Now is the time at SDA when we juxtapose!
Toronto Star, May 2015: Justin Trudeau pledges tax hike on richest 1 per cent in Liberal economic proposal
La Presse, October 2015: The Liberal leader Justin Trudeau MP for Papineau, a riding in Quebec, but he resides and pays his provincial taxes in Ontario…
… thus saving 4.1%.
What do Quebecers think about Trudeau not paying any income tax in Quebec? If I was a Quebecer it would really piss me off. That has to be just about the slimiest thing a Member of Parliament could do.
Hmm…
Just minute now, provincial taxes are completely irrelevant in a federal election because, er, the Feds don’t set them.
PM Harper’s riding is Calgary Southwest but he lives in Ottawa. Is he paying Ontario or Alberta provincial tax?
Mulcair’s riding is Outremont but he lives in Ottawa. Is he paying Ontario or Québec provincial tax?
Well one thing we can guarantee under a Trudeau government, trust funds won’t be facing any additional taxes.
If Harper has got the same setup as Justin, it would COST him money (although I’m sure Notley will fix this very soon). Harper has a house in Calgary but his family is in Ottawa.
Seriously though, if Justin has his family in Ottawa, pursuing this is a bit of a waste of time. Unless people have a different way of looking at things in Quebec.
Trudeau is the one campaigning on making the wealthy pay their “fair share”. So yeah, it matters.
Would that be like former Liberal Prime Minister Paul Martin flagging most of his Canadian Steamship line in Liberia to avoid paying taxes on them while serving as Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien’s Minister of Finance?
Standard Liberal activities, that’s all. It’s the principal involving the 1% concept as I see it.
MP pay:
http://canadaonline.about.com/od/houseofcommons/fl/Salaries-Canadian-MPs.htm
The big question is when will the Liberal Party of Canada pay back the money they stole from taxpayers with AdScam?
They can grandstand all they want about people paying their fair share after they pay it back and get square with Canadian taxpayers.
According to the bean counter quoted in the article Justin is complying, unless his wife and kids are still back in Montreal. My understanding is that they are in Ottawa.
The article says Mulcair and Duceppe both still pay PQ taxes voluntarily so I suppose this might not look good on Justin in La Belle Province.
Rest assured, PMSH is NOT saving any money living in MORONtariowe, vs Alberia, taxes or otherwise.
THAT’s what the story is about, Pony’s AVOIDANCE of taxes, as a ONE Percenter.
Say one thing, do another, THAT’S the Fiberal way!
Minime Truedough is running the same kind of rip offs as PET did – Pare Pierre did it by using tax revenues to buy his failing Petrofina shares for twice its market value then rebranding it Petro Canada – now minime is dipping into the trough by charging speaking fees as an MP and tax dodging like a pro – what else haven’t we heard of he’s got his thumbs in – wait till he gets the strings to the public purse.
40.2 divided by 36.1 = 1.11
He is saving a lot more than 4 %.
From the Oct 2015 link:
“Quebec has the highest tax rates in Ontario”.
Still trying to get my head around that one.
You can find all sorts of interesting stories in La Presse:
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/elections-federales/201510/15/01-4910258-un-candidat-liberal-surpris-en-train-duriner-en-public.php
I’m perfectly uninterested in whether Harper is paying more provincial tax or Trudeau is paying less.
Provincial taxes are an argument for provincial election debates, not federal ones.
There are surely plenty of issues you can use to pillory Trudeau The Younger. But this ain’t one of them.
The article is so badly written (or translated) that I really don’t know which province has the highest rates – although I would suspect that it’s Quebec.
It’s alright when Trudeau does it, so….
No bias here, eh?
“The leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, the outgoing Prime Minister Stephen Harper has revealed no information to La Presse, except to confirm that he has never held a foreign bank account.
(Emphasis mine)
James,
Depends. 4.1% of what?
Johnny has GROSS EARNINGS of $100,000 CAD and can pay taxes in either Ontario or Quebec. If he pays in Ontario his NET EARNINGS are:
$100,000 * (1-0.361) = $63,900
If he pays in Quebec his NET EARNINGS are:
$100,000 * (1-0.402) = $59,800
The difference is $4,100 which is 4.1% of his GROSS EARNINGS.
But Justin has a Family Trust so this math is likely irrelevant.
There are vast differences between the two C-51 parties.
With the Liberals, you can’t associate with the Ford brothers.
With the Conservatives, you can’t name them.
It absolutely IS.
Once again, it is about Fiberal HYPOCRISY.
“Make the rich pay” to quote a certain Dauphin.
Oh, and Marc Garneau just stated on the Corpse P&P that Trudozo is setting a new standard in ethics……..over and over……so the Fibs are going to even lower than a snake’s belly, didn’t think that was possible.
When it comes to the Fibs, anything and everything is fair game, they are hypocrites to the core!
They are all greedy bastards.
Justin wants “millionaires” to pay more taxes. How does the government determine who is a millionaire?
“so the Fibs are going to even lower than a snake’s belly, didn’t think that was possible.”
Lower than a snake’s rectum. You’re welcome.
That’s a translation error – the word used “sortant” also means incumbent. Relax, it’s google.
Own a house in Toronto or Vancouver?
Taxes are for little people
Well Paul Panama Martin is his hero.
Taxes are for the little people, those “middle classes” the Hair Apparent speaks of.
I am still amazed that people vote for a person who has never resided in their region.
See Justy knows that small business is just a tax dodge, therefor all you tradespeople who are dodging taxes, can go back to being regulated by the Boss.
After all is not every Canadian the inheritor of a trust fund?
Thanks for the comments OZ and Scar you saved me another rant. Although I do think that the slimiest comment ever made by a Liberal came from Chretien when he was called into the Gomery inquiry and stated as he played with his little ball,”What’s a million here or there!” For most Canadians it takes them over half a lifetime of employment to earn a million dollars. We don’t all have an MP’s salary and pension and we can’t knock off work for a day to go and give a pep talk at $20,000 a pop. But hey they keep telling us they’re our moral, ethical and intellectual superiors.
And is Trudeau collecting the MP housing alliance (same as Duffy?) even though Montreal is just two hours down the road? Maybe the better comparison is Brazeau. Trudeau could easily have an apartment in Ottawa and go home to Quebec on weekends.
FredR, the banks own most of those houses.
63,900 / 59,800 = 1.0685
Both Messrs. Harper and Mulcair have official residences in Ottawa and – by reason of their positions – are required to be there even when Parliament is not in session, M. Harper in particular. However, if M. Harper is paying Ontario tax, then he’s paying considerably more than he would were he to declare Alberta residency. For M. Mulcair, however, the opposite is true. If he’s pulling the Trudeau trick, he’s saving 4% plus by being an Ontario resident.
By the way, CRA can and does make decisions on people’s residency. A lot of oil patch workers left their families down East while heading out to Fort Mac to work. Naturally, they filed as Alberta residents. However, those who left families behind found themselves being reassessed and taxed as residents of the provinces where their families resided. This was particularly true for those workers who were flown in to Fort Mac, worked for several weeks, and then were flown home for a week or so break. It seems residency was where the family – if not the heart – was. Bad break for Alberta who lost out on tax collection even as the province had to provide infrastructure and support services for the workers; good luck for the provinces for whom these men were deemed resident. Have heard, though, that fly-in-fly-out workers are being the first to be let go, so the oilpatch pain is being spread across Canada.
Can anyone find out how much his family’ trust is. I suspect north of 20million,
I guess justine is trying to pull in potential voters from the remnants occupy movement, which is of no surprise to me and the rest of the readers here.
The translation should be “Quebec has a higher tax rate than Ontario does for individuals” or more freely “Quebec’s individual tax rate is higher than Ontario’s”.
Justin Trudeau has stated that up to half of all small businesses are just ways for rich people to avoid taxes. It’s funny. The reason Justin and his dad never had to work a day in their lives was that grandpa had a small business, a string of gas stations in Quebec. Is Justin saying his grandfather was a tax cheat? Perhaps a forensic audit of grandpa’s finances is in order.
BTW, is trust fund income taxed at all or taxed at a lower rate in Canada? I ask because I’m pretty sure it isn’t taxed in the U.S. that’s why the “Old Money” people don’t mind new, entrepreneurial money having the cr@p taxed out of it; and continue to vote Democrat along with using tax dodges like Justin’s. (See “yacht, John Kerry.)
Steve,
I recall when Bob Rae (now a key Shiny Pony advisor!) campaigned on making the rich pay, and became Ontario premier. Under his benevolent and social justice-oriented regime, if you made CAD 53,000 a year,you were in the 50% tax bracket. Essentially, the Rae government defined “rich” as “Anyone with a job”. I have a sneaking suspicion that Shiny Pony’s “make the rich pay” will put a crimp in every working Canadian’s pay-cheque too. As for the actual rich, they’re mostly already non-resident for tax purposes anyway.
BTW, just thought it worth also noting that the top 5% of earners already pay more than 50% of all income taxes. Yet, somehow, in leftard minds, they are not paying their fair share. Always amusing how the people who pay no taxes at all are always so incensed about tax breaks for the “rich”, and cry out in anger, “Where’s MY tax break?”
As for MPs, do note that they each get roughly CAD300k (depending on the riding and its location) as an annual tax-free expense allowance to run a constituency office. Most of them hire their spouse or a child out of that, for a little quick and easy double-dipping. Then there’s the free airline tickets (er, travel points), which would also be a taxable benefit in the real world.
“I recall when Bob Rae campaigned on making the rich pay, and became Ontario premier.”
Hey, my son idolized Bob Rae when he was premier.
Mind you, my son was an Ontario school student at the time so he really only idolized the premier for his “Rae Days”.
kind of like voting for a guy who is a citizen of france.