… becasue nothing makes a green’s day like watching the little brown people live primintive lives.
Bluntly put, environmentalists are using African parents and children in anti-DDT experiments. Against all the evidence from decades of using only nets and drugs and maybe other insecticides, they want to keep ignoring DDT as a long-lasting spatial insect repellant. They want to keep us doing what has at best worked only partially, on the assumption that maybe it will work better next year – or that a 30% malaria reduction is good enough.
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But environmentalists constantly block coal, gas and hydro-electric power plants. They want us to live in experimental societies where people get whatever limited electrical power can be generated day to day with wind turbines or solar panels. They pressured the World Bank to reject loan applications for power plants in Ghana and South Africa, and support President Obama when he says Africans should focus on wind, solar and bio-fuel power, instead of fossil fuels.
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Abe: There is a line between racism and bashing socialism … you crossed the line.
Cjunk
Maybe they think that an “advanced” society that unilaterally and willingly decides to go back to a simpler living will be worthy of the controlling aliens’ blessing and get to go to the panacea in the stars.
You know, like in that Star Trek episode.
It sounds ,to me, like some people want the African people to die out by the millions.
. . and they knowingly support massive corruption at the IPCC/UN
Here’s how it goes:
1. HFC-23 is the godfather of greenhouse gases: it’s 11,700 times as powerful at warming as CO2 is.
2. The chemical makers are paid as much as $100,000 in carbon credits for every ton they destroy…
3. Suddenly making-and-then-destroying HFC-23 is very valuable business, so people rush to fill this “demand”.
4. HFC-23 is a byproduct of the process of making HCFC-22 (a refrigerant that’s made, as it happens, to satisfy UN treaty about reducing ozone.) Because HFC-23 is now far more valuable, the HCFC-22 becomes the byproduct, and it’s being overproduced).
5. Here’s the catch: HCFC-22 is itself a greenhouse gas… “the global warming impact of the HCFC-22 production… is five times higher than that of the HFC-23 itself, due to the high volume of HCFC-22 produced”. [Source link]
To put it in perspective: In 2009 European installations surrendered 46 million HFC-23 CERs, worth an estimated €550 million. These CERs constitute the majority of offsets used by European companies (59% in 2009). [Source] More »
http://joannenova.com.au/
There may be some eeeevile capitalist excuse for blocking loans to Ghana, such as they might not be good for it. Although, people are still buying American debt so that argument isn’t as strong as it once was.
However South Africa is a proper Western nation and has been for 100 years.
Still, no reason to be miffed. Greenies routinely block any/all power plants in Western countries too. That’s because they are enemies of the West, and would like to see the West destroyed.
Possibly if more of us complacent Westerners understood that the Greenies would be doing less blocking power plants and more blocking shots to the head from enraged electricity rate-payers.
When collectivists posing as environmentalists try to ban centralized sources of energy in the energy starved third world, what their real objectives are in the capitalist first world become much clearer.
If desperately poor countries, like Ghana and India, are going to raise their standards of living, the first thing they will need is lots, and lots of electric generating plants. The cheapest fuel is coal.
The Ghana case mentioned is a good example of why money and power must be kept out of the transnational institutions. The UN, World Bank, etc. are the playthings of the liberal ruling class whose attitude towards human beings is the same as Mao’s towards the Chinese; they are a blank sheet on which beautiful characters may be written. This is the same Mao who killed 23 million Chinese.
Mao’s view was at odds with Jefferson’s: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their JUST powers from the CONSENT of the governed.”
Glenn Beck extols Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and writings of other Founders. Do today’s liberals dislike him because of – or in spite of – his respect for the founding?
One of the problems I have heard of is the selling of the mosquito netting as fish nets. There a couple of things wrong with that but what swims through a moasquito net? Don’t worry about sickness if they starve.
I believe the darling of western academia, Mao is a lot closer to 70 million dead Chinamen. Second only to Nixon’s EPA in total sensless deaths. So far the banning of DDT has caused 103 million deaths of mostly African children, not to mention the survivors of malaria who get violently ill every couple of years. http://www.junkscience.com/malaria_clock.html
Sorry about that. One man’s humor is another man’s line.
Malaria deaths have been reduced to a third what they were when DDT use was at its peak. DDT doesn’t cure malaria, it only temporarily knocks down the mosquitoes that spread it. If you can’t cure the people while the mosquitoes are dizzy, when the mosquitoes come roaring back (as they must, using DDT broadly) the malaria comes roaring back, too.
DDT has never been banned in Africa, however. DDT is still readily available. You might consider that it stopped being uber-effective against mosquitoes in about 1965 — who can blame Africans for not using stuff that doesn’t kill the insects?
However, Environmental Defense has been advocating DDT use in Indoor Residual Spraying for about 40 years. It’s not environmentalists who oppose DDT use — it’s businessmen. Go figure.
Malaria fighters aren’t calling for more DDT. DDT is not a panacea, and it’s not pixie dust. Listen to the environmentalists — they are right, and they’ve reduced malaria deaths with their methods.
I’d like to see a reference on that. The World Bank is notoriously unfriendly toward environmentalists, but they also don’t like to approve projects that won’t pay. Dollars to doughnuts, if World Bank disapproved it, it wasn’t because environmentalists complained.
A different view:
http://www.whirledbank.org/environment/fuels.html
Ed Darrell
Just because you declare it don’t make it so…
I note no links or authorities cited to back your declaration.
It is an established given that malaria and typhus was nearly beaten until the “silent springers” succeeded in banning DDT.
On of their current goals is to remove ALL Hydro Electric Dams……”to let the rivers flow free” Their political pressure has interdicted nuke power plants for years….based upon ignorant fears of radiation. Wind power has killed many but we have yet to have death from nike power generation.
Your claims of effective alternatives is just so much baseless boilerplate….am I calling you a liar…yeah. BTW I am one of those sorry SOBs who has a chronic malaria infection….thanks a bunch….
Ed Darrell: DDT use in Africa is fought tooth and nail by environ-mental groups. Google “DDT use in Africa” and you get one long saga of battle. The Stockholm Convention bans use of DDT under almost all imaginable conditions, except for residual indoor spraying … which, if you read the endless news items, is fought hard by environ – mental groups.
Don’t you find it strange, that you ask for links to prove the author’s claims about DDT … yet provide none of your own.
For example, you could’ve at least tried the old standby … but then you’d find this:
Oops!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/summ02/Carson.html
The author has credentials,is a former admirer of Rachel Carson,but soon became NO fan of Rachel Carson. He debunks many of the claims made in “Silent Spring”, page by page,with references.
Me, I’m just lovin’ the bedbug stories out of NY and DC. Can Boston be far behind? New England used to be a hotbed (heh) of the critters.
A few other thoughts as well.
di-CHLOR-o-di-PHEE-nyl-tri-CHLOR-o-eh-THANE!
Regards,
Ric
How many threads about DDT do you need to make? You can make a hundred, it won’t change the facts.
DDT is an effective pesticide. Spraying large areas with a single pesticide is not an effective pest control method. Spraying large areas with pesticides alone is not an effective pest control method. I have no idea why any of you choose to argue so passionately about an old, outdated, pesticide that stays in the environment for long lengths of time and accumulates and stays in organisms for long lengths of time, which also tends to cause pests to quickly evolve immunity, other than just to call out ‘environmentalists’ from 3 decades ago.