42 Replies to “Y2Kyoto: Iceland VS Canada”

  1. I bet in Iceland when they saw Lord of the Rings on the big screen they went, “Wow, what an incredible documentary.”

  5. Maybe we should start a fund to raise enough money so that Lizzie in a Tizzie May could have that graph tattooed on her forehead.
    It would be a permanent counterbalance to her standard fare of eco hysteria, greenie sensationalism and AGW hyperbole.

  7. Speaking of graphs, why do they always start at the end of the coldest period in recent history. If they start in 1935, they would look flat.

  8. You missed your calling Kate. Forget breeding weird little dogs and painting stuff on motorcycle gas tanks… you should have been a scientician what with all of these graphs n’ stuff you repost. It’s never too late to go back to school! But wait… who needs school? Learnin’s for dummies.
    (And is believing in Elves is somehow crazier than believing their is an all powerful ghost in the sky who made the world in 6 days?)

  9. (And is believing in Elves is somehow crazier than believing their is an all powerful ghost in the sky who made the world in 6 days?)
    The short answer is yes.

  10. No, if they had consulted elves they’d have been more likely to get their climate prediction right.

  12. Geez, now the Greenies, Idlers and other assorted nutbar utopians will start protecting the elves who no doubt reside in our boreal forests.

  13. Well, if I had to choose what to believe in, I’d go with the elves, because the elves at least offer the possibility that you might actually get something of utility every 25th of December.
    Which is a lot more than you can say about climate models. Even if the climate models were as real as elves, what does belief in them actually get you, other than a whole big bill for a whole bunch of junk that you’re suffered to use and which contributes negative utility to your life?

  14. As pointed out by one of the commenters at WUWT, the climate model produced by U Vic is, in fact, spectacularly successful.
    Since it projects what the mean global temperature (if you believe in the utility/validity of such a metric in a system which is open and not in thermodynamic equilibrium) would be if atmospheric CO2 concentration were a major driver of mean global temperature, and since the actual mean global temperature diverges from that model outside the 95% confidence interval of that model, then it demonstrates conclusively that atmospheric CO2 concentration is not a significant driver of mean global temperature.
    Now can we stop squandering billions of dollars on “green” energy, “carbon capture” and other Lagadoan idiocy?

  15. His Supreme Ego, Andrew Weaver, has an email, you can remind him how wrong he is, or at least misguided. Send him the graph and the link too, along with his fellow travellers below.
    contact@andrewweavermla.ca
    Lizzie and Christy need reminders too, as well as Justy.
    elizabeth.may.c1a@parl.gc.ca Lizard May
    premier@gov.bc.ca Christy Clark
    justin.trudeau@parl.gc.ca Justy Turdeau
    I know, I know, their sycophants filter the emails, but, they still need to know the carbon tax is fraudulent, and hurts the poor the most, it inflates prices on ALL products. Marc Jaccard is the definition of an slacktivist elitist. Very eductaed, horribly misguided, arrogant as all hell. He is the chief driver of the carbon tax ovement in Canada, and solely responsible for conning Gordo into this silliness.

  16. The odds that climate projections are wrong grow exponentially with the amount of time that the climate significantly deviates from these projections. Thus a 10-year deviation doesn’t mean much, but a 20-year deviation would be difficult to dismiss. Looking at the above chart, one might argue we’re already there.

  18. What it boils down to is that nothing we do will make any difference either way. Gaia will do what Gaia has always done.

  19. John
    You obviously don’t know as much about Kate as you think you know about climate science.

  20. It’s clear that Icelanders have a more firm grasp of reality than those in Canada’s –gag– “morally and intellectually superior” community.

  22. Starting in the 8th century the Norse Invaders instilled terror into peoples from Britain to Byzantium. There was a prayer of deliverance said in Britain.
    “Our supreme and holy Grace, protecting us and ours, deliver us, God, from the savage race of Northmen which lays waste our realms”
    Today the Icelandic ancestors of those ‘aggressive folk’ are scared of fairies and elves.

  23. (And is believing in Elves is somehow crazier than believing their is an all powerful ghost in the sky who made the world in 6 days?)
    “And”
    “their”
    “is believing in Elves is”
    Duh!
    One thing’s for sure, this is the level of stupid required to worship AlGore.

  24. None of this matters to the watermelon/Gaiaists/warmists/statist rent seeking crowd. They’ve already ignored the sun and the oceans but will glom on to any insignificant “proof” of their claims, which are daily being falsified by reality, with cooler temperatures more likely going forward.
    One blogger to the article opined models with uncertainty are necessary, using the engineering design programs and simulators for combat aircraft as “life and death” examples. Believe me if their models showed the planes crashing, they wouldn’t move into production, unlike the warmist waste we’ve witnessed. Comparing the precision of aircraft design with climatology is the problem – it’s been elevated to hard science status which it’s nowhere near, by a compliant, ignorant media and compromised scientific community.
    It started with the guilt trip on pollution, went on to climate change, then to the colossal waste of time and treasure we see now (frozen wind turbines?). I “predict” the warmists will be scurrying for shelter for soon as we witness a general global cooling trend, not catastrophic or anything, but like the 70s for instance. I know I’m right because my “modelling” has eliminated any variable that can show I’m wrong. Seriously, though – human activity contributes at best, negligibly (and that’s being charitable) to climate change, either way. That’s becoming clearer every day.

  25. Here in BC we have a tax on pixie dust called carbon tax, so I don’t feel I can be too hard on Iceland.

  27. Oh no’s!!!! In a rush to not waste too much time speaking with you guys, I used “their” instead of there!!!!” My points must “theirfore” be invalid! “Their” really is a sky ghost who grants wishes to those who pray! And he really was born to a virgin on Christmas day!!!!
    Just a reminder AGAIN… scientific consensus is that climate change is happening. And the fact that you believe it’s not probably has something to do with conservative groups spending loads to trick you into thinking that it’s the scientists who are lying.
    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/dec/20/conservative-groups-1bn-against-climate-change

  31. There is something ominous about the graph though. Iti is still no matter how slowly moving from low left to high right. even the actual temp graph is still slowly creeping to the upper right. . there that’s my devils advocate for 2013.
    I still no matter what anyone tells me do not believe that my exhaled air is casueing the tempratureo f this earth to rise. #sorrynotsorry
    Twitter yes I know.

  32. Being resident some 1000 plus miles north of you, I agree, that downward sign is bad tidings.
    I want my global warming, I was promised it on the highest political authority.
    If we did not stop producing the magic gas, then warmth would come to Canada.
    Well I burnt everything I could, except CAGW witches, and the warming went away.
    Obviously, it was my failure to sacrifice the CAGW witches.
    As happened with the last mini-ice age, the burning of witches was tried, it only took some 300 years for the weather to respond.
    Logical conclusion ?? We did not burn enough witches.
    Sarcasm aside, we are all out of money, masses of public treasure has been burnt upon the alter all for no change in the weather cycles.
    But on the bright side we have an excess of self identified CAGW believers, so burn these witches and in 300 years or less the warming will return..
    I’m up for this fine social science experiment.

  34. Faith and Begorrah, you not believing in the little people, now.
    Oh, the shame of it, but you accept gifts of their handiwork, placed under your Christmas tree, don’t you?
    ====
    If the idlers and greens wish to sail(the only low C02 emission method) to Iceland for a protest to save the elves, well I’ll chip in, a loonie for a loonie so to speak. 🙂

  35. Much like Canada’s incestuous ruling class in waiting, pretty much everybody in Iceland is related, that might explain the elves.

  38. Isn’t U Vic on the other side of the San Andreas fault? Maybe, Ms. McMillan, your prayer to St.
    Andrew will also be effective with LaLaLand North. He certainly is doing a number on California!

  39. The funders of this “research” should demand their money back. When a set of random numbers constrained to the temperature limits of the model perform a better job of predicting future climate than the model, one knows that the modelling software is a POS. As one of the Canadian taxpayers who had a role in paying for this defective model, I will be asking for a refund on my taxes which I am outraged were wasted on such junk “science”.
    In any scientific discipline, the failure of a model of a process to perform as well as randomly generated values of process values would be considered sufficient to reject the model. However, we’re not dealing with a scientific process, we’re dealing with a religion and, religions have a belief system wherein the fundamental postulates of the religion are assumed to be absolutely true and no dissent is brooked.
    When one looks at the curious Icelandic belief in elves, one has a similar situation. The curious factum that no-one has ever seen an elf is dismissed by claiming the unique ability of elves to stay out of sight of humans and the “evidence” is the mysterious disappearance of objects which later reappear. I have a far more parsimonious explanation of such object disappearances and that is the spontaneous execution of primitive wetware subroutines while ones consciousness is otherwise engaged. For example, my finding of a pair of scissors I had lost in the refrigarator is not something I would attribute to elves, but rather my consciousness being involved in dealing with a clinical problem while the pick_up, carry, open_door and put_object_down fundamental wetware routines were executed sequentially by lower brain centers while my conscious mind was attempting to figure out the diagnosis of a patient currently in hospital. Given that I have video surveillance evidence of what appears to be me picking up and putting down “lost” objects in unusual places would be sufficient to disprove “the elves did it” explanation unless one utilized the elves doctoring the video feed explanation which would be the explanation of those who inhabit a reality tunnel in which elves are presumed to exist.
    In BC, we don’t have elves but we do have fairies (or ferries depending on how one spells it). Just reminds me of a snippet of court testimony from an unknown case where the lawyer asked the witness “do you believe in f{e|ai}r|{r}es?” When the witness answered yes, the next question was “when did you last see a f{e|ai}{r|rr}y?” to which the witness answered “When I came here from Victoria”. Obviously the current moonbats who inhabit the BC legislature are firm believers in fairies rather than the type which lose large amounts of money for the BC taxpayer every year.

  41. On the other hand, one could go with:
    Defence attorney to prosecution witness: “Were you kicked in the fracus?”
    Prosecution witness to defence attorney: “Just below it, actually.”
    I, too, demand a refund.

  42. Here’s the thing that is rarely mentioned in these:
    Their data goes back 40 odd years, but the model was actually created in the late 90’s. So all of the correlations prior to then are NOT PREDICTIONS from the model, but rather the ‘researchers’ creating a model that comported with known facts.
    The actual predictions begin where the model diverts so drastically from reality.

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