If you’re interested in hearing the polar opposite of the Joe Rogan/Peter McCullough podcast Sam Harris has a new three hour discussion with Nicholas Christakis.
It’s hard to actually describe how big a chasm of knowledge and understanding there is between McCullough and Christakis. Its literally night and day. If you want to know what’s going on in these peoples heads and how they think, this is probably about as clear and depressing a picture as you’ll find.
If you can’t stand to listen to it all, just jump around and listen to a few minutes hear and there to get the gist of things.
YouTube: What Have We Learned from the Pandemic?: A Conversation with Nicholas Christakis

That old line about “knowing stuff that ain’t so”, comes to mind….
HAHAHA. So true.
Just picking random spots is enough.
in four tries I got a ‘It’s Trump’s fault’, a nice little strawman about tracking chips in the vaccine, a ‘95% efficacy’ bit of nonsense, and an assurance that your kids should get the covid jab.
Stan,
Depressing but true. You lasted longer than me. I skipped through at a few spots and it was like listening to CNN etc.
Regarding the interview , it reminds me of a Dirty Harry quote … ” A man’s gotta know his limitations” … unfortunately they don’t.
One of his arguments for kids getting vaccinated was that they could get covid, give it to you, then you could die, and then the kids would be poorer off.
An admission that your vaccine doesn’t work if your kids can infect you.
An extension of the ‘My vaccine won’t work unless you get one too’.
Theres a good explainer in here about relative risk vs absolute risk. Good overall presentation most here will be familiar with.
https://www.skirsch.com/covid/MoreHarm.pdf
As I am wont to tell liberals, it’s more urgent for you to seek alt-info than it is for me. I know your culture-dominating views which are absorbed via osmosis.
IOW, I won’t be watching/listening. Like most here, I could write the script.
Francisco is a masochist.
x-Menticide: I’m retiring my 18 yo handle Me No Dhimmi because mohammedans are impotent without the active collusion of our western rulers most of whom are practicing menticide upon us.
Exactly.
Me No Dhimmi is/was a great handle – sums it all up in three words.
Ask a liberal to swap sides: They make your argument and you make theirs.
As you say, you already know their points, they generally don’t know yours.
Explain to them that if they don’t know your argument then they cannot argue that their argument is the stronger of the two.
If they don’t know the value of both X and Y then they cannot argue that X is greater than Y.
Be blunt and condescending , openly explain to them that you are using that trick to try to get them to educate themselves.
“I won’t be watching/listening.”
This. I don’t need a rehash of the brain dead bullshit I hear/read on a regular basis, thankyouverymuch.
Jumped around a bit, but the bits I did here were the Dr. repeatedly blaming Trump, talking about his narcissism , and about how there is no evidence that Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine work. As Dr. McCullough said on his Twitter feed, this is information warfare. This new interview which goes against many peer reviewed scientific studies is allowed on YouTube, but the unpopular opinion which is backed by data is removed. We truly do live in Orwellian times.
And in the vein of Rogan- McCullough…This is simply Excellent..!!!
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2021/12/10/must-read-many-have-died-from-being-hoodwinked-by-media-orchestration-of-a-deadly-covid-pandemic/
I predict that Christakis will be appearing on every media outlet in the next month.
McCullough, on the other hand, will be blacklisted and banned from every media platform there is.
Tell me again why I should listen to whats-his-name, versus say this:
This is worth more of your time than looney lefties
25 minutes in and started skipping.
Listened for another 15 minutes.
Not a single citation.
The vaccines are “free to the public. Paid for by government” LOLLLLL
Hes a physician, how many covid patients has he personally seen as a clinician??
He mentions adverse reactions and says its perfectly acceptable losses.
Enough gaslighting for me.
Their degrees aren’t worth the the ass wipe their printed on.
Is Nike now the official footwear of the KKK?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/democrat-senator-who-blocked-china-forced-labor-bill-received-60k-nike-execs-september
Here is the slide deck for Ontario’s COVID modelling. There is no serious information in that deck. There is no back-testing their methodology against past history. There is no clear statement of assumptions used as factors within the model. I expect their correlation coefficient is less than the 0.15 that passes for social science research. Utter garbage.
https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Update-on-COVID-19-Projections_English_2021.12.16.pdf
As an example, the vast majority of deaths occur in the 40+ age group. Within that group there may be a relationship between cases and deaths. The relationship is different in younger age groups. Adding more cases from kids means your correlation coefficient goes out the window. What is your methodology? Are you even trying to forecast something here? This is what “Fear Porn” looks like.
So, the dude is a “social scientist “.
Yeah, some expert, I’ll stick with GVB, Malone, Yeadon, McCullough, Zelenko, Kory, Cole, Gold, et al, REAL DOCTORS who are the true heroes withCovid.
There’s a silver lining here.
The vaxxed are mostly leftists who obediently took their jabs.
They’ll be the ones to die off, is that so bad? Their choice……
Christakis is the son of Greek kleptocrats who fled Greece in 1968 not long after the colonels stopped Greece from falling into communist hands, and formed the only honest government Greece has had in modern times.
That tells you all you need to know about him.
Used to have all the time in the world for Sam b/c of his outspokenness on Islam as well as a few other topics. Gone down a notch or two during CoVid, esp. after a fairly cowardly “debunking” of the Weinsteins. It was more of a traducing, in fact, and that episode hasn’t aged well.