Yet another ‘consensus’ bites the dust.
Growing crops to make “green” biofuel harms the environment and drives up food prices, IPCC admits in dramatic U-turn
No one saw that coming, uh uh.
Yet another ‘consensus’ bites the dust.
Growing crops to make “green” biofuel harms the environment and drives up food prices, IPCC admits in dramatic U-turn
No one saw that coming, uh uh.
It’s about time! Now we need to get rid of all the other green-energy scams being foisted upon us. It has taken far too long already for the bio-fuel fraud to finally be reversed. At this rate, the entire global warming scam will be completely discounted by 2030, long enough for most of the con-artists pushing it to have enjoyed their millions of ill-gotten snake-oil profits.
ALL so-called “green” initiatives are bad for the environment. The greenies simply overlook them.
uh! uh! Lance. Cheers;
Message to the UN – Stop feeding the Third world and there will be plenty of “cheap” food to go around.
If they ate what they grew themselves they’d eventually find a “sustainable population” balance.
Even Gore admitted core-based ethanol was a mistake—in 2010.
Even George Bush was wrong.
The biofuel lobby is strong, as evidenced by its influence on both Gore and GWB.
Some who have been drinking the CO-too-lade and pushing their destructive views on the rest of us are admitting reality? Finally?
I don’t expect a mad rush away from that cult, just individuals quietly slipping back to sanity.
People simply have to come to the understanding that almost all our of standard of living comes from oxidizing carbon. None of the trade-offs are viable. The only choice is between industrialization and the stone age.
Hmm… yes.
Far too much of the Third World; just enough of Knight 99 though, eh?
The fools who supported this will slink back under the rock and deny they ever believed in it in the first place,while the people who made millions and billions off of it will quietly smile and know that while the good times are over, one day another fear-driven crisis will arise,and the same people will be there once again to exploit it.
Keep the peasants in a constant state of fear and give’em enough welfare to keep ’em happy, while we slip back into feudalism.
What was that drug they distributed in “Brave New World”, “Soma”?
That’s next on the agenda after they convince the people that the sun’s rays are causing temporary insanity,even Gun Violence, but with just two of these per day it’ll all go away.
Preach it, scar. Anyone who tells us we’re better off not burning coal and oil for fuel is a liar and a shill for some greenie-backed industry, plain and simple. There’s no “peak carbon”, only naysayers with their hands in the pockets of Big Green.
Growing corn for ethanol was the biggest biofuel scam of all. It takes as much energy to produce the ethanol as is contained in the ethanol. Unbelievably inefficient and stupid.
The biodiesel additive to reduce particulate pollution in Canadian diesel fuel comes from non-food grade crop waste canola. The oil is extracted and the seed cake is used for animal feed.
Uninformed people lump all biofuels together, however confusing ethanol with biodiesel is like confusing gasoline with diesel fuel. Idiots that do that in their vehicles soon realize their mistake.
Yes thank you, I can afford it, even grow some of my own for organic freshness on those frosty fall mornings over hand-picked coffee while listening to the migrating birds sing in my private yard.
Exactly!! It’s a mistake to feed 3rd world people who produce nothing to exchange for food. The 3rd world mega-slums are full of them and they’re breeding like rodents as long as the west keeps feeding them. We should stop meddling and let populations find a balance with their ability to feed themselves.
“Exactly!! It’s a mistake to feed 3rd world people who produce nothing to exchange for food. The 3rd world mega-slums are full of them and they’re breeding like rodents as long as the west keeps feeding them. We should stop meddling and let populations find a balance with their ability to feed themselves.”
And with that statement, it was now entirely unnecessary to waste another moment on anything “north of 60” had to say.
north of 60 >
Exactly repeated,
…………and then like some magical miracle, without the use of bomb’s and young lives, you also now have the greatest weapon of persuasion known to mankind.
Who knew?
People simply have to come to the understanding that almost all our of standard of living comes from oxidizing carbon. Posted by: scar
Remmember that biofuels are hydrocarbons too.
We have to be much more selective about which hydrocarbons we use. Liquid biofuels were never a viable alternative for widespread use.
Remember that trees are biofuel, and in cases where one lives in a forest, they are a good source of heating fuel.
Details are important, generalizations are generally incorrect.
JJM, nobody is forcing you to read or believe anything are they? If you don’t like it, then don’t read it, the choice is yours.
Typically, Third World countries have people starving not because they can’t grow enough food, but because they don’t grow enough food, due to inefficient agricultural practices, or corruption, or political inertia, or all at once.
Case in point, Zimbabwe, where profitable and productive white-owned farms were seized, broken up, and doled out to cronies of Mugabe, and the land now lies fallow.
Well. Maybe his comment could revise, but when the look at the FOOLS at the UN and how they hate GM crops. You can really begin to wonder about feeding the starving.
…………and then like some magical miracle, without the use of bomb’s and young lives, you also now have the greatest weapon of persuasion known to mankind.
Exactly.
The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U. S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing this year the greatest amount of free Meals and Food Stamps ever, to 50 million people.
Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U. S. Department of the Interior, asks us “Please Do Not Feed the Animals.” Their stated reason for the policy is because “The animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.”
they don’t grow enough food, due to inefficient agricultural practices, or corruption, or political inertia, or all at once.
I’d guess it’s ‘all at once’. The former British colonies in Africa used to export food, now the land can’t feed the people. There’s only one cure for stupid – extinction.
If someone wants to spend their own money to send food to the 3rd world, that’s their choice, however I don’t want my tax dollars wasted on useless foreign aid that mostly ends up going to corrupt government officials and warlords.
Good editorial cartoon on Ontario’s Green foolishness
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/JyECrNo6qiEwDrfZElvHUQ–/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9NzExO2NyPTE7Y3c9NjQwO2R4PTA7ZHk9MDtmaT11bGNyb3A7aD03MDA7cT03NTt3PTYzMA–/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/news/2014-03-24/0b9719c0-b359-11e3-a9f8-79c397dfc743_140324-Lind-Unicorn.jpg
north of 60 >
“….Please Do Not Feed the Animals.” Their stated reason for the policy is because “The animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.”
LOL – I’ll need to remember that one, sums things up perfectly.
Of course we can also add in medicine, luxury goods, student visas, work visa’s, telecommunications, et al.
The Saudi’s don’t seem to do well without their Mercedes Benz, Rolex watches, Armani suits, or Oxford Educations for the brats. They’d trade oil and do allot more for us if we made those items privileges instead of rights.
“And with that statement, it was now entirely unnecessary to waste another moment on anything “north of 60″ had to say”.
I disagree. What he said is cruel and heartless but he does have a valid point. Many African countries used to be self-sustaining so therefore they can be again. It’s like our Indian/welfare situation here in Canada, the more you make them dependent, the more dependent they will be.
Even though My brain tells me one thing, my heart tells me another. I cannot but want to help the children in these countries. I give to organizations such as The Call of the Poor and Mary’s Meals that use very little of their funds for administration or advertising.
North of 60’s point about our government giving foreign aid and how it is used is also valid.
River Rat >
“Even though My brain tells me one thing, my heart tells me another”
Which is precisely why a portion of the Liberal Left elitist UN crowd creates mass starvation by artificially inflating Third World populations beyond their natural carrying capacity.
THEN they like to tell us that one small western child produces more garbage and CO2 than an African village.
Then they tell us that we need to import millions of non to nil CO2 producing African’s (of their creation) to become western carbon emitters at 100X their previous earth poisoning status.
Hard to follow the logic, no?
“Which is precisely why a portion of the Liberal Left elitist UN crowd creates mass starvation by artificially inflating Third World populations beyond their natural carrying capacity”.
Hmmmm. . . Not sure what you mean by this??? How exactly does the UN inflate Third World populations? Is it something in the water?
River Rat >
“How exactly does the UN inflate Third World populations”
“Free” food courtesy of western tax’s and subsequent rising food prices.
Instead of teaching them to farm and be self-sufficient, they drop millions of tons of grain and medicine on their villages to subside at extreme poverty levels.
Thus 1 million starving African villagers soon becomes 10 million starving African villagers.
It’s not that difficult to understand, a little research into African demographics and Aid verses Starvation trends over the last 40 years is enough proof in the pudding.
The UN is no one’s friend. There is a method to their madness, but it’s so blindingly unscrupulous, we assume it’s simply stupidity.
I know the UN is no ones friend nor are they simply stupid. They have an agenda and one that does not bode well except for a few elites. They are total hypocrites sucking money out of world governments for no reason but their own self aggrandizement . When they let what happened in Rwanda occur without lifting a finger to protect the innocent, even though they had troops there, I was incensed. The organizations I support are Christian ones with no ties to the UN.
Maybe you think I’m adding to the problem, and perhaps I am, but my faith requires that I help in whatever way I can. So I try to do that in a way that doesn’t aid the hypocrites.
River Rat >
I’m making no personal judgment about you, most of us do what we think is the right thing to do.
You are absolutely spot on about the UN, in war and political treachery watching what the enemy does or doesn’t do is part of the stratagy in itself.
The humanitarian or environmental angle of the world’s power elites has nothing whatsoever to do with preserving humanity or the environment. Its multidimensional chess played on several levels utilizing both useful idiots and natural human empathy to create biological weapons or pawns against ourselves.
PS: What was that old biblical saying again “Give a man a fish……..”
Don’t know if that’ quote is in the bible but I know what it means. I do know a bible quote that says, “If a man will not work he shall not eat”.
In your previous post I hope I’m the natural human empathy and not the useful idiot. 🙂
Heh, I looked it up, it’s not a Biblical quote, but a good one regardless:
“Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime”.
Origins:
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/give-a-man-a-fish.html
Interestingly here is a charitable organization that seems to base itself on that principle.
http://www.teachamantofish.org.uk/
Apparently dead babies are also a biofuel!
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/03/24/two-uk-hospitals-incinerated-the-remains-of-dead-babies-for-heat/
–Bad News
When enviroclowns, rent seeking scammers, and vote whoring politicians collide, the
results for energy saving sure things like bio oil are always expensive and stupid.
When enviroclowns, rent seeking scammers, and vote wh*ring politicians collide, the
results for energy saving sure things like bio oil are always expensive and stupid.
“Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all weekend.” So, you have improved his lifestyle immensely.
I read somewhere that they make cosmetics from them too.
Life sure is cheap in the 21st Century.
“Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all weekend.”
Better still:
“Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you force him to buy a fishing licence.”
“Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you can get rid of him for a day.
You mean, if the world’s largest exporter of corn burns 40% of its crop each year, as the US does, then food prices rise? Impossible. The radical left will no doubt get to the bottom of this, and find that the Koch brothers are orchestrating this operating their lair in a disused Minuteman III silo, somewhere in Wyoming, or from Diick Cheney’s ranch (same thing).
When people are convinced that CO2 must be regulated by government, they hand over total control of their lives,
even their lives themselves, to that government. The government can shut down almost any business supposedly
in order to control CO2. It can even kill people – “your carbon footprint is too big – we must reduce it – here,
put this plastic bag over your head.”
That is why the drive against a rather innocuous and even useful molecule is Satanic.
Just when I thought he could not get worse, he proves me wrong. He extols the virtues of bio-fuels, which is even less efficient than his beloved PV panels.
It was just revealed that England is
now burning fetuses at hospitals in
their new bio-fuel scheme. Sorry
dude, but all the kitchen grease and
aborted babies in the world will never
be more than a tiny percentage of the
total of energy production!
But it gets even worse, he reveals
himself to be just another radical
environmentalist who subscribes to
the neo-Luddite and neo-Malthusian
ideologies.
Where have I heard the spiel about
killing off the little brown people
in the third world before?
“This is as good a way to get rid of
them as any,” Charles Wursta, chief
scientist for the Environmental
Defense Fund, on the ban of DDT in
third world countries.
Ted Turner, AKA Mr. Hanoi Jane Fonda
once said that we need to kill off
9/10 the worlds population, so that
those who remain (Liberal elitists)
can live in harmony with nature.
I am a student of history. No. of
60 is going to be as dead as Ted
Turner and Jane Fonda!
What he said is cruel and heartless but he does have a valid point. Many African countries used to be self-sustaining so therefore they can be again. It’s like our Indian/welfare situation here in Canada, the more you make them dependent, the more dependent they will be.
Even though My brain tells me one thing, my heart tells me another. I cannot but want to help the children in these countries. –RR
Perhaps I’m cruel and heartless about starving children in 3rd world mega slums. There is only so much I can give, so I give all I can to the local food bank so that kids in my community are not starving. What little I can give will make a big difference here, whereas that same amount will accomplish little or nothing on the other side of the world by the time it gets there and everybody along the way gets their cut.
the Liberal Left elitist UN crowd creates mass starvation by artificially inflating Third World populations beyond their natural carrying capacity. –K99
Exactly correct. Meddling only makes the situation worse, but it does create dependency and a huge lucrative business with lots of executive positions to look after those dependents.
THEN they like to tell us that one small western child produces more garbage and CO2 than an African village. –K99
Those kids in my community who just might get a better education because they go to school with a belly full of breakfast from the food bank, may well produce more garbage and CO2, but it’s also much more likely they will use that education and become productive humans and accomplish a lot more in their lives than merely producing another dozen mouths which they can’t feed, like those kids in the 3rd world slums.
I’ll give my charity where it will do the most good.
Yes, Africa fed itself and exported food a few decades ago under colonial rule. Now that it’s ruled by corrupt politicians and warlords who come from it’s own people, it’s population has grown unchecked and people are starving. In most African countries 1% owns 99% of the wealth, and they don’t share it with their people. That’s Africa’s problem to solve, not ours. Our feeding that non productive 99% only makes it worse because all they do is breed more mouths to feed.
“What he said is cruel and heartless but he does have a valid point.”
No, he doesn’t.
There is a world of difference between concern over the foibles of UN aid programmes and consigning whole populations of human beings to the status of “rodents”.
Alternative Energy eh..??
yea, well if I had a 40-50 acre plot of land with a small stream (micor-Hydro), on it in an area with decent annual wind speeds (12-15′ turbine), at 100″ off the ground and 200 days a year sunshine (3kw solar array), I would likely produce my own energy.
Problem is that there just aren’t enough of those 50 acre spots on the planet and those that are, are simply way out of reach financially for the majority…so for now, we are stuck with fossil fuels & industrial hydro.
Industrial wind is a disaster as is industrial solar. Both costing taxpayers huge increases with zero benefits.
I believe the only way is for a massive investment in NUCLEAR Energy…and not in the traditional manner of utilizing U235/238 in water cooled/based reactors. Rather we really need to look at Thorium based nuclear power..from what I see and read it very well could be the Technology that is Doable and provide the BASELOAD power that we need for a truly sustainable future and in unlimited portions.
FYI: I work in the Oil Sands folks.
Just because you don’t like how north of 60 expresses his opinion doesn’t negate that he has a valid point. I didn’t particularly like how he said it either but I doubt he’d consider lessons in diplomacy.
“There is a world of difference between concern over the foibles of UN aid programmes”. – this is an example of what is not a valid point. The point is that Africa is capable of feeding it’s own but can’t because most of the countries in Africa are run by thugs who treat their own people like rodents. The UN aid programs came after this fact.
I can understand the frustration of watching these countries destroy themselves and not wanting to participate in their destruction by letting the thugs off the hook with aid.
Fine then, adopt some of the rodents to come live with you, or you spend your money to feed them. Don’t expect the rest of us to partake in your hobby.
consigning whole populations of human beings to the status of “rodents”.
I stated that the humans in third world mega slums breed like rodents.
Where is your proof that they don’t? Got any at all?
“Don’t expect the rest of us to partake in your hobby.”
I agree with that!
Same reason I could care less about abortion, pathetic people are plenty free to murder their unwanted spawn on their own, why should I pay for it.
The Liberal Left want’s it all, providing it’s my money they get to use. Feeding the third world black & brown people into epic levels of starvation or murdering millions of little black babies across the western world is not something I want to pay for.
The liberal Left insists on it.
“Same reason I could care less about abortion, pathetic people are plenty free to murder their unwanted spawn on their own, why should I pay for it”.
That “unwanted spawn” is a helpless human being. It has no rights in this country. It can be brutally murdered right up until it emerges from the body of the woman who carried it. It can be burned as fuel or made into cosmetics as we’ve learned from other posts.
I don’t want to pay for that either but I care very much that it is happening. It’s inhuman and it reflects on all of us that it happens in our country.