By the sounds of it, the Ontario PCs might be better off if Brown was replaced by a 2 x 4. At least a piece of lumber can’t do or say anything that’ll do the party any harm and it’s stiff enough that one might think it has a backbone.
Brown impresses me as being a political marshmallow. I hesitate to call him a jellyfish because there are some species that can sting their opponents.
As an Ontario Conservative I have no one to vote for so what are the options? Do you go with Stunned Stupid, the Green Witch or the Yakitty Yak? I’ve already told the PC fund raisers I can’t give money to support stupidity IF I have any left after paying exorbitant hydro and utility bills in Wynne’s Ontario.
In a democracy we have choices but when the options are from the best of the worst it’s a tough call. However we will get the government the unions and the Toronto elite want and that will be Lady Plushbottom Wynne tossing money we don’t have to her chosen ones and the green energy bottomless pit.
Don’t they read the news? The Sydney desalination plant is the biggest white elephant ever constructed. The Warmistas insisted there would be no water in Australia by about 10 years ago and there were historic floods after the plants were built.
Socialism: a religion of the stomach.
“Venezuela is convulsing from hunger.”
…-
“Economic collapse leads Venezuelans to riot over food shortages”
“With delivery trucks under constant attack, the nation’s food is now transported under armed guard. Soldiers stand watch over bakeries. The police fire rubber bullets at desperate mobs storming grocery stores, pharmacies and butcher shops. A 4-year-old girl was shot to death as street gangs fought over food.
Venezuela is convulsing from hunger.” http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/economic-collapse-leads-venezuelans-to-riot-over-food-shortages/article30516768/
The Contract with America promised to eliminate 95 specific government programs. None of those programs were eliminated.
Welfare reform was passed and offered the first substantive alterations of these programs in a generation. Even so, the budget for these 95 programs during Gingrich’s time as Speaker grew by 13%. That’s the story of post-Cold War conservatism. Lots of Five Year Plans and artfully labeled agendas, but the result has been a 25 year run of expanding government and retreating liberty.
Here is a sign of how interested the left is in actually having a conversation. I signed up with rabble.ca a few months ago and was having some interesting conversations on their forums, appropriately called Babble. Today, I discover my account has been blocked due to inappropriate comments. Funny part is that I was always polite. I got called a lot of names. But it is truly an echo chamber. Non-progressive viewpoints are not welcome.
I don’t think Brown realizes how much he has alienated traditional Conservatives — even middle of the road ones, let alone the far right. I miss Tim Hudak.
Yes, Ontario voters are between a rock and a hard place. You and LindaL, and other conservatives from Ontario on this blog, could let the PCs know what you think of them and Brownford and then sit on your hands and purse or wallets for the next election. Maybe when Ontario sinks to the level of Venezuela the people might just wake up, but don’t bet on it.
Libertarian or Independent ?
My MPP is Vic Fedeli…a great guy! Very conservative…(I thought)…I am disappointed with recent conversations with him explaining the AGW/Climate Change scam. He won’t diss Brown, and he won’t discuss the science disproving the the fear mongering propaganda.
Jimmy -my favourite story teller! Thank you Kate !
Jason Kenney asks a tough question to which there will be no real answer: “Canadian Military planners want the F-38. The question is what does Justin Trudeau know that the RCAF and the IDF don’t”. I think most of us can answer that with one word, nothing!
Every time I see something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqexi80WpkE
I’m glad I never had children.
This is the tactic that the Bolshies used in the early Soviet Union after their revolution. They didn’t worry too much about the adults because they were too difficult to convert to “right thinking” because, by virtue of age and experience, they were contaminated by improper ideologies. They started with the children and history tells us what effect that had.
Welcome to Soviet Canada, folks.
Unfortunately, the Alberta PCs aren’t much better. They still behave as if they are the only legitimate ruling party in this province, so uniting with the Wild Rose to boot out the NDP is out of the question for them.
Worse is that they, too, have sold out to the Khmer Vert dogma.
What the heck is an “F-38”? Last time I heard the number was only up to F-35 and it’s a real turkey. Maybe you know something about ‘Murrcan aircraft design plans that the rest of us don’t? Sure hope you don;t mean a P-38 as there will be problems in restarting those production lines.
I vote for the Freedom Party when they run local candidates. The Libertarians are still a little too focused on drug policy for my taste (priorities, people!) and the Freedom Party polls about the same number of votes as the Libertarians.
OOps, that’s really bad, it should read F-35, apologies to Jason Kenney too! Thanks for that!
All you so-called Ontario conservatives, take note. The reason we’ve had a decade and a half of Liberal mismanagement is pretty much all on you bozos. You kept getting yourselves unelectable leaders. Now that the PCs finally have someone who’s willing to be something other than be a dogmatic dickhead, you’re all for bailing. Brilliant, go ahead and give McWynnety another mandate in two years. At this point, I’m more than willing to believe that conservatives have the IQ of houseplants, based on the stupidity I read here. Let me spell this out for you: unite behind Brown and toss Wynne out. Whine about Brown and sit on your hands, we get four more years of Wynne. Simple, no? Or are you too damn moronic to get it?
Yes, the Liberals are to blame for Ontario’s sinking economy, but you dumb conservatives have managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory for two elections now, thanks to electing stupid leaders. Therefore, I now blame the PCs equally for Ontario’s woes.
Good article with good analysis of the motivating mendacity of the Dems smear machine, more desperate and shrill by the day, terrified of the Donald:
“So, he [Mateen] was a gay Muslim Democrat,” notes Jim Treacher for The Daily Caller. “He hit the trifecta of victimhood.” Mateen belonged to too many minority groups, so many that liberals claim at all costs that he cannot be blamed for his own actions. “That means it has to be the gun’s fault, and the NRA’s fault, and the GOP’s fault, and Christians’ fault, and white people’s fault..”
From Nidal Hasan, to the Boston Bombers, the Underwear bomber, the San Bernardino shooting, and now Orlando, the perpetrators of these attacks have drunk from the same poisonous well of sharia-compliant jihadist ideology demanding death to the infidels. Many warnings were ignored or overlooked in these cases. It doesn’t matter whether these were lone wolf terrorists or ISIS-inspired: all of these attacks were carried out in the name of Islam. Obviously, the overwhelming majority of Muslims would never consider committing such an act, and are opposed to such actions.”
Future terrorists will find a way to access guns regardless of the law. The Obama administration is well on its way to issuing green cards to over one million immigrants from majority-Muslim countries before he leaves office. Is anyone confident in the vetting process for all of these people? If the Obama administration and the complicit media continue to deny the real cause of terror, many more Americans will fall victim to terrorists like Omar Mateen.”
I know – d’ya figger? Morality never enters into progressive politics. http://canadafreepress.com/article/media-mislead-about-mateens-motives
Update:
Socialism: a religion of the stomach.
…-
“Venezuela – How to Guide for Creating Starvation in 2016”
“Socialism Strikes Again”
“To create starvation in 2016 requires extraordinary effort. It requires a comprehensive system of coercion that attacks all the institutions that make abundance possible: ownership, international trade, an adaptive price system, the right of commercial innovation.”
“Such a system does exist, however. It goes by the name “socialism.” It is being tried today in a country that was once wealthy, comfortable, and civilized: a country with the largest oil reserves in the world.
Yes, it seems like fiction. It’s not.” http://www.valuewalk.com/2016/06/venezuela-starvation-revolt/
Here’s a fund watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFAEnixx4AI
This is a close-up of the decline and fall of the American Empire at the local level.
We couldn’t even have this kind of discussion at a town council meeting in Canada. Not a chance.
We fell first.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me *thrice*, make me a federal cabinet minister: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPyKKZN5lIA
It isn’t that she’s dumb enough to fall for that nonsense. It’s that the whole cabinet’s filled with dim bulbs like her, all the way to the top.
Sunny (or sunni) ways, folks.
Someone told her she was clever and she went forth and proved them wrong. Sadly she is possibly the smartest of the dumbest the Trudeau Cabinet has to offer up. That is one pathetic bit of work, more to come.
Why would you blame Conservatives for the Hudak loss? He was a decent leader and many of us voted for him. Unfortunately, Ontario is ruled by the unions and that is what defeated Hudak. As for supporting Brown – he does not represent my views, so I do not plan to vote for him. If the Liberals win again, that would be the brain dead left and the unions who support them. If the Ontario economy collapses, blame them.
I know what you mean. I had lots of students like that in my courses, people who thought they were geniuses because the high schools they graduated from told them so.
Imagine the caterwauling I had to contend with when they found out that if they were as smart as they thought they were, they had to demonstrate it to me.
Wow, that’s going to be some stinky protest, hope they have good air exchange, Hillary might choke. It also proves the Republicans have more class!
Just what our society needs right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhU5E36j4Q8#t=21
Yup. Start brainwashing them while they’re young.
The Left: shamelessly messing up lives from early on–and proud of it.
How long before we have those sunni–er, sunny–ways here in Canada? I’m sure Clown Prince wouldn’t mind one bit if they did.
The NDP/Khmer Vert aren’t all that smart. If they were, they would have made this into an environmental issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hWl4WhQROw
The cutout was made from cardboard. Cardboard is a forest product. Forests are part of the (sacred) environment. Therefore, using a cardboard cutout of Red Rachel is a display of anti-green disrespect.
Why not? They’ve turned the incident into a violation of just about everything else.
GC’s a coal-mining town. Now why would a place like that possibly dissolve, eh?
…because China no longer needs Canadian coal. Domestic and Ozzie coal is much cheaper.
PET Cemetery Report.
Liberal Justine PR.
…-
“Canada Pension Plan: Liberals Reach Agreement With Provinces On Reform” (huffpo)
…-
“The dirty secret of a bigger CPP is that it’s to help bail out public-sector pension plans”
“Public-sector pension assets nearly equalled the $1.1 trillion Canadians held in all registered pension plans and dwarfed the $292 billion held by the CPP and QPP.”
“As the federal and provincial governments continue discussing changes to the Canada Pension Plan, it is worth recalling that there are no public discussions of the most important pension issue in Canada: The unsustainable gap between the pensions of public servants and most everyone else. In fact, some critics maintain that the push to expand the CPP is driven by an unspoken need to prop up public-sector pension plans a little longer. However, doing so will only delay the inevitable overhaul of both the benefits and the funding of public-sector pensions.
The key issues surrounding public-service pension-plan benefits are mostly unspoken, both to their members and to taxpayers. Public-sector unions allow their members to believe the fiction that members contribute a fair share of their own retirement benefits, when really, the vast majority is funded by taxpayers. Few people appreciate how the CPP is folded into public-sector pension benefits: since benefits are “defined” in advance, an increase in CPP benefits reduces the amount that a public-sector pension needs to pay out to retired workers (leaving unchanged the total benefit payout to public-sector retirees). Meanwhile, taxpayers are kept in the dark about the full measure of unfunded future benefits they will have to pay, even as they shoulder more of the burden for their own retirement.” http://business.financialpost.com/fp-comment/philip-cross-the-dirty-secret-of-a-bigger-cpp-is-that-its-to-help-bail-out-public-sector-pension-plans
Probably true, but I was thinking along the lines of the Khmer Vert’s assertion that carbon, in all its forms, is the ultimate toxic substance.
Well, if Ontario conservatives want to vote for a Redford in pants in the next provincial election then Brown is your guy.
http://www.torontosun.com/2016/06/19/brown-faces-challenges-in-quest-to-modernize-tories
By the sounds of it, the Ontario PCs might be better off if Brown was replaced by a 2 x 4. At least a piece of lumber can’t do or say anything that’ll do the party any harm and it’s stiff enough that one might think it has a backbone.
Brown impresses me as being a political marshmallow. I hesitate to call him a jellyfish because there are some species that can sting their opponents.
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“We’ve got snacks… we’ve got axes… the only thing missing is booze…”
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More hard hitting journalism from the CBC
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/trudeau-tweets-favourite-hip-album-1.3641988
Kate
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“el gordo
June 20, 2016 at 7:15 pm · Reply
The Ontario Teacher’s Pension Fund owns the Sydney Desalination Plant.
http://www.sydneydesal.com.au/who-we-are/ownership-structure/
Does the OTPF know they bought a lemon?”
from
http://joannenova.com.au/2016/06/bring-on-the-climate-fraud-game-if-exxon-can-be-sued-so-can-al-gore-renewables-insurance-banks/
And a lot more on these desal plants in Oz if you check
As an Ontario Conservative I have no one to vote for so what are the options? Do you go with Stunned Stupid, the Green Witch or the Yakitty Yak? I’ve already told the PC fund raisers I can’t give money to support stupidity IF I have any left after paying exorbitant hydro and utility bills in Wynne’s Ontario.
In a democracy we have choices but when the options are from the best of the worst it’s a tough call. However we will get the government the unions and the Toronto elite want and that will be Lady Plushbottom Wynne tossing money we don’t have to her chosen ones and the green energy bottomless pit.
Don’t they read the news? The Sydney desalination plant is the biggest white elephant ever constructed. The Warmistas insisted there would be no water in Australia by about 10 years ago and there were historic floods after the plants were built.
Socialism: a religion of the stomach.
“Venezuela is convulsing from hunger.”
…-
“Economic collapse leads Venezuelans to riot over food shortages”
“With delivery trucks under constant attack, the nation’s food is now transported under armed guard. Soldiers stand watch over bakeries. The police fire rubber bullets at desperate mobs storming grocery stores, pharmacies and butcher shops. A 4-year-old girl was shot to death as street gangs fought over food.
Venezuela is convulsing from hunger.”
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/economic-collapse-leads-venezuelans-to-riot-over-food-shortages/article30516768/
The Contract with America promised to eliminate 95 specific government programs. None of those programs were eliminated.
Who Killed Conservatism? | The Z Blog
http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=7721
h/t American Digest
Here is a sign of how interested the left is in actually having a conversation. I signed up with rabble.ca a few months ago and was having some interesting conversations on their forums, appropriately called Babble. Today, I discover my account has been blocked due to inappropriate comments. Funny part is that I was always polite. I got called a lot of names. But it is truly an echo chamber. Non-progressive viewpoints are not welcome.
I don’t think Brown realizes how much he has alienated traditional Conservatives — even middle of the road ones, let alone the far right. I miss Tim Hudak.
Yes, Ontario voters are between a rock and a hard place. You and LindaL, and other conservatives from Ontario on this blog, could let the PCs know what you think of them and Brownford and then sit on your hands and purse or wallets for the next election. Maybe when Ontario sinks to the level of Venezuela the people might just wake up, but don’t bet on it.
Libertarian or Independent ?
My MPP is Vic Fedeli…a great guy! Very conservative…(I thought)…I am disappointed with recent conversations with him explaining the AGW/Climate Change scam. He won’t diss Brown, and he won’t discuss the science disproving the the fear mongering propaganda.
Jimmy -my favourite story teller! Thank you Kate !
Jason Kenney asks a tough question to which there will be no real answer: “Canadian Military planners want the F-38. The question is what does Justin Trudeau know that the RCAF and the IDF don’t”. I think most of us can answer that with one word, nothing!
Every time I see something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqexi80WpkE
I’m glad I never had children.
This is the tactic that the Bolshies used in the early Soviet Union after their revolution. They didn’t worry too much about the adults because they were too difficult to convert to “right thinking” because, by virtue of age and experience, they were contaminated by improper ideologies. They started with the children and history tells us what effect that had.
Welcome to Soviet Canada, folks.
Unfortunately, the Alberta PCs aren’t much better. They still behave as if they are the only legitimate ruling party in this province, so uniting with the Wild Rose to boot out the NDP is out of the question for them.
Worse is that they, too, have sold out to the Khmer Vert dogma.
What the heck is an “F-38”? Last time I heard the number was only up to F-35 and it’s a real turkey. Maybe you know something about ‘Murrcan aircraft design plans that the rest of us don’t? Sure hope you don;t mean a P-38 as there will be problems in restarting those production lines.
I vote for the Freedom Party when they run local candidates. The Libertarians are still a little too focused on drug policy for my taste (priorities, people!) and the Freedom Party polls about the same number of votes as the Libertarians.
OOps, that’s really bad, it should read F-35, apologies to Jason Kenney too! Thanks for that!
Before you read today that Nutley was pelted by golf balls, have a look at this Non Democratic Party picture.
http://factscan.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/NDP-Target-job-loss.jpg
Strombo gone; Malean in.
https://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/2016/06/19/ron-maclean-to-replace-strombo-on-hockey-night-in-canada-feschuk.html
It has been discovered that nobody really likes Toronto metrosexual quiche eaters.
All you so-called Ontario conservatives, take note. The reason we’ve had a decade and a half of Liberal mismanagement is pretty much all on you bozos. You kept getting yourselves unelectable leaders. Now that the PCs finally have someone who’s willing to be something other than be a dogmatic dickhead, you’re all for bailing. Brilliant, go ahead and give McWynnety another mandate in two years. At this point, I’m more than willing to believe that conservatives have the IQ of houseplants, based on the stupidity I read here. Let me spell this out for you: unite behind Brown and toss Wynne out. Whine about Brown and sit on your hands, we get four more years of Wynne. Simple, no? Or are you too damn moronic to get it?
Yes, the Liberals are to blame for Ontario’s sinking economy, but you dumb conservatives have managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory for two elections now, thanks to electing stupid leaders. Therefore, I now blame the PCs equally for Ontario’s woes.
Meanwhile, Grande Cache might just go out of existence:
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2016/06/19/northwest-alberta-coal-town-could-dissolve-over-lack-of-funds
GC’s a coal-mining town. Now why would a place like that possibly dissolve, eh?
Good article with good analysis of the motivating mendacity of the Dems smear machine, more desperate and shrill by the day, terrified of the Donald:
“So, he [Mateen] was a gay Muslim Democrat,” notes Jim Treacher for The Daily Caller. “He hit the trifecta of victimhood.” Mateen belonged to too many minority groups, so many that liberals claim at all costs that he cannot be blamed for his own actions. “That means it has to be the gun’s fault, and the NRA’s fault, and the GOP’s fault, and Christians’ fault, and white people’s fault..”
From Nidal Hasan, to the Boston Bombers, the Underwear bomber, the San Bernardino shooting, and now Orlando, the perpetrators of these attacks have drunk from the same poisonous well of sharia-compliant jihadist ideology demanding death to the infidels. Many warnings were ignored or overlooked in these cases. It doesn’t matter whether these were lone wolf terrorists or ISIS-inspired: all of these attacks were carried out in the name of Islam. Obviously, the overwhelming majority of Muslims would never consider committing such an act, and are opposed to such actions.”
Future terrorists will find a way to access guns regardless of the law. The Obama administration is well on its way to issuing green cards to over one million immigrants from majority-Muslim countries before he leaves office. Is anyone confident in the vetting process for all of these people? If the Obama administration and the complicit media continue to deny the real cause of terror, many more Americans will fall victim to terrorists like Omar Mateen.”
I know – d’ya figger? Morality never enters into progressive politics.
http://canadafreepress.com/article/media-mislead-about-mateens-motives
Update:
Socialism: a religion of the stomach.
…-
“Venezuela – How to Guide for Creating Starvation in 2016”
“Socialism Strikes Again”
“To create starvation in 2016 requires extraordinary effort. It requires a comprehensive system of coercion that attacks all the institutions that make abundance possible: ownership, international trade, an adaptive price system, the right of commercial innovation.”
“Such a system does exist, however. It goes by the name “socialism.” It is being tried today in a country that was once wealthy, comfortable, and civilized: a country with the largest oil reserves in the world.
Yes, it seems like fiction. It’s not.”
http://www.valuewalk.com/2016/06/venezuela-starvation-revolt/
Bernie Sanders supporters plan giant “Fart-In” at Hillary appearance. How classy can you get?
http://www.inquisitr.com/3220442/bernie-sanders-fart-in-supporters-promise-flatulent-protest-of-hillary-clinton-convention-speech/
Here’s a fund watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFAEnixx4AI
This is a close-up of the decline and fall of the American Empire at the local level.
We couldn’t even have this kind of discussion at a town council meeting in Canada. Not a chance.
We fell first.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me *thrice*, make me a federal cabinet minister:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPyKKZN5lIA
It isn’t that she’s dumb enough to fall for that nonsense. It’s that the whole cabinet’s filled with dim bulbs like her, all the way to the top.
Sunny (or sunni) ways, folks.
Someone told her she was clever and she went forth and proved them wrong. Sadly she is possibly the smartest of the dumbest the Trudeau Cabinet has to offer up. That is one pathetic bit of work, more to come.
Why would you blame Conservatives for the Hudak loss? He was a decent leader and many of us voted for him. Unfortunately, Ontario is ruled by the unions and that is what defeated Hudak. As for supporting Brown – he does not represent my views, so I do not plan to vote for him. If the Liberals win again, that would be the brain dead left and the unions who support them. If the Ontario economy collapses, blame them.
I know what you mean. I had lots of students like that in my courses, people who thought they were geniuses because the high schools they graduated from told them so.
Imagine the caterwauling I had to contend with when they found out that if they were as smart as they thought they were, they had to demonstrate it to me.
Wow, that’s going to be some stinky protest, hope they have good air exchange, Hillary might choke. It also proves the Republicans have more class!
Just what our society needs right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhU5E36j4Q8#t=21
Yup. Start brainwashing them while they’re young.
The Left: shamelessly messing up lives from early on–and proud of it.
An interesting story of a Czech doctor working in Germany.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxM2cPk-pEk
Actually it is quite mind boggling.
How long before we have those sunni–er, sunny–ways here in Canada? I’m sure Clown Prince wouldn’t mind one bit if they did.
The NDP/Khmer Vert aren’t all that smart. If they were, they would have made this into an environmental issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hWl4WhQROw
The cutout was made from cardboard. Cardboard is a forest product. Forests are part of the (sacred) environment. Therefore, using a cardboard cutout of Red Rachel is a display of anti-green disrespect.
Why not? They’ve turned the incident into a violation of just about everything else.
GC’s a coal-mining town. Now why would a place like that possibly dissolve, eh?
…because China no longer needs Canadian coal. Domestic and Ozzie coal is much cheaper.
PET Cemetery Report.
Liberal Justine PR.
…-
“Canada Pension Plan: Liberals Reach Agreement With Provinces On Reform” (huffpo)
…-
“The dirty secret of a bigger CPP is that it’s to help bail out public-sector pension plans”
“Public-sector pension assets nearly equalled the $1.1 trillion Canadians held in all registered pension plans and dwarfed the $292 billion held by the CPP and QPP.”
“As the federal and provincial governments continue discussing changes to the Canada Pension Plan, it is worth recalling that there are no public discussions of the most important pension issue in Canada: The unsustainable gap between the pensions of public servants and most everyone else. In fact, some critics maintain that the push to expand the CPP is driven by an unspoken need to prop up public-sector pension plans a little longer. However, doing so will only delay the inevitable overhaul of both the benefits and the funding of public-sector pensions.
The key issues surrounding public-service pension-plan benefits are mostly unspoken, both to their members and to taxpayers. Public-sector unions allow their members to believe the fiction that members contribute a fair share of their own retirement benefits, when really, the vast majority is funded by taxpayers. Few people appreciate how the CPP is folded into public-sector pension benefits: since benefits are “defined” in advance, an increase in CPP benefits reduces the amount that a public-sector pension needs to pay out to retired workers (leaving unchanged the total benefit payout to public-sector retirees). Meanwhile, taxpayers are kept in the dark about the full measure of unfunded future benefits they will have to pay, even as they shoulder more of the burden for their own retirement.”
http://business.financialpost.com/fp-comment/philip-cross-the-dirty-secret-of-a-bigger-cpp-is-that-its-to-help-bail-out-public-sector-pension-plans
Probably true, but I was thinking along the lines of the Khmer Vert’s assertion that carbon, in all its forms, is the ultimate toxic substance.