Brian Zinchuk: If Poilievre wins a massive majority, can we PLEASE build the Energy East Pipeline?
(I’m fairly certain Premier Moe is tired about me asking about this. I was still talking about it two years ago, which was four years after it was supposed to have been completed. But it’s worth a shot.)
UPDATE: It appears Premier Scott Moe agrees:
— Scott Moe (@PremierScottMoe) March 14, 2024
Prediction, the answer will be no. Even were PP to win, and a majority at that, an excuse would be created as to why he really, really wanted to, but was being blocked by some group or another. The MSM would tell us about legal challenges, and how slowly and arduous the legal system is in Canada when involving multiple jurisdictions, and then the case would be slow-walked up to the Supreme Court if necessary.
All while the supposedly conservative gov’t ran out the clock.
PP and the CINOs are controlled opposition – with the same people running the show as during Juthtin’s tenure. Elections are like picking which actors to be in movies. No matter what you’d decide, the same producers, directors, and executives show up to the same jobs before and after. With the same agenda – just different spin depending on which actors are (s)elected.
It will be blocked by Irving Oil.
Not happening. The Port of Montreal is far too important to organized crime in Quebec. A major income source is oil moved in from dictatorships by ships. It’s a lot harder to skim profit off a pipeline from the west and extort Saskatchewanians.
That is my view of how the entire world is run – and has been for centuries. Certain families who rule us “getting theirs” while maintaining a thin veneer of freedom for others – in our case “democracy”.
When in reality, we are all tax slaves. And when it suits their agenda, actual slaves. If they deem it, we will get injected with poison. We will go off to war and die. We will have our children indoctrinated with sexual perversion. We will be force-moved to new industries using moronic anti-scientific lies like AGW. Etc.
But clinging to the belief of freedom keeps the people from revolting, despite every indication that we aren’t free. And have never been.
False hope is what keeps us where we are, and for many that is the rigged game of (s)elections.
Not so, Justin. Most of the Montreal oil refineries have closed down over the past several decades. The largest one still operating is the Suncor facility at 137,000 bpd. The real problem is the Irving Oil Corporation. Its oil facility in Saint John has a capacity of more than 300,000 bpd. Its the principal supplier of petroleum products to Quebec and Atlantic Canada. It is wholly dependent on imported crude oil from Venezuela or the Middle East.
And the Irvings own the province of New Brunswick, which means they own an essential voting block of the federal Liberals.
My response to you keeps disappearing. Gremlins in the system?
Perhaps. I had a few responses disappear over the last few days as well.
Lets say that on day one, the government passes legislation repealing the trudeau anti-pipeline act, it still has to go through the senate that is full of true believer senators from the same party that passed the trudeau anti-pipeline act in the first place. After that, the application is going to be stymied by the ideologues infesting the various “climate change department”, followed by years in the courts, where liberal judges will block it, on the basis of missing some little thing or other.
And even if it does get through that, there is nothing stopping the next government from shutting it down upon taking power.
I doubt any private companies will want try to navigate Canada’s gauntlet of regulations to build pipelines going east of Saskatchewan or west of Alberta. The process and planning takes more than a decade, costs hundreds of millions of dollars and can be blocked at the last stage at the whim of Ottawa politicians and bureaucrats. Building pipelines going south is not as onerous but, as keystone showed, it’s not that much easier.
If Alberta and Saskatchewan want to increase oil and gas production, they’d probably be better off using the oil and gas products within the two provinces. They could promote more petrochemical industries to produce plastics, fertilizers, synthetic fabrics, pharmaceutical products, etc.
The standard argument is that in a globalized economy it’s not cost effective to produce those products where labor costs are high like Canada. But, the pipeline bottleneck combined with high oil and gas production potential might require creative solutions…automation to lower labor costs, guarantees of low provincial taxes. If you add in global supply chain instability and the louder beating of war drums, Alberta and Saskatchewan could become an primary energy production and secondary petroleum product powerhouse.
Just like last time, Irving Oil will fight Canada East to the bitter end over every metre. That’s the real opposition.
Your suggestiong of more value-added industry in Alberta-Saskatchewan is a good one. It’s what these provinces should have been doing all along. buy 1. crowded out of market by production from US, and, 2. laziness on the provincial governments’ part.
Start charging a tariff on all imported oil that arrives by ship or by pipeline to the Eastern provinces. About a 100% tariff would be my suggestion.
Further, no tanker or any ship used to transport hydrocarbons must have a certificate of safety, issued by the Canadian Oil Industry, after a strict inspection.
Largely prohibited by WTO rules binding Canada. Try to implement the tariffs and you will be sued by foreign competition. And they will win the lawsuit just as they have in the past.
Canadian oil industry has no legal basis to inspect shipments of anything. It has no power to issue certificates of safety of any kind.
If Michigan’s Whitmer manages to get Line 5 shut down, Energy East will suddenly look real attractive to Ontario and Quebec. They need to freeze, pay big bucks for groceries, and walk to work before they’ll understand.
Just separate already. Or is that inciting genocide?