CPAC Viewers And Opposition Members

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From the comments;

CPAC is right this moment carrying the [Canadian Wheat Board] debate in The House on this subject.
In fact Carol Skelton,MP from Saskatchewan suggested that the opposition members go to Small Dead Animals blog and search out the comments.
She made special mention of Larry Webber[sic].

For ease of navigation, click here for a direct link to that discussion.
While you’re here, I recommend you read this one as well, regarding a CWB statement before the Federal court that “the Board is accountable only to Parliament”.

66 Replies to “CPAC Viewers And Opposition Members”

  2. Carol Skelton should do her homework and not refer to special interest groups such as right wing bloggers.
    A feather in Kate’s cap but revealing as how out of touch our politicians really are!

  3. Then, maybe you should review the definition of “special interest group”. Unlike the highly paid bureaucrats of the CWB, or political extensions of the NDP (National Farmer’s Union), this blog does not have a “special interest” beyond the author belonging to a family with members still farming in Saskatchewan.
    Considering there is more professional expertise contained in the comments here (from both sides of the debate) than in any mainstream media source I’ve found, I’d be interested in who you do consider to be a reliable expert on the topic?
    Jack Layton? Dion? Ralphie Goodale?

  4. Agricultural Producers Association of Saskatchewan *
    David Brown, Vice President
    I sure hope that’s not the same David Brown…

  5. I know this is off topic but Angry has done some background on the Anti Bob Rae’s wife Jewish thing and it frankly turns my stomach,
    I pity this Liberal candidate who comes knocking on my door

  6. I know this is off topic but Angry has done some background on the Anti Bob Rae’s wife Jewish thing and it frankly turns my stomach,
    I pity the Liberal candidate who comes knocking on my door!
    Sorry for the Typo on my first post

  7. “I sure hope that’s not the same David Brown…”
    Doesn’t matter. I have yet to come upon a farm group that matches the general opinions of me or my neighbours. Almost noone in my area belongs to any of them.

  8. WOW the liberanos on CPAC right now sure are squirming about this CWB stuff. Its time to take the scum down another peg, lift the lid off of the CWB and see how much the criminals are hiding in there.

  9. Also watching CPAC.
    Interesting to note that facts and data come from Conservative speakers, while irrational hypebole comes from the rest

  11. No matter who you vote for:
    CPAC today should be renamed after the comic strip: People unsure of the concept.
    I am not proud of Parliament today. If I hear any more whining about jobs in Winnipeg and Churchill I am gonna puke.
    Its about the farm! Why can’t anyone get that!!

  12. Congrats, Kate — but I still think Lorne Calvert’s clear demonstration that he didn’t have any idea of what SDA is was more amusing. 😉

  13. Kate’s sda makes CBC, CTV, G&M, Star, ect look amature by comparison.
    I have been a news hound all my life, The National, Mansbridge, Country Calendar, Karen Webb, Jim Reigh, Craig Oliver, Don Newman, Jim Travers, CTV Newsnet, Passionate eye, Ideas, Nature of Things, Frances Russel, ect. When it comes to the news, AS PRESENTED, NO SPIN, NO BIAS , .. NONE and NOBODY even comes close to Kate and smalldeadanimals.com
    I have read many, many blogs in the past, even the major media, and the bias is so obvious it is a joke. Example; Kyoto is a Hoax, pure and simple but the MSM keeps promoting it. How sick is that ??
    I did not know Larry Webber from a perverbial hole in the Farmers field, but after frank discussion on sda(impossible through the Media) I bet that we agree on MORE than we differ on.
    The MSM will ALWAYS slant MOST stories as a tradgedy that needs govmit to save the day. Yep, swoop in and reward failure, .. whether it is food production, crime, weather, law and order or whatever.
    The Media is an ass, always was. Ever since the Printing Press was invented in 1440. We all knew it but couldn’t express it. But no more, not in the Internet age.

  14. Maybe we should institute a Canadian Media Board, which controls how all reporting is marketed in Canada. No reporter is permitted to directly sell his or her work product directly to a publisher on penalty of jail – it must all be pooled. Then the proceeds are divided up. And averaged out.
    Whadya say there media guys? Sound like the kind of system you are yearning for?

  15. What I don’t understand is, as a Rancher here in Alberta(we used to raise grain but that didn’t pay) Where was my ballot? I still have shares in Agricore. I guess they only sent ballots out to pro CWB producers. No wonder they’re vote came out the way it did.

  16. AMEN Shaken ! How many of them would tolerate these restrictions,and for how long? I can hear the howling already.BTW,is there anyone more annoying than Wayne Easter? Well,maybe,but I certainly find him the most grating to listen to.

  18. “as a Rancher here in Alberta(we used to raise grain”
    Ballots went to persons who have sold grain on a permit book recently. Or should we vote on snow removal and allow anyone with a truck capable of hauling vote on whether union wages are correct?

  19. “I’d be interested in who you do consider to be a reliable expert on the topic?”
    Bugs Bunny has a handle on carrots.
    I hate rabbits.

  20. I saw some of the CPAC debate and was amazed that Winnipeg Liberal Anita Neville stated that 5 Cargill employees could do the work of 460 CWB employees and she is all for having farmers continue to pay for the 460, cause it’s good for Winnipeg.

  21. As we said when Chrétien put Ralph Goodale in charge of the Wheat Board. “At least it isn’t Wayne Easter.”

  22. shaken, they are controlled. It is called (AP) Associated Press, .. same for (CP)
    Google Associated Press green helmut.
    (AP) is a very, very powerful org, reporters would not even think of stepping out of bounds.

  23. “farmers continue to pay for the 460”
    That’s interesting. Its about the same ratio in the Parliamentary Press Gallery. Kate does the work of 360 members of the PPG.
    I think she’s entitled to some type of government assistance.

  24. From QP,just now:
    Dion:I look forward to debating this PM,on the environment
    PMSH:I look forward to a debate with this leader,as Lib.member from Etobicoke stated,the Libs failed on the environment,and the leader of this party(Libs)knows the environment,like Galliano knows accountability!
    ZING!Gotta love PMSH.

  25. I caught a bit of the debate, and the favourite moment of it by far was when Myron Thompson gets up and says, “I think the lack of choice for farmers is a charter issue.”
    BOOM

  26. I’ve been waiting for Reg Puff Daddy Alcock to enlighten us with some of his pearls of wisdom on the Wheat Board.
    Reg? Reg? Reg?

  27. The CWB ‘special interest’ groups can put any spin they want on the director election numbers they want, but there are still 4 out of ten farmers who want the CWB to take a hike. Actually the CWB has generated so much animosity and hatred against us farmers (a small, noisy group of radicals they called us) who at one time would have settled for a dual market, that I now want the CWB to be gonzo totally, zippo, tout fini.
    And when the CWB sales books are finally opened, it will be.

  28. ”this blog does not have a “special interest” beyond the author belonging to a family with members still farming in Saskatchewan”
    If farmers don’t constitute a special interest, I don’t know who does.

  29. Maryjane this blog covers many topics, including the political, and comments are open to one and all. To suggest that it’s “special interest” is nonsense. Perhaps you should drop around more often.

  30. “special interest groups such as right wing bloggers.”
    david brown
    A loose translation: “politicians should only listen to liberals who think like I do.” Seriously, who else but a so-called special interest group has an informed opinion on a topic like this?
    Ignorance may be bliss, but it is also brown.

  33. LOL!!! Is anyone else watching CTV Newsnet, and Dan Matheson making an ass out of himself with his pronunciation of “Pinochet”? It’s almost like a bad rerun of WKRP and Les Nessman saying “Chy-Chy Rodreegweez.”

  34. “This blog is the pulse of Canada!”
    Pulse crops are legumes belonging to the same plant family as alfalfa and sweet clover. They have the capacity to capture atmospheric nitrogen and transform it into useable plant nitrogen in the form of amino acids and proteins. This process is called “nitrogen fixation.”

  35. If only framers would stop referring to themselves as such and start calling themselves what they really are…agri-business entrepenuers.
    The CWB would cease to exist. Only victims need protection and assistance.

  36. The wheat board issue isn’t on the radar in the Maritimes. We guess bottom trawling isn’t an issue out there either. So much for a national press. We need to get together on this stuff. Blogs do that.

  39. Attaboy, Kate! (You are now an honorary GUY.
    Because you got *****…..uh……GONADS!) Your cheque is still in the mail. Haw! (I hesitate to call it a ‘christmas gift’- I don’t believe in the Tooth Fairy or the Easter Bunny, either. But still……….
    You have provided a FORUM- where information gets shared outside of the regular channels, (where even the trolls get to show where they are really coming from….and all of us, all of us faithfull ….uh…..!?!……are in your debt!)
    Remember that FARMER from the Praries, who flogged his farm and moved to Vancouver. A newspaper geek asked him: “How do you like the mountains?”
    He replied: “They are nice, but they sure hide the view!” Haw!

  40. On a quasi-serious note, what does it say about the state of our Media? In this thread we use WKRP in Cincinnati in context, the previous thread used two Monty Python sketches (Holy Grail & Parrot) in a general context for Castro.
    Both these comedies were parodies of all things related to established norms.
    I guess that answers my own question, our MSM has become it’s own parody.
    To quote from yet another pop culture moment ” Only in Canada EH?, Pity”

  41. Great articles on this issue and certainly got attention. Congratulations, Kate and all those contributers who helped to get the facts out!

  44. a quote from the above mentioned article:
    “From 1999-2003, AWB[Australian Wheat Board] executives allegedly authorized $222 million in bogus transport fees to a Jordanian trucking company, Alia Transport, that was partly owned by Saddam’s government. Payments to Saddam were illegal under U.N. sanctions.
    AWB allegedly inflated the cost of wheat it was charging to the oil-for-food program by as much as $50 per ton to cover the bogus transport fees, which the Iraqi Grain Board demanded as a condition of lucrative grain contracts.”…
    “In New York, U.N. spokesman Stephane Dujarric said files from the larger inquiry into oil-for-food “continue to be accessible and available to all judicial authorities investigating these allegations.”
    Has anybody looked to see if the CWB was in any way involved with the oil for food scandal?

  45. The only thing that most of the commenters dont understand is this;when we sell wheat and barley to the CWB ,we get a portion of what they sell it for.After about a year they pay any remaining to us on the sale but we cant find out what they sell it for.To put it in ordinary terms if you worked for a company and they didnt tell you how much that you would be paid but they would pay you a portion of your wage,then,if they made money selling their product,you would be paid more but only when you got your final cheque would you know how much and you couldnt find out how much they made on the product.

  46. Like any other company spike?
    When you sell your peas to cargill do they tell you how much they make on it? Do they for that matter detail every sale and price for their investors??

  47. Barcs
    Farmers aren’t forced to sell to Cargill, so cargill would have to offer market value and make the deal upfront for how much they would pay for the product.
    like normal, proper, business negotiations.
    just a question do you know anything about the wheat board Barcs? I suggest you do some reading
    you’ll see its totally different business arrangement than anything YOU have ever encountered UNLESS YOU are a Prairie Farmer.

  48. dubyadubya:
    The Wheat board may not be an issue in the Maritimes but you’d never guess the way Wayne Easter yells his guts out on the issue.
    It looks like ramping up for votes in the East where it counts for Liberals and to hell with the West where it doesn’t.
    Old Wayner and Ralphy should head for the Funny Farm and get the hell out of the wheat fields.

  49. I just wish one of you farmers would take this up as a human rights abuse/ charter challenge. This is an abuse of your human rights when a quebec or ontario farmer doesn’t have to sell to the wheat board but prarie farmers do. That is a far bigger abuse than some queer being hurt by sleeping through and missing his pride parade.

  50. Yuppers Jared. From Southwest corner of this land called Saskatchewan.
    Farming 800 acres in the context of a 7000 acre (family) ag business venture (farm). Oh yeah and finishing off a degree in Agriculture. Not to mention building business plans for my farm and my buddies transition from the dairy (supply management) system he recently left.
    Don’t get me wrong. I understand that the CWB is not the be all and end all. I am not stupid enough to believe the lefties who tell me I make bundles of money from it. But then again I am also not stupid enough to believe the righties who would have me believe that the CWB is the cause of all my problems and that I will make bundles more money if I would just end the monopoly (oh and by the way the CWB will adjust and be even better for me than it is now in a dual market ‘that will never exist’).
    I assure you I deal more with and even with my meager knowledge I understand more about the organization than most of the ‘ideological experts’ around here.
    Further I understand and appreciate (from the $300,000 of specialty crops I sell every year just how much work marketing can be. The other 1/2 of my production goes through non board feed markets, CWB pool accounts and various CWB marketing options.
    I am, though my research in school and on the farm, convinced that the monies earned from my board grains would not change much under a free market system (nor would the average bulk of farms). What would change is the amount of work I would need to put into the marketing. Work that now goes into off farm jobs, on-farm improvements and hobbies.
    bartinsky – Charter of rights? does it guarantee free market?? (watch out health care.. and all of government for that matter)

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