66 Replies to “Not Since Christ Was A Black Belt”

  1. What’s religous about a headscarf…I’ve been under the impression that it was optional for Muslims.

  2. “A federal Conservative MP as well as the Liberals and the NDP have defended the right of girl’s to wear religious head-scarfs.”
    “the right of girl’s” What, girl’s is plural for girl these days? Where’s the editor?

  3. This is just the beginning. They can take the headscarf off to participate in Judo. The headscarf is not required in the Koran it is a custom made by man.I believe that these children are used by their parents to break the customs and rules of our sports and it is just part of the beginning to change our way of life to theirs. If they want to keep the scarf then join sports that it doesn’t matter in or take up needlework.

  4. We simply MUST get Islamic women interested in swimming activities. I’d love to see burkha clad women on the high diving platform, only then will we have true equality!
    btw, the article was about judo, which has nothing to do with breaking boards.

  5. I don’t understand. Wearing a hijab is all about assuming second-class status. And this girl got treated as a second-class citizen.
    So what’s the problem?

  6. Too bad the Mom doesn’t know that Christian women have for centuries covered their heads in obedience to scripture. It was only during the “liberation” of the 1960’s that women started going to Church without a hat or scarf. If Mommy wants to blame some one she should blame the liberals both for getting her daughter to fight and to fight bareheaded.

  7. The shear stupidity of wanting your child to compete in Judo with a scarf around her neck aside, I thought the same thing when I read her stupid comment. Judo originated in Japan and is heavily influenced by the Shinto faith. Just who exactly is the bigot here?

  8. “btw, the article was about judo, which has nothing to do with breaking boards.”
    Artistic license. Breaking boards sounded better in
    scripture.

  9. Some consistency would be a good idea, both in the sports associations and in the affected religious communities.
    1) How does a girl practice judo for (months, years?) without this coming up before? All of a sudden (with cameras rolling) the girl gets disqualified. This could not have been her first judo competition.
    2) Is the hijab (or turban or kirpan) mandatory or not? No exceptions, ever? No context allowed?

  10. Actually the book Moronasis has been widely discredited by Biblical scholars.
    The book that more accurately relates the correct message is the book Cobra Kai with “And the Lord said unto his angel, “Sweep the Leg”…

  11. My religion says that I can wear a shark-suit with a friggin laser mounted to my helmet.
    Can I play too?

  12. “There is not just Christians, there are other religions. They should be fair to everybody.”
    There’s the crutch. If she really believed that,she would the rules of the Judo Assoc! As an aside,if I was one of the other girls participating,I would have said let her stay. Then when she came up to fight me,I would promptly proceed to throw her to the floor by the scarf,after getting a good twist on it! And then listen to the whining as she lay there with a broken neck.
    Excellent point MM!

  14. “Conservative MP Rahim Jaffer, who is Muslim, has said that kicking kids out of sporting events is not the way to help communities live together in harmony.”
    Conservative Canadian Citizen John West who is no particular religion says that kids who refuse to play by the rules of their “adopted country” is no help in living together in harmony.

  15. “I think they should change the rules because there are lots of people in the world,”
    Creeping shariah. The actual demand is to place Islam above other faiths including secularism.
    It’s the same demands and accompanying law suits going on with the Hairdresser in London Ontario, who refused to hire a vieled Muslim – the Muslim who won’t follow uniform rules at Pearson – and the MSA demands for no booze to be served at a U of T pub.
    The only way to end this is to end the insidious idea of multiculturalism. Assert our culture in our land. And if need be, inact laws to neuter all aspects of political Islam and its executive agent, shariah.

  16. “There is not just Christians, there are other religions. They should be fair to everybody.”
    Perhaps when the Islamic world starts being “fair” to other religions (i.e, allowing them to exist and not persecuting them), then we can be fair to them. In the meantime, they aren’t, so why should we be?

  17. Muslims don’t give a damn about women in sports, their absence from the Olympics for decades tells me so. This is, as irwin points out, just another disingenuous protest to leverage sharia law with. It’s always testing, probing and pushing the envelope with them.
    The correct response is that if you can’t dress in the required attire for an activity in the country that you’ve immigrated, then, you sit on the sidelines. You can’t produce a photo ID because you refuse to have your picture taken without a burqa, then, cars and airplanes aren’t your mode of travel.

  18. I don’t think that religion has anything to do with this. Every organized sport that I know of has rules for uniforms. You abide by them or you don’t compete.
    Those who don’t like the rules are perfectly free to have their own sport with their own rules.

  19. Question:
    How does a little Muslim girl so devout she won’t doff her headscarf participate in Karate? Its full of infidel religion from Okinawa! Or is it only Christians that are infidels?
    Can you say SET UP?!!! Suuuure you can.
    New CBC show, “Little Hostile On The Prairie”.

  20. “I don’t think that religion has anything to do with this.”
    You’re right. Religion has little to do with Islam other than as a cover. Like the burka.
    Political, imperialist, supremicist Islam requires that apostates be killed. This isn’t religious either.
    It’s the military penalty for desertion.
    Some other facts, proving that Islam has little to do with religion:
    In Bukhari (Hadith, accompaning the Quran) 97% of the jihad references are about war and 3% are about the inner struggle.
    Even Hell is political. There are 146 references to Hell in the Quran. Only 6% of those in Hell are there for moral failings—murder, theft, etc. The other 94% of the reasons for being in Hell are for the intellectual sin of disagreeing with Mohammed, a political crime. Hence, Islamic Hell is a political prison for those who speak against Islam.

  21. I agree with irwin daisy regarding “islamification”, if I can call it that. It’s just another area where Muslims demand that we tear down the rules and parameters of everything, including sport, so that their religious needs are accommodated. It is a direct part of their faith and, some might argue, directly related to Muslim obligations to carry out jihad (peaceful in this case).
    The rules of various martial arts and other sports have been in place for decades, even centuries. The great thing about them is that they are objective; they weren’t crafted with Christian or Jewish or Hindu religious requirements in mind. It is as close to one-size-fits-all that you can find in this world. Here are the rules, play by them.
    The assertion that the rules of sport don’t affect peoples of other faiths is crap. Take the Christian girl who believe she has to wear a floor length skirt all the time, even if swimming. Well, she can swim but chances are she’s not going to make the swim team because of the unbelievable drag in the water compared to the next girl over who’s wearing nothing but a skin-tight bathing suit. Same applies to judo or soccer or anything else.
    The rules are the rules. They don’t change now because a Muslim (or any other PC group of the month) is raising a stink about it.

  22. On a purely practical note, throws, chokes and holds using the clothing are legal in Karate matches, aren’t they? For sure they are in Judo and Aikido.
    Who is going to be able to resist grabbing that headscarf and dumping girlie on the floor for a match point? How about pulling it down over her eyes and then doing whatever they want until she gets it pulled back up?
    It’s like gluing a handle to your head. A big, red one. With a sign on it in glowing letters that reads “For best results pull here.”
    Or am I just mean? ~:D

  23. CJOB from Wpg.covering this live now..just had Shahinna(sp) Siddiqui,the mouth of Muslim from Wpg.on.She likened the banning of the hajib,to banning the ‘blacks’from sports previously.

  24. A caller to CJOB that was at the competition said she found it interesting,that prior to this little ‘hijab news hound’ going to her match…the media all showed up..caller felt that media were ‘alerted’ to this leading up to event.A set-up indeed.Media vault at cjob will have this.

  25. Not allowed to compete because of a head scarf, that’s not heart break. This is heartbreak:
    I am a world class synchronized swimmer who has spent years practicing under very solitary conditions. I have been refused try outs with every recognized team in the country. Their stated reason is that it’s a sport for women only. But in reality I think it’s because of my insistence that I can only perform my best while in the nude.

  26. Judo is similar to wrestling. There’s a lot of grappling on the ground and hold-downs and so forth. Often you can’t see a particpant’s face or head because it’s underneath the opponent’s body.
    A loop of cloth could easily cause strangulation, and it might not be obvious when it’s happening. Also, a hand could get caught in it and get broken during ground work.
    Judo is not karate or boxing, where it’s easy to see what’s going on. The safety ruling was a good one. Well done, Sensei.

  27. An example of how Muslims subvert and twist our cultural norms:
    Poll from the Star:
    Was it right for Muslim airport worker to be punished over her long skirt? Yes 57%, No 43%
    Letter writer, Ashhar Jafri, Mississauga notes:
    “The lady should be allowed her dignity. According to the article, she is not compromising security or safety. She took the initiative and put in time, effort and money into the solution. She feels strongly enough about it to stay home from her job. The rule is obviously outdated and sexist.”
    Of the million and one wrong things stated in this letter:
    “Dignity” – however, a woman is worth half a man and should become a ghost, or walking post office box in public.
    “Initiative/solution” – to conspire against a company rule that she had previously honoured for five years.
    “She feels stongly enough to stay home from her job” – she should be fired on that alone.
    “The rule is obviously outdated” – compared to what? The 7th century rules of allah?
    “And sexist” – goes without comment.

  28. Please forgive my insensitivity, isn’t it possible to design faith-friendly sports gear for this and other sports? We must encourage our kids to be more active, many of them could use some exercise. This would be a silly place for anyone to take a stand.

  30. Not true Mark. Tai Chi is Taoist. Karate, Judo, Aikido, all Buddhist. They descend from the Shaolin Temple. They all came from India along with Buddhism.
    No serious Muslim is going to last 20 minutes without hearing something that offends Islam.
    About the only martial art I can think of that isn’t based on one religion or another is shooting.

  31. Taoist? Buddhist?
    Judo was invented in Japan by Kano Jigoro in the late 1800’s. It was a direct derivation of Jujutsu.
    Since Jigoro’s father was a Shinto priest, I would would say Judo is Shinto.

  32. Shamrock – let the Muslims take a page from the Amish, wear what you want, don’t impose it on anyone else, and shut up about it. There aren’t any Hasidic Jews in fedoras complaining about not playing for the NFL either.

  34. The big thing here is the fact that they are participating (or trying to participate) in sports with other cultures – regardless of any motivations by parents or whatever – the whole thing is exposure outside their own culture and exposure to athletics. This is how people slowly integrate into a society.
    A judo outfit is kind of a modest garb anyway and someone could come up with a wrestling cap style judo hijab (or stick in a rule – no grabbing the hijab – or introduce jijabi-style judo) so they can participate.
    Now if we could get them into girls hockey – hockey stuff is modest garb too – and you could fit a hijab under the helmet – then that would really be great.

  35. Phantom:
    Buddhist isn’t too far off the mark, since Shintoism and Buddhism have close historical ties. A bit like Christianity and Judaism.

  36. Shintoism, at least during WWII, was a bit like Islam – suicide bombers, supremacism, imperialism, anti-Semitic and all.
    I forgot to mention, in the above noted Star Poll, the majority of letter writers who were against, were Anglo Saxon males. Of the Liberal variety, I’d imagine.
    Says something about the paleo-Libs. Keep ’em pregnant, with a burka on in the kitchen.

  37. I only studied Tai Chi in any depth Rabbit, so my knowledge of the other styles and their history is less complete. In my experience there is no conflict for a Christian in studying these arts, assuming a willingness to tolerate the existence of religions other than Christianity.
    A Muslim hardliner is obviously going to have problems with that. Making this little tempest in a teapot a 100% set up.
    New CBC show: “Gettin’ a Little Hostile in The Little Mosque On The Prairie.”

  38. @irwin daisy:
    Perhaps you’re bang-on. One of the opinions of H.L. Mencken that stuck in my mind is that liberalism is an elite philosophy designed for elites by elites…implying that it’s too much for the average bear to live up to.
    Consequently, mass liberalism is largely made up of people who try to live by norms that they’re not psychologically capable of handling. This may explain why liberals are so easy to pick on, and why they have a continual tendancy to become fanatical.
    Consider the feminist ideal, with the “ideal man” being someone who’s “secure enough in his masculinity” to live that way. By my lights, the only man who can live under such a regime is a martinet. (Note that such a fella might be eager to take up “his share” of the chores…in a gung-ho fashion, too. Many of the best chefs are martinets, also.)
    For a more normal man, the burdens of feminism would be more problematic, as many of you know. In addition to exhibiting the blame displacement we know well, the liberal man might also be waiting for a good rationale to put an end to the added burdens that he has to suffer under the feminist code. If Islam becomes kewl & multi-culti, then he has his rationale.

  39. I saw the news report on TV. She is, after all, a child. My nephew, a white Christian, once insisted that he have his school photo taken with his baseball cap. The teacher made a fuss, she did however later on agree.
    An 11 year old child shouldn’t be involved in adult racial conflicts, which is what this issue is all about. It’s about exercising power over a perceived enemy. I guess we’re one hell of a ways from world peace.

  40. Johnny Jesus, Islam is not a race.
    Why is so difficult to understand the concept of a UNIFORM. Everyone dresses with identical outfits. I took karate for years and honoured the ancient traditions and rituals of the sport. If you can’t respect those traditions and want to wear a head scarf or a sweatsuit don’t join. Once you weaken those ideals it is no longer the same and the traditions fade away.

  41. I find it interesting the religious requirement for modest attire that she will site to wear the Hijab doesn’t preclude her from wearing a Judoca (or whatever they call the judo uniform) in public.
    Set Up.

  42. “Judo is similar to wrestling. There’s a lot of grappling on the ground and hold-downs and so forth. Often you can’t see a particpant’s face or head because it’s underneath the opponent’s body.
    A loop of cloth could easily cause strangulation, and it might not be obvious when it’s happening. Also, a hand could get caught in it and get broken during ground work.”
    Posted by: rabbit
    The IJF ( International Judo Federation ) rules are absolutely sound and make perfect sense. A worn hijab puts both Judoka at risk. Injuries can occur in both Tachi-waza ( standing technique) and Ne-waza ( ground technique ) through normal practicing and competition . A loose garment like a hijab invites problems: Fingers can get caught, hijab could get snagged causing injuries and the obvious visual obscurement to name a few. An opponent would have to exercise caution and therefore compromise themselves, which in this case, would favor the hijab wearer. Silly. Stupid. Unnessary. It is a combat sport after all.
    From article: “The team, made up of girls between eight and 12 years old, is affiliated with a Muslim community centre in Montreal and five of its six girls wear the head scarf.”
    The sensei should know better than to train students wearing a hijab – if thats what he/she qualifies as. It would be interesting to know what rank he/she holds.
    “I think they should change the rules because there are lots of people in the world,” she said as she hugged her mom.
    “There is not just Christians, there are other religions. They should be fair to everybody.”
    By rejecting these established rules of safety, you make the sport unfair to everybody else and potentially put participants at risk. Religion has nothing to do with it,
    except for those who wish to promulgate.
    The basic principles of the Kudokan are: “Maximum Efficiency” and “Mutual Welfare and Benefit” which stresses the importance of respect, discpline, health and fitness among many other values.
    Credit to Dave Minuk for the decision. Yoku dekimashita!

  43. “Once you weaken those ideals it is no longer the same and the traditions fade away.”
    It’s western culture succumbing to Muslim demands. We’ve essentially handicapped our own culture through multiculturalism and they know how to abuse it. As this theme (passive jihad) plays out, it is our culture that seems predetermined to fade. Do you think politically motivated, supremacist Muslims have any intention to allow theirs to fade? Or to compromise?
    We are, by their own definition, dar al harb.

  44. Joe-
    Wearing a head covering in CHurch is out of reverence for being in the Presence of God. (Tabernacle) The men likewisw keep their heads bare. Those who still show reverence , or show it that way, still wear scarves.
    Whole thing sounds like a set-up. What was gained by the publicity, other than the ‘western’ culture feeling unsure of themselves. We don’t know who we are…so we can’t stand up for ourselves.

  45. And I should add, by their own texts – Kafir – meaning less than human.
    These actions are political.

  46. Their claims of ‘Islamophobia’, otherwise been proven to be a croc, is also untrue:
    Robert Spencer links to an FBI report on US “hate-motivated crimes” during 2006, showing the truth behind the constant claims of victimhood from Islamic advocacy groups: FBI hate crimes report for 2006: Jews suffer over 5 times more attacks than Muslims.
    Anti-Black 3,136
    Anti-Jewish 1,027
    Anti-White 1,008
    Anti-Male Homosexual 881
    Anti-Hispanic 770
    Anti-Female Homosexual 192
    Anti-Islamic 191

  47. Yes, indeed: creeping shariah and most assuredly not spontaneous. The family itself is most likely islamist or under pressure from islamists in the community. And good point about the media pre-alert setup.
    Normally, as a libertarian, I’d say, waiver, waiver! Have ’em sign a waiver which clearly spells out the dangers (being strangled) and perhaps the kafir advantage over the believer in the hijab. :).
    But this is Canada where contracts are fluid and determined to be fair or not usually by female judges.
    However, in the final analysis, must agree with several posters above re: uniforms and rules. Period.
    This is getting very very dreary isn’t it? It seems that not a single day passes without similar passive jihad encounters. If we can’t handle stuff this cut and dried, we’re toast.

  48. I don’t know If anybody else heard this but she was on rutherford (it was somebody else doing
    Dave’s show today) and it was said that she had previously competed not wearing her head covering

  49. The reason the Muslims are pushing the envelope is because we, Canadians, have already surrendered our collective identity. We surrendered when the RCMP adopted the use of the turban for Sihk constables. Once you’ve changed the rules and conformed to the minority then you have set yourself on the road to eroding your whole culture. How many of you rightwing, knuckle dragging, rednecks are considering moving to Australia?

  50. An 11 year-old girl who wants to wear a symbol of her religious faith is suddenly an agent of jihad? If this were true, Islam would have to be the most well-organized and homogeneous religion in the history of the planet. We all know that isn’t so. It’s at least as fractured as Christianity. There is no bearded “Dr. Jihad” somewhere secretly directing a seven-step invasion plan.
    The fact that a young Muslim girl is out participating in sports with the community at large should be taken as an encouraging sign. Better that than isolating herself in some religious ghetto.

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