60 Replies to ““In a John le Carré world…””

  4. HEHEHEHE. I wonder if anyone, outside of the comments sections on CBC’s website stories about Wikileaks, actually thinks this document dump is working the way sweet Julian anticipated? I never visit leftie websites/blogs, so I don’t know whether they are seeing this for what it is, or if they’re still reveling in the myth that this will turn America’s friends cold. As far as I’m concerned, it’s working out just fine, except for The One’s hesitation in issuing a warrant for his rest. They’re looking into whether he has broken any law????!!!!!????

  5. “Never let a crisis go to waste”
    Rahm Emmanuell
    Because Assange, for now, is a useful idiot.
    The internet gave the U.S lighting fast rise and influence of the TEA party movement. It caught the ultra corrupt Washington Dem/Rep establishment by surprise.
    The “establishment” have a major hurdle to counter now. The unfiltered, totally free speech internet.
    ………………………………………….
    NOTE TO READER:
    This is my opinion only. I could be totally wrong.
    Maybe this time my “watered down” version of my opinion won’t be “retained for moderation”

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  7. Dennis is good for a laugh. Julian doesn’t play for our team, so he is fair game. Don’t want to make him a new-age martyr though, so he’ll have to be caught and humiliated. Now ask yourself, are the people that he is exposing really that innocent, as Dennis Miller says? Or is it just that they play for our team?

  8. Not dead yet?
    Let’s see what happens if he releases a ton of ChiComm diplomatic messages.
    Oh, that’s right.
    He’s not stupid.
    Just arrogant.

  9. I wonder if King Abdullah might be persuaded to issue an international arrest warrant. I’m sure justice in Saudi Arabia is preferable to justice in America. Let’s cut a deal for this poor boy trapped in an adult’s body.

  10. As bad and wrong as these leaks are and they are epically so, there is much good that has come from them in what they DON’T reveal.
    The Wikileaks crowd and those who stole the cables as well as those in the left-wing media – the NYT, CNBC, and the far-left wingnut webspace – KOS, huffpo are all hellbent on bringing shame and scandal down upon the US government and its allies. Yet with this massive treasure trove in their hands they have found absolutely nothing in the way of evidence that the US and its allies went into Iraq and Afstan to pillage oil and rare earth metals or to secure a pipeline route or to do the bidding of haliburton or any number of conspiracy chomsky/Klein plots.
    It is impossible to disprove a negative, but these leaks and what they don’t contain come as close as possible to doing so under the circumstances.
    Ps- Kathy I’m hoping to call-in to DM’s show later this week to espouse the above, so say tuned.

  11. Love le carre’s early George smiley books (and the two BBC mini-series are excellent as well). The later anti-west stuff not so much.

  12. Thanks Kate for taking the time to explain why my original post was intercepted…I’ll know next time that these key words are ‘flags’…
    For those interested, the words Kate points out were my opinion of what the internet might still allow if my machiavellian mind is on the right track…Entertainment that keeps the serfs from questioning the establishment will be allowed to continue…Even sites that corrupts the soul or creates financial misery (See the “flagged” words) but opinion sites that promote thought and critical thinking especially when questioning ‘authority’; not so much.
    The internet was first allowed because they saw the enormous commercial transaction potential. Now, it is it’s true pure freedom of speech and more so the power of it’s reach that’s a real problem for them. The MSM is controlled and has been for generations, the internet, not.
    Just so I’m clear and although I consider myself socially Libertarian and fiscally Conservative, I do not support Assange’s action.
    Having free speech is not a license to act irresponsibly. This is no zit face hacker in mommy’s basement, he knows without a doubt, the potential ramifications of what he’s doing. Assange should be hunted down and prosecuted.

  14. I find it mildly amusing that the left thinks that this is good for democracy, keeps everyone honest don’tcha know. We must know what our governments are up to.
    Yet when the climate change emails were leaked, the left was collectively outraged. People should go to jail over this they demanded.

  15. “I wonder if King Abdullah might be persuaded to issue an international arrest warrant.”
    On what basis?

  16. Killing him would turn him into a martyr. Driving him over the edge would be preferable. Apparently he moves often. He is paranoid but he knows how to play the media.
    This stuff was not at the highest security level and one figure I saw gave a ‘viewing’ list of a million people had access. There isn’t going to be a smoking gun to hang the US with.
    If anything the security will improve.

  17. I hate the lefties but what has been done by this guy is GREAT.
    NO MORE LIES!!!!
    If the Americans are smart they will have a huge wave of either resignations or firings.

  18. “Yet when the climate change emails were leaked, the left was collectively outraged”
    Somewhat annoying but the whole climategate conspiracy stuff has been thoroughly debunked ad naseum. Outside of the Alex Jones bizarroverse and creationists they don’t get much traction.
    I don’t recall repeated calls for assasination and torture over the matter. If that’s your thing you’re reading the right blog.

  19. Martyr, schmartyr. The little dweeb disappears. Who knows what happened to him? Maybe he’s hiding…
    As for the “NO MORE LIES” demographic, I’m sure you’re real popular at family gatherings, what with blurting out everybody’s peccadilloes and all…

  20. Ezra Levant also wonders why; his article today in the T.O. Sun:
    http://m.torontosun.com/16364691.1?fullscreen#news
    Personally, I’d rather send a rapist to prison than create a leftist martyr, but Manning should have the full weight of the wartime provisions of the UCMJ fall on him. Given the weight of effort that could‘ve been brought against Assangel to prevent this, I do wonder what Dear Leader’s administration really thinks.
    I like Delingpole’s breakdown of the NYT then and now. Hypocrisy writ large.

  21. One wonders if the powers that be in the highest security offices in Washington aren’t happy with the content of at least the most publicised leaks (as suggested by the article). It demonstrates the totally unsurprising deceit and treachery at the highest levels from all sides and the clumsy attempts by the Obamugabe regime at obfuscation.
    If those powers wanted Assange eliminated, I’m sure they could introduce some information to the web as coming from Assange that would entice a certain “leader” into delivering a radioactive cocktail for slow release poisoning or similar gift from his old tool kit.
    If only Assange were close to the Clinton’s, he could be added to the list of coincidental suicides or suspicious deaths and no one in the MSM would question it.

  22. D’oh-sange might not be around much longer. I see some of his ‘information’ is not kind to Shrillery and her domestic spying for political ends. Some are even calling for her resignation as SoS. People who do damage to Shrillery have a habit of showing up dead.

  23. “I guess you missed the message written in blue lettering, above every comment box? ;-)”
    Kate
    *Blush* Yeah, I did. I guess.
    I’ve been haunting SDA for years too…See how much I trust this good woman?…I don’t even read the fine print of her blog!
    Now, don’t come back and try to sell me Saskatchewan ocean beach property, Kate…You’ll probably ask too much for it.
    😉 x 2

  24. Leftist hypocriscy. Remember all the fuss and two movies (one coming out now) about the outing of a CIA agent (who was not on active service) Valerie Plume Wilson in 2003.
    But now all these leaks and outings are good (because they hurt the war effort in Afghanistan and Iraq and the U.S. government and its allies).

  25. “Somewhat annoying but the whole climategate conspiracy stuff has been thoroughly debunked ad naseum. Outside of the Alex Jones bizarroverse and creationists they don’t get much traction.”
    Jose
    Links of those “thoroughly debunked ad naseum” please.
    Is your enlightened comment the reason why, Copenhagen was such a success? Was it the reason why the IPCC has since come out several times saying they have exagerated? Is it why the Chicago Carbon Exchange shutdown resently? Is it the reason why the Canadian senate silently (Hardly a peep from the MSM) caboched the NDP’s bill on Co2 emissions that was no doubt a Conservative/Liberal coalition move to kill this bill.
    Jose, you now have 2 federal choices left to choose: The NDP or the Greens. If ever, in a very bizarro world indeed, should one of these two win, they will do nothing either (Except talk and promise like the Conservatives have done and the Liberals before them when they signed Kyoto) because they also know it is total crap. These parties are still pushing it because a small fringe still believe in it. They will need those few votes to survive because they get $’s/vote.
    Wake up.

  26. 1. Julian Assange is just a front man
    2. Wikileaks have connection to (name your favorite country)
    3. Information by its nature leaks
    4. Internet for good or for bad is about transparency, deal with it.
    5. States spy on each other and fight with each other, it is a total anarchy; you may die for one of them and be called a hero;

  27. Louise @10:27 – King Abdullah? Meh, I’m just hoping something Assange released really p*sses off Putin. That’d do the trick.
    (BTW if I had to guess, I’d imagine he’s not so much a “…poor boy trapped in an adult’s body…” as he is, um, the reverse…)
    p.s. BTW is it pronounced “As-anj”, or “Ass-an-gee”, or some other way? Inquiring minds…

  28. Black Mamba, re Putin, you are right, that would do it. Rumor has it may be Putin behind the latest car bombings in Iran that killed some professors.

  29. Consider also that Climategate was over violating the presumption that science isn’t secret, and that doing science requires verification through sharing of data. Affairs of state presume secrecy, the violation of which can get people killed, but usually not the editor of the NYT–nor, might I add, has any climate scientist involved in Climategate died. One cannot say the same for the little people doing the fighting and dying so the Julian Assange’s can peddle their wares with a good conscience.
    Cheers
    Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group “True North”

  30. None of the leaks were Top Secret, only a few were Secret, most were political assessments, and most of them have been obvious or were circulating as rumours for some time.
    The only serious issue pressing for a decision is Iran acquiring Korean missiles capable of striking into the heart of Europe e.i. France and Germany. These would be the deliverance system for their soon to be developed nuclear weapons.
    This isn’t a new question either but whether President Obama will allow a dictatorship which funds terrorists world wide to acquire nuclear weapons. Thus changing the balance of power and increasing instability in the Middle East and for the Jihadis world wide.
    I think someone wanted this question dealt with sooner rather than later. The rest is just packing bubbles.

  31. “The internet was first allowed because they saw the enormous commercial transaction potential.”
    Nonsense. It was first “allowed” because DARPA was given the task of creating a military communications network capable of automatically routing around damaged section, in case the US ever suffered catastrophic infrastructure damage. Civilians use was first “allowed” because research universities partnered with DARPA in the development of the network. It gained momentum because it turned out to be an invaluable tool for communication between academics, and any university worth a damn wanted to have access to it. For the average Joe, the internet first became available as a research and messaging tool thanks to companies like CompuServe and America Online, which tapped into the pre-existing material generated by the various academic institutions on the net.
    The commercialization of the internet was an afterthought. The biggest single obstacle to internet commerce has been the lack of secure communications protocols, and the lack of any simple, universal money-exchange mechanisms. HTTPS was invented in part to deal with the former, but not until 1994. Paypal came along to deal with the latter problem, but not until even later. If the entire point of the internet had been commerce, these issues would have been dealt with from the get-go. Instead, it took 20+ years.
    “Now, it is it’s true pure freedom of speech and more so the power of it’s reach that’s a real problem for them.”
    Yeah, “they” are being stymed in “their” eeeevil plans for global domination. The New World Order will never stand for this!

  33. “Catastrophic infrastructure damage” is a nice way of putting it.
    It was (and IS) designed to survive a nuclear exchange, where many communication nodes are just gone.

  34. So apparently Assange has been offered refuge by President Correa of Ecuador (the third member Hugo Chavez’s “Bolivarian Revolution” — a Marxist triangle of evil including Venezuela, Bolivia and Ecuador).
    Coincidence? Or was Assange working with these Cuban and Iranian proxies all along, and his climate hoax leaks was just a front?

  36. As I said before this latest release which has made the Democrats in power look like they’ve been lieing to Americans and to the world, there are people who have analysed Assange’s behaviour/information and it looks like he was either fed this information by the CIA or is knowingly working for them.
    Why isn’t he dead?
    Hmmmm.
    Why did Nancy Pelosi say the CIA lied to her about their interrogation techniques?
    Why had the Obama administration been dumping on the CIA?
    You don’t disrespect the CIA.
    They know where the skeletons are buried.
    As I said before these latest releases, there was info in the first release that made googling Julian Assange + CIA worthwhile.
    The information makes the Obama regime look bad and it makes the Bush regime look bad too.
    In the first release there was evidence that the U.S. government knew that Pakistan was behind the 9/11 attack.
    An attack like that had to be state sponsored and nothing like it has happened since.
    (barring Barcelona and London which were far less organized and took less planning/coordination)

  38. Jefferson said:
    The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.
    *********************************************
    In an era when governments operate in a increasingly opaque fashion; where governments forget that they work for us, rather than the other way around; where governments lie to their citizens day in and day out; where the MSM cannot be relied on to do the heavy lifting as they are nothing but parrots towing a corporate line – Wikileaks should be welcomed with open arms.
    Go Assange! Next leak: Bank of America…

  39. alex
    how many years did the “CAR” exist before it became a commercial sucess???
    your post is mostly hot leftist air, aka, BS

  40. The latest on Ass-hat:
    http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/interpol-issues-arrest-warrant-for-julian-assange-20101201-18fw7.html?from=smh_sb
    Coles notes of the link:
    1)Interpol issues world wide arrest warrent for him based on the alleged sexual assault in Sweden.
    2)Ecuador has retracted the safe haven offer to him. (IMHO- someone put the screws to them to withdraw-diplomacy in action.)
    And if he is caught somewhere, I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets a Jack Ruby welcome.

  41. Waiting for the safe to drop on our heads.
    This Assange personage is not dead like the late I T guy in Iran. He must have some use. As I said the day before Obama likes the web concealed in the maze when planing something outrageous.
    JMO

  44. GYM:
    Using the word “leftist” is akin to sticking a giant, flashing, neon “MORON” sign on your forehead. If you’d like to be taken seriously by anyone other than knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers, try to make a rational point once in a while, avoid insults in general unless directly provoked, and avoid making asinine assumptions about the political beliefs of people you know nothing about.
    Just some friendly advice, take it or leave it.

  45. I have come to the conclusion that Julian Assange isn’t dead yet because he’s been paid to release all that stuff. A Private in the US Army had copy access to all that “super secret” info and passed it on to Julian baby? In a movie, maybe.
    And now that Private First Class Super Spy sent all this stuff offshore, the biggest military/industrial complex in the entire world, which incidentally has all the main internet backbone infrastructure on their soil, can’t stop a web site?
    And they can’t arrest one computer nerd? The same guys that dragged the tyrant Saddam Hussein out of a hole mere weeks after storming his fortress of a country?
    Sure. I believe that. Can I have my unicorn now?

  46. By the way, I find it hilarious that in all the super secret stuff, there’s nothing I haven’t seen at SDA or posted on my blog already. Zero new revelations in almost a gig of docs. Bwaha!

  48. I have a much different view of what’s going on here than most posters.
    The four biggest problems in the world right now are Iran (nukes, funding Hezbollah etc., possible blockade of Straits of Hormuz), North Korea (dying nutbar with messianic dreams and nukes), Afghanistan (budding narco-state with massively corrupt institutions), and Pakistan (massively corrupt state with nukes and territorial ambitions, offers refuge to Muslim terrorists).
    Here, in the safety of Kate’s bosom, we can blather all we want about nuking Iran/Pyongyang/Kabul etc. That can’t be done at the official level by anyone except the leaders of the aforementioned four states. It’s possible Achmenigoogoogajoorad actually believed that other Arab states supported Iran. It’s possible that Kim Deathly-Ill thought that China’s support was unconditional. It’s possible that Afghan’s Used Kargai thought the West actually believed his act, and they had no idea he was a corrupt, money grubbing opportunist. There’s no way Bambam, or Erkel, or Sarkostic could express those opinions, however much they believed them to be true.
    But, now, how the US/Germany/Britain/France really feel is out in the open, although in a comfortably officially deniable way. No matter what Achmenidoodad says in public this week, I have to believe in private, he’s got his advisors together, and they’re going “Sh*t! Our so-called allies hate our guts and want us neutered.” Kim I-map-Il has to be muttering “Godd*mn chinks! They’re not gonna help us!” The boys at ISI in Islamabad have to be asking each other “Who’s got the extra Charmin’?!”. They might have suspected this all along, but now it’s out in the open.
    I think it’s great. There’ll be less of a need for any of the Western countries to hide behind PC hypocrisy. Knowing what we really think might give the four maniacs pause before they decide to provoke and/or take us on.
    In negotiation, this type of move is called, strangely enough, “signalling”. It lets the other party know what your intentions are without you making a formal offer (or in this case, demand or ultimatum). I wouldn’t be surprised if, 30 years from now, it turns out Assange was working for Western intelligence all along.

  49. As I said earlier, murder is frowned upon. Don’t give me this crap about how he ‘endangered US security’ with his most recent leak. All he did was embarrass the US government (good), the state department in particular (best), and the House of Saud (best).
    You all love to talk about limiting government, but you’re full of it aren’t you? You have a fetish for government secrecy in certain areas, just like you have a fetish for police authority/brutality. Ask yourself, do you want your masters to be able to hide secrets from you with regards to asinine policy? Do you really think our governments are trustworthy for this? Are you an idiot?

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