64 Replies to “Those Who Forget The Past Are Destined To Repeat It”

  1. Good one! The Cretiens should have emigrated to Canada- they’d still be running around on the loose, here.( And they would all have government jobs!)

  2. Or words to that effect.
    In The Life of Reason, the real quote is:
    “Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it”
    Forget says a foolish error while not to remember implies an unfortunate mistake.

  3. Slime by MWW & Wannabe Librano$$$$$$$$$>>
    http://www.bourque.org/
    http://www.dehors-harper-out.blogspot.com/
    Ms.Walker-Williams is an Aboriginal Canadian from Somena, BC, Canada. She has written for the National Post, Winnipeg Free Press, Vancouver Province and had a 2 year column for the Cowichan Valley Citizen in Duncan BC. She is currently residing in Florida, but hopes to return home to Canada soon with her American husband>>>>>
    Peter Pan Conservatism
    Peter Pan Conservativism: The Failure of Style Over Substance
    Or �Will They Ever Grow Up?�
    By Meaghan Walker-Williams
    How many “extreme makeovers” must the Conservative Party of Canada undergo before they realize that Canadians are sick of spin and demand instead integrity from their politicians? Yes, I’m talking about Stephen Harper’s “Feel Good” Summer BBQ tour. However, I would be remiss were I to not take a trip down memory lane to remind Conservatives of their previous PR failures.
    It is remarkable that although the latest incarnation of the Conservative party decries collectivism, it is seemingly addicted to collectivist methodology in its efforts to sell itself and its ideas to Canadians. Specifically, the Conservatives engage in amateurish propaganda rather than engage in an honest discussion of their policies.
    Preston Manning is, without a doubt, the Conservatives’ Lunacharsky, their “commissar of popular enlightenment.” The Reform Party founder developed his own type of “Proletkult” which is to this day employed by his acolytes. While some conservatives are delighted with the advent of the “Manning Center Do-Tank,” I am amazed at this No worse fate could befall Canadian Conservatism than to again fall under Manning’s spell>>> blah, blah, blah>…

  4. I wouldn’t place any confidence in a weblog that’d invite Meaghan Walker-Williams to make a big posting full of such ridiculous nonsense.
    Neither should Bourque. But, hey, we all make errors in judgement… nobody’s perfect.

  5. Now is the time for all good Liberals to come to the aid of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Party: Larry Zolf’s Epitaph for ex-PM Jean Chretien.>>>
    Chr�tien seems to be forgetting that it is next to impossible to make the whole Liberal party sign a loyalty oath. Loyalty oaths could turn Chr�tien’s Liberal leadership blues into a hallelujah chorus for Paul Martin.
    Still, there’s some consolation for Chr�tien and his problems with the Liberal party. Given those problems, no one in the media can ever call Chr�tien the Friendly Dictator ever again. There is truly only one Great Dictator of Canadian Liberalism and that is the Liberal Party of Canada. >>>>
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/vp_zolf/20020821.html

  6. The Liberal Family Tree: Trudeau, Chretien, Martin, Gagliano, Coffin, Justice Jean-Guy Boilard & etc.
    AdScam by the Librano$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$>>>
    http://www.rapp.org/url/?YQ3F4X3M
    John Gleeson, Winnipeg Sun.>>>
    So who is this Justice Jean-Guy Boilard?
    He’s a Liberal appointee, of course, called to the bench in March 1977 under the Trudeau government.
    And he’s the latest player in the Liberal Theatre of the Absurd production called AdScam.
    Some readers have asked why we make such a big deal about AdScam. Let’s try to explain.
    What makes the $250-million sponsorship program such an absolute disgrace to Canada is not just the millions stolen from Canadian taxpayers — you and me — and then in some cases kicked back to the Liberal party. That’s bad, very bad, but it’s not the worst of it.
    No, what’s so deeply disturbing and utterly deplorable is the fact that this program, exposed by the auditor-general as a truly criminal enterprise, was created by none other than the sitting prime minister, Jean Chretien.
    And it’s the fact the scam’s “cover story” was that the money was being used to “keep Quebec within Canada.”
    For Liberals, who’ve been milking the separation cow now for two solid generations, it was the most cynical, even hateful gesture imaginable toward Canadians who actually care about their country. Which is why the Liberal franchise became poison in Quebec — they could see what the Liberals had pulled off, and it sickened them.
    Amazingly, many Canadians didn’t get it. They didn’t realize how ruthlessly they had been misused by the governing party — pirates raiding a foreign vessel is a most apt comparison — and they turned around and voted them back into office, citing lack of alternatives (although a Green Party/Christian Heritage coalition — anything — should have been preferable to out-and-out crooks).
    Once re-elected, all the Liberals had to do was dust off the script and follow it to the letter.
    Martin was in charge: Martin who as finance minister under Chretien had met every Tuesday with his fellow Quebec ministers, including sponsorship boss Alfonso Gagliano, but would swear on a stack of money he knew nothing about the bogus scheme. Martin, the cleaner.>>> more

  7. Mixed bag here,
    While loathe to admit any agreement with MWW I agree that Preston is no solution. I think Preston is good at analyzing the situation, an important and critical step, but often his proposed solutions are the wrong choices….Great strategist lousy tactician….
    The think tank is a good idea…calling it a “do tank”..is this real? Really unfortunate choice of words.
    Preston has a role to play, gad fly, thinker, poser of ideas….doer is not one of them.
    Re the Chretien stuff…very funny. I hope this is true, it makes it sweeter…
    Final point since this appears to be a grab bag thread now, read Ms. Taber this morning. She is indicating that it is tough out there for journalists because grassroots conservatives are angry with them. >shock

  8. It is not who casts the votes that counts-it’s WHO COUNTS THE VOTES! (Or: who PRINTS the votes, and where they are issued.)
    Ain’t ‘democracy’ wonnerfull?

  9. Seeing the parallelism between the historic Chretien crime clan and the modern one we have to revisit the earlier concepts of genetic dredisposition to criminal sociopathy. 😉
    The modern Crime clan patriarch has a long rap sheet of unpunished criminal acts that include real estate fraud, public trust fraud, influence pedling, blackmail, uttering death threats, flag day assault, mass assault with pepper spray, massive conflict of interest conspiracies…we won’t get into the mob connections until Gomery’s report gives enough impetus to act…then there’s the son who miraculously escaped a string of rape charges…the son inlaw who runs shady international deals to keep the family coffers full enough to buy political influence, and the father in law who bankrolls all the family action and buys political/police absolution for the clan….a nice little inbred clutch of brigands if there ever was one.
    The part of the old saga I’d like to see replayed in modern times is the bit about this “Martin Jr.” rotting away in penetentary…would that it be so….Gomery do your stuff 😉

  10. Bourque’s site has become so rabidly partisan that its not much of a source anymore. I used to check it everyday, but now, I actually forget about it half the time. Neale is partisan to be sure, but does a better job, and without the hysterical edge.

  11. speaking of history . .
    The following is an article written by a Spanish journalist, Sebastian
    Villar Rodriguez.
    Europe died in Auschwitz
    I was walking along Raval (Barcelona) when all of a sudden I understood
    that Europe died with Auschwitz.
    We assassinated 6 million Jews in order to end up bringing in 20 million
    Muslims!
    We burnt in Auschwitz the culture, intelligence and power to create.
    We burnt the people of the world, the one who is proclaimed the chosen
    people of God.
    Because it is the people who gave to humanity the symbolic figures who
    were
    capable of changing history (Christ, Marx, Einstein, Freud…) and who
    is
    the origin of progress and well being.
    We must admit that Europe, by relaxing its borders and giving in under
    the
    pretext of tolerance to the values of a fallacious cultural relativism,
    opened it’s doors to 20 million Muslims, often illiterates and fanatics
    that
    we could meet, at best, in places such as Raval, the poorest of the
    nations
    and of the ghettos, and who are preparing the worst, such as the 9/11
    and
    the Madrid bombing and who are lodged in apartment blocs provided by the
    social welfare.
    We also have exchanged culture with fanaticism, the capacity to create
    with
    the will to destroy, the wisdom with the superstition. We have exchanged
    the transcendental instinct of the Jews, who even under the worst
    possible
    conditions have always looked for a better peaceful world, for the
    suicide
    bomber. We have exchanged the pride of life for the fanatic obsession of
    death. Our death and that of our children.
    What a grave mistake that we made!!!

  12. Maz2: I did a bit of Google search on MWW’s insipid caterwalling and what I see is a 5th column welfare statist in schizophrenic drag as a native libertarian-objectivist.
    Imagine a libertraian the calls for expnading the state to enforce group-specific welfare entitlements.
    Imagine a libertarian who wants for force their views on others with the power of the state…who slanders all who do not hold her values.
    Imagine an anarcho-rationalist who surrenders her responsibility for personal security to bungling state goons and runs to them every time she feel threatened (victimized) by someone saying something nasty about her.
    Imagine an “objectivist” who can rationalize objectivism’s athiestic “absolute reason” premise with the deep metaphysical spirituality of native culture.
    The sharp stench of hypocrisy edging on latent schizophrenia comes from these conceptually disassociated MWW scribblings. I think what we have here is your garden variey urban Menshevik in an ideological cosmetic extreme make-over.
    If MWW is libertarian-Objectivist then Neal Howard Stern and Ayn Rand work for the Taliban.
    Hell, I’m libertarian and I wouldn’t belong to any party that accepted the likes of MWW..think I’ll google Babble/rabble to se if she’s still a regular there.

  13. Preston Manning is far from a gadfly. He successfully transformed the Conservative party from a virtual copy of the Liberal party to a party that now stands for something. He made some errors but how many ideas of his and Reform did the the Liberals steal and take for his own? He could have pulled the usual Canadian politicians trick of turning on his own after his defeat to Stockwell.
    The thinktank idea is what was used by the Republicans in the 70s succesfully and has helped create/form many of todays conservatives in the US.
    Bourque was a regular site to visit but now is to be avoided. Nealenews is better. Any other news aggregators with a conservative slant out there?
    enough

  14. People often say that Bob Stanfield was the “best prime minister we never had”. That’s no longer true. Preston Manning now owns that title.

  15. Loewen & Crocus; Loewen & AdScam? Da Canadian values????? Is this guy serious? What did Allcock promise Loewen? Loewen is a parachute candidate for the Librano$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
    Crocus/AdScam/Loewen/Crocus/AdScam/Loewen; supposedly blew the whistle on Crocus; will he blow on AdScam? His motives? Pointless to speculate on that? Loewen’s fate is sealed; he is a Librano$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    MLA bolts Tories, wants to be a Grit MP
    By: Paul Egan
    Email Story Printer Friendly Version
    John Loewen, the Conservative MLA whose warnings about the Crocus Investment Fund proved to be accurate, made a surprise announcement yesterday that he is quitting provincial politics to run federally for the Liberal Party.
    Loewen said he will seek the Liberal nomination in Charleswood-St. James-Assiniboia, the west Winnipeg riding where Conservative Steven Fletcher defeated former Winnipeg mayor Glen Murray, the Liberal candidate, in a fiercely contested open-seat race last year.

    Loewen, who represents Fort Whyte provincially and has never lived in the federal riding he seeks to represent, rejected suggestions that switching parties to join the governing Liberals smacks of opportunism. He said he thinks his talents can best be used at the federal level and the federal Conservative party is too socially conservative.
    �The Liberal Party of Canada, led by Prime Minister Paul Martin, closely reflects my vision and my values for Manitoba and Canada,� Loewen said. �His track record speaks for itself with achievements like the recent national health-care accord, the national child-care program and his approach to fiscal prudence.� >>> more
    http://www.brandonsun.com/story.php?story_id=4776

  16. Do you thing anything will change because you are talking about it here? Really?
    Things change when ruthless people make them change.
    One of our former communist leaders PE Trudeau was ruthless .. he change things a lot. Mostly he changed us from thinking men and women into stupid mindless sheep. He was very intelligent, but not very smart after all look what he did! … that’s ruthlessness in action.
    Chretien was a dumb shit, but he had lots of ruth. Paul Martin is really clever but not very intelligent. It’s his ruth gets him by.
    Talking is what you do when you have to splain your ruthlessness. Otherwise talking is just jaw wagging as my Indian friend says.
    It’s going to take a hell of a lot of ‘ruth’ to change us from what we have become to what we should be. Too bad we are fresh out of it.

  17. RE:It is not who casts the votes that counts-it’s WHO COUNTS THE VOTES! (Or: who PRINTS the votes, and where they are issued.)
    A scary thought for the weekend. Maybe Canadians aren’t so stupid after all. How deep does the rot go? Can anybody comment on the validity of the following claim? (it was copied from an Indymedia site that has since changed servers, so the link probably doesn’t work) – Note that it’s 3 years old.

    http://hamilton.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/1881
    Corrupt Canadian Elections (Vote Fixing)
    by Mr.Daniel Towsey
    Email: 902 (unverified!)
    Phone: 4359683
    Address: 79 Lakecrest Drive #303 05 Jul 2002
    This is how corporate criminals have been able to rob our wealth, to use to buy out honest companies..
    MR.DANIEL TOWSEY
    July1, 2002
    News Release
    Let it be known to all
    I am sending you this document entitled ?Remedy for our stolen democracy? In hopes that you?ll realize that this is information that all Free Canadians need to know, to insure the protection of our democracy. This statement has previously been released to all members of our Parliament. This has been read by approximately 500,000 people on-line, at the Internets? World Wide Web, public forums, on line news medias?and more.
    This is a very important issue, for all citizens of Canada. It is enough to possibly cause complete public outrage. But my goal and intention at minimum is to start a national petition,. and present my public declaration to Parliament.
    Public Declaration
    I am now declaring that our Government is illegitimate, and should be dissolved. As our voting process is unsecured, therefore making it unaccountable. A new election needs to be called, with all necessary acts be put in place by the public to secure our public votes.
    Note; if you choose to ignore this news release, and not publicize it. It will be at the peril of our democracy. It is any free individuals duty to let this be known to all.
    Sincerely, Mr. Daniel Jude J Towsey

    MR.DANIEL TOWSEY
    CANADA
    Remedy for Our Stolen Democracy (Revised June 30,2002)
    Dear Citizens:
    Please read this.
    We in Canada have a very serious problem with corruption in our voting process .It has been going on since approximately 1969.
    We have a very old voting system that is extremely flawed. First, it has to be understood how a voting station works. Our polling stations are manned by volunteer witnesses from the different represented parties, all activities, and ballot counting is witnessed by them. When the polling station closes, the witnesses manually count all ballots for each riding. Then the results are reported by telephone to the Solicitor Generals office in Ottawa. At which time the solicitor general can enter any vote results he or she feels like entering, as there are no witnesses present for this process. In Canada, there is no way to verify those results. As all ballots are blank. The ballots are useless once the witnesses leave the polling stations. There is no way to verify the accuracy of the information that the solicitor enters in the computer bank. We have no safe guards against the corruption of our vote results. Most corruption will occur in highly populated areas. Since these activities will likely not be noticed.
    It is to be understood that if even the smallest possibility for vote corruption exists. Then all possible safe guards should be put in place for the witnesses, to eliminate it.
    I suggest that we put into place a system where all ballots have a unique UPC bar code on the backside. Then each polling station would be allotted a predetermined number of ballots. The location of each and every ballot would be accounted for, through the whole voting process. The ballots would randomly be given out to voters at each polling station. At the end of the day the used and unused ballots could be counted manually as well as with a computerized counting machine (computer). All activities need to be monitored by the volunteer (public) witnesses. The ballots will still need to be counted manually. In this way, all ballots will be accounted for in the whole country. To further safeguard, each and every volunteer will be given a printed signed copy of the results, to keep. So that results can be collaborated in the future by the volunteers at an on line site or manually through public records. There will also be other security safe guards put in place to ensure that the possibility for corruption never exists again.
    Note; The chief reporting electoral officer should have no authority to do any certifying of vote results without public witnesses from the represented parties being present to witness his certification activities?
    Our votes need to be protected. Our democracy starts at the polling stations on the day we vote. Lets make sure it does not stop there! I AM A PROUD AND FREE CANADIAN? Sincerely, Mr. Daniel Jude Towsey

  18. Maz2,[5:55am], and everyone… Please, let’s make it M.. from now on. No need to contribute to Noteriety. Noteriety leads to recognition. Recognition leads to public office!
    M.. = Google fails to compile into the Noteriety bank for M.. Get it? 73s TG

  19. Je Me Souviens; as Bruno would say, Where to, Boss?>
    By DANIEL LEBLANC and
    Saturday, September 24, 2005 Page A10
    OTTAWA — The riding of Papineau, in the ethnic heart of Montreal, will be the scene of one of the most interesting battles in the next election as Foreign Affairs Minister Pierre Pettigrew faces off against a leader of the women’s rights movement in Quebec.
    The twist is that Mr. Pettigrew made headlines by attacking the Bloc Qu�b�cois as distrustful of immigrants, and the Bloc has responded by nominating Haitian-born activist and teacher Vivian Barbot as his opponent.
    The battle will go beyond the individual riding as both parties try to win the support of the province’s ethnic communities in the struggle between federalism and separatism.
    The Bloc hopes Ms. Barbot will become the first MP from Quebec’s Haitian community, matching the Liberals, who this summer appointed the first Haitian-born governor-general, Micha�lle Jean.>>
    theglobeandmail http://www.rapp.org/url/?CIMLELYM

  20. Wow: that voting rigging guy is out to lunch. Really, he’s probably on crack.
    Votes are reported from each poll to Elections Canada. Each riding has somewhere between 150 and 250 polls. Don’t you think, if the poll results (which are available at elections.ca) were faked, that some poll captain would object, and state it publicly. Surely they don’t totally forget the vote totals once they report them?
    Someone get this guy some new tinfoil for his helmet.

  21. I’m glad I’m not the only one who’s beginning to have doubts about Bourque, nor the only one who thinks Manning would’ve been an excellent PM. Surely he’d have kicked PMJC and PMPM’s arses in terms of effective, democratically accountable government. No one in their right mind could credibly disagree with this. The past two LibPMs are unmitigated disasters the likes of which Canada has never before seen, not even from 1984-1993, really.

  22. Thanks from the bottom of my heart to You, Pd, for the words of Daniel Towsey! (This only goes to prove that not every citizen of this country fell off a turnip truck!)
    Now, here is another issue for alla you folks to chew on: On Page 38 of the Sept. 24 edition of the Toronto Sun Newspaper, it was announced that Immigration Minister Joe Volpe intends to raise immigration levels by 40% within the next five years, under a plan that will soon be presented to the Federal Cabinet.
    Considering that there is an estimated backlog of 700,000 applications to come to this country,(presumeing that most of these applicants have ALREADY PAID close to fifteen hundred bucks a pop to jump through the posted hoops in order to do this)- my question to the Minister of Immigration is this: Do you intend to grant landed status to the illegals who are already here, (“because they are already paying taxes and deserve to have citizenship”)- how does one pay income taxes without an S.I.N.? Volpe claims 20,000 of these, just in the city of Toronto, ( I estimate many more than that). Are these people going to be given their citizenship first, ( in time for their vote in the next election), before this is granted to those who have already paid their money upfront, and in some cases have been waited for years for their visas?
    This immigration scam, is orders of magnitude bigger than Adscam, bigger than the gun registry scam, bigger than any of the other on-going scams! (And this one is giving this country an international black eye!)

  23. Preston was and is a good man, a smart man a good strategic thinker. He would have been interesting in the PM’s chair for sure. Had the referendum been lost i would have felt comfortable with noone but him in that chair.
    However, while I know his goal was to REFORM the conservative party I question the sucess at doing so and the cost of acheiving the change that has happened.
    I dont want to fight old battles, that isnt the point, i.e. the necessity etc. But if you look at the results. Well you have a party moving to the centre to win, starting to look like the old PC party.
    The cost….well the cost was unchallenged success for the Liberal party, and they knew while the right was divided they would win again and again. That knowledge led, partially, to the arrogance and excesses of power.
    The mistake Preston made was underestimating the Westerness of the original reform. While legitimate in its aspirations the “Westernness” of reform, in image and practice didnt and couldnt travel well. I think his hope was that these ideas were more universally conservative than than Western populist. At the end he knew they werent, hence the name change to Alliance and the attempt to reposition.
    Before you stomp all over me, I am not saying western ideas are bad ideas or that “westerness” is wrong etc etc etc..just that ideas and practices that make sense in some environments dont work in others.
    Anyway. I love his think tank (once again dont call it a “do tank”) and yes the american conservative movement used it to revitalize the republican party. IT has that possibility here.
    Per the post today the biggest problem is that the COnservative party has ceased to be about big ideas and all about taxes….there needs to be some big principles that they stand for, that lower taxes as a tactic support. The think tank is the place to do this, although wasnt that the Fraser institute…..
    Anyway, its a good thing and he is a good person…but he is a big picture person. There will still need to be that Conserative leader who can take those ideas and explain, embody and implement them to the Canadian electorate.

  24. As to the Libs wanting to boost immigration 40%, I would say their only real agenda here is to replace the former immigrant Liberal voters who have gone over to the Conservatives with new ones who’ll certainly be as apt as their forebears to vote for the party in power that hastened their passage by looking the other way wrt immigration statutes etc. and gave them all kinds of financial and social benefits just for moving to Canada.
    The Liberals really don’t care about immigrants- they just want more votes, as they’ve lost so many with their extreme left-wing social reengineering that’s angered immigrant communities the country over and convinced them that the Liberal party is not interested in their interests and is therefore undeserving of their votes.
    Where else are the Liberals going to make up for lost votes? Do they hope Canadians will soon forget or forgive? Not a chance. This is why the Liberals want to speed up passage through our borders. It has nothing to do with being nice or caring about people or anything like that.
    The Liberals are cynical, ruthless, stop-at-nothing, power-insane gangsters.
    In my humble opinion, that is, and to which I’m as entitled as anyone, at least for now…

  25. Young Sentinel, Lest we Forget.. Only due to my more senior years, can I draw your attention to an early example. *The past two years, .. of which Canada has never before seen, you say?
    May I humbly draw your attention to a Quebec figure known as Duplessis?[spel] A Quebec premier of the fifties, I think.
    That scoundrel was nastier than average in my view. He squirred away some brige building funds and the result was a weakened bridge that did crumple and did take lives.
    I am not a skilled researcher. Methinks you are.
    I used to deliver the Montreal Gazette and had the habit of sitting and reading it when I was a kid. Not the common habit of kids I guess.
    I find those readings provide useful memory, while readings from school yields not that much.
    the New Site
    OK the Fleur de Lys page design for the new site was awful… The fleur de Lys was nice but the layout and the font…eeew.
    Please take a look now… way better, and the Blog roll toggles open and closed.. nice?
    http://Anchorpin.Redpin.com

  26. Stephen:
    What evidence do you have that the Conservatives are making inroads among immigrants?
    Peter

  27. Peter,
    I think you mean the post below mine, The Canadian Sentinel.
    But you raise a good question. Will the conservatives make inroads with immigrants? Was it Simpson that wrote the article a few months ago talking about the contradiction that Conservatives generally better represented “immigrant” communities values but could not seem to capture their votes.
    Be interesting to see.

  28. Trying my best to stay on topic, Kate…
    Tony G., I’m familiar with Duplessis. I believe even the Cretch was no fan of Duplessis. But then, I was thinking federally.
    And I like the new look of A-R. Way better. Y’all could fix the spelling of the link to TCS, btw, on A-R and B-G. It’s http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com and that’ll actually work. 😉
    I myself tweaked the appearance of TCS today. Thinking now of some new posts, upcoming…
    And, Loewen, just open your eyes, my friend.

  29. I’m sure that new Canadians who have been here long enough to see how terrible the Liberal Party really is and that they don’t represent their interests will be able to make more informed choices in the coming election. New Canadians are very smart and learn fast. The more we see, the more we understand and the more we can do the right thing with the truth now in our intellectual holsters.
    Why, when I was a kid, I thought the Liberals were good. Now that I’ve had my eyes open and my brain working for two decades, I know the truth. I’m no blank slate subject to deception and manipulation by the Ottawa mob that calls itself “Liberal”.

  30. Texas Bumper Sticker:

    Shoot Looters!
    Arm a Dillo!
    or
    Shoot Looters!
    Arm A Geddon!
    Naww.. Geddons can’t even shoot

    Proudly swiped from ProtienWisdom comments.’3s TG

  31. Peter; Some immigrants (such as my Scottish ancestors, 300 yrs ago) were looking for their independace from government. Some people want to run their own lives and really want to be FREE of government ‘games’. The latter type of people are PRODUCERS who have no intrest in governments who ‘buy’ votes, hense they will support Conservative M.P.s and ideas. Many people from former communist counties know the fate of citizens in Communist/socialist countries and thy have no intention of moving from one gulag state to support promoters another. We WANT good citizens like the latter BUT they will never vote Liebral/NDP/Bloc – and who do you think is governing this nation right now??? We will never attract the people we WANT with thee ruling pack of thugs we now have in power.

  32. OK Steve, It’s been fixed.
    Damn, it’s tough making executive descisions without a sharp secretary to sift out errors and reshape important decisions into perfection.
    ‘3s TG

  33. BTW, This business of pulling headlines or stories. I find this very unsettleing, and more so when posts on CQBlog get pulled.
    The Captain had a post about secret testimony on Adscam related stuff. I was tipped off early in the day.. read some of the post and then left to inform a few friends.
    When I returned to get the whole story… Poof! No more post. Well I know what I saw.
    Click on Candada in the topics on the right column at C.QuartersBlog.
    Notice that the standard posts there all have prominent dates at the top of each post.
    Notice that two posts around the 23rd DO NOT HAVE headline dates.
    Something is missing. I would never make anything of this at CQB, but it leaves me wondering if Libral Party Lawyers are reaching over the border to squeeze the Captain… eh?
    73s TG

  34. I like the what ever you call it on cretchen. Don’t know if it is related but it sure fits him to a tee. I have always refered to him as killer cretchen and his partner MR Dithers as the weasel. I think I now see where they get their guidense from.
    So some of you don’t think there is vote buying. It’s been a while sinse I voted in southern N.S. but it was worth a pint of rum the last time I voted. The expression then was “vote early, vote often.
    Serious can the conservatives ever win? I thought the reform party if it held in long enough would eventually make it but since they sold their souls to the PC’s I don’t think so. As a once proud Canadian I hate to say I don’t think the country will stay to gether long enough. I have lived in 6 prov’s, presently in B.C. and I don’t think Quebec will be the first to go.
    Tony Whiteley

  35. Tories are doing very well in the immigrant communities because of SSM. One of the stations here in Vancouver had a panel of ethnic community leaders including religious leaders, and all were outraged that the Libs had flip-flopped on SSM and were forcing it down the throats of the country. As more than one said, they came here for a better life, not to have their children forced to accept behaviour that is against every religion in the world. And they are angry about high taxes and Adscam AND, here in BC, the Libs failure to deal with the Air India disaster will cost them big time. It was a travesty of justice, and exemplified everything that is wrong with our system given that the media pointed out several errors made by the judge that he deliberately ignored or dismissed. Funny thing about the ethnic communities: They’ll blindly vote Liberal until they find themselves on the end of some really bad policies. Then all bets are off.

  36. Iron Lady: I suspect perceived financial benefits, family (as in family-class immigration) and community benefits will far outweigh religious scruples.
    Mark
    Ottawa

  37. Perhaps, but they’ll have a lot of explaining to do about why their values are expendable when it comes to the almighty buck. As for immigration, many of them have heard it all before and nothing has changed. Wishful thinking on my part, maybe. The good news tonight is that the Librano$ did not get their way: Christy Clark will not be running for mayor in this city.

  38. PD, Away back at 1:35 pm, Your reprint of Mr. Daniel Jude Towsey’s words are worthy of a careful reading. Makes one wonder about the accuracy of our current voting system.
    Remember during the voting fiasco for Quebec separation when Bloc members wrongly nullified thousands of Yes votes?
    Be sure to read the last two paragraphs at least. Looks like that would make for an honest vote counting system.
    Democracy does begin with a fair and accurate vote count, after all. 73s TG

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