Ottawa Citizen Editorial Board Interview With Stephane Dion

One wonders why Liblogs aren’t leading the charge to bring the words of their new leader to a broader audience. So, you’ll have to go to BBS for the link and reporter reaction. (mp3 – 10 megs)
Update – The reviews continue to pour in;

the war in Afghanistan was caused by: “A LACK OF WATER”
Yup,
the Taliban weren’t fomenting the most virulent brand of Islamic extremism, thereby aligning themselves with Bin Ladin for the purpose of worldwide Jihad,
they were just thirsty.

Unfit to lead – Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen

64 Replies to “Ottawa Citizen Editorial Board Interview With Stephane Dion”

  1. At this point I’ll agree with Denley.
    Dion is the epitome of befuddlement.
    His extreme difficulty with the English language is either by design or arrogance because he’s been in Ottawa for some years and could not have been isolated from English. It could be as good as we’ll see from him on that front.
    No doubt the Old Guard will not be amused, the knives will come out.
    Wonder how our friend WK feels about his choice for Leader?

  2. Yes, I listened to the full 1 hour interview with Mr. Dion. He does like to ramble on and on and not say much.
    about 39:10 into the interview, I was especially astonished, when Mr. Dion blamed Preston Manning and Joe Clark. He stated that his MAJORITY Liberal government couldn’t implement CO2 reductions because of Preston and Joe were against the Kyoto Protocol. He also stated that it was because Floridians didn’t know how to count (I would presume that he was refering to the 2000 US election – George Bush elected as president).
    And this is the person who wants to our Prime Minister? Mr. Dion is so void of any logical and critical thought.
    Also, Mr. Dion is forcefully pushing for carbon trading market. Why? Will China and India pay Canada (should Canada does achieve its targets)? Or is it another Quebec scheme to suck the rest of Canada’s finances?
    Mr. Dion, you have some ‘splaining to do.

  3. Stephane Dion is an atheist, born and raised, which is pretty unique among N. American politicians. He would be one of the first atheists elected to a major office in North America.
    In several states atheists, by law, are not allowed to hold public office. In Arkansas, atheists aren’t even allowed to testify in court.
    http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/StateConstitutions.htm
    PS I’m watching an interview with PQ leader Andre Boisclair; his english is exceptional, much better than Dion’s.

  4. “about 39:10 into the interview, I was especially astonished, when Mr. Dion blamed Preston Manning and Joe Clark. He stated that his MAJORITY Liberal government couldn’t implement CO2 reductions because of Preston and Joe were against the Kyoto Protocol.”
    Mr. Dion obviously has an issue with counting. Does he know that a majority means that his party can pass legislation without any help from the opposition?
    Also Mr Dion’s comment on the environment is a joke. He stated that his aim is to have 0 emissions. Does he really know what that means? We would all be dead.

  5. Hearing Dion’s cryptic contempt for anyone who doubts or dissents to his vacuous statist-socialist idealism sparked a twinge of Deja vu in this Albertan.
    I recall as a young man hearing the same pompous agressive statism from another cocky socialist Frenchman who wanted to “nationalize” Alberta’s petroleum economy.
    Dion’s mewlings about controlling Alberta’s resource development, outputs and taxing the industry sent alarm signals off. I now see this Dion-Strong Kyoto plan has little to do with climate, it will be rigged to become a defacto NEP2.
    Dion’s emotionless non empathy with the working people of Alberta was evident in the interview. But I want to tell him that I was one of the victims of his party’s first NEP assault on Alberta’s sovereignty, wealth and economy.
    I was part of the human cost of PET’s arrogant socialist agenda and his remorseless hatred of the west’s independence and affluence. NEP was directly responsible for the industrial down-sizing which resulted in my losing my 1st house and marriage…and 8 subsiquent years as a vagabond worker making ends meet until prosperity returned to Alberta with the cancellation of NEP and open trade driving our major industry back to health and supplying stable employment.
    I was not alone…there were millions who experienced the same trauma of Ottawa-created income loss and the personal stress and family crisis this entails. We will NEVER forget the callous disreguard of our prosperity displayed by an arrognt ideologue who used my province as an academic social experiment.
    I see the same ruthless callousness in Dion…and I see the same bigoted aggressiveness towards Alberta from him. All I have to say to Dion is; never again! Never again will I allow a medling Ottawa politician to disrupt my life so drastically. Never will I allow some political idealist to attack my home and province so aggressively with such devastating legislation. I won’t allow it!
    If by some fluke, Central Canada turns its back on the west and puts this radical flake Dion in power to carry out his vendetta against me and my province, I’m done with Canada! From that point on I will do everything in my power to take my home province out of the abusive relationship it has with Ottawa and Canada.
    Canada had best hope Dion’s dog gets killed chasing SUVs in traffic if they want to keep a unified Canada.

  6. Don’t worry Liz, flimsy Warren is right now designing a fart bottler to fit Stepons ass. Having filled so many for Cretin and Martin he knows his stuff. Soon as he has designed the perfect Kyoto freindly bottler he will roll it out when time permits, as his other job as pissboy to the Lieberals takes a lot of his time.

  7. The libranos electing this moron is evidence of the moral depravity and ignorance of the liberal party. The MSM’s support for him is evidence of the media’s blind love for all things Liberal. One can only hope that there are enough intelligent people in this country to keep Canada strong and free.

  8. W.L. that is the best anaylisis of what we in Alberta went through because of Turdeaus hatred of free willed, hard working, inventive, union wary, family freindly people. That disgusting evil frenchmans nep about cost me my whole operation. I trucked every corner of Alberta for four years, lived in a Freightliner to hang onto my land and machinery, never again. This despicable nerd leading these money theives need to be forgotten like all Lieberals. Think of the potential of this country if all provinces had the work ethic, and quit depending on handouts from their nanny state, we would be the envy of the world and most of all, we all would have pride. That is something Lieberals will never have and purposly try to steal away from others so the can become self loathing leechs like themselves and the media that supports them.

  9. On healthcare:
    we have to find the best practices,
    “and celebrate them” ????
    (cue Cool and the Gang)

  10. Kate,
    did you see the accompanying editorial at Blue Blogging Soapbox, by Denley at the Ottawa Citizen:
    “I’ve just met Liberal leader Stephane Dion for the first time and I have to say, it was a frightening experience. The thought that this fellow could become the prime minister of Canada ought to alarm us. Everything about Dion seems soft, from his handshake to his policies. His appearance at the Citizen editorial board Friday confirmed the fears I had when the Liberals chose him as their leader. Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Don’t take my word for it. You can catch the interview yourself at ottawacitizen.com.”
    Ouch.

  11. Yup,
    the Taliban weren’t fomenting the most virulent brand of Islamic extremism, thereby aligning themselves with Bin Ladin for the purpose of worldwide Jihad,
    they were just thirsty.

  12. I listened to the whole vacuous empty interview and was equally appalled. He operates within words rather than reality. And a constant refrain is ‘it’s someone else’s fault’.
    His comments on why he is so focused on the environment – were that he ‘loves nature’ and ‘Quebec’s rural environments are beautiful’. So, his definition of ‘the environment’ is ‘the countryside’. But, Mr. Dion, the environment isn’t the summer cottage or ski trail; it’s the hyrdo dams, the mines for metal, the industries, the cities.
    His argument on Kyoto and the lack of Canadian activity when the Liberals were in power, were to blame everyone else. He first blamed the Americans, saying that ‘we were supposed to be doing it with the Americans’. Then, he blamed the provinces. Then, the Conservatives. Then, lobby groups. Then, that Canada’s oil and gas industry was so productive for the world. When it was pointed out that the Liberals had a majority – and could implement decisions – he dithered that ‘it was hard’, that the opposition and lobby groups…
    With regard to Health Care, he insisted that he wouldn’t allow private care – and when asked how he would deal with the problems in health, he came up with some astonishing statements.
    Health care problems – would be solved by ‘circulating information on new technologies to hospitals’. He felt that a lot of problems in our health care are due to the lack of ‘information about new care’. Is he serious?
    Then, he mentioned that cancer, was caused by pollution to water, food, and air. I think he felt that if pollution/emissions were ended, this disease would disappear.
    Obesity in children – solved by ‘increasing sports facilities’.
    Other problems in health care – solved by the federal gov’t ‘identifying the best practices’ in health care and informing the hospitals.
    The arrogance – that the problems in Canadian health care are either pollution, lack of sports facilities or lack of information. The COSTS are ignored. The cost of a bureaucratic-run, cost-heavy bureaucracy – are ignored.
    Other tactics to reduce pollution – ‘incentives’ to purchase energy-efficient cars, products..even though these might be more costly purchases. If the product costs more to purchase, even with Dion’s suggestion of a ‘federal rebate’ – people won’t buy it! Dion assumes that cost is a choice, when in many cases, the cost of a product is not a choice but a requirement.
    All in all, it was tedious, unimaginative, whining, and focused on a topheavy, authoritarian gov’t.
    And – Dion doesn’t recognize that the operating infrastructure of Canada has changed; he ignores the West.

  13. I’m sorry. I wanted to listen to the whole interview, but I just couldn’t understand him. Perhaps it is just me.
    Chretien’s English was not the greatest, he at least got his point across. It makes one wonder what the reaction in Quebec would have been if say Belinda had become leader and tried to communicate in her extremely bad French.

  14. Dion is just throwing out the same old Liberal line. A number of Lib bloggers, Red Tory for example, were throwing around the line Harper voted down every enviromental reform put forth by the Liberals. When i pointed out Liberals had majorities from 1993 till 2004, and Harper only had 99 seats from 2004 till 2006, not one Lib blogger ever managed an explanation.

  15. bartinsky said; ” W.L. that is the best anaylisis of what we in Alberta went through That disgusting evil frenchmans nep about cost me my whole operation. I trucked every corner of Alberta for four years, lived in a Freightliner to hang onto my land and machinery, never again. This despicable nerd leading these money theives need to be forgotten like all Lieberals.”
    Yes Bart most eastern Canadians have no idea how tough times were for working people in Alberta during that decade of economic winter brought about by NEP. They do not realize it was almost as bad as the 30s depression without the drought. We certainly had the unemployment rates and bankruptcies to match the 30s depression. Back east they think the unemploys were around 12% but most of us had already gone through our benefits and still were unemployed, under employed or in 2 or more poor paying part time jobs and only subsisting.
    They didn’t see the 1 in 3 stores downtown vacant or abandioned…the thousands of “for sale signs” on homes and businesses or the hundreds of thousands of defaulted mortgages and farm loans that almost sank the Alberta Treasury Branch and other co-ops and local trust companies…they didn’t see the mile-long trains and tractor convoys loaded with oilfield equipment all headed south…they didn’t see Aberta courts filled with separation filings, child support and custody hearings or family services maxed out providing subsistance welfare to needy families…they didn’t see the many church and provincial food banks that sprang up to offer some relief to the 20% unemployed ( these were the ones who ran their benefits dry and were off the rolls who still had not found a decent job that payed for all their needs)…I’m old enough and not proud enough to say there was a time in that NEP depression where I was beaten down so far that I slept in my car had to use a food bank….People in Ontario and Quebec have no idea this made-in-Ottawa depression in Alberta even happened….and I bet it was by design…eastern media protected PET from the fallout of the NEP and the east was kept in the dark about conditions in Alberta when NEP folded our oil patch.
    Those bad times recall a lot of pain and anguish in me…and a seething hatred of meddling socialist liberals and Ottawa in general…probably the most angering thing to deal with was that we were completely politically powerless becaise no matter if we all voted against Trudeau the east put him back in power. People back east also don’t realoze that it was the economic and social conditions we endured from the NEP was the impetus for the reform movement and its sweep of western seats.
    As for your reference to these socialist Liberals from Quebec as “theives”…thats not nearly a strong enough word. Mark Steyn has dubbed Canadian Liberal socialist statism as a “Kleptocracy”…a government of autocrats who are mentally addicted to stealing. That seems devistatingly accurate to an Albertan.
    Dion appears to be a genetic archetype kleptocrat…he han’t even got his leadership diapers wet yet and he’s already got a plan to invade Alberta’s economic engines…and every man woman and child in Alberta has better listen to the stories of the older gen that survived NEP1 if they do not want to see NEP2…Dion as a typical socialist kleptocrat and can no sooner resist embezzling Alberta’s wealth than a wolf can stop killing sheep.
    Alberta had best beware and be prepared to take some drastic constitutional measures to deal with Dion’s aggressive malevolence should this little winged monkey ever get near the PMO.

  16. Other comments by Dion – vacuous and irrational, were that ‘my government’ would have ‘regulations’ in place on emissions, on products to purchase, etc, etc. These regulations would Solve the Problem.
    Now- this contradicts his complaint that the reason the Liberal gov’t, when it was in a majority power, didn’t do a thing about ‘the env’t’ was because of: the Americans, the Conservatives, the Lobby Groups, the Provinces, the Oil and Gas Industry….well, if these stopped the Liberals when they had a majority, then, why is he now, blaming Harper for ‘not doing anything..when Harper is doing far more than the Liberals? Why isn’t he helping Harper do things? Why are the Liberals not helping put through the Clean Air Act?
    After all, the Americans, the Conservatives, the Provinces, the Lobbies, the oil and gas…still exist.
    And if Dion has all these agencies as the problem preventing the old majority Liberals from doing anything, then – how does he think he’ll do anything IF, IF, he were in power? Those groups would still exist – and he could continue to happily blame them.
    He refused to accept Liberal inactivity as the cause – it was always everyone else’s fault.
    His ‘zero emissions’ is astonishing, I’d like to see him breathe with zero emissions. Doesn’t he know how chemical processes operate?
    He’s also big on self-praise. And very prickly. His statement that he deals with ‘environmental problems’ by always using cold water for washing clothes, having only one car, using public transit – are a joke.
    He stresses his focus on ‘national unity’ (that’s his constant reminder of ‘his’ Clarity Act). He ignores that he is, all by himself, setting up Alberta separation with his bad-mouthing of Alberta workers (easy money) and his attempts to control Alberta’s oil industry.
    He has no policies, other than vacuous statements. His suggestion to deal with health care by providing ‘more information’ on ‘new health practices’ was quite something. He’s stating that our health care problems are not the system, but simply the lack of information. Incredible.
    When asked how he would meet Kyoto’s requirements, his answer was ‘lots of determination’.
    Empty, vacuous and ignorant.

  17. Personally…I fell asleep in my chair in my computer room. Even coffee didn’t help. My wife came in because she heard me snoring….all she could ask was “what in the world are you listening to”? I told here once I figured that out I would let her know.
    It was nice to read an editorial about Dion that was actually truthful…but then again I have come to expect that from Denley.

  18. If I remember correctly the Clarity act was started by Preston Mannning. Maybe Borat Dion couldnt be clear on dat.

  19. Yes W.L. I was in one of those 2 mile long lines of trucks hauling 120 foot loads of oil rigs to Texas where the oil business was welcome. Always remember, oil can pack up and move to where there is freindly governments to deal with, just look at Sask. and their seizing of the seismic records 40 years ago, that devastated those socialists and that province, and has for all these years. Be very wary of Lieberals disguising their money theiving processes as environmental saviors.

  20. I gave up listening in disgust after about 10 minutes and will wait for someone to post an English transcript of the interview. Being a doctor I was curious what Citroen Dion had to say about health care and found a chunk in which he was going to solve medicare’s problems by giving doctors more information! As doctors we have lots of information and here in BC the College of Physicians provides free online full-text access to thousands of medical journals and I suspect that Albertan doctors are even better informed than we are in BC.
    Perhaps what Dion means is that the government will provide information in the form of the latest statist liebral propaganda to doctors about how they should be practicing. He hasn’t the slightest clue about medicine and, based on the comments I’ve read above, he hasn’t a clue about anything else either.
    Someone with a stronger stomach than mine should go through this interview and other public statements of Dion’s and come up with the most assinine utterings of this moron for use in the next federal election. I know it will be difficult as Dion makes Cretin sound like a genius in comparison, but I’m sure there are some of his statements that are much more idiotic than the rest and can be used against him.
    As far as medicine goes, the problem is simple: socialized medicine doesn’t work. At this point, there is only one country in the world, N. Korea, that has a similar socialized medicine to Canada’s. Cuba once belonged to this select group, but they’ve recently strayed from the true socialist path and are allowing foreigners to pay cash to use their medical system.

  21. …and yet Dion is considered the epitome of received wisdom by a substantial fraction of our self-appointed elite and info-masseurs, and thus the electorate.
    Go figure…

  22. There is a theory ciruculating among the Liberals that the NEP was not the cause of Alberta’s oilpatch’s demise…that it was simply a perfect storm of pricing and supply that would have resulted in the death of the business anyways.
    Well, one thing no one has answered for me yet is; if the NEP had NO affect on our oil patch, then why did so many rigs go down to the states to go to work right away?
    Yah. No answer. Ever.
    Dion’s vacuous comment about the “easy money” in the oilsands makes me laugh. Its like 1979 all over again. The Liberals looking to a financially stable Alberta, and licking their lips…do vultures actually have lips?
    Mr. Dion, you are welcome to come work on my crew anytime. For a full week, and see how easy the money is. Perhaps you’ll have a more liberal er, enlightened perspective of our jobs.
    In the meantime, I am sick to death of enlightened academics with no clue about the real world, who live in ivory towers and hide behind closed doors telling me that they are green because they named their dog “Kyoto”.
    What an idiot.

  23. I am beginning to think that the Liberal focus on the Environment is a cover for the Real Agenda, which is Alberta’s money.
    The Liberals are a centralist party; their power base has been in Ontario and Quebec. They have lost Quebec with the coming of the Bloc. To get Quebec ‘back’, they must essentially bribe Quebec. Quebec is a problem because it operates in an economic vacuum. By this I mean that its economy is isolated from reality because it is cocooned within the Canadian economy. It is always propped up, given special subsidies, treatment, etc. AND, as such, it, if I may use the term, ‘vacuums up’ resources from the ROC.
    Furthermore, the Quebec economy is in constant deficit. It has the highest debt load in N. America. That is because its socialist welfare lifestyle is far beyond its capacity to support. It requires massive federal subsidies.
    Where is the money to come from, to support Quebec and get those votes for the Liberals? From Alberta.
    So, the Liberals are defining themselves as ‘environmental saviours’ and defining Alberta’s oil as ‘environmental evil’ – and they will tax and tax that action – to purchase Quebec votes.
    Is this a parody, a paranoid or a reality/

  24. Dion is a real head case. He blames CPC, when Libs had majority, for “obstructing” Kyoto action, but has nothing to say how Libs unable to force a minority government to act.
    What is he really saying? IMO, he believes the real probem is he wasn’t in charge. Everything will be OK now.
    Cold water and one car. Yeah, that arrogance is going to play. Check G&M poll where 2/3 of respondents willing to take reasonable action on environment (I refuse to call it climate), provided other nations are willing to act.
    Translation for Mr Dion: Kyoto is dead duck.
    Please force an election over this; I can’t wait. Maybe we can shut this clown up once and for all.

  25. Bartinski said: “Be very wary of Lieberals disguising their money theiving processes as environmental saviors.”
    I hear ya Bart…but the problem with Canada is that the easten media has cultured a 2 week memory span in the eastern urban demographic that elects our federal governments….and many of them voting now have no knowlede or recollection of the damage socialist liberal energy policies did to their fellow Canadians out west.
    I hear my contemporaries complain that; “them easterners don’t give a damn about us they’re only concerned with their own self interests”…well there is some truth to that but having worked and lived in Ont. and Quebec, I can state that it is more a matter of a complete black out of Alberta news and affairs in eastern media that is cultiring this disassociation between central Canada and the west.
    Of course the Liberals are masters of working one region of the nation against the other and they have aligned themselves with a sycophant eastern media which censors western vox populi and only runs negative spin on western affairs and politics…note that the last 2 Chretien campaigns and the Martin campaign pitted the east and liberals against the west in fraudulent debates over the West’s/conservative/Manning/Day/Harper/Klein’s agenda to destroy health care and the Canadian way of life (epitomized by Liberal socialist ideals/policies)….trashing the west became so thick and second nature for the eastern media that Western political leaders had to actually devise a counter to this spin with the “the west wants in” campaign and the “You don’t have to be a Liberal to be “Canadian” sloganeering…but they could have just as easily said “you don’t have to be an eastern urban liberal/socialist to be a Canadian…the west is full of Canadians as well and we are being demonized and treated as second class citizens because we disagree with Liberal propaganda and yellow partisan media”, and been just as correct.
    Still, Albertans take the name calling and political marginalization in stride and continue to be self supporting, prosperous and a bastion of laisez fair capitalism, libertarian populist democracy and a healthy civil society in which to raise a family….but we will not tolerate another malicious attack like we endured under the NEP from Ottawa again.
    I’ve had my nose to the wind and ear to the ground the last few days after the Borat Dion gaffe about “Alberta’s izzy mon-ey” and shutting down the tar sands,… the banter in even business circles is taking the referendum option into mainstream political discourse…there are status quo policy groups knocking around the idea that Alberta will have to have a contingency plan that swims out of normal status quo federalism perameters to counter the type of economic ruination Dion is musing about…court challenge is the first thing I hear but more and more moderates are looking at a referenda option and some form of autonomy if the courts fail to save us from a second liberal incursion into our resource economy.
    Dion has started the sovereignty-association option being talked about in modrate circles and the separation option in more right of center circles.
    I hope Canadians can see this guy is dangerous for national unity before it is too late…then again if we have to rely on the eastern media to relay that message, we may as well start referenda preperation now.

  26. After listening to this interview, I hope Mr. Harper calls an election as soon as possible. M.Dion’s English is atrocious, his ideas are scatterbrained and he cannot string a cogent thought together. What little I understood of him, he truly is a socialist who would happily damage his nation’s economy just to comply with some silly international environment accord.
    He would be mincemeat in a debate, and the more he speaks the more Canadians would run to the Cons.

  27. MacKenzie, you would not be alone in working to take Alberta from Canada. I know many, many people who will be with you. The word on the ground is that NEP2 will not be allowed to happen.There is already ground work being laid to get Alberta and the west out. Let Quebec go and take care of all their own problems that they have made with their socialist lifestyle.

  28. Jim C daid” There is a theory ciruculating among the Liberals that the NEP was not the cause of Alberta’s oilpatch’s demise…that it was simply a perfect storm of pricing and supply that would have resulted in the death of the business anyways.”
    >>The truth of the NEP can be found in the memoir musings of the NEP’s architect Marc LaLonde…In his book he stated that the Liberals were aware that Alberta was headed for a recession from oil patch slow down due to dropping oil prices and that would simply put caps on the production until prices rebound…. but if they had to shoulder a large tax (NEP) at the same time it would probably devastate the provincial oil industry and remove investment,technical personel, support industry and cripple the patch to the point where it would never recover or ever be as productive as it had been.
    To this Trudeau unemotionally quipped that it was not his intention to put NEP in place to gain control of Albera’s resource wealth, or even to lavish its tax revenues on blackmail patronage to a separatist Quebec, but to break the back of Alberta’s prime wealth engine which has kept them independent and unreliant on Ottawa patronage and influence…to bring Alberta in line as “a servant of Ottawa rather than an opponent”.
    This confimed LaLonde’s and other Trudeau confidants that Trudeau harboured an long-held innate hatred of the west and its independent spirit since he stormed out of the WEOC talks ( Western Economic Opportunities Conference ) when western ministers refused his regional bribe money in return for allowing Ottawa into their resource jurisdiction.
    In 1973 the western premiers stood united in rejecting PET’s WEO “bribe” and he responded by angrily banging his gavel to signal the end of the talks and declaring to the western premiers that this was a “one time offer” and that he would never return to the bargaining table with them ( the west)again…a veiled threat of the hostility from Ottawa to come and a warning shot of the 30 year Liberal war with the west and it’s stubborn independence of Ottawa’s socialist centralization agenda.
    We have witnessed this Trudeau-initiated Liberal party war to subdue western/Alberta resistance with destruction of the self sustaining economy which allows this independence of thought and policy…we see it revived in Dion…we see Dion using his dog to fabricate an excuse to impliment a second NEP with the same unstated agenda…breaking Alberta’s means to resist Ottawa kleptocratic socialism and centralist statism.
    ET said: “I am beginning to think that the Liberal focus on the Environment is a cover for the Real Agenda, which is Alberta’s money.”
    >>You would be correct in that reflection as it is linear with historic Alberta-hostile Liberal policy and validates what Dion has already said about controlling our constitutionally exclusive jurisdiction over natural and energy resources.
    The “crisis” of Kyoto will be the plea of necesity…Federal POGG power to invade exclusive provincial jurisdiction will be the constitutional instrument…. and NEP2(and an Alberta economic crash) will be the planned result.

  29. whats the french word for ‘vacuous’?
    some trite quebeqois slang would suffice as well.

  30. The amount of rhetoric the left is spewing over global warming is really starting to get out of hand. Chirac is now wanting a STRONG international enforcement body to police countries that do not comply (I just saw McGuinty echoing that plea on QP). The UN is now making its move to take control of global policy making. So far Canada, USA, and Australia are the last refuges of rational thought (but only barely so).
    If the Libs get in with this French citizen I will be giving as much of my money as possible to the Alberta separation party because if Alberta stays in Canada under the Libs we won’t have anything anyway.

  31. When the NEP came in the rig I was working on went to N. Dakota and I ended up on the streets of Calgary. I was one of the fortunate ones. When my UIC ran out my girlfriend supported me until I finally got a job as a low level clerk. I worked my way up from there and later married that sweet girl. We are both “Separatists on hold”. It’s a sad state when your Provincial political support depends on the federal party and their policies.

  32. Does anyone have a link to the transcript of the Editorial boards interview with Mr. Dion, I really would like to read it. The Afgan water comment has me totally confused no matter how hard I try to give the guy a break and re translate his comment.

  33. I’m trying to listen to the interview right now…the journalists were asking very clear important questions,he had a chance to define or present Lib policy,if such a concept exists.The rambling socio-psychobabble is too difficult to decipher.We have actually been spoiled by Stephen Harper’s clear concise comprehensive approach to the press.
    I’m amazed that the Lib leadership(Cretien and Goodale and company) gives him so many chances to blow it.
    Give him enough rope…do they(Libs) want him hung?

  34. He operates within words rather than reality.
    So there’s a reality beyond words. Care to put that into words? 🙂
    I don’t hold a brief for Dion, by the way–I’ll never vote for him–but this premature feasting on his flesh is a tad distasteful.

  35. Now now kids…that language he speaks,is known as “dionglish”…and I for one would love to see a psych.assesment on this fool!

  36. Dr Dawg…(welcome back)…this is no longer premature…How many chances does he get to commincate his ideas without ‘interpretation’?…and I don’t mean in the language sense…

  37. I’ll also echo the request to see the transcript of this. For 2 reasons. First, to highlight the mangling of the language, but also to see (dependent upon the scribe) how much the MSM translates from his language to English.

  38. Dr. Dawg said: “but this premature feasting on his flesh is a tad distasteful.”
    Dawg, not when his instruments threaten the entire economy of the West it isn’t. We’ve been there once already. WLM Redux and Bartinski aren’t peddling wares here, their descriptions, or variations, are fireside stories in the West.
    They gave Trudeau the finger on his train for a reason.
    Cheers,
    lance

  39. Dr. Dawg – yes, there most certainly is a reality outside of words – words are only a secondary reference to that reality. Whether or not I say a word, the atom doesn’t give a damn. It will still exist, the cell will still exist, the organism, the ecological biome – they will all still exist. This and that human will still exist, outside of words. The fact that our species is based around the referential symbolization of this reality, doesn’t nullify that reality.
    I’m not a postmodernist nominalist; I’m a realist.
    Dion deserves this critique. He put himself in the leadership and therefore, he has opened his opinions up for analysis. The fact that his opinions are empty, superficial etc – is reality. Not words.
    Actually, with regard to ‘water’ – It’s a well known fact that the control of fresh water is important in the ME (particularly observable in Israeli fights over water supplies with Jordan, with Lebanon).
    The Afghanistan War, however, is not and never was, to my knowledge about water. Just power over the population. It began as part of the ‘Cold War’ between the Soviets and the USA because it is geographically located at the cusp of Pakistan, Iran and China, ie, West, ME and East – nothing at all to do with water. The fresh water may be limited but there is an adequate amount from mountain run off and wells. I don’t think that Dion knows what he’s talking about.
    What also disturbs me about Dion, apart from his ignorance, arrogance, incomprehensibility, narcissism, mean-spirited name-calling, passing the buck whining – is his sense of entitlement. As leader, he expects to be Boss. He’s behaving as if he were the Full Professor and the population of Canada were all his undergrad students. He’s going to tell them what to do; he’s going to lay down the law (get Alberta’s money); he’s doing to exhort everyone to ‘do their best’- and ‘get on top of global warming, as if it were a college football game.
    As for an election debate – the Liberals won’t let him near one until/if his English is better. And if it isn’t, and even then, I suspect they’ll try to get out of the debates or transform them into simply reading set speeches.

  40. “As for an election debate – the Liberals won’t let him near one until/if his English is better. And if it isn’t, and even then, I suspect they’ll try to get out of the debates or transform them into simply reading set speeches.”
    I agree ET. Watch for Dion to have strep throat during the live debate or something to that effect. I think that’s where the Tories should stand fast. Give Dion time to get over his scheduled sickness and FORCE him to the live debate.
    Then english Canadians can see what Dion is all about.

  41. Dion suggests Bush’s election was illigimate, saying that:
    ‘floridians didn’t know how to count their votes’.
    How Prime Ministerial
    (starting at the 39:00 mark)
    In context of blaming the U.S. for Libs not meeting thier targets.

  42. If dion can tell Alberta how to manage the oilsands, does that mean PMSH can tell Quebec how it must spend its equalization money like-must be used for infrastructure, not one sent for social programs, day care, tuition, education etc. Many in quebec really believe that they are paying megatons of money to the greatest part of canada. They don’t understand it is the other way around. Finding out how difficult it is to understand dion, no wonder those poor people of quebec don’t know what is going on, and if they vote liberal again in large numbers, we will call them supporters of corrupt liberals, and they must be on the take also. The next election will, as I have said many time, the most important one and probably the last canadaian election in canada as we know it. Liberal win means Alberta will leave, PC or Bloc win, in Que means quebec will leave.
    Ontario will be left to pay all the bills for the maritimes. Sask, seeing their resourses are the next target, will join AB, as will BC.

  43. ‘we will cooperate with all of the parties [on the new environment initiative] even though this excercise is useless’
    cooperation with the parties is ‘useless’?
    (starting at about 55:40)

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