Quite a few of the blogs and commentators in the media from the left
wing of the political perspective aren’t decrying Count Iggy and the
Liberal Party’s lack of coherent policy. Many of them are actually
calling it a strategic decision in order to eliminate negative
feedback from the Conservative advertising juggernaut. These pundits
all use the Green Shaft and the Dion experiment as proof that you
can’t tempt fate.
These Liberals are completely wrong.
The Green Shaft didn’t become the albatross around Dion’s neck
because of the Conservatives. The Green Shaft was just bad
policy and Canadians rejected it. Sure the “Tax on everything.”
slogan was catchy, but more importantly, it was true. Dion wasn’t
rejected because the CPC was convinced he wasn’t a leader, he was
rejected because he wasn’t the leader Canadians wanted.
Dear Liberals,
Policy is what I want to hear. Yeah, I may call it out,
investigate it, run the numbers, insult it and tear it down but the
fact remains that if it’s good policy one of two things will happen.
- The Conservatives will do a Microsoft and embrace and
extend. - Canadians will say, “Hey, good idea. Let’s give this set of
jokers a chance.”
Either way, it’s good for us. Us, being Canadians, as opposed to just
Liberal Canadians, or more specifically the LPC. I know that
previously you’ve run on the idea that Conservative values aren’t
Canadian values, but seeing as that too was rejected I’m hoping that
you’re thinking that just maybe Canadians are more important than the
LPC. Maybe when Canadians get the idea you care about them more than
what elite pure laine Quebec Liberal gets to be the Lieutenant that
decides Montreal’s Outremont they’ll give you and your policies a
chance.
Why don’t you see if you can get more than a “blue-ribbon panel” and
more of a “billion for unemployed” like the soft spot to your left,
eh?
Cheers,
lance
Lance? That’s a gay name, right?
Harry? That’s the name of a moron,right?
How can you spot a liberal? They only know how to name call and insult, and can’t put a logical thought or argument together to save their life.
Hear! Hear!
Good grief,Lance. Don’t go giving those of the LPC any concrete ideas!Oh wait. Nevermind.Ideas can’t travel in a vacuum anyways.
Count Iggula’s policy crypt is more empty than usual. The fly-by-night party expects Canadians to clamor for that?
Lance,
Shhhh….don’t tell them the truth, they might do something about it. Right now they are content to fight the last war, or at least their perceptions of the last war. And given their actions of late they really took the wrong lesson.
– Trying to prove they arent pushovers in Parliament
– Trying to turn the leadership thing on Harper, evidence to the contray
But one lesson they havent learned….while Green Shift might or might not have been bad policy it was deifintiely the wrong poilicy for the elctorate at the wrong time. So now they are pushing the interational angle and waving UN flags outside a Tim Horton’s? If they really think that will connect with Canadians broadly then they havent learned a thing.
I am convinced the Liberal party is talking to itself, thinking that means it is talking to Canadians. That might have been true 40 years ago, but times have changed. While gettign your own party on side is important, it also a dwindling base…probably for all parties (people are more apt to be non partisan).
Either their strategy really is success through reactivation of relapsed Liberals or it is a misplaced focus on issues that most Canadians don’t care about, like talking cricket in Toronto if the Leafs were in the Cup final. It doesnt mean cricket is unimportant, it just means nobody will listen…thats what happened to the Green Shift and they are going to do it again.
Look at Bourques developing story, apparently the knives are coming out for Iggy. His fall will be mighty ugly, they wont let an election happen if they think he is Dion 2.0
New Ekos Poll for the CBC
Tories making inroads in Toronto:Poll
cbc.ca Sept.24/09
Poll done exclusively for CBC & released Thursday…
Conservative 37% (Up from 35.1 last wk)
Liberal 29.9% (nc)
ndp 13.8% (down from 16.5)
grn 10.2% (nc)
bq 9.1% (nc)
Toronto
Conservatives 42%
liberal 37%
*Note in the article the CBC uses the term “Tories” instead of Conservative’s and they dont use the term “Grits” its Liberals, Not that there is anything wrong with that IMO but it is an interesting note.
They won’t ‘get it’. For Libs it’s all about power, not about Canadians. They are tanking because the blinders are off, the media and the 10 second sound bite are becoming extinct.
Uninformed sources tell us that Liberal HezCoderre, on behalf of his Chef Liberal Ignatieff, has launched a “Draft Emma for LaSalle-Emard” campaign.
LaSalle-Emard is Liberal ex-PM PMJr’s former seat.
Slogan: Dump Lisa.
Website: Here*.
Emma’s credentials:
1. Quote: “Today, I’m ashamed to be Canadian.” Check.
2. Civil Lawyer from O’s “Lesbian and Gay Bar Association of Chicago”. Check.
3. Jewish. Check.
4. Quote: “But I also believe in the United Nations.” Check.
She’s my kind of gal, quotes Ig-LibChef. Bring it on.
…-
“Why Canada Shouldn’t Walk Out On Ahmadinejad”
Emma Ruby-Sachs
Lawyer”
(Warning: HuffPo)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/emma-rubysachs/why-canada-shouldnt-walk_b_296029.html
*lib.caca
And Iggy’s flame shields just opened up a hole.
http://www.ekos.com/admin/articles/cbc-2009-09-23.pdf
The Libs’s below 30%….within the margin of error of Dion’s stunning performance.
A poll like this a month from now and there will be a putsch. It may start solely with his advisors, but it definitely begins.
That poll is definitely leaving a mark.
Bryan R,
Saw that, I would like to see how they are defining Toronto….if they are just talking about 416 only then thats a phenomenal result.
Could mean between 3 and 5 ridings of the approx 25 in 416 go Con. But that also means that anything outside of 416 is toast for the Liberals.
Iggy’s big strength in Quebec is women, its the only category he leads in…..a problem for the Cons. But cutting into that lead breaks the Liberals, Iggy may yet perform worse than Dion….
Time for iggy to get back on the “Cherry Beach” express.
Last words go to Liberal Ignatieff, that cunning linguist from O’s Harvard.
Quote: “Actions speak louder than words, Mr. Harper.”*
Right on. Thank you.
The proof?
As your Ad$Cam leader said:
“Jean Chretien A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It’s a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it’s because it’s proven.”
Go home, Liberal Ignatieff.
*urlm.in/dbpv (lib.caca)
As impossible as it is to get his opposition to agree to this, Stephen Harper is an excellent politician and has used (pretty much) every policy stance the Liberals have made against them. He either takes advantage of weak Liberal leadership and defines a policy to the public before the Liberals do, or he produces an adequate compromise on their policy when they’re trying to bring down the government (which makes them look power hungry if they continue with their efforts).
The Liberal’s main problem at the moment is also the reason many conservatives are not too happy with Stephen Harper as a leader. Stephen Harper is a very moderate leader in Canadian political terms, which means that the Liberals can not introduce policy which separates them from the Conservatives without moving into the loony left with the NDP.
The string title is a bit misleading. It’s not that Liberals ‘don’t get it’. They get it very well.
They manipulate and obscure because their agenda is incompatible with a free and equitable democratic society. They must obscure the agenda. Ethics are situational at best when selling statist authoritarianism as utopia.
It is very revealing that they would be willing to run with no substantive public policy platform because there is none they have which we would support if they told us the true intent of their social engineering. Best leave it unstated.
Once you grasp the fact that most of what is labled ‘liberal’ or ‘progressive’ in the modern political theater is in fact some form of statist socialism driving social engineering with police state conformity and using kleptocracy and interest group patronage to buy and maintain power – you realize the need for obscuring deception come election time.
That, and the galactic arrogance of liberal rain makers and social engineers which hold the intellect of the voter (and average Joe) in contempt and presume to run his life for him,- you can understand why the Liberal election agenda is to fool, con or buy as many voters as it takes to get into power. No policy just fairytales and patronage IOUs.
We don need no steeking publicly acceptable platform, we’re building utopia, one corruption scandal at a time.
Look how well the strategy of “we’ll get to specifics at the last minute, then vote on it before anybody can read it, is working out for Obama.
Gonna get him his own pubbie congress.
Quite a few of the blogs and commentators in the media from the left wing of the political perspective aren’t decrying Count Iggy and the Liberal Party’s lack of coherent policy.
~lance
That may be because they hope to win the way Obama won, at the emotional level with no coherent policy that Conservative could coherently attack.
Or, it could be that they fear that the NDP might steal Liberal policy, make it more extreme, and shave Leftist votes from the Liberal Party.
I think it’s the former.
It won’t work for them.
Why?
Because Iggy is no stealth candidate like Obama was, because Iggy is not a smooth talker and a photogenic super example of an Identity Icon like Obama was, and last but not least, because Prime Minister Harper can’t be demonized like President Bush was.
What a great liberal party leader Iggy is!
Co-worker just directed me to this poll @sympatico.ca
Weekly Poitical Pulse as of 10:16am
Who will you vote for if an election is called?
conservative 58%
liberal 21%
ndp 8%
bq 1%
not sure 12%
*36101 respondents, not scientifically valid,results updated every minute
Interesting to note No Green Party in poll
Sorry forgot to edit Spelling error “Political” not enough coffee yet
Bryan, you know what pi$$es me off about all these polls? It’s that they use the whole Canadian population in calculating the Bloc’s share. By doing that, they deliberately and knowingly skew the results.
Lance, just ignore the “shivers up my leg” crowd.
He started out as a really cute, really smart young prof
How did he morph into this old fool? I suggest it was ego. It will do to a politician/professor what ‘the ring’ did to Smeagol the Hobbit.
The Libs don’t believe they need to waste time on policy vision, or planning … why should they, they are Canada’s ‘natural governing party’.
Louise i totaly agree
The poll still stands at 59% conservative & 21% liberal with 37836 respondents as of 10:50 am est.
Now if this was a ctv.ca poll & the comments were open The left would be saying the cons are manipulating the poll
after reading much of what unfolded at the UN yesterday, it’s very good to start a new day with this posting ridiculing the Liberals in Canada. Some days I hope Iggy stays for a few more years, in that if he’s replaced by another Dionesque type at their helm, it just doesn’t test the conservatives to any great degree.
“It’s a proof. A proof is a proof” ect… the gift that just keeps giving jaja!
agreed Louise, the Bloq should be “*Bloq” and disclaimed as “results may vary”
If I didn’t know any better, I would think the first commenter was a homophobe. Just sayin’. (But I thought liberals were tolerant! What’s up with that!)
Picture a rotting carcass laying by the side of the road, with a few frazzled and rough-looking buzzards picking at the bones. The Liberal Party of Toronto.
Momar: “He started out as a really cute, really smart young prof … How did he morph into this old fool?”
Like you say: ego. He reminds me of Oscar Wilde’s The Picture of Dorian Gray. Character eventually shows up in one’s facial features.
Take Pierre Trudeau and Al Gore as two examples: Both of them ended up looking reptilian, something about their slitty eyes and and the set of their mouths that gives you the creeps.
Count Iggula seems to be heading in the same direction.
The fact remains that no matter what Ignegative and the Liberals say Canadians are ignoring them in increasing numbers.
Watching Iggy in his press conference this morning was painful. He opened it by saying he was standing in this field doing his job. What the hell does that mean? Hello….he is the guy who voted to close parliament so he could have an election less than a week ago.
He makes speeches which are not routed in reality. The Board of Trade speech was a bunch of fabrication and distortions. Canadians saw a man desperate to malign the country and the government showing he is in it for himself.
Ahh! Its a fine day to be a Conservative.
And a finer day to be a Canadian.
Thankyou Mr Harper and your CPC team!
Go Canada!!
Give Iggy a break – it can’t be easy … living out of his suitcase and all.
Regarding the skewed polling, what I wanted to say in addition, but forgot not enough sleep last night), was that 9% represents a lot more seats in parliament for the Bloc than one might think. Hell, the Greens routinely get that much and they haven’t got a hope in hadies of every gaining a seat in the funny farm, because their share represents 9% or 10% of the whole Canadian population. GRRRRRRRR!
Somebody with a brain that’s working this morning should do the math and come up with the Quebec only percentage that can be inferred from the 9% of 33 million.
“These Liberals are completely wrong.”
Lance, I always thought that being completely wrong was implied in the label “Liberal”.
Being completely wrong is like a given with these clowns. The only thing that’s kept them in power has been a captive media machine that character assassinates any and all opposition. Now that the wheels have come off that bus, the Liberals are revealed as idiots who can’t find their @ss with both hands and a map.
I mean, look at Special K. Sending protest pickets to the Harper Timmies speech, the Liberals end up looking like the Friends Of Achmadinnerjacket Club.
No map is going to help that boy.
He opened it by saying he was standing in this field doing his job. What the hell does that mean?
~hollinm
Maybe Iggy meant he was outstanding in the field of doing his job.
When an unidentified aide to Ignatieff was asked the question, “Where did the Liberal Party find this goof, anyhow?” the aide answered making a circular motion around his right temple with his index finger, “Why out,…standing in his field.”
“Maybe Iggy meant he was outstanding in the field of doing his job.” Oh God that was a great one co2…I’m still laughing. So true!
Phantom said, “I mean, look at Special K. Sending protest pickets to the Harper Timmies speech, the Liberals end up looking like the Friends Of Achmadinnerjacket Club.”
No kidding, Phantom. I actually laughed out loud looking at the post titles on Liblogs yesterday.
They were all marching to Kinsella’s beat and calling out Harper for actually doing something in Canada, about Canadian jobs, in a Canadian institution instead of wasting time at the UN listening to foreign boors ramble on about nothing.
Like hello Liberals, “It’s the economy, stupid.”
The Count actually complained yesterday that Harper himself wasn’t at the UN…so that he could walk out of the UN. Ummm, what?
CalgaryGrit (the best Liberal blog) was even shaking his head over it with his Tims vs the UN post. Hilarious.
Sympatico.ca Poll as of 2:00PM est.
58% conservative
20% liberal
8% ndp
1% bq
13% not sure
44851 responses
I don’t care what the polls say the Liberals will take all the seats once again in Toronto. Sue-Ann Levy was the Conservative candidate in the recent by-election in St. Pauls, an excellent one too, with an MBA and a high profile writer for the Toronto Sun. Didn’t matter, she was fighting against the apathy of the voter and the massive Liberal vote of brain-dead leftists, like the Teachers and public unions, that always vote Liberal.
The facts and reasons that we hold simply do not matter to these people and this will only increase as industries and their employees move out of Toronto leaving the hard core leftist and the immigrant to continue the tradition of the past 20 years.
I have worked for many Conservative candidates and almost without exception in my riding that I canvassed every Liberal sign was on the lawn of a public employee.
What’s wrong with being a homophobe? Especially if you’re born that way?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3rmJWCqlNk
A Liberal MP talking Green Shift.