Though a language warning is definitely necessary, this rant from Adam Carolla is most insightful.
23 Replies to “Adam Carolla Discusses Modern Aviation”
Adam Carolla does lose a degree of credibilty with the F-bombs but he does have a point.
Profiling works. El Al has not had any problems for a generation. The boarding process is pleasant….courteous even.
The greatest injustice was this vilification of “discrimination”…..somehow electing to make a choice, a preference has become a sin.
The result has been policies and people have been adopted/hired/elected who should/would have been otherwise rejected.
The idea of giving people who have travelled a lot without incidence a ‘barcode’ or some other thing on their ticket/passport/ID etc. that will let them skip scrutiny instead of actually profiling for the likely terrorist is a mistake.
They should be actively profiling for the terrorists.
I don’t have any patience with people who can’t talk without the ‘F-word’. It’s totally unnecessary and highly offensive, no mater what else he says. Count me out.
Air travel is too cheap, and too common. Take a look at that list of illegal aliens that Sun News posted, and ask yourself, how did they get here? Airlines refuse to accept profiling, because 2/3 of their paying passengers are muslim/criminal/fake refugee/ne’er-do-wells. You might not believe this if you travel in Canada, but take an international flight, and get back to me.
Went on a holiday over Christmas, my parents came with. My mother has some metal in her knees, and you wouldn’t believe the hassle she got. She’s nearly 80, white, polite, reputable person in her community. Airline security today is a complete and utter joke.
The restrictions on fluids is also a joke. You are allowed x ml of fluid. My wife had a bottle of contact lens fluid that was nearly empty, and it had far less than x ml. But the Nazi at security said she could not take it on the plane because the *bottle size* was bigger than x ml. How utterly stupid is that? I asked to see a supervisor, but that was a waste of time. He was as dumb as everyone else. So perfectly good lens fluid got thrown away even though my wife had far less than the permitted amount. How asinine is that!
It is not so much profiling that we need, but rather our security policies should treat decent human beings like decent human beings. Right now the policies assume we are cattle, and the policies themselves are stupid, plain and simple.
There is no greater example of how the West has lost its cajones than airline security. We have given ourselves up to the nanny state.
“Airlines refuse to accept profiling, because 2/3 of their paying passengers are muslim/criminal/fake refugee/ne’er-do-wells. You might not believe this if you travel in Canada, but take an international flight, and get back to me.”
Ha! How very true. Just take a British Airways flight out of London to see what he means.
He criticizes people for being stupid (with a valid point) yet he only has one (expletive deleted) adjective in his vocabulary.
The reasoning i sthat you could have one big bottle that’s under x ml in content and several smaller ones to top it off.
Thus have one > x ml bottle of doom fluid ready to go.
Fine.
However, since they do not ban having an empty fluid container ( say a 1 litre drink thing) or buying it in the terminal, I fail to see the point. Fine I’ll have a quart bag of 15ml containers that are full and an empty quart container, happy now? My friends can hav theirs too.
Besides If I were a terrorist, I’d get a job a for catering co. and load a food pallet of something that goes bang! on an altitude/time switch and walk away.
While it’s easy to understand his frustration,I couldn’t listen to his whole monologue without getting distracted by the F-bombs.
I agree that it is a very interesting contrast between the brain power it takes to make modern air-travel happen and the complete lack of brain power in the security theater done by the TSA.
All this money and wasted time all in the name of making people FEEL safer. No to BE safer, just FEEL safer.
I think you are on to something Fred,but not an explosives scenario,the food supply scenario.I can’t remember the year but British Airway’s catering service supplied tainted meals on so many flights that over 700 people became ill with some deaths.Imagine the numbers if it was willfull.
I don’t mind the “F” bombs but I worked construction (steeplejack) through college and university. I “lose it” sometimes like that, and worse. My wife and my Dad both have to say something when I’m hot sometimes and I feel bad about it.
Swearing has it’s place and I’m alright with it in most places like here. No offense is meant, it’s only for emphasis , it’s just how people talk.
Adam’s take on TSA theatre is almost Ann Coulter’s take just days after it was imposed.
The airport security system isn’t about security any more than the criminal justice system is about justice. It’s well orchestrated theater to preserve the status quo so people can continue to make money with an acceptable level of collateral damage.
The Israeli system of multilevel airport security does work, and a few airports like Logan in Boston have adopted it.
While a few choice expletives can sometimes help make a point, when they’re overused it’s just irritating.
I’ve always noticed that people who have nothing to say always say it while complaining about the smarter person’s swearing…
He nails it. I know exactly how he feels, there’s nothing more aggravating being a frequent flyer and treated with disrespect in your own country while some Arab schmuck looking nervous and fidgety in line gets a pass. Usually Canadian airports have “ethnic” peoples with bad accents doing the pat-downs, and I am assured as a white male to be singled out at least 60% of the time, and have without any doubt watched them smirk and take pride in their presumed power and the inconvenience caused with me.
The only other country I have felt this overt discrimination in an airport outside of Canada was Japan on a couple occasions. Of course there is discrimination on different levels towards white males in most other countries when they don’t feel that you have anything of value to immediately offer them.
Canada does offer a fast track line for business class and Aeroplan gold card members, but in reality it’s not much of a time saver inline, and it does not exclude you from further scrutiny as a white person. Regardless visible “minorities” still get the ready smiles and gushing, nauseous, and very fake Canadian diplomacy not afforded to the rest of us white, highly taxed, airline supporting frequent flyer citizens.
When minimum wage immigrants are hired for security, you get what you pay for, and the sort of discrimination noted here will be commonplace. Of course people are not willing to pay the airfares that would support effective security. People who want cheap lifestyles get what they deserve. On a more limited focus, American airports have been turning to the Israeli government and Israeli-run firms to help upgrade security in the post-9/11 world. Israeli officials toured Los Angeles Airport in November 2008 to re-evaluate the airport after making security upgrade recommendations in 2006, and Ron’s company, New Age Security Solutions, based in Washington, D.C., consults on aviation security at Boston’s Logan International Airport.[22][29] Calling Ben Gurion “the world’s safest airport,” Antonio Villaraigosa, mayor of Los Angeles, has implemented the Israeli review in order to bring state-of-the-art technology and other tactical measures to help secure LAX, considered to be the state’s primary terrorist target and singled out by the Al Qaeda network.[30] Other U.S. airports to incorporate Israeli tactics and systems include Port of Oakland and the San Diego County Regional Airport Authority.
I stopped flying and let my passport expire.
People gave their lives defending the freedoms I have today. All I had to do was adjust my lifestyle to eliminate air travel in protest of naked body scanners and invasive pat downs.
I was fortunate that I didn’t have to quit my job. The company switched to net meetings to save costs before my refusal to fly became a “do it or else” issue.
I know other people have selected other freedoms to stand on and say “Not one more inch”. This became mine.
Agreed. I stopped flying after 9-11 except for flights within my region on small airlines. Security is a sham at major airports and I refuse to support it. A lot of air travel is pretentious and totally unnecessary.
Dan S >
Agreed as well.
I stopped flying to the US nearly two years ago in protest. No transits, no vacations, and no business.
This year I’m shutting down all my international travel. I’ve been an Air Canada Super Elite member for 10 years running, a gold member longer, this 2012 it all stops. (Unless I decide to burn up some airmiles for a trip or two before they expire – 7 year expiration).
Does anyone really think it possible to commandeer an airliner even in the absence of preflight searches. With a locked cabin door and an armed pilot I seriously doubt it. This was possible pre 9-11 because of a commonly held belief that we must cower in compliance as the authorities deal with our fate and the bad guys. Freed from the constraints of this belief, it is inevitable that we will accept the responsibility to protect ourselves aka:flight 93
LOVE me some Adam Carolla.
Yes, the current security screening systems are very inefficient and probably ineffective. (The most efficient I have seen is in Dubai, the worst in North America.) So, some sort of profiling, triage approach, or whatever, would certainly improve the situation.
But what’s with the “I have stopped flying” bs? By doing that you essentially let the dark side win.
I was on a flight in the morning of 9/11 (not so far from NYC, ended up emergency landing at Little Rock). Two weeks later I was up in the air again, because I’ll be damned if I am going to let those bastards win.
Besides, traveling, living, and working in different places & countries is extremely rewarding and enlightening. Actually meeting and interacting with different peoples & cultures (e.g. arabs & muslims) helps one understand that not everything is as simple as black & white. I will never give that up.
Johan i Kanada >
“Besides, traveling, living, and working in different places & countries is extremely rewarding and enlightening”
Interesting at least for the first few years.
I used to like Arabs, Muslims, Indian’s, and Africans until I lived and worked with them for over 25 years.
Your right about the enlightenment, just not the way the “Progressive” crowd pretends, it’s truly only rewarding in financial gains and knowing what not to bring into Canada.
Adam Carolla does lose a degree of credibilty with the F-bombs but he does have a point.
Profiling works. El Al has not had any problems for a generation. The boarding process is pleasant….courteous even.
The greatest injustice was this vilification of “discrimination”…..somehow electing to make a choice, a preference has become a sin.
The result has been policies and people have been adopted/hired/elected who should/would have been otherwise rejected.
The idea of giving people who have travelled a lot without incidence a ‘barcode’ or some other thing on their ticket/passport/ID etc. that will let them skip scrutiny instead of actually profiling for the likely terrorist is a mistake.
They should be actively profiling for the terrorists.
I don’t have any patience with people who can’t talk without the ‘F-word’. It’s totally unnecessary and highly offensive, no mater what else he says. Count me out.
Air travel is too cheap, and too common. Take a look at that list of illegal aliens that Sun News posted, and ask yourself, how did they get here? Airlines refuse to accept profiling, because 2/3 of their paying passengers are muslim/criminal/fake refugee/ne’er-do-wells. You might not believe this if you travel in Canada, but take an international flight, and get back to me.
Went on a holiday over Christmas, my parents came with. My mother has some metal in her knees, and you wouldn’t believe the hassle she got. She’s nearly 80, white, polite, reputable person in her community. Airline security today is a complete and utter joke.
The restrictions on fluids is also a joke. You are allowed x ml of fluid. My wife had a bottle of contact lens fluid that was nearly empty, and it had far less than x ml. But the Nazi at security said she could not take it on the plane because the *bottle size* was bigger than x ml. How utterly stupid is that? I asked to see a supervisor, but that was a waste of time. He was as dumb as everyone else. So perfectly good lens fluid got thrown away even though my wife had far less than the permitted amount. How asinine is that!
It is not so much profiling that we need, but rather our security policies should treat decent human beings like decent human beings. Right now the policies assume we are cattle, and the policies themselves are stupid, plain and simple.
There is no greater example of how the West has lost its cajones than airline security. We have given ourselves up to the nanny state.
“Airlines refuse to accept profiling, because 2/3 of their paying passengers are muslim/criminal/fake refugee/ne’er-do-wells. You might not believe this if you travel in Canada, but take an international flight, and get back to me.”
Ha! How very true. Just take a British Airways flight out of London to see what he means.
He criticizes people for being stupid (with a valid point) yet he only has one (expletive deleted) adjective in his vocabulary.
The reasoning i sthat you could have one big bottle that’s under x ml in content and several smaller ones to top it off.
Thus have one > x ml bottle of doom fluid ready to go.
Fine.
However, since they do not ban having an empty fluid container ( say a 1 litre drink thing) or buying it in the terminal, I fail to see the point. Fine I’ll have a quart bag of 15ml containers that are full and an empty quart container, happy now? My friends can hav theirs too.
Besides If I were a terrorist, I’d get a job a for catering co. and load a food pallet of something that goes bang! on an altitude/time switch and walk away.
While it’s easy to understand his frustration,I couldn’t listen to his whole monologue without getting distracted by the F-bombs.
I agree that it is a very interesting contrast between the brain power it takes to make modern air-travel happen and the complete lack of brain power in the security theater done by the TSA.
All this money and wasted time all in the name of making people FEEL safer. No to BE safer, just FEEL safer.
I think you are on to something Fred,but not an explosives scenario,the food supply scenario.I can’t remember the year but British Airway’s catering service supplied tainted meals on so many flights that over 700 people became ill with some deaths.Imagine the numbers if it was willfull.
I don’t mind the “F” bombs but I worked construction (steeplejack) through college and university. I “lose it” sometimes like that, and worse. My wife and my Dad both have to say something when I’m hot sometimes and I feel bad about it.
Swearing has it’s place and I’m alright with it in most places like here. No offense is meant, it’s only for emphasis , it’s just how people talk.
Adam’s take on TSA theatre is almost Ann Coulter’s take just days after it was imposed.
The airport security system isn’t about security any more than the criminal justice system is about justice. It’s well orchestrated theater to preserve the status quo so people can continue to make money with an acceptable level of collateral damage.
The Israeli system of multilevel airport security does work, and a few airports like Logan in Boston have adopted it.
While a few choice expletives can sometimes help make a point, when they’re overused it’s just irritating.
I’ve always noticed that people who have nothing to say always say it while complaining about the smarter person’s swearing…
He nails it. I know exactly how he feels, there’s nothing more aggravating being a frequent flyer and treated with disrespect in your own country while some Arab schmuck looking nervous and fidgety in line gets a pass. Usually Canadian airports have “ethnic” peoples with bad accents doing the pat-downs, and I am assured as a white male to be singled out at least 60% of the time, and have without any doubt watched them smirk and take pride in their presumed power and the inconvenience caused with me.
The only other country I have felt this overt discrimination in an airport outside of Canada was Japan on a couple occasions. Of course there is discrimination on different levels towards white males in most other countries when they don’t feel that you have anything of value to immediately offer them.
Canada does offer a fast track line for business class and Aeroplan gold card members, but in reality it’s not much of a time saver inline, and it does not exclude you from further scrutiny as a white person. Regardless visible “minorities” still get the ready smiles and gushing, nauseous, and very fake Canadian diplomacy not afforded to the rest of us white, highly taxed, airline supporting frequent flyer citizens.
When minimum wage immigrants are hired for security, you get what you pay for, and the sort of discrimination noted here will be commonplace. Of course people are not willing to pay the airfares that would support effective security. People who want cheap lifestyles get what they deserve.
On a more limited focus, American airports have been turning to the Israeli government and Israeli-run firms to help upgrade security in the post-9/11 world. Israeli officials toured Los Angeles Airport in November 2008 to re-evaluate the airport after making security upgrade recommendations in 2006, and Ron’s company, New Age Security Solutions, based in Washington, D.C., consults on aviation security at Boston’s Logan International Airport.[22][29] Calling Ben Gurion “the world’s safest airport,” Antonio Villaraigosa, mayor of Los Angeles, has implemented the Israeli review in order to bring state-of-the-art technology and other tactical measures to help secure LAX, considered to be the state’s primary terrorist target and singled out by the Al Qaeda network.[30]
Other U.S. airports to incorporate Israeli tactics and systems include Port of Oakland and the San Diego County Regional Airport Authority.
I stopped flying and let my passport expire.
People gave their lives defending the freedoms I have today. All I had to do was adjust my lifestyle to eliminate air travel in protest of naked body scanners and invasive pat downs.
I was fortunate that I didn’t have to quit my job. The company switched to net meetings to save costs before my refusal to fly became a “do it or else” issue.
I know other people have selected other freedoms to stand on and say “Not one more inch”. This became mine.
Agreed. I stopped flying after 9-11 except for flights within my region on small airlines. Security is a sham at major airports and I refuse to support it. A lot of air travel is pretentious and totally unnecessary.
Dan S >
Agreed as well.
I stopped flying to the US nearly two years ago in protest. No transits, no vacations, and no business.
This year I’m shutting down all my international travel. I’ve been an Air Canada Super Elite member for 10 years running, a gold member longer, this 2012 it all stops. (Unless I decide to burn up some airmiles for a trip or two before they expire – 7 year expiration).
Does anyone really think it possible to commandeer an airliner even in the absence of preflight searches. With a locked cabin door and an armed pilot I seriously doubt it. This was possible pre 9-11 because of a commonly held belief that we must cower in compliance as the authorities deal with our fate and the bad guys. Freed from the constraints of this belief, it is inevitable that we will accept the responsibility to protect ourselves aka:flight 93
LOVE me some Adam Carolla.
Yes, the current security screening systems are very inefficient and probably ineffective. (The most efficient I have seen is in Dubai, the worst in North America.) So, some sort of profiling, triage approach, or whatever, would certainly improve the situation.
But what’s with the “I have stopped flying” bs? By doing that you essentially let the dark side win.
I was on a flight in the morning of 9/11 (not so far from NYC, ended up emergency landing at Little Rock). Two weeks later I was up in the air again, because I’ll be damned if I am going to let those bastards win.
Besides, traveling, living, and working in different places & countries is extremely rewarding and enlightening. Actually meeting and interacting with different peoples & cultures (e.g. arabs & muslims) helps one understand that not everything is as simple as black & white. I will never give that up.
Johan i Kanada >
“Besides, traveling, living, and working in different places & countries is extremely rewarding and enlightening”
Interesting at least for the first few years.
I used to like Arabs, Muslims, Indian’s, and Africans until I lived and worked with them for over 25 years.
Your right about the enlightenment, just not the way the “Progressive” crowd pretends, it’s truly only rewarding in financial gains and knowing what not to bring into Canada.