After taking scrupulous care not to mention that the overwhelming majority of the rioters in France are disaffected Muslim youth, this opportunity to portray them as victims was too good to miss;
But more than 300 cars were torched across the country and 119 people arrested overnight. In the south, an attacker threw two firebombs into a mosque during Friday prayers, causing minor damage.
There are no other details given – but while specifically mentioning what is almost certainly an abberation in the targetting of attacks (where only “white” cars are being torched), there seems no recognition that an attack on a mosque is more likely to be a response to – not a characteristic of – the riots.
More coverage at Belmont Club, including evidence of censorship by a French press concerned with protecting the political status quo. Wretchard closes with this analysis of the French demographic from Mark Steyn;
Now go back to that bland statistic you hear a lot these days: �about 10 per cent of France�s population is Muslim�. Give or take a million here, a million there, that�s broadly correct, as far as it goes. But the population spread isn�t even. And when it comes to those living in France aged 20 and under, about 30 per cent are said to be Muslim and in the major urban centres about 45 per cent. If it came down to street-by- street fighting, as Michel Gurfinkiel, the editor of Valeurs Actuelles, points out, �the combatant ratio in any ethnic war may thus be one to one� � already, right now, in 2005. It is not necessary, incidentally, for Islam to become a statistical majority in order to function as one. At the height of its power in the 8th century, the �Islamic world� stretched from Spain to India, yet its population was only minority Muslim. Nonetheless, by 2010, more elderly white Catholic ethnic frogs will have croaked and more fit healthy Muslim youths will be hitting the streets. One day they�ll even be on the beach at St Trop, and if you and your infidel whore happen to be lying there wearing nothing but two coats of Ambre Solaire when they show up, you better hope that the BBC and CNN are right about there being no religio-ethno-cultural component to their �grievances�.
See Ed Morrissey, too.
Michael Coren seems to have discovered the word “neo-con” in this mornings column:
http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Coren_Michael/2005/11/12/1303393.html
He’s “disgusted” by the likes of Steyn for seeing the riots as being Islamist-driven.
There was a Muslim apologist on either Hannity and
Colmes or O’Reilly last night and he showed his
complete bias and stupidity. When asked if Islam
had anything to do with the riots in France, he
said it wasn’t religious, it was because of poverty
and frustration. Then he said that a Molotov Cocktail was tossed into a mosque somewhere in
France and that would really make the rioters mad.
They’re out there folks, and some of them even
are asked to talk nonsense on TV.
Want some cheap entertainment?
When an apologist/appeaser says “the riots are driven by a lack of economic opportunity, not Islam” ask him/her this question:
If socilaism and collectivism is the answer to all the ills in the world, why did this happen in socialist (perfection of) France? Could it be that the American economic/social model is acutally better? Giving people more opportunity and personal liberty to improve their lives both economically and socially?
Watch the steam come out their ears.
The Lefties want it both ways. Don’t forget the Latin word for left is SINISTER.
What’s happening in France and other European countries today must logically be seen as terrorism. What other logically provable description could there be? Europe is turning into another Middle East.
An interesting article in the LA Times, Nov. 12, “A Mutual Suspicion Grows in Denmark”:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-denmark12nov12,0,5910116.story?track=tothtml
Excerpts:
‘Liberal freedom-of-speech laws are being challenged by Hizb ut-Tahrir, an extremist Islamic organization recruiting Muslims to battle coalition forces in Iraq that include 530 Danish troops [those Danish war mongers!]. In a society that prides itself on racial parity, voters have elevated the xenophobic Danish People’s Party from the fringes to the country’s third most powerful political bloc…
…Fadi Abdul Latif, the spokesman for Hizb ut-Tahrir in Denmark, accused conservatives of changing the meaning of integration. Whereas it once meant attending Danish schools and speaking the national language, he charged, now it forces Muslims into accepting European values on issues including sexuality and religion.
“…When others want to force their values on Muslims, we must reject this. We neither want to assimilate nor isolate. We want to keep our identity and carry our message of Islam to others. But Europe is using the climate of war and terrorism to force assimilation.”
Hizb ut-Tahrir seeks to establish an Islamic caliphate and expel Western influences from Muslim nations. Outlawed in Sweden and Germany, the group faces a possible ban in Britain after the London transit bombings in July…
“Twenty-five percent of all children in Copenhagen and more than 10% of all children in Denmark are being born to non-Danish mothers. What is happening is a gradual scooping out of the Danish population,” Mogens Camre, a member of the Danish People’s Party and the European Parliament, said last year…’
Then there is this from the inimitable John Ibbitson’s Globe column, “Open arms help douse flames of alienation” (November 9; full text not online):
“But since it doesn’t mean much of anything to be Canadian, thank the Lord,…”
Mark
Ottawa
Were not several churches burnt down in the last two (2) weeks or so in France? And a mosque is slightly damaged and it’s big news. This is an example of why I increasingly rely on blogs such as this for my news, free of PC consorship.
It’s a Good thing blogs exist…
Interesting read in the Edmonton Journal today: “Public figures in Netherlands targets of Islamic extremists – Free speech becoming a matter of life and death”.
Article was from The Washington Post, location listed below but registration is required.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/10/AR2005111002046.html
A Cupla Tidbits the Honest (Bwahahahahahahaha), Hard-Working MSM missed:
Hey like, no rush, but is that fatwa thing working yet?
The riots in France are increasing a bit, and at the worst possible moment. Police officers unhappy with the way they are being treated by French MSM and the government cabinet (who make it clear that the treatment of filthy animals takes precedent over the people in the front lines fighting this scum) are making their feelings known and the Seine Saint Denis section of France’s largest police union has announced that its men will be on minimum duty until further notice.
City center hit by riots:
Aside from the nighttime incidents at the Place de la R�publique in Paris last weekend, the riots have not hit a major city center, until late this afternoon. The Lyon city center was rocked twice by rioting youths who faced down police at the Place Bellecour on 2 occasions late this afternoon.
Riot police launched tear gas on the rioters who threw stones and garbage cans. Shops closed up and the Lyon Book Fair ceased operations.
Who needs cops anyway? That fatwa will surely kick in real soon now:
Just when we need these guys the most, the French government — as hamfisted and maladroit as ever — insults and then abandons them. Now they are just plain fed up. France’s leading police union speaks out against the growing media and government cabinet abuse of French law enforcement while it deals with urban guerilla activity and the premices of a civil war.
The Riots in Facts and Figures; and the Timeline:
Here is the (regularly updated) timeline of France’s riots in the cit�s, as well as the unpleasantness in facts and figures and the international coverage thereof��
http://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/
(Straight from Paristine with lotsa great links)
Read the whole thing: find the word “Muslim” near the end of the article. The burning & etc. is downplayed by the sentence construction/wordchoice/order, & etc. Political correctness on display. >>>
Polish Chapel in France Destroyed
Posted by Bon mots
On 11/12/2005 2:46:44 PM PST
Gazeta Wyborcza (Choice Gazette – Poland) ^ | November 12, 2005 | PAP
Rocks and bottles were thrown at a Polish chapel in Houdain in the north of France shattering stained glass and destroying the doors of the holy place. There is destruction, according to the Vicar of the local representative of the Polish Catholic mission, however nothing was stolen (there was no robbery). The Vicar, Tomasz (Thomas) Tobyf told PAP (Polish Press Agency) that the attack took place Thursday night or early Friday morning. The attackers during the attack burned and ruined the chapel itself as well as smashing stained glass with bottles and rocks. Next, they broke into the chapel and…
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1520949/posts
Comic relief
Heaven Running out of virgins .. apply now
International analysis of riots all over the map
…The eleven nights of rioting to date, with more than 5,000 vehicles destroyed by fire and more than 1,000 arrests, demonstrated that the French model of integration had failed, Austrian newspapers reported…
…”The problem is not that nothing is done for the people in the (French) suburbs,” where the riots have taken place on a nightly basis since October 27, wrote liberal daily Rzeczpospolita. “On the contrary, too much is done for them — too much except for one thing: they are not allowed to do anything for themselves,” wrote the newspaper in an editorial…
…”What else can the French government do, except send in the army against the young rioters,” asked Czech left-wing newspaper Pravo. “However, the armed men should be followed by employment and education specialists with, of course, bags of money because historic mistakes must be paid for.”…
…”It may have implications like the May 1968 student revolt in France,” he said, adding that Al-Jazeera was preparing a special documentary “to try to answer the question: Why did this happen? Was it about grievances or just riots?”…
…In China, where national television has broadcast daily coverage of the vandalism, newspapers illustrated the problems facing Chinese merchants in France…
http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=25&story_id=25145
As Immigration Canada looks to increase the population of our rapidly aging population, there are leesons from France on how to do it wrong.
since when does a country need immigration because of an aging population? Do I need to go to Europe and show them how to make babies?
Where Islam goes trouble follows. With the exception of Northern Ireland I think just about every conflict on the face of the earth has some Islamic involvment.
A sports analogy would be the guy (golfer, car racer, hockey player, etc.) who wins more championships, tournaments, awards, records and is always challenged by the skeptics as being ‘lucky’. “It was a fluke” – “the competition was lousy that year” – blah,blah,blah. After a while you gotta say – no, this is for real. This person isn’t just lucky.
It’s the same with Islam. After a while you gotta say – no, this isn’t a coincidence. I don’t care how many ‘circumstances’ force their involvment in violent acts of confrontation. Sooner or later you have to believe there is something fundamentally wrong with the Islamic religion.
Doesn’t seem like rocket science to me…
The product of socialist immigration policies, period.
What policies do you suggest Bruce?
A country (maybe Canada) needs immigration because of an aging population to increase the size of available workers at all levels.
I would suggest cleaning the system first. For myself, I would feel a major problem is the immigration system itself…the lengthy appeals process, when a person is already in Canada.
Another problem with the immigration system is their seeming inability to track people.
We can track every cow in this country right to the stall where it was born. A simple solution to tracking our suspect immigrants then, is to issue them their very own cow to care for. This will also assist the cattle producers in culling their older cattle.( Not my idea. I read it some place else.)
Canada was built on immigration, as almost all of us can trace their genealogy to immigrating ancestors, and immigration is still an important ongoing process.
Maybe things are different in France as it has been invaded so many times,people tend to confuse immigration and invasion and to not like either of them.
I have to agree with Brian ….
Consider, there are many countries with people who are down-trodden, abused and poor … millions of them .. they aren’t doing terrorism.
South America? China, India? Newfoundland to name just a few.
There has to be something in the Islamic psyche that simply makes them ultra violent and hateful.
There isn’t much happening in the Irish conficts anymore, but the muzzies have been at it for hundreds of years and WILL NEVER STOP UNTIL WE STOP THEM. We means the USA because the rest of the western world has adopted socialist pacifice itdiotic nihilist values … but I suppose that send the “right message” .. you know .. the one that says “come kill us because we are rich, guilty and stupid”.
get some comic relief at Duke’s Blog
Just right click and select “open in new window”
We all need to smile a bit more. No?
For those who are wondering what the problem with Islam might be, I recommend “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades” by Robert Spencer.
Steve, I suggest an end to the assinine refugee system for a start and immigration applicants would have to have a job to go to in their field of training, be functional in the english or french languages and not expect that their parents/grandparents will get in automatically to further burden the health care system that the Lie-beral PMPM crippled when Finance Minister, then is now trying to claim he’s going save.
Bruce, you have made very good points. I would support that except for the prohibition on elders, who as anyone who has them here can usually say, they had to the quality of life for families.
Steve, I’m not calling for a prohibition on elder’s as immigrants, but that their families must support them as a condition of living here. This support must include health care costs.
Allowing elderly immigrants should be curtailed until the Canadian health care system has been revamped to allow them to purchase private health care insurance and the medical centers to provide it.
“[S]ince when does a country need immigration because of an aging population?”
The fact is, the birthrate in Canada has gone through the floor and the average age of the population is getting older and older.
Canadians seem to have decided to get out of the baby-making business – none more so than the residents of Qu�bec. Well, bully for them!
But if there are no younger tax-generators coming up behind our current retirement-home bound population, it’s going to be awfully difficult to continue funding all those lovely social welfare programmes that we consider such a “sacred trust.”
So Plan B it is: bring in the immigrants.
My point exactly Kate and JJM those sacred social welfare programs are long overdue for adjustments.
…I would support that except for the prohibition on elders, who as anyone who has them here can usually say, they had to the quality of life for families…
I’m not quite sure how some of those elders are enhancing the quality of their childrens lives when they’re living in subsidized seniors housing here in Canada while their children have returned to their home country to work.
Paris riots coming to America. . . What is the plight of America’s black males? Consider this.
I write the following because Tom Birdsong, Assistant Managing Editor, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, on Wednesday, November 9, 2005, said, �No one is going to write about your family�s plight.� Thereafter, Mrs. Estelle B. Richman�s staff (Commonwealth of Pennsylvania�s Secretary of Welfare) became very rude and indifferent to our emergency situation. In fact, Ms. Richman�s chief of staff, Linda Hicks no longer accepted our calls. Christian Bowser actually laughed about our situation. Inez Titus, became even more stubborn with her unlawful position. The Executive Director for Western Pennsylvania Department of Welfare, Tim Cornell (Mrs. Titus� supervisor) has yet to return any of our calls.
Nonetheless, a man was shot to death in a cinema lobby shootout after watching gangsta rapper 50 cent�s movie �Get Rich or Die Tryin�,� prompting the Loews Cineplex at the Waterfront in West Homestead (just east of Pittsburgh) to stop showing the film. I was there with my family (common-law wife and three minor children). That is, although determined eligible, my family has again been denied the Low Income Heating Assistance Program (�LIHEAP�) federal entitlement for the fourth or fifth straight year. Without heat during the cold winter months a theater provides temporary shelter (allowing my family opportunity to give relatives �a break� from our nightly sleep-overs).
What happened at the Waterfront? Shelton Flowers, 30, of Wilkinsburg, Pennsylvania, was shot three times and died later at a local hospital. Flowers had just watched the movie and got into a confrontation with three men in the bathroom. A fight ensued and spilled out into the concessions area, where Flowers was shot. Immediately, Loews Cineplex pulled the movie as a precaution. The R-rated movie is based on Curtis �50-cent� Jackson�s own life which includes drug dealing, time in prison, and getting shot nine times. Paramount Pictures, a unit of Viacom, Inc., removed billboards for the movie near some inner-city schools after Los Angeles area community leaders complained last month.
Wilkinsburg, just east of Pittsburgh, is a town that was once synonymous with white supremacy. It is a town that had a mere 502 black residents in 1950 when its population hit 31,000, and only 224 more black residents 10 years later. But, over the next few decades, almost like a prophecy, the black population rose to 90 percent. That is, just a little more than 200 years ago Andrew Levi Levy, Sr. named the town �Africa.�
The borough grew from Levy�s land and other plots (such as the curiously named �Pious Purchase,� and others called Rippeyville, McNairsville and Sterrett Township). It was incorporated some 118 years ago and given the name Wilkinsburg after Judge William Wilkins, the Secretary of War under President John Tyler. Nonetheless, many of its current residents still believe Wilkinsburg is no different today than it was in the 1920’s when hooded knights of the Ku Klux Klan cavorted. They say whites still control the town with black �puppets� politicians.
While other cities the size of Pittsburgh has seen a steady growth in gun crime, our gun violence trajectory appears to have exploded. Community activists, politicians and crime experts all have brainstorm strategies for stemming violence. The residents here had hoped for a comprehensive plan of action that would have addressed part of the root causes that lead our neighbors to take up guns. But, the answer given is more of the same. The local politicians have taken a page from the George W. Bush handbook (Madison Avenue to sell our reputation).
We have our three rivers, a beautiful skyline, a romantic culture district, a few of the country�s best hospitals, excellent universities, and the like. But, there’s never anything mentioned about our blighted downtown business district, the high unemployment rate of black males, increased gun violence, and the growth of conservative republican complacency.
It’s no secret any more that economic conditions for blacks in Pittsburgh and its surrounding communities is precarious. Black residents rank low compared to the national average of income, employment, and education. We have chronic problems of gang and drug violence, family breakdowns, soaring incarceration rates for young black males, and abysmally failing public schools. Wilkinsburg residents are, in fact, the best example of the 13 percent of the United States� (black) population still living chained in by a Bush presidency, with our eyes riveted on the wall of the white media (Madison Avenue) in front of us, where we see nothing but shadows made by powerless leaders hiding behind us.
We could debate endlessly the role of such squeamishness in concealing and exacerbating the problem with race relations in both Pittsburgh and Pennsylvania. We could also discuss the minor role played by gangsta rap music. But, what we should consider is how right-wing conservatives, such as Senator Rick Santorum, have convinced so many blacks that shadows from behind (self-indulgent grab for expensive cars, clothes and money of black republican conservatives living in our affluent North Hills neighborhoods) are reality.
Many of the black residents of Pittsburgh and the surrounding communities believe a lot of the Madison Avenue nonsense. They believe things that are just not true. And, the Republicans gets their strength from this.
The bottom line: The root cause of the shooting at the Loews Cineplex is the apparent political cleansing of true democrats from local politics. Gerrymandering and electoral manipulation (just plan �punk ass� democrats) have left the city with zones of endemic poverty, an absence of social services, crumbling infrastructure, and appalling schools. After the radicalized poverty of black America was laid bare in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina almost everyone expected some change from white America. But quickly the Bush administration and the Republican party have lapsed back into policies to further divide America.
In the 1990’s white America built prisons to house the disproportionately black inmates it had planned to toss into jail (in the years that followed) to reassure the affluent majority it complacency with race issues. One of every eight black males between 25 and 29 years old is behind bars on any given day according to the Sentencing Project, a nonprofit group that seeks to reduce incarceration rates. If this rate continues, one of three black males born today will be imprisoned at some point in their lifetimes.
A local daily �conservative right� newspaper, �The Pittsburgh Tribune Review� recently feature an article written by Walter Williams, a professor of economics at George Mason University. In the article �Ammunition for Poverty Pimps� Mr. William suggested the Census Bureau�s 2004 current Population Survey found two segments of the black community. One segment suffers only 9.9 percent poverty rate and another suffers 39.5. He surmised that one would be a lunatic if they believed white people practice discrimination. He concluded, among other things, that the only distinction between the two segments was marriage. Adding, �If today�s black family structure were what it was in 1960, the overall black poverty rate would be in or near single digits.”
I guess Mr. Williams failed to consider the proof that demonstrates blacks are denied opportunities in forms of employment, education and even human treatment. For example, on October 18, I borrowed a little more than $50 to buy a bus ticket to travel halfway across the state for an oral test given by the Pennsylvania Civil Service Commission. I was well dressed in a dark business suit and could have been easily mistaken as a black republican conservative. However, while on the elevator headed for the floor for the testing, a white woman asked me if I was allowed on the floor where the testing was being held. She suggested that because I was black, “I had no business on their elevator.” She ordered me off the elevator on a lower floor and said that she would have to call up stairs to let the staff know I was on my way.
Soon thereafter she was advised that I was scheduled for an oral test on the floor I was trying to get to. But, she still refused to compromise. She announced that I wasn’t permitted to travel through their office without an escort. Interestingly, it was additionally odd that the State required a monitor to sit in with me during my testing.
Nonetheless, getting back to the LIHEAP issue, the federal entitlement program provides waivers and reduced heating rates to low-income households. It is a federal program that assists those who cannot pay their bills. Eligible households can receive assistance through a direct payment to energy vendors that supply their fuel, or through a crisis component during weather-related emergencies. To be eligible for the program, household income cannot exceed 135 percent of the federal poverty income guidelines: $12,920 for a one-person household; $17,321 for two persons; $21,722 for three persons; $26,123 for four persons; $30,524 for five persons. For larger households, the guidelines increase by $4,401 for each additional person. Homeowners, renters (including those whose rent includes heat), roomers and subsidized housing tenants may be eligible.
I have a good understanding of the program because I was previously employed by Allegheny County as a planner and wrote grant applications for the agency that implements the program. However, in 1989, I was fired in retaliation for organizing a union. The political sub-division said I was terminated for being tardy four times in a four-month period. The Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission (“PHRC”)identified a white female working in the same office as having been tardy 71 times during the same time period and not disciplined. But, the PHRC ruled it was bad management and not discrimination.
Ever since my termination the political-subdivision has found some way to retaliate against my household, i.e., always reaches from any available loophole to frustrate the process and deny my family the federal entitlement. In the past, I have complained to the State, federal government (FBI), courts and media to no avail.
Consider this, when the aftermath of Hurricane Ivan passed through Western Pennsylvania in September 2004, the LIHEAP offered free water heaters and furnaces. Income restrictions were waived allowing the affluent to participate. My family was denied relief because the deed to our house is recorded in our minor son�s name. But, LIHEAP allows renters and other non-homeowners to participate.
The current issue involves Duquense Light Company�s termination of our electric service immediately following the close of last year�s LIHEAP program (March 31, 2005). Although they already had $371 as a security deposit the utility company terminated service and demanded $866.01. And, despite the fact that we didn�t have any electrical service, the next month we received an unexplained bill for almost twice the amount actually due: $1,646.17. Because we are current living on �food stamps� we were forced to go without electric until the start of the 2005-2006 LIHEAP program.
As a �food stamp� participant we received our LIHEAP application early and returned it weeks before the November 7 start. In fact, as we do each year, we contacted Mr. Cornell�s office to advise him of our situation (requested that he process our application to allow the electrical service to be restored on November 7 without a 72-hour wait). Mr. Cornell didn�t respond.
Mrs. Titus, Mr. Cornell’s assistant did call on November 7, just before the closing (3:00 p.m.) of her office. She advised our application would be denied – “Duquense Light now demanded $2,600.� To memorialize the outrageous response I requested permission from Mrs. Titus to allow a “three-way” connection with the local media Channel 4). I called Channel 4 because I was given its �gold medal� for outstanding community service in 1989. However, during the three-way conversation Ms. Titus refused to acknowledge her previous position (Duquense Light demand of $2,600). She would only say our family was being denied the federal entitlement. Immediately, I voiced a complaint to Mr. Cornell�s secretary. She suggested that I call Harrisburg (Department of Welfare�s main office). She provided me the number.
Precious Perry answered the Secretary of Welfare�s telephone. She transferred me to Ms. Richman�s chief of staff (Linda Hicks). Mrs. Hicks promised to have Christian Bowser call before five p.m.. But, it never happened. At 9:00 a.m. the next morning (November 8), I called Mr. Cornell�s office and left another message requesting a return call. I also called Mrs. Hicks again and questioned why Mrs. Bowser never called.
This time, Mrs. Hicks promised to have Ms. Bowser call before 11 a.m.. Mrs. Hicks asked us to �call back if Mrs. Bowser failed to call.� It never happened.
I did call Ms. Hicks at 12:00 noon but she rushed me off the phone. She gave me Mrs. Bowser�s telephone number and requested that I call her directly. I called the number but got Mrs. Bowser�s voice mail. I left a message explaining the situation. Mrs. Bowser never called back.
On November 9, 2005, I called Mrs. Hicks again to advise Mrs. Bowser’ failure to call. But, Mrs. Hicks quickly rushed me off the phone again. She said that she would no longer address the issue. She said �communicate with Ms. Bowser from that point.�
Thereafter, I called Mrs. Bowser�s and spoke with her secretary. I left another message. Even more frustrated now, I called the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. I spoke with Mr. Tom Birdsong. I advised him of our situation and asked if he would investigate the issue in a �confidential� manner. He said that he would forward the information to Larry Walsh. I informed him that in the previous years I have communicated with Mr. Walsh but nothing was done. I even told Mr. Birdsong that I once connected a Post-Gazette columnist, Tony Norman, and allowed him to participated with a three-way telephone call (allowed him opportunity to monitor a call to prove how rude the LIHEAP program staff was acting). Mr. Birdsong said he would have Mr. Walsh call.
At approximately 4:00 p.m., I was finally able to get Mrs. Bowser on the telephone. She laughed at our situation!
After laughing, Mrs. Bowser would only reiterated Mrs. Titus position, �Duquense Light can demand funds that are not owed.� She added, �Mrs. Titus� position is final.� She said she would have Mrs. Titus send us a rejection letter.
Immediately, I called Mr. Birdsong. But, he became rude. The conversation concluded with Mr. Birdsong saying �No one is going to write about your family�s plight.�
50 cents, during an interview on ABC�s �The View,� said he was saddened by the fatal shooting: �I feel for the victim�s family in this situation.� He added, �But you know, these weren�t kids. This was a 30-year-old man (who) had a dispute with three other guys.�
I�m older than 30. But, what is rage? How come I�m able to control my anger? Would I have controlled my anger if one of my family members was hit by a stray bullet during the shootout?
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And they still call SUN MUNG WEIRD MOON the so called KING OF PEACE what a sick sick bunch of wasted minds