20 Replies to “Honey, I Finished The Crimea”

  1. I found interesting that, around 1900, much of the Balkins and Crimea and what is now (for the moment)southern Ukraine was part of Germany.
    Didn’t know that…..

  2. According to Tacitus in 91 AD, the Huns were said to be living near the Caspian Sea and by about 150 AD had migrated southeast into the Caucasus and into the Crimea about 350AD.
    Originally a tribal Hun (400-450AD) hangout the Ukraine has changed hands a great deal. At one point Crimea was an outpost of Byzantine Christendom. The Crimea has spent a great deal of time changing hands with each century invariably bringing new ’empire builders’.
    It appears the Crimea spent a great deal of time under the Cuman nomadic culture. Thereafter from the Ghengis Khan Mongol Golden Horde derivatives to the Crimean Khanate for a few hundred years, but of course the Tatars mostly got shipped off to Siberia courtesy of Stalin. Of those deported roughly 45% died of hunger, disease, and thirst.
    Further the Ukraine got its first start way back with Kievan Rus and later with the Ukraine Cossacks forming fortresses and defenses from Tatar incursions.
    http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?linkpath=pages\C\O\Cossacks.htm
    Periodically, punctuated by Polish Lithuanian domination.
    The Russian domination of Crimea from an historical root point of view is relatively recent.
    After the fall of the Soviet Union the Ukraine emerged as independent state with well defined borders. Putin has set about to ‘re-Russify’ those previously dominated outposts of Soviet influence. ie Georgia, Ukraine, and next on Putin’s list?
    So the next areas with larger Russian populations needing “Sudetenland Protection” would be eastern Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Kazakhstan etc…
    Cheers
    Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group “True North”

  3. Don’t forget it is Russian official policy that anyone born within the borders of the former Tsarist Empire (like say half of Poland and any former republik) is eligible for a Russian passport.

  4. Russia, under Catherine the Great, annexed Crimea in 1783. Potemkin played a big role, as did the birth of the United States of America. It has remained a Russian vassal right up to the day Khrushchev “gave” it away.

  5. I have now perused this fascinating presentation five times. I do envy those who can quickly sum up and take a firm position. This would be against Russia presumably.
    Yet the changes often show what is today Russia over a long time period. This indicates Russia was established where the Ukraine is today.
    In England as schoolboys, we were of course thrilled by the accounts of the “Charge of the Light Brigade”. Florence Nightingale was revered for her work in nursing wounded soldiers. Her base was Scutari, on Turkish soil. This in the years 1851-1855.
    The ironic thing is that absolutely nothing about the conflict’s reasons was ever even hinted at. Not in my history books anyway.
    I shake my head, as I now find out Russia’s reason to fight was the possible persecution of Christians, by the Turks. Britain saw that as a Russian excuse to extend it’s power.
    Turkey fought alongside Britain and France in that war. Sixty years later at Gallipoli, the British, Australians and New Zealanders were locked in a death struggle. This against the redoubtable Turks.
    War creates strange alliances and later strange enemies.

  6. Yes, in 1918, Hetman Skoropadski, in order to thwart the socialist and or Bolshevik takeover of a now independent Ukraine had an arrangement with Germany and the Austro-Hungarians and who then aided the Hetman through occupation of all of Ukraine and the Rostov region of Russia until November when they began to leave. Some of them were in the village where my wife’s Gpa lived at the time. They taught some of the young men how to fight Bolos.
    Hans, great summary. Paul Magocsi in “A History of Ukraine” expands considerably on this.
    Now that was fascinating map display.

  7. Interesting how nuclear deterrent stabilized borders. The isotope has an effect of keeping tyrants within their borders – something Pres. Bam Bam needs to understand.

  8. Putin has set about to ‘re-Russify’ those previously dominated outposts of Soviet influence. ie Georgia, Ukraine, and next on Putin’s list?
    So the next areas with larger Russian populations needing “Sudetenland Protection” would be eastern Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Kazakhstan etc…

    Idle ‘what if’ speculation with no purpose besides attempting to inflame and polarize a discussion.

  9. Interesting summary Hans. I too like history but apparently I’m out of date on terms. I grew up with “Tartar” rather than “Tatar”. But then I also grew up with “Peking” rather than “Beijing”. Dates me doesn’t it. So it goes…….

  10. Take note of countries like Sweden Norway Denmark and England.
    Nobody wants your dark cold damp climate or your country.
    Moral: live where the climate is cold and damp.

  11. LAS, you an empty box????
    Interesting map video, now I know were Bohunks come from:-)))

  12. When I was working in the Netherlands I read about an old man in Eastern Europe, I forget where, who had
    been the national of five different countries, and had never left his home town. I mentioned this to my senior
    colleagues, who had lived through the `30s, and they quickly identified the area
    “They say the lion and the lizard keep
    The courts where Jamshyd gloried and drank deep.”

  13. And in the latest news
    “Russia signaled concern on Wednesday at Estonia’s treatment of its large ethnic Russian minority,”
    Nothing to see here. None of our business. Move along.

  14. On the fascinating map of a 1000 years of changing borders. It seems to me the original format that I observed has been changed. Much has been either not shown or deleted. The continuing dates do not seem to be posted. These indicating the date changes took place.
    I am probably slow on the uptake, but I cannot help but notice this.

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