Joseph Brean (in the National Post);
Pierre Trudeau, of course, inspires deep emotions, both positive and negative, and usually simplistically extreme. The haters tend to be rural Western right-wing ideologues who see in him everything they dislike about urban Eastern left-wingery. And so Trudeau-hatred is rarely more than a niche emotion, a mass-produced populist scorn that looks ever more unsophisticated the more unyielding it gets, like hating olives.
If hairy-fingered readers who can still recall the glory years of the NEP know someone in the city who can assist you with the necessary typing, the Post provides an email address – jbrean@nationalpost.com.
Keep your sentences short.
From the comments – “My opinion of Trudeau was formed at a very young age. I met Trudeau back around 1970 at Exibition Stadium in Toronto. I was a cub scout attending a jamboree and PET was the guest speaker. Afterwards a group of us were chosen to go backstage and meet the PM. We where waiting behind a curtain. He didnt know we where there. He call the crowd of cubs and scouts “the Hitler youth of tomorrow” and spit on the ground.”
Ouch.
“The haters tend to be rural Western right-wing ideologues who see in him everything they dislike about urban Eastern left-wingery.”
Uh, well, I’m an urban Easterner – third-generation Torontonian – and while I suppose someone might try to flatter me by calling me a “right-wing ideologue” I frankly look upon another Trudeau epoch as something slightly less desirable than a second outbreak of Spanish influenza.
Any other exceptions to this “rule”?
Joseph Brean is 27 years old and was born in 1980. He’s not old enough to know about which he talks.
Sent this to the writer:
I’m from Toronto, born and bred.
Your feelings about Trudeau are very much the stuff of fairy tales.
Trudeau is despised by most non-Liberals. The socialism, multiculturalism, metric system and forced bilingualism that he foisted on the country will never be forgiven. His attack against our natural, democratic values through his embarrassing associations with totalitarian dictators was even worse. His ghost still reigns supreme in the Liberal Party. The latest poll shows that his son is favoured by Liberals to lead the party at 40%.
“And so Trudeau-hatred is rarely more than a niche emotion, a mass-produced populist scorn that looks ever more unsophisticated the more unyielding it gets, like hating olives.”
No, its a visceral hatred of everything he stood for and his party stands for to this day. Perhaps before making idiot statements like the one above, you should, you know, do some investigating, check the facts, like real journalists (not the liberal variety) are supposed to do.
Liberal propaganda in the Post is most unwelcome.
This wacko is dilusionary the real haters are the liberal wackos from HOLYWEED
“The haters tend to be rural Western right-wing”
Whenever you see the term “haters” used by a left wing apologist, you can be assured you are being exposed to leftist bigotry of the first order being substituted for realities.
I do not “hate” PET…as a former sovereign citizen of a once free Canadian confederal state, his actions and ideals disgusted and alarm me but what I really “hate” is the media propagandists who sold him as a national messiah when in fact his policies were the most divisive we have ever seen and his constitutional meddling has kept the nation and its society factionalized and in court ever since.
The thing to “hate” is not PET…one cannote :hate” a wolf for behavong like a predator….we knew what he was when he came to the federal political arena…. but the bigoted media elite propagandists who sell PET’s national factionalism as a utopian legacy, and it’s creator as the father of this utopia, are to be loathed.
That type of philistine political deception and media sophistry is to be hated as intensely as possible if you want a free and unified nation instead of warring factions in a failed Trudeaupian federal soviet state.
Further vindication of my decision to cancel my subscription to the Post a couple of years ago. When you almost constantly disagree with the view of the paper you may as well call it quits. It is healthier for te soul.
There are many, many sources of information available that make more sense than the current ‘national’ newspapers.
It is beyond me how any of then can be classified as right-wing. Compared to what?
CRB
“Joseph Brean is 27 years old and was born in 1980. He’s not old enough to know about which he talks.”
BINGO!! I notice this to be a common thread in all the Trudeaupian myth spinners of late….Little Trudeaupian quislings indoctrinated with revisionist pap and set loose on us like an army of the undead.
Unless you lived and worked (payed taxes) under PET’s debt and taxation spiral, infaltion and regional economic tyranny, YOU GOT NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT!!
The only good thing this detestable communist did was die on my birthday, best present I ever got just 30 years to late, What this egomaniac cost this fine country. our children and grand children will pay for forever. They should have thrown him to the bottom of that mine in Kirkland lake and piled Torontos garbage on him, that is what that bastard deserved.
My submission:
Pierre Trudeau. He like Lenin. He like Stalin. He like Castro. He no like simple people. He no like all freedom in the US. Think it bad, bad. They all EEEvil dicTAYtors. Not like Stalin, Lenin, Castro. They had best intentions, not like EEEvil Americans. Let people decide for themselves. He got better ideas. He control markets. He control thoughts of little Canadians. Teach them what is right. Conservatives EEEvil. Conservatives rAAAAAAcist. He work closely with media. Tell them what is truth. They eat like dogs given table scraps. They gladly be propaganda dupes. UUUUUUUUUseful idiots. They happy just to touch cloak of international socialist master while he go ride around Montreal in Nazi uniform. Ha Ha. British royalty do same. Big deal. Hate Jews anyway. Right? Right, Pierre? Pierre?
Love Doug’s comment.
It wasn’t enough for PET to ruin this country, ruin the RCMP, ruin the military but now his spawn is trying to follow in his tracks. Heaven help us.
My submission:
Your rewrite of Canadian political history, which I personally experienced and you did not, is, to be frank, a pure revisionist propaganda.
You denounce half the country for detesting the man who impoverished and repressed them.
You degrade your fellow citizens who detested this treatment.
You mock them for their justified loathing of a federal regime and its leader who purposely isolated them from power and attempted to steal their resouce wealth with legislative chicanery and unconstitutional jingoistic justifications.
The man that many of your fellow Canadians hate for his political and economic repression, fittingly, had Fidel Castro as his pall bearer and family confidant.
Those of us who lost every thing in the NEP know there is a good reason why despots would become PET’s life long friends.
I was born on June 25th 1968, the day Trudeau won his first election as PM. (Interesting note, it was 25 years later to the day that Kim Campbell became PM). I remember that every single budget the Liberals/NDP (they were in cahoots big time in the 1970’s) brought in raised taxes and increased the debt. Jack Layton often refers to how great the era from 1963 to 1984 was for socialism in Canada. Of course, Taliban Jack, like all Liberal/NDPer’s, chooses to ignore the consecutive years of deficits, the sky rocketing taxes, 24% interest rates, falling dollar value, 12% unemployment rate and 10-12% annual inflation rate that PET and his cronies brought to Canada. Why Brian Mulroney, or anyone else for that matter, would want to take over a government in that deplorable state is beyond me.
I guess I am one of those PET haters.
Have to go, the cows need feedin’ and the tractor has a flat. Later goin’ ta put on the Sunday best and take the pick up to town for the church supper.
At least the little turd’s comments were sandwiched between two excellent columns by George Jonas and Conrad Black. Black’s last paragraph is spot on, other than the reference to Dion.
So my opinions of Trudeau are “simplistically extreme.”
But his (cliched, stereotypical, one-sentence) opinion of my options _isn’t_.
I KNEW Brean had to be a young twit, as others have said, totally indoctrinated by lib-left pablum-propaganda.
Now they’re writing for our national newspapers. Help! SOS! Houston, we have a problem! What next! The sky is falling!
‘Good thing the blogosphere came along: the thinking person’s media. Joseph Brean had better get a life soon or he might have to find himself a new job.
Now THAT was an interesting article from the MSM.
Mr. Mulroney has become a pantomime villain. Anyone who fails to boo him with sufficient vigour –or worse, defends him — risks looking like a killjoy.
All fun originates from voting Liberal. If you vote otherwise you are stopping all the fun we could have had.
One of the best ways to judge a man is by the company he keeps. Seeing who the mourners at his funeral were tells you everything you need to know about Trudeau. As a 42 year old I was becoming politically aware during his time as PM and I hate him with every fiber of my being. I an sure that if he thought he could get away with it we really would have been the Soviet Republic of Kanuckistan
I would send him a note from another anti-PET Torontonian, but I don’t speak Mock Tibetan. Still, maybe Rosie O’Donnell can help me out? I’ll have to go to her blog and ask.
From WLWR: Whenever you see the term “haters”…
The “haters” term was created/adopted by the left to insert an innocent-sounding word into the popular youth vernacular.
Anyone that does not agree with current mainstream thought and dares to pursue an issue is branded a “hater”. See also the definition of “Zeitgeist”.
I will now take off my tinfoil hat.
Jeancula*: Le hatred is visceral. Behold the dead.
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“But in the personal sense, Chretien-hatred is usually an insipid, humourless, partisan emotion that is best left to its top promoter, Paul Martin.(ibid)
Jeancula*: Le hatred is visceral. Behold the dead.
http://www.lecornichon.qc.ca/galeries_1/polcan/000067-jean_chretien.jpg
*Not by AdScam Paul Martin., Jr.
“Joseph Brean is 27 years old and was born in 1980,etc”.
Give Brean and his generation some slack, they haven’t yet reached the age of thinking past the leftist papp they learned in our educational system or “J” school.
I think it’s dangerous to idolize any politician. What I see time and time again is that those who like Trudeau don’t just admire him, they idolize him.
He is their “rock star” and because of that they look right past his numerous faults.
Trudeau hatred is not a niche emotion as this writer states. It’s an emotion by those who are smart enough not to idolize Trudeau, and hence can intelligently assess the worth (and lack thereof) of his policies and attitudes.
irwin daisy covered alot of pet’s crap. the man was a silver spoon socialist who thought we were to ignorant to do without him.
I find it very interesting that people in Canada who dislike Trudeau(I personally don’t dislike him, I violently DESPISE that son of a bitch)sound like people in respressive ditactorships. Coincidence? Its kinda sounds like Cubans or Russians, or Hungarians as they talk of their monstor dictators. But he got his payback-he got to bury his own son.
Horny Toad
I guess our eager young space cadet writer didn’t hear that many Albertan’s lost their houses because of what Marc LaLonde admitted was an attack of Alberta’s growing power.
We’re not sophisticated enough to understand Trudeau’s friendship with the murdering communist dictator Castro.
The subtlety of riding around Montreal with a Nazi helmet escape us hairy knuckled rubes.
We must have misunderstood the symbology of Trudeau giving us the finger in BC.
I have a suggestion for what Mr. Brean can do with his olives.
PT was a brilliant speaker who intimidated people on both the right and left to such an extent than all He ever had thrown his way was softballs.
This unsophisticated, rural, Western, right-wing idealogue has at least one thing going in his favor. If the power goes out for two weeks in January I and my family will do *just fine* thanks to a store of non-perishable food, water, firewood, and fuel for a generator. I’m betting that Mr. Brean would be screaming for the army to come rescue him after day two of a power failure, said rescue being complicated by the fact that it was his hero who gutted the army in the first place.
Unsophisticated is better.
“But he got his payback-he got to bury his own son.”
Sorry, HT, can’t agree with you on that. I wouldn’t wish that on any parent, not even PET as much as I despise him. I also don’t like the idea of the child paying for the sins of the father.
I dislike Trudeau. I’m not rural. I’m not Western. I am Eastern urban. Yet I’m right-wing. I’m an ideologue too. It means I have ideas. Ideas of my own. Just not those of St. Pierre. My own. Canadian values. Conservative values. Populist? Maybe. Unsophisticated? Your opinion.
Oh, I do like olives. Both black and green. See? I’m cosmopolitan. But Trudeau is the pits.
The cult of Trudeau still lives on strong.
Frankly piss ants like Brean are a dime a dozen, and they are quite willfully ignorant to the adverse effect Trudeau and his government had on national unity and the nation’s (particlarly Alberta’s) economy.
Much of this is due to our educational system and our media outlets, who omit convenient fatcs about Trudeau’s dalliances with dictators, separatism and anti-semitism, and instead place Trudeau and his disciples upon high, demonizing all those who care to challenge the national orthodoxy.
We can sit here and moan and complain about guys like Brean, but until those on the right and the West who have the money and the resources begin to counter this propoganda with our own books, documentaries and the like on the real lgacy of Trudeau, then we have no one to blame for the Joseph Breams of the world but ourselves.
pierre the Pig.
I proudly admit to being one of his Haters, not something I dwell on or think much about but never the less, one of them. His legacy, the charter of rights, constitution and NEP keep me in that category. The charter, one of the most undemocratic documents ever written, if you still believe that democracy means the majority. The constitution, nothing more than the Quebec and legal full employment act. NEP, theft of money for the sake of the eastern electorate. Yes, I’m a Hater.
When I look at the country we have today, whining dependent and wanting, it keeps me a hater. What happened to that Canadian cando attitude, that there’s nothing I can’t do spirit. You took it you Bastard. Now everything I do I do for myself, not the legion of dependents this nation has hatched.
Comments like this thread are an example of an out of touch MSM that insists on painting Harper and Tories as unpopular yahoos who, it turns out, are just as corrupt as the Liberals. Look at the slew of anti-Tory articles. The fantasy world of what Trudeau did for (to) us feeds into that arrogant and bigotted viewpoint.
The truth is something else entirely different; Canadians have decisive and honest leadership, despite the nonsense perpetrated by Dion and company. The reality is that Canadians are not in love with Harper, but have every intention of re-electing him, likely a majority if the left continues its fantasies of power and fantasies of policy.
The second coming of Trudeau will not change this. He will suffer the same fate as Dion – held up as a caricature of the just society; until either of them open their mouths and reveal how out of touch and uninformed they really are.
Get ready for a MSM love in if Liberals do approximately right thing, get rid of Dion, and then do precisely the wrong thing and coronate little Trudeau.
and that doesn’t make YOU an urban Left-wing ideologue?
That’s the difference between left and right these days (as Dennis Prager says) the right thinks the LEFT is wrong, but the LEFT thinks conservatives are EVIL.
The man is a moron. This from a city dwelling Easterner.
PT was a brilliant speaker…
I met him a few times in downtown Montreal (we worked in the same building). He was munchkin-sized but exuded a presence and confidence that couldn’t be ignored. He had “charisma”.
The first time I ran into him I didn’t realize who he was until I got off the elevator.
Sent to Mr. Brean
Mr. Brean:
It is obvious you simply do not have the necessary background to write for a national publication. There is much more to Trudeau dislike than “niche emotion”.
On several occasions Mr. Trudeau ran on one platform, and then after the election, adopted policies he had publically scorned. He was a liar.
Mr. Trudeau devastated our military. He fed and nurtured the ugly anti-Americanism which infects our public discourse to this day.
He rammed multiculturalism, French language and the metric system down our throats – all of which have been discredited in recent years – though I suspect your socialist self will sneer at my assertion and I don’t have the time to educate you. Mr. Trudeau initiated the economic policy of massive deficits which he later admitted was done in ignorance of the eventual consequences. He managed to dodge responsibility for his pro-Nazi, socialist youth and then inflicted the Young Offenders Act on our justice system.
Mr. Trudeau is a classic case of a savant – idiot. He appeared intelligent but was really a moron by every measure that can be applied to his very sorry record. History will not treat him kindly.
I reckon, if a contest were held, to determine who despised Truedope the most the outcome would be a ten million way tie for first.
There a still many yet to get off that elevator and realize who that little commie rat truly was.
My opinion of Trudeau was formed at a very young age. I met Trudeau back around 1970 at Exibition Stadium in Toronto. I was a cub scout attending a jamboree and PET was the guest speaker. Afterwards a group of us were chosen to go backstage and meet the PM. We where waiting behind a curtain. He didnt know we where there. He call the crowd of cubs and scouts “the Hitler youth of tomorrow” and spit on the ground.
suburban,
Your message to that little Post twit was so good that I copied and sent again. It is the message he needs to read. It is spot on.
In my opinion PET was the worst Prime Minister Canada has ever had. He was personable and well liked which speaks to the majorities’ propensity to choose form over substance. He would however have been more at home at the time in the NDP party but chose the Liberals because he thought he would have a better chance of winning. Together he and his NDP enablers nearly bankrupted Canada during his rein. He is largely responsible for the high tax burdens that Canadians are currently saddled with. So if my current resentment is labelled as hatred by a younger generation then I will wear that label proudly but by no means should anyone ever think it is not deserved.
trent @ 11:13. Thank you. I’m smiling and just stopping to tip my hat to you. You sound—cows, tractor, and church—like a “salt of the earth” type: the very type Trudeau disdained and punished.
Bless you. (I have, God forgive me, different thoughts about the Trudeaus.)
Sorry, the time was 11:16.
If a anyone west of the Manitoba border mocked the Dali Lama as this little deformity of a columnist did, there would be a human rights tribunal forming a posse as I tap this out.
The cows and church comments were meant to be satirical.
Good on you, Kate, for putting this disgusting Brean article up for review. When I read it yesterday, I was hoping that someone would take it on.
The main aspect of this sophomoric onanism, that isn’t getting much play on this thread, is his suggestion that of all hatred directed at former Prime Ministers, only hatred of Mulroney is pure and universal: “But Canadians can agree on Brian Mulroney. Not only does everyone seem to hate him, but they enjoy hating him, assume everyone else hates him, too…” It was in this context that he made his condescending remarks about we folk who don’t care for turdeau.
The Mulroney administration made some bad decisions, and had its share of problems with corrupt behaviour. But at least it was not the same deep, rotten, corruption of values and spirit that characterized the turdeau era. There’s a reason why negative feelings about Mulroney are best described as “contempt”, while those about turdeau are visceral abhorrence. And it’s clear from this thread that these sentiments are felt far beyond the rural west. A “niche emotion” – give me a break!
In the same issue of the Post, yesterday, they were inviting readers to provide a description of Canada, in six words or less. Mine would be:
“Canada: born free; chained by Trudeau”
One more thing, This little Brean twit, would be more than surprised to know how many olive haters there are in Easter Canada.
Trudeau is sacred only in the halls of the CBC and the elitist universities that specialize in the Liberal Arts and Journalism.
Even the dopiest of Canadians (Mr. Brean notwithstanding) have finally figured out and are paying the price and suffering because of the nightmare reign of Pierre E Trudeau.
Yeah, i thought Trudeau was pretty cool once upon a time – but that was when “cool” was my number one adjective. Experience, education and maturity have an effect on a person, even a degenerate easterner like me.
Trudeau embodied, and effected, some of the worst traits of modern Canada.
Trudeau was a diletente who could not hold down a job. His good fortune, and Canada’s misfortune, was that he was born wealthy and therefore did not have to work for a living.
John West at November 18, 2007 1:03 PM
There a still many yet to get off that elevator and realize who that little commie rat truly was.
Attacks on the munchkin aside, Harper appears to be similar charismatically, but in a different way. Less flash and more substance. Solid and confident without needing to grandstand, I like that.
The fact that he’s not a PM from Quebec probably secretly pleases a lot of Quebecers.