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Ted, actually, it is close. You are avoiding the stats for the swing states. You will see just how close as soon as Obama goes off the rails which will happen very quickly. Interesting too how the msm is already saying that the almost 500 point drop on the Dow today is the result of “recession worries”….not that it is the worry of the market due to the election of Comrade Obama. No doubt had the market gone up by 500 (as it normally should after an election) it would be all because of the election of the Messiah.
It is disturbing that anyone who does not march in step with Obama is immediately called a racist.
No good can come of that.
My Canadian brother and I were air force brats in the U.S. and remember very well how kids in the small town school in Missouri we went to shunned us ‘integrated’ air force kids. We also remember going to a scout camp and finding there was one swimming pool for white kids and another for black kids. This was in the early sixties.
So I am happy the U.S. has elected a ‘black’ President. But I would have much preferred one with much more experience and policies that would shrink government involvement in individual lives.
I am so grateful we reelected a Conservative government here. I feel badly for the American who posted a comment. You must feel trod on.
I thought McCain made a wonderful speech to concede and can only wonder what kind of a speech Obama would have made in such circumstances. For sure he wouldn’t have blamed himself for his defeat…
dp sez: “Evans- You’ve never met a hippy, and deep down you are a liberal.
A white supremacist is calling me a liberal… Strangely enough, I’m OK with that…
Nicola, please, spare us your recollections of 40+ years ago. By the way, by the mid-60’s a segregated pool would not have been the norm even in the south here.
Obama’s skin color victory for which you are grateful, not the content of his good ideas, which you concede won’t “shrink government involvement in individual lives” which in fact because of his “inexperience” has the potential to make lives harder here and with citizens overseas whose thug governments such as Russia will feel unthreatened in their autocratic behavior proves just what?
Reading your inconsistent post again – skin color victory of a vacuous liberal good for America, conservative victory good for Canada – makes you look like an idiot. Just exactly is it you are trying to logically say?
I’d like to remind a couple of you about the rules here. Take your extended discussions private, please.
I found it passing strange today that instead of like most Conservatives I know. Liberals on the radio kept voicing a fear Obama would be assassinated. As well as malice against the other side. One went as far as to say any State that did not vote for him was Racist. Now that is strange. You would think they would be happy. Rejoicing in fact. We as Libertarians & conservatives just took the election as the American peoples electoral wish. With no ill will towards Obama just distaste for his politics. Sad there gonna learn the hard way what we finally have in the Canada’s, about would be Political messiahs. There a catastrophe in the making no matter what ideology. Wait & see. By the way was 100% wrong in my prediction .Caw caw. Hate feathers
I am not rejoicing in a Obama victory – I’m sorry I didn’t make that clear. I am just pointing out how far the United States has come in not that much time. I don’t think it is maudlin to remember how different things were and how they touched me when I was that age. Did you ever read Black Like Me about a white man who underwent skin treatments to live the life briefly as a black man and see how he was treated? An amazing true story.
Proud as punch my little comment inspired a whole thread here.
Remarkably sensitive aren’t we, Kate, given that your site exists to call liberals traitors, anti-semites and worse on a regular basis…
Like all blowhards ya can dish it out but ya can’t take it.
Posted by: real at November 5, 2008 8:04 PM >
“Proud as punch my little comment inspired a whole thread here.”
Defiantly something to be proud of!
Yicks, where do you people hide in “real” life? No don’t tell me I really don’t need to know. Honestly though, there are “real” things in life you could be proud of, if you got out in the sunlight a little.
“Your sickening unAmerican traitorous, racist, money-grubbing, torturing, hateful ideology got struck a death blow and you and your fellow jackal-blowhards are left writhing on the floor, gasping for breath as the final death tremors subside and your bodies stiffen into rigour mortis”.
Defiantly not a proud day in a “real” man’s life. A trolling liberal hack on the other hand?
I’d like to remind a couple of you about the rules here. Take your extended discussions private, please.
The “free mortgages and gasoline” crowd was silent during Obama’s victory speech when he said (http://tinyurl.com/5j2zwn):
“The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep. We may not get there in one year or even in one term.”
“This victory alone is not the change we seek. It is only the chance for us to make that change. And that cannot happen if we go back to the way things were.”
“It can’t happen without you, without a new spirit of service, a new spirit of sacrifice.”
SACRIFICE?? WTF? When do I get my money-for-nothing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ikOxi9yYk
Duly noted. Sorry Kate.
I don’t understand how the supposed conservatives on this blog, can believe that Mcain was a true conservative or for that matter how one could believe that republicans are true conservatives. With the exception of Ron Paul. George Bush increased the budget deficit several trillion dollars during his presidency allowed for a 700 billion dollar bailout, took away constitutional rights with the patriot act. No matter what side of the political spectrum you are on you have to admit that Bush was a disaster and by no means a true conservative. George W. Bush a fascist, but not a conservative.
I am not saying Obama will change a thing or that he should have won. However you cannot sit here and truly believe that he will be more left wing than Bush, and the current Republicans. At least Obama admits to wanting to redistribute wealth.
Also regarding all this talk of what has ruined the country: Unions, Taxes, Immigrants take your pic. These issues are not what ruined Canada or the United States. It is Fiat currency. Jobs would not have had too been shipped off shore to low cost producing countries if inflation was not allowed to make our countries fat and lazy don’t blame unions. Unions have simply been symptom of the cause as well as taxes and immigrants. Decade after decade of monetary debasement required higher and higher wages simply to keep pace with the inflation rate.
Nix
I guess I should have included in my predictions……mindlessly gleeful protuberances and display of tongues by people with less than half a brain!
Nix, partly right, wholly wrong.
If you don’t think Obama was elected on promises to move the country to the left, you’re either delusional or intentionally dishonest.
McCain certainly is no conservative. He won the nomination by being less conservative than his opponents, and had nothing when it came to offering a vision to the nation. No one here thought he was a the perfect candidate.
What we did think, and, largely, still do, is that he’s be much less of a horrible trainwreck than Barry O.
“Those disparities though are the result of cultural, social and religious differences and have nothing to do with one’s race.”
Nothing? Sorry, Evans. The nature/nurture debate has moved into the realm of genomics. The bald facts of the matter are that genetic heritage plays a role in human expression, and that there are differences in the aggregate is manifestly obvious.
The presumption that culture, social expression and religious preference are disassociated from any sort of innate tendency is utterly, mind-numbingly, stupid.
People are different in shape, size, color and capabilities. This is a GOOD thing. It does not alter the universality of fundamental rights. Note that I say “fundamental”, not “equal”. People are not equal, because people are individuals and equality erases distinction. Fundamental rights, however, are those truths we hold self-evident as a consequence of common humanity. Even the word “right”, however, belies an attempt to avoid the requisite duties and responsibilities required of all people by their creator.
The two minute hate, however, seems to be characteristic of the species as a whole. Admittedly, some individuals seem to glory in its expression. Such people should be thrashed, but mercy still seems to be a legacy characteristic in our society.
Do go on.
Iv’e been finding a little solace in our new Comrade Obama’s presidency. Just think his friend William Ayers the Chicago professor/ terrorist – of the underground movement, won’t Bomb the White House while his bud is there. Well you have to find something to lighten the moment.
Yukon Gold,
I guess if you are going to shoot for something you might as well shoot for “much less of a horrible trainwreck than Barry O.”
Yikes! Nothing like setting the bar low.
I guess my point is that no matter who gets in they will be a disaster. Too many problems to count. There is no long term vision from the right or the left. Everything that is done is for re-election purposes which eventually leads to pandering.
Nix
A two-headed lamb was born in the West Bank. Check that out.
I expect a large earthquake at any time, stay away from LA and SF for the next week.
The morons have spoken. Full throttle into the wall! None of that sissy half speed stuff.
When you look at the number the MSM has performed on Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber, what do you think the next “saying” will be when the Leftard MSM tries the same thing on future threats to the Democratic “dynasty-in-the-making”? Will it be – “you’ve been Palined” or “you’ve been Plumbed”? Either way – its going to happen.
Nix – you’re not paying attention. Conservatives know who they are. Its those who have voted Democratic, for the One – believing that they were voting for a centrist party – who haven’t a clue.
Must.Reread.Liberal.Fascism
a differnt bob,
Conservatives do not know who they are. There is a religous right a constitutional right that could give a rats a$$ about religon and hundreds of others in between. Every party rules to the left it is what keeps them in power. If you voted for Bush in the last election you ending up voting for a super left goverment. BAILOUT. NO PHYSCIAL RESPOSIBLITY. LIMITITNG CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. You should be assamed of what the right has become.
Pathetic.
Well Senator Obama won of course. 63 million to 56 million votes is pretty close. The gathering reduced to 119 persons. 56 leave disgruntled. Leaving 63 to cheer.
He will have his turn at bat. A worthy opponent will pitch fast or whatever is demanded. Fairly, no bean balls. Now for rhetorical question/s. This regarding the MSM.
(1)Suppose the press tried honestly to present both candidates equally, in order to inform the public. Giving as far as they could, a fair shake to both?.
(2) Suppose the press had turned against Senator Obama and Senator Biden instead of Senator McCain and Governor Palin. Just in exact measure?
We will never know the answer,never know if it meant a million votes the other way- or six million. The American press, no less than much of the Canadian press, have cast aside decency.
a differnt bob,
Conservatives do not know who they are. There is a religous right a constitutional right that could give a rats a$$ about religon and hundreds of others in between. Every party rules to the left it is what keeps them in power. If you voted for Bush in the last election you ending up voting for a super left goverment. BAILOUT. NO PHYSCIAL RESPOSIBLITY. LIMITITNG CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. You should be assamed of what the right has become.
Pathetic.
Well Senator Obama won of course. 63 million to 56 million votes is pretty close. The gathering reduced to 119 persons. 56 leave disgruntled. Leaving 63 to cheer.
He will have his turn at bat. A worthy opponent will pitch fast or whatever is demanded. Fairly, no bean balls. Now for rhetorical question/s. This regarding the MSM.
(1)Suppose the press tried honestly to present both candidates equally, in order to inform the public. Giving as far as they could, a fair shake to both?.
(2) Suppose the press had turned against Senator Obama and Senator Biden instead of Senator McCain and Governor Palin. Just in exact measure?
We will never know the answer,never know if it meant a million votes the other way- or six million. The American press, no less than much of the Canadian press, have cast aside decency.
Well Senator Obama won of course. 63 million to 56 million votes is pretty close. The gathering reduced to 119 persons. 56 leave disgruntled. Leaving 63 to cheer.
He will have his turn at bat. A worthy opponent will pitch fast or whatever is demanded. Fairly, no bean balls. Now for rhetorical question/s. This regarding the MSM.
(1)Suppose the press tried honestly to present both candidates equally, in order to inform the public. Giving as far as they could, a fair shake to both?.
(2) Suppose the press had turned against Senator Obama and Senator Biden instead of Senator McCain and Governor Palin. Just in exact measure?
We will never know the answer,never know if it meant a million votes the other way- or six million. The American press, no less than much of the Canadian press, have cast aside decency.
Well Senator Obama won of course. 63 million to 56 million votes is pretty close. The gathering reduced to 119 persons. 56 leave disgruntled. Leaving 63 to cheer.
He will have his turn at bat. A worthy opponent will pitch fast or whatever is demanded. Fairly, no bean balls. Now for rhetorical question/s. This regarding the MSM.
(1)Suppose the press tried honestly to present both candidates equally, in order to inform the public. Giving as far as they could, a fair shake to both?.
(2) Suppose the press had turned against Senator Obama and Senator Biden instead of Senator McCain and Governor Palin. Just in exact measure?
We will never know the answer,never know if it meant a million votes the other way- or six million. The American press, no less than much of the Canadian press, have cast aside decency.
Well Senator Obama won of course. 63 million to 56 million votes is pretty close. The gathering reduced to 119 persons. 56 leave disgruntled. Leaving 63 to cheer.
He will have his turn at bat. A worthy opponent will pitch fast or whatever is demanded. Fairly, no bean balls. Now for rhetorical question/s. This regarding the MSM.
(1)Suppose the press tried honestly to present both candidates equally, in order to inform the public. Giving as far as they could, a fair shake to both?.
(2) Suppose the press had turned against Senator Obama and Senator Biden instead of Senator McCain and Governor Palin. Just in exact measure?
We will never know the answer,never know if it meant a million votes the other way- or six million. The American press, no less than much of the Canadian press, have cast aside decency.
Oh no, “Too many comments in too short a time”.
Really sorry, I wonder if it is my computer?
Oh calamity! Multiple posts of mine.
And I, for one, welcome our new negro overlord.
Posted by: bob
That’s unacceptable. Mods?
“Did you ever read Black Like Me about a white man who underwent skin treatments to live the life briefly as a black man and see how he was treated? An amazing true story.”
Absolutely Nicola, my grandparents had a copy in the basement at the farm – I’ve read it three or four times. I actually heard that his life was cut short by the after effects of those treatments. John Griffith? That man was a hero.
At this point I feel a real sense of loss for the people so absorbed by hatred of conservatives that I am apparently much happier that Barack Obama won than they are. It was some kind of sweetness to be watching CNN and to see the tears on the faces of Jesse Jackson and Oprah and so many people in that crowd. I’ve believed all along that Obama’s election would acheive a psychological emancipation – it’s about the only thing in his favor IMHO, but it’s something alright.
Tenebris at 9:11 PM
there are those whom don’t understand what racism is, I think richard is one of those,either that or he is to dumb to understand that he has missed the boat completely
Opray is the richest woman in America. Who’s she crying for, and where was she when they were throwing oreos at Michael Steele?
Tenebris: “Nothing? Sorry, Evans. The nature/nurture debate has moved into the realm of genomics. The bald facts of the matter are that genetic heritage plays a role in human expression, and that there are differences in the aggregate is manifestly obvious.
batb was referencing cultural political behaviors (ie democracy, freedom, healthcare and the provision of education) which are absolutely shaped on the “nurture” side of the argument. Genetics has nothing to do with it. No man is born genetically predisposed to be a slave just as no man is born genetically predisposed to enslave another. Were you to discuss physical differences or mental abilities, than yeah, I’d have to agree, genetics play a part.
The “racism” attack is easily countered.
Never say he’s black if you disagree with something. Just legitimately and in “good faith” take issue with his stance/policies/whatever.
If “they” bring it up and accuse you of racism.
“I never said anything about him being black. Who’d the racist here?”
Throw it back in their faces…and introduce them to your lawyer.
“Opray is the richest woman in America.”
That’s why it’s a psychological emancipation. I didn’t think Jesse Jackson was sincire so it was very affecting for me. People like Rev Wright can’t tell Michelle Obama that America is not for them any more. It’s hard to understand why she would have believed it before but there you go.
One of the few good things about these election results is that I figured it would finally put an end to the PVS (Permanent Victim Syndrome) mindset of too many African Americans. After all, now that America has elected a black president, no one can ever say that a black person in America can’t achieve everything they want.
But in less than 24 hours I’ve already heard a new narrative to get around this. You see, Barack Obama isn’t actually a black man. Nope, he’s of “mixed race”. According to these same twits, if Obama were actually black then he’d never have been elected.
Expect Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to start using the same talking points pretty darn soon.
Sigh.
“At least the blacks are happy.”
Its funny. When I was a little kid (in the frickin’ 1960’s, for God sakes, before all the civil rights uproar) I was taught all men are created equal. We didn’t even HAVE any black people up here at that time, there were maybe five of ’em in Hamilton. I never even saw a real black person until I was like 10 or something.
None the less, I was brought up in the belief that there’s no difference worth talking about regarding where you’re from or what you look like. That’s how I go about my business, and the older I get the more I find that this is how people actually are in life.
Which is why I have no problem with security searching target groups based on a description. The other thing I know from being an old guy is people are influenced by who they hang out with. You want to find terrorists, you go where they hang and start asking questions.
Obama hangs with Bill Ayers. That’s all I need to know. You lie down with dogs, you get fleas.
“Slevin….you idiot….the election was closer than you will ever admit. I’m surprised you used the word “math” and not “number work”, given your limited intelligence.”
I’m surprised he could count that far using his fingers. Truly amazing! An idiot savant?
“Proud as punch my little comment inspired a whole thread here.”
This insignificant little turd is under the false impression that his drivel is somehow “inspirational”.
Pathetic.
Posted by: Tenebris at November 5, 2008 9:11 PM
Like OMG!!! A conservative!!!! OMG!!!
I had seriously considered giving up that any remain. Perhaps a species protection act is in order.
Maybe Harper will do something conservative?
“And I, for one, welcome our new negro overlord.
Posted by: bob
That’s unacceptable. Mods?
Posted by: Scott at November 5, 2008 10:05 PM ”
What are you yapping about,Scott. It is unaccepyable only because it is wrong…i.e. Barack Huessin Obama is 1/2 white,1/2 Arab,ergo he is not a negro.
Bob should have written our new Kafir-hating,Sharia loving,anti-semite Emir.
I find it very sad that anyone cares what color or race he is. If all men are truely created equal, then it shouldn’t matter. Obama is 6% black, 44% Arab and 50% white. To some people, even 1% arab or black would be too much.
Obama’s father was part Arab and part African. So he’s labeled as black. His Mother was white, but what race? Irish, scottish, English, jewish? If he was 6% Jewish would we call him Jewish?
Obama is of mixed race, which most of us are. His skin shows the pigment of a darker man because genetics usually shows the darker pigments as dominent.
Give the man a chance.
Yes, agreed. Step back and let the man get up to the plate.
What may engender incendiary statements is the callous and uncouth attacks on a woman- Governor of Alaska. She has gone home now, it is over for her at this time.
Then there is old Joy Malbon. Always thought passable Joy was sort of detached and a professional. Tonight old Joy was souped up. The target? Sarah Palin. Lawyers for the pubbies going up to check on Sarah’s spending. Alaska bound. A nasty statement from some unidentified source- said to be the renegade pubbie advisers. Talking about Wasilla hicks spending big, throwing monies around and not theirs.
I thought that at least they could leave the subject alone. The pubbies are going and gone.