurance payments coming from elsewhere in Canada. Then there is Quebec, like the territories and First Nations, its major complaint is: give us more money, and we want all the federal public sector jobs. The “Big Club” in Canada is much bigger, proportionately, than it is in the USA , and getting ever bigger, and that club doesn’t ever want to make any fundamental changes to how we are governed.

      1. Agree – Canada has a huge proportion of its population in the public sector [made up of the public service, the various created dependents of indigenous, ethnicities etc] – and they live in the four big cities: Toronto; Ottawa-Hull, Montreal and Vancouver. These cities have the most MPs – and therefore – if a political tribe ‘wins’ these cities, then, they run the government…and couldn’t care less that they have no MPs in the entire West.
        And, as you say, this is the ‘Big Club’ in Canada – and it’s huge – far, far larger than any productive private business class.

  4. I find the media narrative unbelievable naive. That now includes Fox News. “Unless you show us (ME) the evidence, there is no evidence. This is all a sideshow!” I have many friends I used to think were between smart and brilliant. They have “drunk the ‘Kool-aid’.” What can a person do given outright evidence of fraud from a multitude of different sources, and your friends just repeat the media line…”There is no real evidence.” Has society really become that blind to truth and honesty?
    As a young person, I was taught that people will have different opinions. I was also taught that if one holds a certain opinion, and EVERYONE around holds the opposite, one may need to re-evaluate his/her backing evidence for the opinion. Yet today, I find that I seem to hold opinions that are labelled “alt-right” (I thought I was a centrist!), and discounted as crazy thought!

    1. Well, think about it. The media has accomplished Goebbels narrative, “Tell a lie often enough, it becomes the truth”
      The media has appointed itself as THE arbiters of TRUTH. PERIOD.
      The sheep have been manipulated to believe without question.
      We are further down the rabbit hole than what we want to believe.

  5. One has to possess intelligence and have been free, to understand what has been done. You all know my opinion of the intellectual capabilities of the average Canadian voter.

  6. How will they fight for democracy? The same way they fought for the Magna Carta and the American Constitution. A country that has an estimated 400 million privately owned firearms did not elect a candidate that advocates for a confiscation of guns and that, you can take to the bank. America is the last bastion of freedom and the Tree of Liberty will be nourished either by the blood of despots or the blood of patriots the true results of this election will dictate which it will be.

  7. I might be pushing my luck here but here goes……

    The ruling class has ceased to even pretend to be part of our traditional culture. By treating the right as inferiors, the left have renounced their common bond with us. They no longer even try to persuade us; they have set about to compel our obedience. Mask wearing, social distancing, political correctness: these are all designed to break the conventional social bonds. The outright theft of the U.S. election represents their boldest move to date and, if they succeed it will only embolden them even further, in what way we can only guess. But it will not end well.

    For 60 years or more years this class of rulers has grown ever more socially and intellectually powerful and ever more opposed to accepted standards of morality or respectability. This happened as they took it upon themselves to construct the twin pillars of egalitarianism: income redistribution and racial harmonization.

    Increasingly, they claim to be experts because they had graduated from the fount of all knowledge: the universities. These graduates – who are nothing if not little missionaries for the progressive movement – now comprise over a third of adult Americans. Naturally, they are proponents of The State as the vehicle to the New World Order. This does not mean that Big Business plays no role in this new order. No siree. Big Business and Big Government are now working hand in hand to achieve the goals of the elites: universal obedience.

    Some people try to soft pedal this by calling it corporatism. But the truth is that it is closer to outright fascism:

    “ALL WITHIN THE STATE, NOTHING OUTSIDE THE STATE, NOTHING AGAINST THE STATE.”
    By November 2016 Donald Trump’s surprising victory proved to be the catalyst for the Big Business/Big State oligarchy to organize itself into something that was able to circumvent the American Constitution and, if that were not enough, to even penalize constitutionalists. And who are these fearsome constitutionalists and what do they believe?

    “Constitutionalism proclaims the desirability of the rule of law as opposed to rule by the arbitrary judgment or mere fiat of public officials . The concept of constitutionalism is that in political society government officials are not free to do anything they please in any manner they choose; they are bound to observe both the limitations on power and the procedures which are set out in the supreme, constitutional law of the community. It may therefore be said that the touchstone of constitutionalism is the concept of limited government under a higher law.” (Wiki)

    It has been made clear to the elites that Trump is dangerous – very dangerous. So, the ruling class, having determined this, sought to resist him by dispiriting and demonizing his supporters.

    The Trump supporters’ big mistake was to suppose that was all the ruling class wanted was just to destroy Trump. But their real objective was to destroy Trump’s “deplorables.”

    When the coronavirus emerged, the ruling class seized the terms “Pandemic” and plague” to fear-monger as a means to crush the social bonds of rank and file citizens through social isolation.

    What can we do about this? First, we must stated clearly and plainly that we are in a state of war with the ruling class. Second, we must realize that nothing can or will be done about it until the average citizen realizes that the left hates us and means to harm them socially and morally. We have irreconcilable differences. Further, the establishment wants to eliminate conventional civilized culture. And if (God forbid!) they eventually determine that we are incorrigible to progressive values they might want to actually eliminate us.

    The time to act is now. Carpe Diem!

    1. “…But their real objective was to destroy Trump’s “deplorables.”…”
      Like one of Trump’s best ads…”They’re not coming for me, they’re coming for you – I’m just in the way”
      So true, so true.

    2. Agree – the Elite are quite upset that ‘The People’ have ‘risen’ and are no longer passive. And no longer willing to knee-jerk vote the Elite back into power.

      Notice how the Elite/Democrats are very upset at any and all black voters who support Trump; they, as you say, demonize them; they declare that these people are not ‘really black’!!
      And yes – the pandemic has been used by the Elite to fear-monger the people, by attributing it, not merely to Trump – but even hiding the true statistics of its effects.

      Either the people rule themselves [government of, by, for, the people] – or – we openly acknowledge that we live in an oligarchy and have no rights.

    3. Blackfox, Not sure why you expressed some trepidation about stating your thoughts in your post, I think you are on the money. There is unfortunately so many rough threads to this whole thing, one would need to write a book instead of a lengthy post. I guess we just have to find some limit on expressing out thoughts, it’s just difficult to encapsulate the whole spectrum of this Pandora’s box that is under discussion. Being old, and almost computer illiterate, I have no idea how to re-post my own similar thoughts on another thread here in SDA.
      Please read my reply to Kenji’s post in the one below this thread, titled, “Are fair elections really to much to expect in America in 2020?” My post is about five down from the top and was posted at 3.32 pm today. It’s really the same Pandora, just my limited ability to express my thoughts in a somewhat tortuous fashion.

      1. GerryK: my only trepidation is that I don’t want my comment to be so long that I could credibly accused of being a windbag and of abusing the privilege of commenting here. At 81 years of age and with frontal lobes failing, I find that my normal tendency to restrain my impulses is diminishing daily.

        As to re-posting your thoughts: just copy and paste.

        Thanks for your kind comment and that thanks goes out to everyone else, too.

    4. “…they might want to actually eliminate us.” I suggest that that IS their end point, “de-population” on a massive scale. Read up on Agenda 21. Maurice Strong et al have laid it all out for you, unabashedly. “Sustainable development” is their mantra. The only way SD gets implemented is via a whole lot of dead people, to end up “sustainable”….a pipe dream. Abortion was a start, now they’ll “vaccinate” you and yours, forcibly if necessary, if coercion doesn’t work or achieve the desired result. “Deplorables” first. Wrong think will send you to the Gulag. A form of that is currently in practice in China today.

  8. Short answer is probably both – manipulated and dumbed down quite sufficiently. I’ve given a lot of thought to this as well and sadly I’ve concluded that many are quite jiggy with socialism and along with it a borderless world with one central gov’t.
    Here’s a litmus test for most Canadian Liberals if you can get them to be honest with you for a minute or two, no small feat in itself. Give them a little booze to loosen up their tongue.
    How would you describe yourself – a citizen of the world or a citizen of Canada?
    Nine out of ten will without hesitation pick the first option.

    Canada has effectively been neutered and are ready to be shorn like sheep the result of putting our trust in those who ultimately stabbed us in the back and a generation of halfwits that were it not for velcro would have trouble tying their own shoes.

    Pray that Trump pulls it off because he’s the only one standing in their way now.

    1. That was an exceptional film…LUCas’ first I believe..??

      Far far ahead of its time…
      Getting busted for drug evasion – imagine that..??
      In PM Dickspanks preferred future…? I can.

      1. I believe it was his first movie after he finished university and it was quite well done. He paid homage to it in American Graffiti, using the title as the license plate number for the vehicle driven by Harrison Ford’s character in that film.

        What you describe is very much like what’s in store for us in the immediate future:

        – we’ll be arrested and imprisoned if we don’t take the mandated (made-in-China) vaccine,
        – every move we make will be observed and recorded,
        – we will be assigned our living quarters and who we will live with, and
        – we will be working at bland jobs serving the state.

  9. Something I ask people who blithely refer to Canada as a “socialist” nation is to define socialim.
    Most refer in broad strokes such as “social programs” “kindness” “caring” “fairness” etc.

    My reply is 7 words. “The government owns the means of production” – which is to say the state controls all.

    Then ask – So would you define Canada as a socialist nation now? And do you want it to be?
    Answer is always no – but I guarantee they will vote left again.
    Media brainwashing is almost impossible to reverse.

    A quote attributred to Twain captures it perfectly

    “It is easier to fool a person than to convince them they have been fooled”

    1. Yes – isn’t it incredible; how most people haven’t a clue what ‘socialism’ economically and politically actually means. Equally – they have no idea what capitalism means – heck – kindness and caring are human – not economic- attributes and found within a capitalist economic mode as well.

      1. My sister in CA posted a meme rationalizing that socialism has given people so much with institutions that help us, like CDC, FEMA, and other assorted bastions of freedom and prosperity. You’re right, most people haven’t a clue what socialism really is, where revolutionaries engineer the failure of the state where they can serve as rescuers, with short-term good times soon replaced by long term depravation and shared misery, except for the corrupt elites of course.

        I didn’t have the heart to tell here these all resulted from civil society, not statism, or socialism yet to be fully implemented.

        But the obvious calculation to me is statism shifts to socialism because it benefits the administrative and ruling class (both artificial constructs not resembling society), institutions become inconvenient and therefore cease to exist, and as transactions of decline drive down productivity, thus wealth, thus wages, as statism becomes chauvinistic, you will yourself without the means, guaranteed or otherwise that you thought would be assured, like health care, a stable job market, productive investment, your free speech, your liberty, your prosperity and ultimately your safety.

        Germans exercising rights to free speech and assembly are met with water cannons, not assurances or explanations.

        That is the Great Reset, society reordered, reimagined by ignorant, incompetent plutarchs like Trudeau and Biden.

        Get in their way and they’ll watercannon you if they can’t shut you up. Next they’ll ruin and jail you. Cowardly New World.

        1. Exactly – these benefits to the people are due to ‘civic society’ – not socialism!
          And note – how the ‘progressives’ are against free speech, declaring that if it ‘upsets’ someone, then it shouldn’t be allowed! That means – no analysis, no criticism – just passive acceptance.

    2. And direct ownership isn’t necessary to produce that end. Look at the permitting and licensing required for any large scale employer. You are only allowed to be productive (at the large scale) when are where governing bodies allow. That’s how standards and requirements applied (by the Feds) to mega-projects in Alberta do not apply to cement plants in Quebec.

    1. What if the election was fraudulent and unconstitutional?
      The SCOTUS is obliged to protect the rights of the people under the Constitution.

    2. Hey “h”, did you know that the US is a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC? Clearly, no.

      It’s not a “democracy” and never has been defined as that.

      That’s a DeMarxist talking point. Now be quiet, adults are talking.

    3. Yes. How dare the highest court in the land insists that an election is conducted legally and, if it wasn’t, using the law as it exists to arrive at a solution. (sarcasm = off)

    4. “The SCOTUS overturning an election”

      Wrong, Biden was not “elected”. He and his minions are in the process of trying to Steal the election with Fraud.

    5. The football analogy comes to mind. The home team is down 17-31 with 1 minute left in the game. The home team announces that the rules have changed, and that they now receive one point for each yard they gain. The referee agrees that the home team can do that. The home team declares victory after a first down and running the clock out, final score 42-31.

      The visiting team appeals to the commissioner. You’re saying the referee’s ruling on the field stands, and that the visiting team has no grounds for appeal or are being poor-sports. Can you see how we think less of you for buying into the home team’s “win”?

      If you don’t see why the analogy is apt, you need to read more of the posts under this heading.

  10. The ideology, if there is one, appears to be concentration of wealth and power into as few hands as possible, so yes, if left unchecked, a HiTech feudalism without the noblesse oblige, unless it presents an opportunity to skim. The take away from the 2020 election is that Working People, Middle America, Main Street don’t matter. Consider the tsunami of hate that has occurred and will continue to occur toward Working America since President Zeros election. It has been a non stop barrage of derogatory insults, inflammatory accusations and demeaning ridicule. In the public space, there has been no push back at all, just avidness to jump on the bandwagon and reinforce the lies. The minions wouldn’t be doing that if the Normies had any clout. They work for the Man not you. Remember they were willing to crash the economy and do untolled damage to working America, including minority businesses, while many of their peeps were insulated from the consequences. They do not wish Middle America well, in any way, any more than their Chinese mentors.
    They are supported by their, what I call Minions, many of whom are on the take, in one way or another, by way of the revolving door between government agencies, media, private and public businesses, foundations, charities, lobbying, law and public relations firms, NGOs, universities……………including the Pentagon. Their credentials are kowtowing and networking. In additioon. those who can count on a federal, state, county, or municipal paycheck directly or indirectly, such as public sector workers, municipal vendors and contractors; media (incl sports and entertainment) and academia; foundations; multinationals and the people whose livelihood comes out of globalism or are employed in the distribution of third world consumer goods, like Amazon or big box stores; financialists; the creative and the gifted; the trust fund babies; and, of course, RINOS. They will all be fine. For their chumps, they can count on an army of easily manipulated, shallow, and histrionic soap opera women (and men). They voted Trump persona and style over policy and substance, and even over their own self interest.

    Think about the possibility that there is a major realignment working its way through the system. The current public intellectual to make this case is Yuval Harari. I have not read his book, all I know about it comes from a half dozen lectures and interviews he has participated in on YouTube. My take is that it does not bode well for the people in the Middle, or their values, as their power and numbers decline due to contracting employment opportunities. This explains why the Dems had no reluctance to dump Labor, with the exception of public sector unions. If you are an American Working person, your attachment to those Industrial Revolution values of hard work, thrift, accountability, diligence, in tandem with your reliance on Math, Grammar, and experimental Science along with your belief in the Bill of Rights, the rule of law, limited government, fundamental fairness, is at best quaint, and antiquated More importantly this, coupled with your attachment to a national identity (borders), is an serious obstacle that stands in the way of the skimming class imposition of a top down supranational-government agencies and courts. The question is will American middle class values prove to be resilient or archaic in the post industrial economy.

  11. Hi Kate : I somewhat hesitantly sent my friend Jim H at TGP One of your articles . He answered back immediately ! “ I know Kate at Small Dead Animals “ ! Small world ! Keep up the great work !

  12. Antenor – I hope that the fight for democracy doesn’t become ‘who has the most fire-power’. Trump, remember, focuses on Law and Order. So far, it’s the Left that moves instantly to brute force and riots – and – looting [note: AOC is firmly in support of looting].

    I fully agree with you – both the Magna Carta and the US Independence were wars of The People vs The Elite.
    And the US is in the very same situation now – a battle between an Elite in Washington, fiercely adamantly determined to hold onto to power – against The People. Contemptuous and disdainful of The People [defined by the Elite as ‘guns and bibles’ and ‘deplorables’ and ‘racists’] – and focused on preserving the continuous network of wealth for themselves and their families.

    Here in Canada – we have a somewhat similar situation of an Elite sect in permanent government power. They are entrenched in this power by, as noted, our Charter whose bilingualism disables more than 80% of the population from any role in government and the Charter’s rejection of individual freedom in favour of ‘group rights of belief’. [Beliefs are not facts]. And our electoral system which privileges the big cities where the public service lives.
    The difference in Canada is that we don’t have the ideology, the rights AND the duties found within a belief in individual freedom -and – we are almost totally economically dependent on the US economy. As it goes, so we [as the 51st state] also go. So- we don’t have to do very much to live a ‘basic decent life’. No great economic investments, no risk-taking in setting up new industries, no massive production of goods and services; we just franchise American tested-and-functioning companies; and import the rest. And our elected leaders pontificate a lot and tell us how much ‘better we are than those crass Americans’.

    As to what Trump/aka The People will do – I’m not sure. Something HAS to be done or the election process will forever be rendered irrelevant and a waste of time and money. I hope it will be done using Law and Order – ie, via the Supreme Court. Yes, the left will riot – but – they do that anyway.

    On a minor note – to Old White Man – I don’t think that we, as a species, are any dumber or wiser than we were 500, 1,000 years ago. There are always only a few who gather and write up a Declaration of Independence – arguably one of the greatest documents ever written by we humans.

    1. “I hope that the fight for democracy doesn’t become ‘who has the most fire-power’. ”

      It has never, ever, been anything else.

      1. Nice one kfg

        I’ve moved far enough to the right to realize that most of my standard assessments are now not fit for comment sections.

  13. I have heard many hive people saying how glad they are that Trump is out, but not one has said how glad they are that Biden is in.

    The Media is the enemy of the people, but the people are too vain to see it.

  14. Yes, the population chose ‘communism’, though it’s more like fascism, the government decides who will make it and who will succumb.
    It is the government in this country that is killing jobs so easily it is breathless. Then they give alms to those that have no jobs and those that have no jobs are going to support the government.
    See how that works?

    The so called ‘Liberal’ government of Canada with its idiot führer is willfully destroying Alberta’s economy, it is absolutely destroying it every day by design without any regard. They claim it to be because of death cult of ideology of naturally occurring changes in the climate of the planet. They, these idiots are telling the eager population that they are going to stop it.
    Can anybody in their sane mind accept that?
    If the planet is due for change of climate, it will change, it may be for the worst for some and better for possibly the most. It will change and the idiot and his press cartel is not going to stop it.

    In spite of anything, the population is going to vote for the idiot.
    Then again who do you vote for, the so called ‘Conservatives’ are in on it, that they want to take a detour as to possibly get favor with the plebeians, the end result is the same as the ‘Liberal’.

    One has to hold back on rant since there is not enough space, time or inclination to go on what seems to be like throwing peas against a wall.
    It just needs to be repeated a lot and often.

  15. I saw the handle but wasn’t sure it was the same poster. Welcome back ET! Good to hear from you again.

    I won’t always agree with your final analysis, but you always bring sound reasoning and good methodology to the discussion. I’ll have to dive into these posts after lunch.

  16. The U.S. has been been in a slow, steady decline for a half century now, except for a temporary respite during the Reagan presidency. To me the most telling recent manifestation of how bad it’s become were the police chiefs and mayors of several Dem run cities telling their police forces to stand down in the face of all the BLM rioting, looting and arson back in late May/early June. We’re frankly at a point of no return, if this is going to be the standard policy of what is now clearly a far left Democratic Party. A party that is on the side of pure evil in it’s clear intention to destroy the country as founded and ultimately install a communist dictatorship.

  17. Most of us just hope to enjoy life. We’re not demanding mansions and sports cars. We’re not demanding overseas getaways three times a year. We have relatively modest hopes for: love; freedom of worship; family; good food and good drinks and good times; to enjoy our work if we have a job that we like; the occasional vacation. Some of us love hunting. Some of us love a warm week or two on a beach. Personally, one of my most favourite things to do is enjoy an evening backyard fire-pit time with beer and friends and laughter. We don’t ask for much in life, we decent middle-class people. It doesn’t take that much to make us happy. And we couldn’t care less about what other people do or want, as long as they leave us alone. And many of us also volunteer time and dollars to make life better for those less blessed.
    But they want to take it all from us. They want our freedom. THey want our good times with family and friends. They want our joy. They want our ability to just be good ol’ lads and lasses. They want us miserable. I live near a metropolitan area in the States that got destroyed for several blocks a few months ago. And I heard and saw the brain-washed rioters’ hatred for all things that give us ordinary middle class folk the life we can enjoy. I heard and saw their frightening hatred for the historically one civilization and world-view and traditions that let the non-elite, the commoners, live well: Running water, electricty, warm homes in winter, food in the fridge and cupboard, freedom to read what we want and to be entertained how we like …. Don’t they understand what’s at stake? Do they think all those gifts of civilization will just magically keep happening after they tear it all down?
    Why? Why do they want to tear this all down until there are only a few elites on top and the rest of us forced to live bleak and grey lives? Why? They can’t all be idiots who seriously believe the nonsensical hate they spout against capitalism and Western Civilization and the family unit. They, the elites and their foot soldiers, must seriously believe that they need to take away and destroy and render impossible those freedoms and traditions and philosphies and economies that make life worth living for us all. And I can’t understand why. We’re not hurting them. In fact, we are the financial base that sustains them.
    No one wants the cave life back, a hand-to-mouth existence with the clan chief having only slightly less lice and rotten teeth than his subjects. And if they fully succeed, that’s where the human race is headed for once again- either that or the bleak horribleness of 1984. Why are they doing this?

    1. They don’t want us living in caves. They just want to go back to over 90% of the population never travelling more than 10 miles from where they’re born. If only electric cars are allowed, and the current electric generation and grid could only support 1-2% of the total number of vehicles currently on the road, it won’t be the elites that are priced out of the market. They need us working hard and keeping things running to keep them in the lifestyle that they’ve come to expect.

      I think what they underestimate is what level of personal freedom is expected among the masses that they consider as sheep. And how many of the military (and former military) will not take their side when the pretense becomes too threadbare.

      1. “I think what they underestimate is what level of personal freedom is expected among the masses that they consider as sheep”

        I pray you’re right. Because I want my children and grandchildren to have this level of personal freedom too, not just the elites. I’ve become appalled and frightened at what we commoners have had to give up since March, while the elites still jet and drive to where they want and gather with how many they want.

      2. They need us working hard and keeping things running to keep them in the lifestyle that they’ve come to expect.

        The elites wont need us to hang around making their lives nice and cozy for them because they are all ready working on our replacements, robots and electronics.

        1. The company I work for is on the bleeding edge of some aspects of automation. Many of the promised benefits aren’t being realized. It turns out that having guiding intelligence is needed for a lot of “dealing with what nature gives us” far beyond what our experience with automated assembly lines would have us believe.

    2. Statists, progressives et al regressing to poverty cause the very economic decline for their owns ends of power and wealth.

      That we are poorer in the bargain matters not; they know their policies destroy economic activity, thus jobs and prosperity.

      But they make out like bandits. As the pie becomes smaller their piece becomes bigger, even bigger than before they enacted their job, innovation and spirit killing policies. They don’t care. They don’t share the misery of the peasants.

      But, as economies dwindle they become more powerful, taking more control as a solution to the problems they caused.

      More socialism, inexorably leading to authoritarianism; inevitably to totalitarianism as only one acceptable wisdom emerges.

      No matter how the pie shrinks, their share gets every larger to suit their greed and power lust and to compensate cronies.

      The unjust wealth gap they purport to solve is rearranged with them at the receiving end, yours at the end of the barrel.

      The. End. Their End. They know exactly what they are doing. They have mentors to guide them like Lenin and Mao.

      Everything they say is self-serving bullshit, but they don’t care once they own education, media the arts, the law and the vote.

    3. Most of us just hope to enjoy life.

      That will soon become illegal. The elitists want our lives to be nasty, brutish, and short, cheap, expendable labour which will die off early.

    4. Ann, a very thoughtful excellent post. At the risk of repeating myself, I’m old and not computer savvy, and have no idea how to re-post something I wrote on another thread below this one. I posted it at 3. 32 pm on the thread titled, “Are fair elections really to much to expect in America in 2020”. It’s about five posts down from the top, as a reply to a post from another of our American friends Kenji. It lays out some of my thoughts on this. Again, as I repeat myself, we would need to write a book to encapsulate every rough thread of this Pandora’s box of insanity. If we could magically put all of the SDA threads on this frightening reality we all see, creeping like a black cloud over the horizon, we would have a much more rounded evaluation of it. Your final sentence of “Why”. Why, because they are allowed to get away with it by governors and mayors having their police forces stand down. They are enjoying the thrill of wanton destruction, they have nothing in place, to replace, what they wish to destroy. These useful idiots of the progressive left’s attempt to take back power for a permanent future of a grey existence for all who are NOT part of the elite. There will be no joy in our lives because the real elites, the one percent of, the one percent, see us as mere slaves to do their bidding in their world. Because they think by their status, it is “their” world, not ours, and we need to obey.

    5. “Why are they doing this?”~Ann

      Because THEY’VE mapped the Human genome, THEY’VE learned to clone people, THEY’VE created robots and artificial intelligence, and THEY’VE publicly stated that THEY want to reduce the human population from several Billion down to 100 million.

      Because most of us are here to help and service each other and THEY don’t need us anymore.
      THEY see us as using up THEIR resources on THEIR planet. We have become largely unnecessary to THEM.

      1. You’ve become not only unnecessary but hazardous to anyone with any brains at all. You are so lack in self-awareness that your gripe just credited the ‘enemy’ with all these fantastic achievements that you can’t even be bothered to give credit for, but seem to at least realize you made no contribution to. You people really are just a waste of space. What do you have to offer? I look forward to Trumpers dying off by old age or opioid overdose.

    6. Why are they doing this? They are doing this because they enjoy inflicting their evil upon others. Look back through history … Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Hitler, Obama to name a few. All inflicting their evil upon others.

  18. ET left out one important institution they control—the banks.

    Standing armies need lots of money to finance. All global finance has to do to overthrow a potentate who has gotten too big for his britches is to cut off the money used to pay the big men with guns, and let the big men with guns do the rest.

    So governments do everything the banks demand of them—starting with keeping people in debt-slavery.

    It took a hefty amount of bank-confetti to pay for the development of the atomic bomb. It wasn’t done to save American lives. It was to warn double-crossers like Uncle Adi to think twice before stabbing Wall Street or the City of London in the back again. The atomic bomb was developed to ensure that if global finance could not own everything worth owning, there would soon be nothing left worth owning.

    So it hasn’t mattered for decades who anybody voted for, when the charade of voting was bothered with at all.

    You want to get the attention of Wall Street? Credibly threaten a nuclear-tipped warhead at Moscow and let the Soviet nuclear arsenal do the hard work of levelling every financial capital on Earth.

    That’s what the Israelis had to do to get the bastards to call off the Arab hordes and put their plans for Holocaust 2.0 on ice for good.

    Israel is free because the Jews have learned one thing the hard way—their tormentors only do the decent thing when their only other option is to be slaughtered like the vermin they are.

    But go on. Stuff boxes with pieces of paper every few years. Heck, write the names you’re told to write on the bits of paper. See if that keeps you out of an extermination chamber.

    1. Santayana – I’ll quibble with you on this analysis.
      You seem to be saying that it’s not the Elite-in-government who run the government; it’s the Elite-in-Banks who run the government.
      I still opt for an Elite oligarchy in political office – who will ensure that their minions are moved into key CEO positions in finance [banks, foundations, OECD, UN]; in industries; in major corporations etc.

      What happens when an Elite oligarch is voted out of office? They are moved, rapidly, into an unelected position elsewhere in the network – we’ve seen how they fill such CEO positions [WWF, OECD, etc]. All these positions, both elected and appointed, are part of the Oligarch Network.
      But I don’t see that it’s ‘the Banks’ that run the infrastructure; I think it’s the political Tribe that does this – and CEOs of banks are just one site in the whole network.

    2. ” See if that keeps you out of an extermination chamber.”

      There won’t be any “chambers”. They’ll have us lining up to get a vaccine and pfft! they’ll be filling pits with us and blaming it on a virus.

  19. ET,
    It’s not happenchance that racism is found in Democrat States & Democrat Cities… The Democrat Elite are the same old Klan,,, They sprinkle Crumbs to their foolish followers like the old British Fabians… The Klan has become 21 century in MN, California, NYS, NJ. Wash state, Nevada, Mi, WI ….Where all the racism is found & why… They create the Problem & then Fix it with more socialist BS… Every Basket Case is under Democrat Control……The communist threat is real…

    The economic engine depends on Political buy in, the Neocons & Capitalist gouging don’t care if the Klan are in Control as long as the Money flows into their hands..

    JMHO

  20. “Trump was and is, a fight by The People to take back power from the Elite in Washington.”

    He lost the popular vote twice, fair and square, notwithstanding your lies about ‘sabotage’.

    I get it: your huge victim complex predisposes you to throw in for a strongman who you think will make all the bad things go away. Your intellectual superiors ie everyone with an education or training will now endeavor to keep you from electing anyone like that ever again.

    EDIT: so is this the bargaining stage? Get on with it already.

  21. Oh, and one more thing: I’m more than willing to either bend over and offer my gaping sphincter or get on my knees ready to provide oral service, as long as it is for someone from the ruling elite. It’s just that simple.

  22. Leftists loved the hockey-stick graph when it “proved” global-warming.
    But hockey stick graphs showing enormous vote-dumps for Biden in the middle of the night, happening in seconds, in the swing states, after the elites paused the vote-counting when Trump was way ahead in the vote counts in those states – we’re all supposed to just ignore those hockey-stick graphs.
    Every leftist acquantance I have right now is muttering angrily about unexpected new lock-down orders by our Democrat governor. They must have believed that the bleak gray unpleasantness of leftist rule, suffered under Democrat leaders who took advantage of CoVid to start robbing us of things that give us joy, would magically disappear the second the media said Biden won. I feel badly for these acquantances. They don’t understand that the bleakness is here to stay. We won’t be free again. At least those of us with our eyes open to what the powerful are doing can mentally and materially prepare.

    1. What the “hockey stick” graph shows, is Prince Selfie Sock’s enthusiasm in his pants when he sees me showing up with my kneepads.

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