Now is the time at SDA when we juxtapose!
Telegraph UK – The British Antarctic Survey (BAS) found that during past periods of high carbon dioxide, temperatures in Antarctica were up to 6C above current levels. This could cause a sea level rise of up six metres, threatening coastal cities like London, New York and San Francisco.
Al Gore’s multi-million $$$ condo …
So how many feet above sea level ? Five?
It’s AlGoracle’s surfing shack to catch those six meter waves!
Six meters of unadulterated BS.
Shameless huckster…
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Ah, right across the street from Yerba Buena gardens, where the water fountains run 24-7. I wonder how he can stand living next door to such a big carbon footprint?
The area fits him though, I attend a conference there most years and the bars there are packed every night with the after work crowd having $16 glasses of wine and $6 bottles of imported water from Norway.
You’ve got to love the timing of the release these “studies”. Could it be that the MSM has been sitting on these for a while with one set to be released every day from now till Copenhagen? By the time they are refuted, Copenhagen will be history. So the last interglacial period was 6 degrees warmer with much higher CO2(WTF, in a world before SUVs?) and no mention of which came first and this has something to do with the AGW debate? I guess this explains why the MSM-hysteria pimps have ignored the CRU story. Too busy working (colluding?) on the narrative.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/27/the-global-cooling-cover-up/
EDITORIAL: The global-cooling cover-up
Climate-change researchers admit their data is ‘garbage’.
“Other revelations hit at the very core of the global-warming debate. The leaked e-mails indicate that the people at the CRU can’t even figure out how their aggregate data was put together. CRU activists claimed that they took individual temperature readings at individual stations and averaged the information out to produce temperature readings over larger areas. One of the leaked documents states that their aggregation procedure “renders the station counts totally meaningless.” The benefit: “So, we can have a proper result, but only by including a load of garbage!”
Academics around the world who have spent years working on papers using this data must be in full panic mode. By the admission of the global-warming theocracy’s own self-appointed experts, the data they have been using is simply “garbage.”
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The programmers apparently had to try at least a couple of adjustments before they could get their aggregated data to show an increase in temperatures.
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Unlike these global-warming propagandists, we expect research to be done in the open. Scientists who refuse to share their data, who plot to destroy information and fail to tell other scientists how their results were calculated should be severely punished.”
Clean up, clean up at Third & Mission Street in San Francisco!
Massive BS storm wipes out AlGoracles mansion!
Surfin safari…surf boards are free…
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
“He is rumored to have been given a block of stock in Google before the company went public. ”
Is this way Google search suggestions on topics such as “climategate” are kind of sluggish.
mmm…
I’ll believe Al Gore when he donates all of his properties and investments to environmental groups, moves into a 1000 sq ft townhouse near the centre of some town well away from the ocean, owns a single Smart Car that he seldom drives cause he bicycles so much, and never travels anywhere.
Telegraph UK – The British Antarctic Survey (BAS) found that during past periods of high carbon dioxide, temperatures in Antarctica were up to 6C above current levels.
These past periods of high carbon dioxide must have been caused by cooking fires by natives. Which carbon credit plan did cro-magnum man use?
Here is another finger in the Global Warming eye:
“Editor’s Summary, Nature, the International Weekly Journal of Science:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v462/n7271/edsumm/e091119-09.html
(full articles follow the summary)
19 November 2009
Interglacials get warmer
Reconstructions of temperature variations from Antarctic ice cores rely on
the assumption that the relationship between hydrogen and oxygen isotopic
ratios and temperature are stable in space and time. Sime et al. analyse
three 340,000-year-old ice cores from East Antarctica and use an
isotope-enabled general circulation model to show that instead, the
relationship is nonlinear. During warm periods, the ratios are less
sensitive to temperature, so previous estimates of interglacial temperatures
are likely to be about 3 °C too low. This is consistent with peak Antarctic
interglacial temperatures at least 6 °C higher than today. This work
suggests that there are serious deficiencies in our understanding of
climates that are warmer than today’s.”
Needless to say, even the GW people can’t argue that this much higher temperature was caused by man-made activities, since we weren’t around in those days.
Quent
If you follow the link to the Telegraph UK site
in the comments there is a quote,
“Sea levels were at least 5 to 10 metres higher during the Medieval Warm Period.”
I don’t see exactly where it comes from, but would
seem to be one of many exaggerations. At the Viking
site at L’Anse aux Meadows in N. Newfoundland one
is struck by the rockiness of the beach; the explanation given is that the sea level was 1.5 m
or so above present levels. And that makes sense –
the shallow-draft Viking vessels would not have
had much difficulty in beaching, the creek which
runs through the site would have been more accessible, etc.
But 5 m would cover the site completely.
Of course these issues are complicated by post-glacial rebound etc.
Just let’s say that 5 m let alone 10 m seems excessive.
Goreacle Report: cc Canadians Mao Stlong Strong and his nephew, “Liberal leader” Bob Rae.
bcc Unabomber.
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“Vincent Gray on Climategate: ‘There Was Proof of Fraud All Along’ (PJM Exclusive)
IPCC expert reviewer Gray — whose 1,898 comments critical of the 2007 report were ignored — recently found that proof of the fraud was public for years
Nothing about the revelations surprises me. I have maintained email correspondence with most of these scientists for many years, and I know several personally. I long ago realized that they were faking the whole exercise.
When you enter into a debate with any of them, they always stop cold when you ask an awkward question. This applies even when you write to a government department or a member of Parliament. I and many of my friends have grown accustomed to our failure to publish and to lecture, and to the rejection of our comments submitted prior to every IPCC report.
But only recently did I realize that I had evidence of their fraud in my possession almost from the birth of my interest in the subject.
I had copies of these two papers in 1990:
Jones, P. D., P. Ya. Groisman, M. Coughlan, N. Plummer, W. C. Wang & T. R. Karl 1990. Assessment of urbanization effects in time series of surface air temperature over land, Nature 347 169- 172.
Wang, W-C, Z. Zeng, T. R Karl, 1990. Urban Heat Islands in China. Geophys. Res. Lett. 17, 2377-2380.
The first paper has been the major evidence presented by Jones in all of the IPCC reports to dismiss the influence of urban change on the temperature measurements, and also has been used as an excuse for the failure to mention most of the unequivocal evidence that such urban effects exist. The paper was even dragged out again for the 2007 IPCC report.
The second paper, which shared authors Wang and Karl from the first paper, used the very same data from China which the first paper used to demonstrate the absence of urban influence — yet instead concluded that same data to be proof of the existence of urban influence.
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http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/vincent-gray-on-climategate-there-was-proof-of-fraud-all-along-pjm-exclusive/
Micheal Mann of Penn State University was seated next to a little girl on the airplane when the he turned to her and said, ‘Let’s talk.
I’ve heard that flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger.’
The little girl, who had just opened her book, closed it slowly and said to Micheal, ‘What would you like to talk about?’
‘Oh, I don’t know,’ said Micheal. ‘How about global warming?’ and he smiles.
‘OK, ‘ she said. ‘That could be an interesting topic. But let me ask you a question first.
A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff – grass – yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, and a horse produces clumps of dried grass. Why do you suppose that is?’
Micheal Mann, visibly surprised by the little girl’s intelligence, thinks about it and says, ‘Hmmm, I have no idea.’
To which the little girl replies, ‘Do you really feel qualified to discuss global warming when you don’t know shit?
John @ 12:51 LOL
OT: Kate, do you know the website for that Russian YouTube climategte video?
Am I the only one who see’s the similarity between the face-plant the warmies are doing right now and the meltdown of Jimmy & Tammy-Fay Baker?
Will, Lizard May give us the mascara run-down when this is done?
“Could it be that the MSM has been sitting on these for a while with one set to be released every day from now till Copenhagen?”
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Nah. Perish the thought. And if it wasn’t the MSM, they it was surely the source agency itself. Remember how Lancet published its Iraqi war dead crap on the eve of a US election, not once, but twice. Just coincidence, of course. /p
Seriously, I’ve noted far too many tear-jerking, scare-mongering news reports being published in the last couple of weeks for it to be anything else. Funny how these organizations expect the reader to lap it all up and not notice their starkly naked transparency.
Just yesterday the seas were going to rise 6 feet – today it’s 6 meters. We’re all doomed. Well, you’re doomed. I have my watermelon helmet so I’m ok.
It’s like 2012 has arrived early. Such a coincidence, every news report updates how all the world collapsing about us, just weeks before the moment of our possible Copenhagen salvation….
jcp:
Line your watermelon helmet with tinfoil…you’ll be even safer.
Kate:
That’s because they are either co-opted media or massively ignorant media.
Where is that Gore is the Messiah graphic that you had when an “Inconvenient MASSIVE FRAUD” apocalyptic fiction was being used to indoctrinate school age minds in the TERROR of AGW?
The “Hope ‘n Whoring” Treaty duped media will continue their shrill hysteria until the men behind the curtain get the ridiculous ‘rent seeking’ agreement to reinvent indentured servitude type serfdom for the masses.
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
These past periods of high carbon dioxide must have been caused by cooking fires by natives. Which carbon credit plan did cro-magnum man use?
Posted by: Doowleb at November 27, 2009 12:40 PM
Don’t you know it was all the buffalo farts. Good thing they were killed off.
NOW THE QUEEN speaks out on climate change!
I think the monarchy just jumped the shark in Canada.
Socialists and unintended consequnces.
How I would love to see this as a magnacarta moment where the people, through the internet, drag the machevilian schemers in the shadows out into the light of day.
Never before in history have we had so much knowldge at our fingertips.
For flood safety Gore isn’t on the first floor of building. They bought a place on the penthouse floor. See he knows the floods are coming!!!
No News is No News: “Don’t you know it was all the buffalo farts. Good thing they were killed off.”
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I’ve been wondering about that for years, now. Somebody ought to do an analysis of buffalo farts. I read somewhere that prior to Europeans arriving on the continent the number of bison on the North American plains was something between 40 to 60 million or more. I don’t know how that compares to the current cow population on the continent, but it sure would be interesting to see how the cow versus bison farting machines stack up against each other, not just in how much they produce per individual animal, but also how much methane is in bison farts versus cow farts. Of course, the AGW crowd will come back with the destruction of forests as carbon sinks as a complicating factor.
Anyway, that’s my most brilliant contribution to this thread today.
[sorry, deleted – link is affecting some computers. – ED]
Back in the 60’s when I attended the OAC (Ag college) it was declared by the Animal Husbandry Department that there were more horses than in 1900 when horses were the primary prime mover on farms and road transport…..
I am still dubious of that claim….
Re forest cover….I have noted that photos from the mid 19th century of cities/town/localities hereabouts—-trees are strangely absent. They had literally cut down everything.
Farms still had large areas infested with stumps but NO trees.
Then about 1900, they went nuts planting trees everywhere.
It has been noted elsewhere about the vast increase in forest cover since the 60’s when satellite appraisals began.
Locally I have observed areas freshly cleared, drained and now farmed but my observation indicates much more acreage reforested.
On my home farm we cleared some 5-6 acres—while I later reforested 14-18 acreas of steeply sloping land which eroded under cultivation. Gone are the individual trees standing alone and the fence bottom trees….recently replaced by extensive conifer hedge like rows of trees.
Re sea-level rise:
Activists removing tidal-guages in Tuvalu and the Maldives……
Notice that these “experts” jump to the conclusion that higher temperatures in ANTARCTICA result in sea level rises.
You do not need to be a “scientist” to calculate how much melting occurs when Antarctic Temps increase 6C…..Currently Antarctica is about -30C most of the time—does ice maelt at -24C faster than at -30C????….just asking!!!!!
orvict at November 27, 2009 3:25 PM
That link you provided proved that my anti-virus AVG is effective….ActiveX etc….
Rabbit @ 12:40
Good point. Heck Ed Begley Jr has more credibility with me. He lives in a house he bought 30 or more years ago…lives what he preaches. I personally wonder how his wife puts up with him, but I would put Begley more in the catgory of sustainability….and a notorious tightwad (nothing wrong with that)…..
I dont agree with Begley’s politics but I have some respect for his committment. Gore is just a hog on this stuff…along with being an immense blowhard and huckster.
‘These past periods of high carbon dioxide must have been caused by cooking fires by natives.’
It wasn’t the Flintstones’ SUV?
Can that link be disabled to keep any one else from having problems?
Dark places Indeed.
Of course, the AGW crowd will come back with the destruction of forests as carbon sinks as a complicating factor.
~Louise
Because of tree farming for commercial purposes, there are more hectares of forest today than there were when our nations in North America were created.
Louise, absolutely brilliant! LOL!
If you put that in an email, with a picture or two, in two months in would end up in my inbox and I’d have another good laugh!
“For flood safety Gore isn’t on the first floor of building.”
It won’t matter if this happens (but it’d be cool if it did):
http://www.evl.uic.edu/aej/527/pics/octopus.jpg
Disclaimer: This portrays a Harryhausen-created fictional event. Do not click the above link if you are prone to confusing Hollywood-produced stories or most MSM coverage as representing reality.
That’s just a block away from my office. When I see him on the street, I’ll give him a lesson on the temperature of the earth’s core.