Pierre Poilievre wins leadership review with 87.4% approval, Rosemary Barton hardest hit.
Poilievre waltzed into that redneck rodeo town and the whole room of racist trucker-hat-wearing western deplorables lost their minds cheering like he just invented beer or something. He crushed that leadership review with 87% or whatever the hell it was, the party faithful slobbering all over him, screaming like it’s the second coming. Pathetic.
That was the easy part. But the rest of Canada? Please. These un-Canadian clowns don’t speak for the country—they’re just the loudmouth Maple MAGA fringe who love Donald Trump and think affordability means more oil subsidies. He still hasn’t convinced normal people he’s fit to run anything bigger than a backyard BBQ. Hammered the same tired lines about prices and taxes, sure, but dodged anything real that might scare off his adoring hicks.
They say more details are coming, he’s gonna tour and talk. Yeah, sure he is. If he wants anyone outside that echo chamber to take him seriously as PM material, he better start sounding like he wants pandas from Beijing instead of pandering to those yahoos. God, it makes me sick—he was supposed to crash and burn, and instead these idiots propped him right back up.
OK, so I took liberties.

“ like he just invented beer or something “ lol
What I want to know is … If Pierre and the Conservatives win a majority in the next election, Will Alberta continue to Exit Canada or will they pause to see if Pierre can make it worth staying in the country.
I believe they will continue to push to leave, but may have fewer conservative supporters which will make the separation much more difficult.
Well, she’s right about one thing: he’s going to have to figure out a way to deal with Trump. It would have to start with a phone call, and that would take a degree of courage that he quite probably doesn’t have.
Jamie
“degree of courage that he quite probably doesn’t have.”
Maybe changer yer name to Joe King?
PeePee’s nads are in some bulldykes purse, for her snack time!
How quaint of this hate-monger at the CBC … she thinks Communist China is all about cute-faced furry Pandas. She evidently knows nothing about the ChiCom dragons?
So according to Rosemary, conservative Canadians are ‘un-Canadian’. Who cares what Rosemary says, since she works for the mother-corp., except as a measure of what my acquaintances think, without have to ask them.
Typical Canadian media response. It is nice to see the Conservatives are still united around Poilievre. I think the Conservatives have good policy proposals for Canada. Unfortunately, having great policies and even getting elected really doesn’t change anything in Canada. Harper had great policies, got elected and enacted those policies. Canada was doing great. Then what happened? Canadian voters elected Trudeau and here we are, 10 years later, an economic disaster and cautionary tale about the effects of a decade of bad governance.
A Conservative led Canada still has a terrible constitution, an unrepresentative and unequal HoC and Senate, unfair equalization system, dysfunctional courts, a political need to cater to Quebec and Ontario, a biased media etc. At best, maybe they will get a pipeline built and a temporary rollback of anti-prairie economic policies (unless the courts and senate block them). Then, few years later, the rest of Canada votes the Liberals back into power and all the bad policies and legislation that harms Alberta and Saskatchewan returns with a vengeance
As much as I like the Conservatives, Canada is not capable of the meaningful changes that Alberta and Saskatchewan require because of Canada’s basic structural flaws and voter demographic realities.
“political need to cater to Quebec and Ontario,”
Um LC, that’s a statistical reality that becomes a political reality, thought you once said you were good at math. The problem with conservatives is hilited in here constantly, some just want to force their religious views on the rest, which drives moderate liberal supports away, alienates some conservatives and centrists.
I did the math a couple decades ago. It’s why I decided independence is the only option. The math and political structure says that there’s no chance that Alberta and Saskatchewan will ever get a fair deal within Canada. We’d be better off as friendly neighbors who control our own economic future than provinces in Canada who need to constantly fight a losing battle to get basic fairness.
PERFECTLY stated……………and it’s ALL TRUE……….INDEPENDENT ALBERTA/SASKATCHEWAN is the only way to go for sure…(:
Don’t forget dealing with the unelected and unaccountable Ottawa bureaucrats. Pearson turned the civil service into a powerful fourth branch of government.
Yep, having a federal Liberal government or a Conservative government in Canada makes little difference for Alberta and Saskatchewan. The entire governing, bureaucratic and legal structure makes permanent, meaningful reforms impossible. Like I said, at best we’ll get a temporary pause when conservatives are in power.
The Canadian system is set up in such a way that it’s easier and more effective to become independent nations than to reform the existing system to make it fair for Alberta and Saskatchewan.
The political class in the rest of Canada have, in their own way, admitted that there is no way to correct the unfairness. The reason that the prairie independence movement is met with anger, insults and threats is because the Canadian political class has no solutuon to fix the Alberta and Saskatchewan independence problem. They can’t provide a positive compelling case to stay in Canada because there are none. A Quebec style deal isn’t politically or economically possible.
I just sent this message to @RosieBarton on X:
Poor, poor Lil’ Rosie, how are you coping, dear? Is it okay that people in a Western Canadian province “dared” disagree with your views and those of your Laurentian Elite paymasters?!
Can I make a public prediction here? In the coming months, as the Alberta Independence movement takes hold, you will pull out your special “Super Duper Extra Inflammatory Rhetoric” red book and regularly use the invectives therein to describe the people of Alberta who feel used and betrayed by your BFFs in Ottawa.
You will start off calling them rednecks and uneducated. Then you will turn it up a few notches and switch to racists, Far Right, and selfish bigots. When that doesn’t work, you’ll turn it up further and go with white supremacists, traitors, and Nazis.
The playbook you are paid to follow is clear. Let’s see how accurate my predictions are. Millions will be watching you, Rosie, well … maybe tens of thousands.
The irony of the liberal playbook is it validates every argument Alberta patriots express in favour of being independent from Ottawa.
Every time she decides to slag invective at Alberta or the western provinces in general will push more folks in the west to become another member of the fringe minority/Alberta traitors.
Robert
” your BFFs in Ottawa.”
Suger dadies would be more accurate!
Robert … you left off defcon 1 of her vile invectives … smearing Canadian conservatives as Trump cucks … sitting by watching as Trump has his way with dear Canada
In toxic relationships the abuser constantly puts down, ridicules and gaslights the abused.
When an abuser threatens to leave, there is much begging for it to stay.
When the abused thinks about leaving, the abuser triples down on the ridiculing and gaslighting.
The “my Canada includes Québec” crowd is the same crowd that belittles the West.
Excellent analogy, Mike! No disagreement on anything you said.
Question though: Putting yourself in the mind of a “my Canada includes Québec” person, what do you believe is the thought process for them to show love to Québecers but disdain to Albertans? I’m clearly referring to someone who lives in neither of these 2 provinces. What’s the difference? In other words, why beg Québec to stay but condemn Alberta for wanting to leave?
The CBC is THE reason I gave up on the party I supported and worked for for decades.
Harper’s embarrassing surrender and THE FACT that the Conservative Party is too weak, feckless, cowardly and stupid squared to spike the CBC dead shows the stark difference between the Liberals and Conservatives.
Trump, a former Democrat, has more Conservatism in his nutty little finger than the entire Canadian Conservative Party. To say nothing of the balls to actually do the right things.
Trump must laugh his head off at the girly, quasi-men leading Canada right into his arms.
Liberals win corruptly with a stacked deck, Conservatives always lose because they truly are the Stupid Party.
Kill the CBC, dummies!
Barton is a fat pig.
With piggy and her network’s help, the Liberal agit-prop machine has successfully made the Cons into the Convoy Party – they don’t represent “Canada and Canadian values” – and voting for them a treasonous act.
Ask your average eastern Elbows Up Boomer, especially a Mewling Quim, but a Nutless Coward will work, and they’ll tell you.
But the Cons are done for me.
True conservatism in Canada will soon be outlawed.
Fat pigs take exception to the insinuation they have any similarities to Barton
Ham Sammy agrees with me. See below.
And if RM ended up on a spit, she’s be the Poster Girl for Long Pig BBQ’s.
Pierre Poilievre, what other Conservative has a real shot at beating Carney?
https://edmontonjournal.com/opinion/columnists/bell-pierre-poilievre-fights-for-his-conservative-leadership/wcm/0eb0de30-7995-43c9-9160-5eea7de5a665
What conservatives? There are none.
Kate
From now on if I need a translation of liberal word salad into normal vernacular you will be my go to source.
Does anyone know if the vote was open or secret?
Because liberals have for years done a pretty good job of faking conservatism to burrow into conservative parties for the purpose of wrecking them. Jason Kenney for example.
I’m not certain the 12+% who voted against PP are liberal moles, but they should for sure be watched.
Past leadership reviews, for example when Candace Bergen was elected as interm leader prior to Pierre Poilievre’s election, it was by secret ballot, and counting of ballots was very much above board, with scrutneers viewing.
I really do not like secret ballots in a political party. If one has not the courage to reveal one’s position one should not be a delegate in a party process.
The names of those who voted against PP should be known and they should repeatedly be scrutinized and asked to justify their positions.
Yes, that may be uncomfortable for them but that’s the price to keep the liberal moles out.
Poilievre was on track to become the next PM and then Trump happened. It’s been a catastrophe for him.
Even if (when) Carney’s approval rating falls, the Liberals’ standard ploy of comparing the Conservative leader to Republicans (e.g., “Maple MAGA”) will have particular impact, and make Poilievre’s task even more difficult.
Poilievre’s approach should be this: act like a conservative, not like a far-right populist. But I figure he already knows this.
Poilievre’s approach should be this: act like a conservative, not like just another center-left asshole that the Lieberals can steal platform planks from with impunity.
FTFY…
You have it wrong. Poilievre is a centre-right asshole, not a centre-left asshole.
But you’re right about one thing. The reason Carney is so successful right now is that he HAS been acting like Poilievre, at least on the economics and foreign-relations file. This has been popular with most Canadians, but disconcerting for some Liberals, who prefer the Trudeau version of the party:
https://www.ipolitics.ca/2025/12/02/they-just-dont-get-it-some-trudeau-era-liberal-mps-struggling-to-adjust-to-carneys-leadership-say-sources/
The same ministers that sht the bed for ten years are still ministers in different departments. Carney is just hiding (barely at that) that he’s just as eco nutty and prog like as the Liberals that are miffed.
Your not exactly wrong , but you’d be more correct pointing out Carney and his devotion to building anything worth being proud of again, is an illusion people should easily see. The Modern Liberal plan has worked and being willfully blind to consequence, it could be where we’re at is the far end of the pendulum and it just may stick there until even the best of lies and coercion doesn’t cut it any longer. Or Canadians will be happy for scraps.
About 10 out of 28 ministers are holdovers from the Trudeau era. Critically, Guilbealt is out, the minister who did the most to eviscerate the Canadian economy. By my reckoning, the holdovers are…
Joly, Leblanc, Champagne, Anand, Hajdu, Miller, Fraser, Anandasangaree, Valdez, MacKinnon
Wrong, LIEberal Rat.
Carney has been FAKING it, meanwhile, LIEberal policies continue as they have been for the last 10+ years. Bought and paid for MSM propaganda ensures just enough ElBoWZoS, yourself included, continue to be fooled by shiny things, that are just a mirage.
Carney’s 80+Billion deficit is ALL LIBERAL, ALL THE TIME.
No one buys your bullshit, Rat.
There we go. I thought this discussion was too polite and civil.
There wouldn’t be any ” far – right , populists ” if Canada had some real Conservatives.
For one they could have laid out where this country was headed fifteen years ago .
You sound like a Classic – Liberal I had the privilege to prune with for a couple springs he used to foam at the mouth over Trump . He hated populism as much as you, and had faith in Carney. But it was telling when I seen him at the Christmas party this year and I smiled and asked what he thought about things ,he wouldn’t talk about it. Which is a shame because we had such good conversations.
If Pierre is going to fling Spit balls South like Carney all is lost.
There are people that whisper they’re Conservative now , just like the unvaxed during COVID because the other side is rabid, because they have been hoodwinked , and are lost. I’ll probably vote for Pierre , but it isn’t a given.
And I’ll put money on Conservative thought going the way of the dodo if Carney gets a majority . In a way the globalists are on the ropes for the right reasons , and they need to be put down for the count.
Although this site seems to overwhelming support Trump, the number of Trump supporters in Canada is about one in six. And that’s not going to change soon. You’re not going to see a swell of popular support for Trump in Canada.
Which means any party that embraces Trump’s politics (whatever the hell that is) is doomed to the hinterlands. They might get a few seat, but would probably struggle to achieve official party status. We don’t even have to speculate on that. The People’s Party of Canada has demonstrated it.
So, about 17% of us have it correct. Probably about the same number that had The Coof figgered out from the start, too.
Well everyone thinks their brand of politics is the One True Religion. They’re all wrong. Mine is.
Again I’ll say it once again .Trump isn’t the problem, he is now.
We made it so.
Net Zero, diversity and inclusion, we let progs make up-down, black-white etc.
And now it’s Trump fault nope not in the least.
I know how the herd thinks I work in it every day, in the big city. That’s been declining more every year.
I don’t expect the herd to change much until the real misery hits. And when it does and if it’s delivered by a higher stronger power I know who to blame .
The willfully blind.
After all Trump might be a bull in a China shop , but maybe he’s the only one with some common sense if so no wonder so many Canadians are pi–ed they forgot what that is.
Sorry, but an American president who threatens 100% tariffs on all Canadian imports because it entered into a rather modest trade deal with China is a problem. This doesn’t mean Canada hasn’t hurt itself over the last ten years. Both can be true at once.
“Far right populist” … it warms my heart when people like Piggy Barton and KM hurl dehumanizing invectives at me. I guess “racist”, and “natzi” are losing their effectiveness.
Okay, describe Trump’s political ideology to me. “Conservative” doesn’t work. Conservatives in the modern era don’t slap tariffs on everything that moves.
Conservatives in the modern era don’t take unfair trade barriers and punishing tariffs from so-called “Free Trading” partners … sitting down.
There, I fixed it for you.
All nations have some unfair trade barriers, the US among them. The idea of the US being victimized by Canada in trade is laughable. The biggest trade barriers between the two countries in the last decade have been American tariffs on Canadian lumber, steel, and aluminium.
If it weren’t for bitumen oil — the refining of which makes the US tons of money and which they subsequently sell on world markets — Canada would have a trade deficit with the US.
Ah, don’t stop believing, as the song says.
My President isn’t a conservative (thank God! we can do without more Bush Romney nefariousness). He also isn’t a liberal (praise Christ our Lord! we can do without more Clinton Obama nerariousness). And I don’t think he even takes the libertarians seriously (which nobody should).
Let’s call him what he is: a realist. And he isn’t your President, so don’t expect him to do deals that don’t benefit the U.S. (and hitting your country between the eyes with tariffs doesn’t seem to be hurting us; hurting you, perhaps — but caring about Canada isn’t his job).
Old rules are over sweetheart; I said as much months ago (in fact, I believe to you); this is the ‘new world order’, remember?
The US is the most powerful nation on earth, both militarily and economically, and it’s not even close. In fact, Trump seems to think the US is so powerful that it can do whatever it wants, and there’s nothing anyone else can do. The US doesn’t need allies and trading partners. It can use coercion.
But coercion is resented, and even middle powers have a thousand ways to deflect it. As a result, the US is in the process of shedding its influence in the world. It’s contracting into itself.
Many Trump supporters claim that’s what they want. Even Trump sometimes claims this. But he’s going to get increasingly angry as the US’s former friends and trading partners stop being automatically co-operative, and start treating the US as something to be worked around.
“… contracting into itself …”
Ha! Projection much? The EU and Canada are contracting into themselves … by choice! … Net ZEROing themselves into utter irrelevance. What will you mediocre powers be selling to each other? Cheese and Maple syrup? Sooooo green … soooo good
Choice. *SNORT*
Almost no in Canada was talking about diversifying trade away from the US until Trump made it clear that he didn’t want Canadians goods anymore.
Keep in mind, anyone not to the left of Mao Tse Tung is deemed a far-right extremist. I hear so many commies these days calling themselves “moderates” or “centrists” it’s laughable.
By the same token, moderate classic-liberal conservatives who would not have raised eyebrows on this site ten years ago inevitably get called socialist or communist by Trump supporters.
Red Tories raised some ire here , strangely they are mostly silent now.
Maybe they have seen the light?
Darling, you’ve gone and confused that Frankenstein monster that people have been psyoped into believing was “conservatism” for the past 40-50 odd years is the actual thing (heh, kinda like how Trotsky-ism is what a ‘liberal’ has become).
Don’t worry; you aren’t alone.
As opposed to that incoherent mishmash of impulses that Trump brings to the table. But fine, lets go with “Reaganite conservative”.
Darling.
https://theconversation.com/reagan-wouldnt-recognize-trump-style-conservatism-a-look-at-how-the-gop-has-changed-213971
Dear KM … Reagan promised to shrink the Federal govt. … but instead … made it bigger. Promises made, promises failed.
Until Trump. If not for FAKE conservatives like Paul Ryan, John McCain, and Mitch McConnell … among others … Trump would have kicked ass in 2017/18. Instead … these FRAUD conservatives planned to kneecap Trump and wait him out as they did all in their power to separate Trump from his base. Didn’t work. Won’t work again. Multiple burned … forever shy of the liars.
Democrats controlled the House of Representatives throughout Reagan’s tenure, and that’s who holds the purse strings in the American system.
Even with a Republican House, Trump isn’t much of a fiscal conservative. US government debt is way out of control. In fact, it’s getting dangerous.
Rosemary Barton is one of those sows that “talked to her doctor to see if Ozempic was right for” her…the sow forgot that she also needs to employ an ounce of self control as well to put down the pulled pork sandwiches and bonbons between takes.
Oh well, I guess she can try Wegovy next.
She’s a cannibal!
More like a cannonball. A very large, corpulent one…
Always whining and always lashing out. A “Wah! Bash!” cannonball…
That the conservatives,or so called members of our uni-party,have to cater to Ontario and Quebec to be elected is obvious.
So is the need for western separation.
Money talks.
And when we follow the money,the West will never be treated as an equal partner.
The majority of voters in Can Ahh Duh have chosen..
Chosen consistently to reward politicians who rob Peter to pay Paul.
This power to vote yourself someone else’s money is ingrained in Eastern Politics..
Basic corruption so deep as to be considered unremarkable.
The comedy of flaring independence talk,lies in the hypocrisy and contradiction demonstrated by those who would rule over us.
Separation by West?= BAD.
Separate Quebec?=Oh OK.
Conservatives = USA.
Liberals= Can Ahh Duh.
Pablum for idiots.
The idea that sane citizens can see the bankruptcy of Canada,can calculate the costs they face and might seek to pick another path?
Inconceivable!
That Western tax payers are tired of paying for “service” we never see.
Tired of scolding nags who drain our wealth.
Our Eastern Comrades love the status quo…Why?
Are they really that shortsighted and greedy?
Who knows?
And why should we care?
So the federal conservatives have reelected their leader?
Good luck to them.
If Pierre has any leadership skills or the beginnings of becoming a Statesman..now is the time.
Can he “save Canada”?
Har har.
You cannot help people who will not help themselves.
A simple truth that Western Citizens have finally embraced.
No one can save us.
No one can deliver stable society.
No one can create a better future.
Either we do the work or nothing gets done.
Only informed citizens , active in their own communities can.
Inside these boundaries,these ideals shall be the basis of our laws…
The base block of any nation.
Canada threw that away.
I am not leaving Canada,Canada died.
Can Ahh Duh is not a nation,nor is it a state I can support.
Thuggery,Kleptocracy and Idiocy are not worthy of support.
But very much worthy of destruction.
What could those in Ottawa do,to change Alberta’s view?
What could a “Conservative Government” do?
Repeal 6 decades of stupid laws?
Repeal endless rule and regulation?
Fire the arrogant and incompetent by the thousands?
Stop their stealing?
Treat national debt as the treason it is?
Stop being the parasitic Overload?
Yeah Right.
Conservative sing the same song..”We can manage the stealing better than our Liberal comrades”.
Never “Stop the stealing”.
On top of the self serving hypocrisy,there lies this idiocy.
One Trudeau was possibly a mistake..
One that cost the country decades of stagnation.
Two?
The election of Justine?
No mistake.
Eastern malice..
As was evident in every federal action since.
The crab bucket of the east is not going to change,until they starve.
Politicians that take away from Peter to lavish on Paul will always have Paul’s unconditional support.
I think it’s worth noting**
While the msm reported he had strong support ,the 87.4% support figures were absent in the reports I saw.
He didn’t boot 2 candidates to achieve it.
He didn’t disregard about 200,000 party members to do it.
However , I believe it is highly unlikley he will be PM.
We still need a new country.
AC/DC sang about her decades ago:
Wanna tell you a story
‘Bout a woman I know
Ah, come to lovin’
She steals the show
She ain’t exactly pretty
Ain’t exactly small
Forty-two, thirty-nine, fifty-six, you could say she’s got it all
Probably the reselection of PP is the Best thing for Alberta independence and Canada as a partial whole.
I lump defunding CBC in with defunding MSM. PP will not commit to defunding CBC = Lost vote.
“I’m Rosemary Barton, CBC’s Chief Political Correspondent.”
Well of course you are; you fat cow.
Rosemary attempts to dismiss PP with the snide “sure, he has all these great policies, but can he handle Trump? After all, Carney has done so well at that on the world stage.”
No, Rosemary…the man who claimed to be the Trump whisperer and Great Negotiator has utterly failed at dealing with Trump.
True, Carney has played to the TDS CBC crowd here and at Davos, but our trade situation is now worse than it was a year ago.
Carney’s dismissive “Who cares?” and “That’s a boring question” show that despite Rosemary and others pretending Carney is some sort of statesman…..Carney has terribly mismanaged our relationship with the US and with Trump.
She is just throwing that out there because she is unable to give PP credit without some caveat.
Sorry Rosie….there is no way PP could do worse than Carney on the Trump file. Your hero has done nothing but fail in that account since Day 1. And Canada is suffering, and will suffer more, because of it.
But why should you care? Your position as Interpreter of All Things is secure.
Western Canada has always had its lemmings. Label someone a “conservative” and they all yap like trained seals. Short memories. PP sounds just like Mulroney with his memorized fiscal rants, the lemmings fall into line. Then Manning and the lemmings followed into oblivion. Then Harper and the lemmings ignored all his liberal appointments to the senate… Indirectly.
Popularity and truth have always struggled with each other.
“OK, so I took liberties. ”
Not that I noticed, Kate. ~:D A valid transcription indeed.
A great little bit of political theatre, but it changes nothing for the future of Canada. Re-electing the same Liberal-Lite coward who has failed utterly in the last few years to represent ‘conservatism’ in this country will only hasten the death of it.
“It’s been very hard for Poilievre to punch through – … given the space Prime Minister Mark Carney has taken up on the world stage”
Well, there’s something I agree with.
That’s ALL Carney has done on the world stage – take up space.