51 Replies to “Teck Tell”

  1. Canada is an attractive place to invest if you can get the government to force consumers to pay 40 times the going rate for electricity like they did in Ontario. I suspect the land would have produced a greater value in agricultural products than it ever will in electricity.

    2. Agreed. Bombardier executive’s only talent is securing subsidies.
      Same goes for these dependent on subsidies wind farms.
      Nobody would be stupid enough to use their own money on them.
      Government is poor at picking winners; but losers are good at picking government.
      That’s their kind of “investing,” which means taxpayers take all the risks while crony capitalists and statist politicians take credit.

      1. Tell me about it.

        I worked for a number of “high tech” firms during the 1980s. Most of them were able to keep their doors open and lights on because they knew someone inside the governments in the respective provinces. They got all sorts of funding and, in a number of cases, some attractive terms for it.

        One outfit was privately owned by employees and local investors. When it yet again close to being on the skids, it decided it would only take on new R & D projects if the government backed them. They, on the other hand, weren’t willing to gamble with their money. (Uh, that’s what investing is all about, dummies. You risk your money. You may lost it all but you can also collect all the rewards.)

        It didn’t matter as far as I was concerned. I was either fired or laid off from each of them. Two eventually went out of business. The others changed owners at least once and are now part of other companies.

    1. Does it include skyhooks and magnifying glasses to bring the Sun closer to the energy absorbers? Because solar projects in Northern latitudes fail because the Sun is not high enough in the sky for long enough in the day to deliver enough energy to the project to justify the capital expended.

    3. If the new one is different, it’s worse. It will have zero power storage and end up being a net cost to the grid.

      1. Some farmer gets 40 acres used up for a different purpose. Growing “subsidies”. For da Planet.
        I used to work in da Kanadjian Boosh. Daylight started at 0930 hrs and set at 1600 hrs at McMurray level Latitudes, dead of winter. Daytime high -35 F. Nighttime temps you couldn’t read as the mercury was buried below -40 on the thermometer. We would call Cree Lake weather station in the morning for updates for the chopper… try – 64 F. We’ll wait for sun up. Frankly it wasn’t much better in Saskatoon where I lived at the time, several hundred km south. Try flying a helicopter after dark. Yeah, not recommended. This was 1979.
        We lived in single walled tents, with a tarp on top and an oil stove (diesel) for heat. I dumped my gear bag in the garage when I went home. Your ears were tuned to the tink, tink, tink of cooling metal when ice crystals clogged the fuel line on the oil stove. I had the only “electric light” powered by Honda (for logging core) in camp, the rest used Colemans. No running water. The heli crew cut a Jet B drum lengthwise for a soaker tub. A few more were made for the drill crew. Axes are a pretty handy tool. I have pictures. The biffy was a Johnson Bar…if you know what I mean, with a three-sided tarp. Woe be you if the chopper pilot found you out there! Your bath was a wash basin/tub…a major effort.
        Educated folks predicted we were headed for Ice Age Now at the time. Supposed to be headed for a similar cooling period now, while we try and coerce folks to get off hydrocarbons. Cold can be debilitating, physically and mentally and it doesn’t have to be all that cold. More people type today then back then. Try it with perpetually cold fingers in a carbon taxed environment and just a room temp of 65 F.
        My whiskey bottle was on a fishing line up in the rafters of the tent. Nothing was left at plywood floor level.

    4. Yea…? simply don’t matter what “tech”t hey are using. It won’t work at NIGHT and it wont work covered in SNOW. Nor will it “create” those mythical Green Jobs I keep hearing about either.

      When the sun goes down and the snow covers the panels – the GENERATORS start up….at 10 times the cost….to ratepayers.
      Total Fkn Madness.

      And Kenney does squat, continuing Notelys idiocy of displacing our CLEAN COAL with Nat gas and zero Back up.

  4. Investors from China, right? I mean they are our friends, eh!
    Who needs that 20 billion thing anyhow!

  5. The good and wise people of the Liberal Party of Canada (LPC) have deemed that Albertans aren’t up to the job of doing the right things when it comes to, well, just about everything. Given that the LPC has the parliamentary support of their fellow travelers in the NDP and Green parties, and despite having no representation in Alberta, they have a mandate to do the right thing for the rest of the planet, solar system, and universe on the (insert appropriate FN bands) land in Alberta. They have therefore decided that Albertans must be phased out of providing wanted and needed energy to Canada and the US and certainly anywhere else and instead become the pilot project for all good LPC deemed energy projects which is limited to wind and solar. Anyone objecting will be de-platformed or sent to peoples re-education camps. The CBC has asked the CPC party leadership candidates for their comments but have yet to receive any.

    1. how will we get electricity?

      Surely, you jest. Since when was the well-being of Albertans ever a priority under the Trudeaus?

    2. You’ll get it alright….

      At about 10 times the cost of what you pay now. Instead of .075 cents per kw/hr – it’ll be .750 cents per kw/hr or more…depending on how its generated or if its bought from MOntana.

    3. Considering where Tronna is located (around Cali/Oregon border) why should they care? You should have “diversified”.

  8. Buying a solar farm is like a middle class family with two Civics buying a $120,000 Tesla as their third car to commute to work in order to be “Green”. Only a Liberal could make that math work.

  9. NP Faux News: “Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland, who has the job of repairing relations with the province,”

    Hilarious and yet so depressing.

    1. Her approach is like the old saying: if the only tool one has is a hammer, every problem becomes a nail.

    2. When we become independent shortly, the warrant should go out for Freeland for the capital crime of treason. Give her the Mussolini/Ceaușescu treatment. Instant justice.

    3. Neither hilarious not depressing, I find it a height of cynicism and tone deaf arrogance… they’ll destroy your province and remake it in their image, your wishes be damned. It is like Russians boasting about increased agricultural output of Ukrainian collective farming circa 1935.

    1. Not only dumb but depressingly, nauseatingly tiresome. She is the product of an elite education and like so many others of this ilk (another good example is former Immigration Minister Johnny “Walker” McCallum), she has been educated to imbecility.

  11. Why isn’t Medicine Hat retrofitting their solar concentrators with solar panels?

    You would have to move the panels out of the focus, but the land is cleared, facility is built, and at least half the equipment is reusable. With the use of reflected light, the relatively fragile solar panels would be protected from hail, rain, and dust. Wouldn’t a 3 or 4X concentrated solar flux be more efficient?

    Unless the whole thing is a maintenance nightmare, and most of the parts are reaching end of life?

  13. The usual total nonsense of “this will provide enough energy to power 100,000 homes” …… every now and again, i.e. maybe 5-10% of the time. This is the same BS as the Ontario Liberals used in “the Green Energy Act will create 50,000 jobs” which never appeared.

    1. Yes. Our utility’s media relations people go off the rating of the solar farm instead of the actual output – and it really irritates me that they are not honest with the public. It’s all bologna but they think the public wants to hear that crap. Even our 200 MW/hr wind contract averages 65 MW – and that’s not even considering the effects of days when it’s zero. But our CEO brags about the % renewables in our portfolio, basing all this off of the ratings. Our landfill methane generators are offline about as much as they are online and even when they are online, they produce nothing significant. Everyone would save money if we shut them down.

      All for the renewable public relations stuff. Few within the energy industry seem to state and defend the truth to the public… the others lie and I wager most know they are speaking bs.

  14. “…create revenue stream for landowners …”

    Yup. To the financial detriment of their neighbours and fellow Albertans.

  15. $1 million per job “created,” assuming (wrongly imho) it doesn’t go over budget.
    $500,000,000 taken from taxpayers to build something that can’t produce a kwh without subsidization.
    Another example of Liberals “investing” in Canadians; kind of like buying a pipeline company for taxpayers to underwrite?
    Meanwhile what happens to Teck Oilsands?
    (maybe it’s not viable with present energy prices, so what, if they’re willing to take the risk, not taxpayers?):

    “Any economic assistance for Alberta is “separate and distinct” from the Teck decision, Finance Minister Bill Morneau told reporters in Ottawa.”

    https://business.financialpost.com/commodities/energy/get-out-of-the-way-of-our-province-alberta-urges-approval-of-teck-oilsands-mine-rejects-federal-aid-idea#comments-area

    You’re not getting either, but they’re still “separate and distinct.” Kind of like Alberta will be with these continued shenanigans.

  19. So, did Ralph Goodale recently purchase some land in Alberta that is about to be bought for this?

    Asking for a friend…

    Is Ralph the next GG yet?

  20. I see the Unreliables (wind and Solar) locusts ,after raping Ontario, have set their sights on Alberta.
    Yep, they’re trying to soften Albertans up for a deep sixxing of the Teck project.
    Is their a reason both projects couldn’t go ahead?

  21. At this rate I give the country 5 years till the creditors come in and sell off the country piece by piece.
    Of course the US is not going to sit back and let the northern part of the continent be sold off like that, we become a US protectorate at that point. What I would want to know then if the US laws apply?
    People here in central Canada might want to consider the implications of constantly undermining the west economically.

    1. “protectorate”
      While I don’t understand it, I admire your optimistic outlook on the future. Is it the legal cannabis ?

      “What I would want to know then if the US laws apply?”
      They don’t seem to apply much in the US anymore, why would they in an acquired territory in distress ?

  23. I read they (who are they I do not know) are investing $40 billion into the LNG infrastructure in B.C.

    $500 million into Alberta? From billions to millions.

  24. So, who wants to illegally blockade their constructions sites? Start a sacred fire, and your tent cannot be removed by any police force in Canada…

    1. What are you bitching about this time? You wanted Libranos to win and you got your wish granted.

  25. largest solar farm in Canada

    and

    it will be the largest failure too

    why?

    well…the Crescent Dunes solar plant in Nevada – the LARGEST in the USA – is closing, it lost ONE BILLION DOLLARS

    solar plants are rarely efficient

    the cost of their electricity is too high

  26. Oh my, rational thought is no longer available. Backup power for the nights and snow days??? Wind will not do it.

  27. Does anyone else smell a rat with the numbers? The average daily consumption per home in America is 30KWH.
    She brags that this will be the biggest solar plant evah, but how big will it have to be to provide power for 100,000
    homes? Dr. Dixie Lee Ray wrote that a solar PV array large enough to power New York City would require more
    area than the city itself. You would need at least 30 square miles to power a city with 100,000 people!

    1. It will supply power to absolutely freaking nothing. It will however suck millions of dollars out of YOUR pocket. Canadians, man you are funny. You accept any shit thrown your way.

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