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It isn’t really a traffic circle. Looks like they plopped an island with a sign in the middle of the intersection and expect people to pretend it is one. Not surprising that people get confused. It is surprising that there weren’t a lot of crashes.
Agreed. It’s multi-layered Saskatchewan.
smallest traffic circle I have ever seen.. More like a planter.
This summer/fall, the brainiacs at Alberta Highways put a traffic circle (I like them usually) at an intersection just NW of Lethbridge on Hwy 23 near Nobleford. Speed in Hwy 23 was previously 100 kph. Now it is 70 and 40 for about 2 km. And how is that working so far?
http://www.cjocfm.com/news-and-info/lethbridge-news/cattle-hauler-crashes-into-new-highway-23-traffic-circle-near-nobleford/
http://globalnews.ca/news/2307734/16-cattle-killed-after-semi-collision-at-new-nobleford-roundabout/
https://www.facebook.com/NoblefordIntersection/
http://www.albertapolicereport.ca/2015/11/13/update-picture-butte-rcmp-cattle-liner-crashes-on-hwy-23-at-hwy-519/
These intersection obstacles in Winnipeg are monuments to the idiocy of it’s designers.
Smart drivers.
Stupid intersection.
I keep wondering if some of these things are to deliberate attempts to up accident rates and increase violation revenues.
Good enough for government , right?
Lots of these in holland. You can drive over them without tearing off your wheels. I like this kind of thing instead of the Calgary style of massive concrete megastructures with half the pavement painted out as no go
They’re called roundabouts here in B.C. They take some getting used to and are very expensive.
The ones we have in Langley work very well.
This was erected by the NDP in the 1980’s, in hopes everyone would turn left.
They’re all over Australia. Pain in the butt for pedestrians who cross the intersection.
The two guys on ”Mythbusters” have tested the roundabout vs the four way stop.
Roundabout wins.
http://www.wimp.com/testroundabout/
Traffic circles, roundabouts, call them what you may, but they are a leftist idea, and they reek “progressive”. I hate them. One of the dumbest traffic inventions ever invented in all the years the universe has existed. But the pinkos love them.
When traffic is sparse, they are a pain in the rear, a waste of time and a waste of good tire tread.
When traffic is busy, you can get stuck waiting forever to get in the circle.
They are, in short, useless, just like every leftist idea is useless. There should be a picture of Che Guevara and Justin Trudeau in every traffic circle.
Saskatchewan is soooo euro. Most of those busy motorists are no doubt on their way to an outdoor cafe in the cultural district of Regina. Latte anyone? Love the tilt of your beret! Ooh la la! Hey it’s a cultural thing.
Edmonton had lots of them and for drivers who know how to drive through them, they can move traffic better than lights. But That one was not a proper traffic circle
I love them. Far cheaper and more efficient than stop lights or four way stop signs. They do need to be properly designed – the one featured above very clearly isn’t.
That said, how many accidents has it caused? It seems to me that when there was traffic most drivers did the rotary – when it was a single vehicle they cheated. That’s little different than a four way stop in that regard.
What is wrong with the simple 4-way stop? Oh yeah, in Canada we’re all so effing polite that no one can go!
You first… no, you, I insist.
Ah but no sir, you first….
And the stalemate of politeness ensues.
Many years ago I drove a furniture moving truck. Not a little thing but a full sized tractor trailer unit. If you want frustration on a monster scale, try coming upon one of these ill thought out monstrosities in something the size of a small apartment complex! Back up? No. Turn? No. Go straight through? No. Pissed off? Yes.
As usual the moon-bats in high places with no idea how the real world works making it harder for the rest of us plebeians….
Vancouver has a bunch of them too. Don’t be fooled…they’re not intended to improve traffic flow, but rather to impede it, hence the lefty euphemism that they fall under: Traffic calming measures”
well, I think this roundabout is for bicycles. why all the motor vehicles?
the very first roundabout in my town had an accident the day it was opened !!
I keep expecting to hear one of those euro ‘klaxon’ type horns any time . . . .
Traffic circles are the monument to the stupidity of mankind and a proof that neither creationists nor evolutionists are right and that humanity started when a drunk alien raped a monkey.
Installing these roundabouts is just another excuse to waste taxpayer money and reward politically connected engineering/road construction firms. This intersection is clearly too small. They just gone done prettifying a road near me with landscaped islands. Whatever aesthetic goals that may have been achieved were ruined by the increase in obnoxious signage that accompanied the project.
Roundabouts have merit at the junction of several different roads. The four-way stop is an improvement over traffic lights, but the four-way yield is even better, as no one should have to come to a full stop just because.
why not. it is a useless piece of concrete in the middle of an intersection and it is unnecessary.
I live in Regina and have encountered these obstacles and in fairness to the drivers these are the most ridiculous things I have ever seen. I’m sure some City engineer from the past wanted to add traffic circles to his resume and so built a couple of these.
Notice how the drivers who use them supposedly correctly have to make such a sharp turn to make the corner. It’s because the traffic obstruction is only about ten feet across. Also, they must be a real pain in the ass to clear snow around in the winter.
Someone needs to bring in a dozer and just push these things into oblivion.
I live in Regina and have encountered these obstacles and in fairness to the drivers these are the most ridiculous things I have ever seen. I’m sure some City engineer from the past wanted to add traffic circles to his resume and so built a couple of these.
Notice how the drivers who use them supposedly correctly have to make such a sharp turn to make the corner. It’s because the traffic obstruction is only about ten feet across. Also, they must be a real pain in the ass to clear snow around in the winter.
Someone needs to bring in a dozer and just push these things into oblivion.
“…It is surprising that there weren’t a lot of crashes.”
That was only a minute and a half.
Ignorance, BC be thy name. In Finland they these coming out of the ying yang, and they work great. Also they have almost no stop signs or stop ,lites, just a lot of round-a-bouts and yield signs, and the system works better than here
Real roundabouts work very well where the driving population understands them. That’s not a real one, it’s just an uncontrolled intersection with an obstacle in the middle. It takes more space to lay out a real one.
You call that a traffic circle? Naw mate, this http://parisjourney.com/driving-the-dangerous-arc-de-triomphe-roundabout-in-paris
is a traffic circle. I remember roaring around there in the summer of 69 in a VW, lots of fun when you are young and full of piss and vinegar!
They have the same bumps in BC and the same results. When are these people going to wake up and realize this ain’t europe. We don’t want them.
That’s not a traffic circle. That’s a hazard in the roadway for no apparent reason other than to confuse drivers. Whoever did that should be fired.
These circles were big in Edmonton for a time. James has it; urban planners attempting to apply European thinking where it doesn’t fit.
The problem is that no one in Saskatchewan knows what a traffic circle is. Healing circle, or a circle jerk, maybe, but traffic circle? … that thing in the clip is an intersection impediment and nothing more.
BECAUSE TRAFFIC CIRCLES ARE STUPID, that’s why.
Bottom line; the roundabout, as a traffic calming measure, is working. Virtually every vehicle slows significantly at the intersection, proper use notwithstanding.
Roundabouts are immune to power outages. Try getting through a major intersection when the lights aren’t working and tell me how much fun that is. Something that happens too often in Toronto. And no, I am not a pinko.
In Winnipeg these things were installed in many quiet residential neighbourhoods in 2009/10. They seem to have been the only response the City could come up with to the deficit-funded plan for “shovel-ready” infrastructure foisted on the minority Harper government by the two Opposition parties. Very annoying.
The neighborhood needs to get a permit for a bobcat, block all four entrances into the intersection, rent a bobcat, remove the pimple, and then re-open the street, disavowing any knowledge of the actions in question. A little civil disobedience goes a long way to convincing the stupid designers to stop it.
tommy, my home town built some of these traffic calming circles before the neighbourhood was built. end result the trucks carrying building materials had to run over the centre of every damn one of them. the subdivisions are not finished yet and I am sure that there will be much damage done to both the idiot circles and the trucks who have to get around them. engineers, I don’t think so. I am guessing that pie r squared is foreign to them. as my brother used to say pie are round, not square.
kate you have to speed up the comments. I click to another site and you are gone.
Properly designed round-a-bouts are extremely efficient.
An increasing number here in Vancouver.
Initially hazardous as most people really didn’t understand the rules.
And much racing (especially young Asian women) to beat the other driver into the circle.
Fell in love with them on a motorcycle ride in Ireland when I realized that with several merging roads I could stay in the circle until I was sure of my exit.
Huge improvement in traffic flow on West 16th near UBC.
Coffee all over monitor. Well done.
I am surprised at:
a. the amount of readers here that hate the circles,
b. the poor design of the traffic circle shown,
c. the number of lefties in Regina, no wait…
Have driven traffic circles from Bermuda, Bedford to Brisbane and have to say they are way more efficient if used properly. the biggest problem is uneducated or stupid drivers. That TV show Canada’s Worst Driver all too clearly that there are a lot of folks that shouldn’t be behind the wheel.
Right now in Thunder Bay there is one of those folks parking what appears to be a cross between a Smart Car and a motorized wheelchair, parking right at the entrance to stores. And I mean right at the door. Crazy.