I could care less about STARBUCKS IN ANY way shape or form.
$5.00 / coffee is not in my Budget.
…nor is Virtue Signalling of any kind.
Just a place for snotty arrogant Leftists to hang out.
Worse is that it calls the stuff it peddles “coffee”.
Many years ago, I worked in the oil industry. During one well-logging job I was involved with, one of the crew decided it was time to make coffee. The truck we were in had an urn, and after checking how much water there was, he dumped the better part of an entire package of coffee into it. The result was a brew for which the term “strong” was an understatement. I’m sure that one could have used it to caulk a boat or fix pavement cracks.
If we didn’t bring coffee, we didn’t have any. No Timmy or Starbucks anywhere.
Just got back from a remote mining camp in central BC. The bed room was literally miles away from the dining hall. The room was hot and no way to cool it off. The food was terrible bland and poorly cooked and served cold and if that wasn’t bad enough they served Starbucks coffee. I was never so glad to leave a camp as I was yesterday.
Your comment about camp food reminded me of something.
I inherited my father’s house in northern B. C. and I travel there periodically to work on it as I settle the estate. One of my neighbours has a son who works in the oil industry and he’s often in a camp somewhere.
One night, I was at a nearby grocery store when I saw him in another lineup. After we had finished making our respective purchases, I chatted with him. It used to be that camp food was an incentive for people to come and work at a particular location. Apparently, that’s no longer the case.
It turned out that he was at the store buying his groceries for the next few weeks because it seems that the current practice now is for workers to make their own meals. I asked him about the food at the camp and he didn’t have much good to say about it or the staff that prepared it.
Times change….
I worked for a dredging company for a while and did a couple of jobs down near the mouths of the Mississippi and Atchafalaya rivers. Because we were so far from civilization, we stayed on a ‘Quarterbarge’, which was basically a floating dormitory. The food was usually pretty good however, because if it wasn’t, the captain of the dredge would serve the head cook’s ass for lunch. On the rare occasions when that happened, we would would forgo lunch, but use it to catch crabs, which we would then prepare for dinner. They were much tastier.
If only there was some way Starbucks could have seen this coming.
As they say, get woke, go broke.
as the management happily skip down the sidewalk with their fingers in their ears going lalalalalalalala.
A quick peek in a Starbucks window at the soy-boy, limp wristed trudeau types all staring at their phones is enough to put me off, let alone the crap they peddle as coffee. I’ll stick to coffee from my old stove top percolator, thanks.
There’s nothing like perced coffee.
About 20 years ago, the shopping centre right beside my apartment complex went through a renovation.
One of the results was that there was a Starbucks right beside a Cole’s. The only thing is that there was no wall in between and, some nights, there was something purported to be live music being played. It made browsing in the bookstore annoying as whichever soyboy musician happened to be there on a given night seemed to forget that it helps to have talent.
Fortunately, a few years later, there was yet another renovation and a wall was finally erected between the two establishments. Fortunately, “music” is no longer performed, at least during the times I was in that part of the shopping centre.
For some reason, though, Starbucks opened an outlet inside the centre’s grocery store, just a minute or two’s walk away from the other one. Both seem to be doing brisk business, though.
I brew some decent coffee at home for a few pennies a cup and love teasing my Timmy’s-addicted neighbors about the size of their monthly caffeine budget. I’ve had car payments that were lower.
I mentioned elsewhere that I live right beside a shopping centre. In addition to there being two Starbucks outlets, there’s also a Tim Hortons as well. But, there’s also a TH across the street on the site of what once was a service station.
It seems that none of those places is hard up for clientele. Each time I pass by one of them, they’re usually full.
I’m a bit mystified as to how the shopping centre can support 3 retail coffee outlets and why just those two chains. Years ago, there was a private vendor right beside one of the anchor stores and it was in a prime location. He also stocked a variety of teas and I eventually bought mine there.
The store was originally Woodward’s and he made a money from the staff who bought his coffee. He was quite concerned when Woodward’s went belly up as the store was closed for about a year but business picked up after Eaton’s took over the location. Then Eaton’s went bankrupt but he didn’t have to wait long before Sears took over the location.
Around that time, the business changed hands. A few years after that happened, the shopping centre’s management jacked up its rent and it was forced to close. I suspect that it happened on purpose because one of the Starbucks outlets was about 50 metres away. (Coincidence? Yeah, right.) That location is now occupied by a health food store.
When I lost my source of loose tea, I went to the other private vendor at the other end of the shopping centre for a while. He primarily sold coffee and he didn’t have as wide a selection of tea and what he did stock was over-priced.
I wasn’t entirely surprised when that outlet eventually became the Tim Hortons I mentioned earlier. Maybe that place was also forced out of business by the shopping centre’s management for the same reason as the other one was.
They can’t say nobody warned them.
Moving on:
Is there a reason why so many links to the main page have been broken lately?
My wife frequents a Starbucks on Piedmont Ave. in Oakland … a very nice area of the city, with pricey restaurants and shops. There is always a gaggle of several homeless people camped out at the doorway, pan-handling my wife with every visit. For the most part they are polite, and say “God Bless you” after she refuses their request. However, the place is filthy and is always disgusted by the gauntlet she has to run. And yes … the restrooms are always “closed for cleaning”.
All I can say to the Starbucks management is … “God bless you” … for making my wife wade thru the diseased homeless to enter your establishment.
And where are all the muslim baristas that were promised? I guess no one wants muslim body fluids in their lattes.
I have always liked McDonalds coffee. Even back when it was crotch-burningly hot. Always consistent, served quickly, not terribly expensive and served by people who don’t seem to care about their pronoun.
I grabbed a coffee at a Charbucks the other day and their name tags also had their preferred pronouns. Samantha they / them took my order. Duncan him/her made the coffee. While I waited 10 minutes for an Americano (and 15 remote orders to be served first) I occupied myself by counting bad tattoos and wondering if he/him or hopefully one of them actually washed their hands today.
Of course Mickey D’s bathrooms have always been somewhat problematic but never news-worthy.
Hahaha … and counting the piercings? Those that are visible …
Starbucks is one place where the employees have so many piercings that they clank when they move.
The staff responded in the only way they could, “Closed for Cleaning” just like anyone would. When something becomes a pain in the butt you close it off.
Cleaning them requires staff. Posting signs on the doors is much cheaper.
Here’s another reason I’ve come to detest Starbucks.
Nearly 20 years ago, I flew from Edmonton to Reno, Nevada to present a paper. I had to change airlines at the Seattle-Tacoma airport and had to wait several hours before I could continue.
I swear that every 50 metres or so, there was a coffee outlet in the terminal I was in. If it wasn’t Starbucks, it was Seattle’s Best. To make matters worse, the airport’s TV system kept playing an ad about the airport itself or the local area and it kept mentioning how great the local coffee is.
Until then, I thought airports like those in Vancouver or Toronto were infuriating.
B A, you think YYZ is bad, go through rome. Real sh!tehole that is.
The biggest airport I’ve been in would probably be LAX. Bewilderingly large and over-priced food. Mind you, the view of the different types of aircraft made my time there interesting while I waited for my return flight to Calgary.
As for large and boring, I would say either Dorval or the one in Winnipeg would top my list. As for small and boring, I’ve been through so many I can’t list them all.
LaGuardia and Chicago are dumps, too.
Many years ago, the post-secondary institution I taught at added a new wing in its main building. That wing also included a number of lecture rooms and, because the institution had an inept timetabling office, some of my lectures were conducted there.
One year, a coffee chain opened an outlet in that wing (Second Cup, I think). That was bad enough, but the architecture of the wing included a large open interior and the acoustics were lousy. The racket produced by the coffee outlet’s clientele made it difficult for me to conduct my lectures.
Then, one day, one of the soyboys who ran the joint decided to pay music on a ghetto blaster. It was bad enough that it was some New Age/grunge/who-the-dickens-knows stuff which made a cat with its tail caught in a door sound pleasant by comparison, it was excessively loud. I finally had to reprimand xim/xer/xit about it as I was running an exam in a room right next door.
Of course, the institution’s administration loved having that outlet there. I think at least another one opened elsewhere on campus but, by the time that happened, I quit. The place had become too ridiculous for me.
When society yields to the Lowest Common Denominator the result is quite often a simple pile of shit.
That about perfectly sums up this thread.
Few years ago passing through Salt Lake City, we stopped at down town Starbucks. It was on an early cool morning in Feb or March.
There he was, Satchmo, if you know what I mean, well he did look the part, he was clean, neat looking guy. Anyway the guy was cold, had his bags around sitting outside on Starbuck chair. Asked him if he wants coffee and doughnuts. He agreed. Asked him to come in with me, get warm and sit inside while drinking coffee and having them doughnuts.
He said that he could not go in because they did not want him there. So I just went in got him a coffee and we were on our way.
I don’t frequent Starbucks or Horton’s.
A&W or Mickey d’s when I’m travelling.
At home its cowboy bob coffee. Cold water fresh ground beans – no perc just boil. Yeah you get a few grounds in your cup but you can’t beat the taste.
I don’t blame the staff for closing the restrooms.
There is no job that pays me enough to risk my health trying to clean up a 5hi++y mess left by a potential HIV or Hepatitis infected bum. At least Norovirus, E. Coli, and Salmonella are usually only temporary. The $10 or $12 an hour they get is not enough for them either. And even if they do a good job, thirty minutes and a couple of bums later, it is just as filthy as it was before they started.
I cleaned restrooms as a janitor and a dishwasher in office buildings and restaurants (pre-AIDS), and frankly they are not made to be cleaned and disinfected. Fecal matter, urine and vomit on the walls or floors? Maybe you can get 95-99 percent of it? If it is in the tile or floor grout, it is there to stay. You cannot wet mop them, because most don’t have floor drains, and the water is dirty and full of “stuff” the first time you rinse the mop.
As a bonus for the poor “baristas,” with the restroom permanently closed, the homeless, drug addicts, and other street denizens will have to find another place to congregate.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/12/starbucks-new-bathroom-policy-not-working-out-as-hoped/
I could care less about STARBUCKS IN ANY way shape or form.
$5.00 / coffee is not in my Budget.
…nor is Virtue Signalling of any kind.
Just a place for snotty arrogant Leftists to hang out.
Worse is that it calls the stuff it peddles “coffee”.
Many years ago, I worked in the oil industry. During one well-logging job I was involved with, one of the crew decided it was time to make coffee. The truck we were in had an urn, and after checking how much water there was, he dumped the better part of an entire package of coffee into it. The result was a brew for which the term “strong” was an understatement. I’m sure that one could have used it to caulk a boat or fix pavement cracks.
Now that was coffee! Take that, Starbucks!
Me too. About 55 years ago, briefly.
At the wellsite
If we didn’t bring coffee, we didn’t have any. No Timmy or Starbucks anywhere.
Just got back from a remote mining camp in central BC. The bed room was literally miles away from the dining hall. The room was hot and no way to cool it off. The food was terrible bland and poorly cooked and served cold and if that wasn’t bad enough they served Starbucks coffee. I was never so glad to leave a camp as I was yesterday.
Your comment about camp food reminded me of something.
I inherited my father’s house in northern B. C. and I travel there periodically to work on it as I settle the estate. One of my neighbours has a son who works in the oil industry and he’s often in a camp somewhere.
One night, I was at a nearby grocery store when I saw him in another lineup. After we had finished making our respective purchases, I chatted with him. It used to be that camp food was an incentive for people to come and work at a particular location. Apparently, that’s no longer the case.
It turned out that he was at the store buying his groceries for the next few weeks because it seems that the current practice now is for workers to make their own meals. I asked him about the food at the camp and he didn’t have much good to say about it or the staff that prepared it.
Times change….
I worked for a dredging company for a while and did a couple of jobs down near the mouths of the Mississippi and Atchafalaya rivers. Because we were so far from civilization, we stayed on a ‘Quarterbarge’, which was basically a floating dormitory. The food was usually pretty good however, because if it wasn’t, the captain of the dredge would serve the head cook’s ass for lunch. On the rare occasions when that happened, we would would forgo lunch, but use it to catch crabs, which we would then prepare for dinner. They were much tastier.
If only there was some way Starbucks could have seen this coming.
As they say, get woke, go broke.
as the management happily skip down the sidewalk with their fingers in their ears going lalalalalalalala.
A quick peek in a Starbucks window at the soy-boy, limp wristed trudeau types all staring at their phones is enough to put me off, let alone the crap they peddle as coffee. I’ll stick to coffee from my old stove top percolator, thanks.
There’s nothing like perced coffee.
About 20 years ago, the shopping centre right beside my apartment complex went through a renovation.
One of the results was that there was a Starbucks right beside a Cole’s. The only thing is that there was no wall in between and, some nights, there was something purported to be live music being played. It made browsing in the bookstore annoying as whichever soyboy musician happened to be there on a given night seemed to forget that it helps to have talent.
Fortunately, a few years later, there was yet another renovation and a wall was finally erected between the two establishments. Fortunately, “music” is no longer performed, at least during the times I was in that part of the shopping centre.
For some reason, though, Starbucks opened an outlet inside the centre’s grocery store, just a minute or two’s walk away from the other one. Both seem to be doing brisk business, though.
I brew some decent coffee at home for a few pennies a cup and love teasing my Timmy’s-addicted neighbors about the size of their monthly caffeine budget. I’ve had car payments that were lower.
I mentioned elsewhere that I live right beside a shopping centre. In addition to there being two Starbucks outlets, there’s also a Tim Hortons as well. But, there’s also a TH across the street on the site of what once was a service station.
It seems that none of those places is hard up for clientele. Each time I pass by one of them, they’re usually full.
I’m a bit mystified as to how the shopping centre can support 3 retail coffee outlets and why just those two chains. Years ago, there was a private vendor right beside one of the anchor stores and it was in a prime location. He also stocked a variety of teas and I eventually bought mine there.
The store was originally Woodward’s and he made a money from the staff who bought his coffee. He was quite concerned when Woodward’s went belly up as the store was closed for about a year but business picked up after Eaton’s took over the location. Then Eaton’s went bankrupt but he didn’t have to wait long before Sears took over the location.
Around that time, the business changed hands. A few years after that happened, the shopping centre’s management jacked up its rent and it was forced to close. I suspect that it happened on purpose because one of the Starbucks outlets was about 50 metres away. (Coincidence? Yeah, right.) That location is now occupied by a health food store.
When I lost my source of loose tea, I went to the other private vendor at the other end of the shopping centre for a while. He primarily sold coffee and he didn’t have as wide a selection of tea and what he did stock was over-priced.
I wasn’t entirely surprised when that outlet eventually became the Tim Hortons I mentioned earlier. Maybe that place was also forced out of business by the shopping centre’s management for the same reason as the other one was.
They can’t say nobody warned them.
Moving on:
Is there a reason why so many links to the main page have been broken lately?
My wife frequents a Starbucks on Piedmont Ave. in Oakland … a very nice area of the city, with pricey restaurants and shops. There is always a gaggle of several homeless people camped out at the doorway, pan-handling my wife with every visit. For the most part they are polite, and say “God Bless you” after she refuses their request. However, the place is filthy and is always disgusted by the gauntlet she has to run. And yes … the restrooms are always “closed for cleaning”.
All I can say to the Starbucks management is … “God bless you” … for making my wife wade thru the diseased homeless to enter your establishment.
And where are all the muslim baristas that were promised? I guess no one wants muslim body fluids in their lattes.
I have always liked McDonalds coffee. Even back when it was crotch-burningly hot. Always consistent, served quickly, not terribly expensive and served by people who don’t seem to care about their pronoun.
I grabbed a coffee at a Charbucks the other day and their name tags also had their preferred pronouns. Samantha they / them took my order. Duncan him/her made the coffee. While I waited 10 minutes for an Americano (and 15 remote orders to be served first) I occupied myself by counting bad tattoos and wondering if he/him or hopefully one of them actually washed their hands today.
Of course Mickey D’s bathrooms have always been somewhat problematic but never news-worthy.
Hahaha … and counting the piercings? Those that are visible …
Starbucks is one place where the employees have so many piercings that they clank when they move.
The staff responded in the only way they could, “Closed for Cleaning” just like anyone would. When something becomes a pain in the butt you close it off.
Cleaning them requires staff. Posting signs on the doors is much cheaper.
Here’s another reason I’ve come to detest Starbucks.
Nearly 20 years ago, I flew from Edmonton to Reno, Nevada to present a paper. I had to change airlines at the Seattle-Tacoma airport and had to wait several hours before I could continue.
I swear that every 50 metres or so, there was a coffee outlet in the terminal I was in. If it wasn’t Starbucks, it was Seattle’s Best. To make matters worse, the airport’s TV system kept playing an ad about the airport itself or the local area and it kept mentioning how great the local coffee is.
Until then, I thought airports like those in Vancouver or Toronto were infuriating.
B A, you think YYZ is bad, go through rome. Real sh!tehole that is.
The biggest airport I’ve been in would probably be LAX. Bewilderingly large and over-priced food. Mind you, the view of the different types of aircraft made my time there interesting while I waited for my return flight to Calgary.
As for large and boring, I would say either Dorval or the one in Winnipeg would top my list. As for small and boring, I’ve been through so many I can’t list them all.
LaGuardia and Chicago are dumps, too.
Many years ago, the post-secondary institution I taught at added a new wing in its main building. That wing also included a number of lecture rooms and, because the institution had an inept timetabling office, some of my lectures were conducted there.
One year, a coffee chain opened an outlet in that wing (Second Cup, I think). That was bad enough, but the architecture of the wing included a large open interior and the acoustics were lousy. The racket produced by the coffee outlet’s clientele made it difficult for me to conduct my lectures.
Then, one day, one of the soyboys who ran the joint decided to pay music on a ghetto blaster. It was bad enough that it was some New Age/grunge/who-the-dickens-knows stuff which made a cat with its tail caught in a door sound pleasant by comparison, it was excessively loud. I finally had to reprimand xim/xer/xit about it as I was running an exam in a room right next door.
Of course, the institution’s administration loved having that outlet there. I think at least another one opened elsewhere on campus but, by the time that happened, I quit. The place had become too ridiculous for me.
When society yields to the Lowest Common Denominator the result is quite often a simple pile of shit.
That about perfectly sums up this thread.
Few years ago passing through Salt Lake City, we stopped at down town Starbucks. It was on an early cool morning in Feb or March.
There he was, Satchmo, if you know what I mean, well he did look the part, he was clean, neat looking guy. Anyway the guy was cold, had his bags around sitting outside on Starbuck chair. Asked him if he wants coffee and doughnuts. He agreed. Asked him to come in with me, get warm and sit inside while drinking coffee and having them doughnuts.
He said that he could not go in because they did not want him there. So I just went in got him a coffee and we were on our way.
I don’t frequent Starbucks or Horton’s.
A&W or Mickey d’s when I’m travelling.
At home its cowboy bob coffee. Cold water fresh ground beans – no perc just boil. Yeah you get a few grounds in your cup but you can’t beat the taste.
I don’t blame the staff for closing the restrooms.
There is no job that pays me enough to risk my health trying to clean up a 5hi++y mess left by a potential HIV or Hepatitis infected bum. At least Norovirus, E. Coli, and Salmonella are usually only temporary. The $10 or $12 an hour they get is not enough for them either. And even if they do a good job, thirty minutes and a couple of bums later, it is just as filthy as it was before they started.
I cleaned restrooms as a janitor and a dishwasher in office buildings and restaurants (pre-AIDS), and frankly they are not made to be cleaned and disinfected. Fecal matter, urine and vomit on the walls or floors? Maybe you can get 95-99 percent of it? If it is in the tile or floor grout, it is there to stay. You cannot wet mop them, because most don’t have floor drains, and the water is dirty and full of “stuff” the first time you rinse the mop.
As a bonus for the poor “baristas,” with the restroom permanently closed, the homeless, drug addicts, and other street denizens will have to find another place to congregate.