While some aboriginal communities welcome the prospect of roads and mines in the so-called Ring of Fire zone in Ontario, some clearly don’t. They prefer to live in a “pristine” wilderness that for some reason is not pristine enough to provide clean drinking water for thirty years.
The province has released a Ring of Fire ad that uses Ford’s slogan from the 2025 election: “Protect Ontario” and makes a sales pitch on development. “What about protect Neskantaga?” Marcus Moonias says. “I’m so mad about it.”
“I almost threw my television at the wall,” he says about the commercial.
Bigger dreams are starting to enter Mamakwa’s mind. He thinks one day a First Nation political party could hold the balance of power in Ottawa, like a Bloc Québécois of the north.
“I almost threw my television at the wall,” he says about the commercial.
Now hold on there buck…are you saying you can pick up a 100 inch by yourself?
“Local water operator” – Thanks for the morning chuckle.
Please first nations, do continue to slow things past their already glacial pace. Every delay is another nail in this diseased shithole that needs MAID.
I identify as one of the Clovis People tribes and want natives to acknowledge that they stole my land.
As a Clovis Peoplekind I support the pipelines.
If we put VLTs and a small casino room in all of the pumping stations on the pipeline would that boost native support for the projects?
Or just announce a 15OO km long ‘casino’ project that carries oil and gas?
Why would they throw an indigenous monkey wrench into a system of institutionally leftist, suicidal empaths that are essentially indigenous dhimmis already. They just haven’t worked out how to continue living off the backs of taxpayers after (taxpayer’s) awakening to complete serfdom with all property held in collective and competing bands under welfare-fattened nobility.
Any future conservative government must investigate financing of charities and tribes by foreign NGOs and enviro groups. Charities must perform charitable works; tribes and NGOs must not accept foreign money or perform political agitation.
Robert, I can’t think of a single NGO that doesn’t exist to directly or indirectly influence political decision making. Therefore all foreign funding constitutes foreign political interference. Charities would have to not accept tax dollars to qualify as non-political. Tribes consider themselves governments on the same level as the Crown (now superior to the Crown). It’s why their nobility are insulted to have to deal with mere citizens or government functionaries. Good luck finding an electable party, lawyer, or Judge that will stand up to the chiefs and tell them they can’t accept foreign funding. Suicidal empathy rules.
Every one of the treaties signed by the Tribals includes some form of this language:
“The Plain and Wood Cree Tribes of Indians, and all other the Indians inhabiting the district hereinafter described and defined, do hereby cede, release, surrender and yield up to the Government of the Dominion of Canada, for Her Majesty the Queen and Her successors forever, all their rights, titles and privileges, whatsoever, to the lands included within the following limits,…”
and yet the lunatic judges promoted by the liberals have decided that forever doesn’t apply any more.
“They prefer to live in a “pristine” wilderness that for some reason is not pristine enough to provide clean drinking water for thirty years.”
I spent a span of four years working in the bush for the Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources in the Wawa and Thunder Bay areas and the only water my partner and I drank when in the bush was lake and river water.
I even drank water straight out of Lake Superior.
Which begs the question….What did they do for water before the white man arrived.
They don’t conform….cause they don’t have to.
As is typical of the mainstream media, they only ever briefly mention boil water advisories without delving further into it. It’s as if the boil water thing was just an unalterable fact of a colonial existence.
The American Indian is one of the lowest IQ groups of people on Earth, even more than sub-Saharan Africans, on top of a near 100% pathological rate of alcoholism.
I’ll drink to that.
“But it’s curious that Native Americans should have a lower verbal IQ than unmixed black Americans (85 vs 79) and much lower than East Asians (102 vs 79).”
From here:
https://pumpkinperson.com/2023/05/10/the-east-asian-vs-native-american-iq-gap/comment-page-1/
Thank goodness we only have Canadian Indians up here. Smart as whips, sober and tolerant.
Now that made me laugh.
Just as Climate Change is an unsolvable problem (we would have to give up our energy use), providing clean electricity to remote First Nations is also an unsolvable problem. Once you get past the $4.5 billion (the government is of course famous for accurate cost projections) initial investment, you have the ongoing maintenance of a transmission line over 400 km long to less than 2,000 people forever. And what happens when the line fails. You need back-up (think diesel generators on stand-by).
Mining in the Ring of Fire provides the illusion that there is a reason to spend so much money on so few people. As most mining people know the majority of value for the in-situ metal value is in the chromite which would need to be direct shipped by rail. Is there an estimate for rail, road and transmission line into the Ring of Fire?
“Is there an estimate for rail, road and transmission line into the Ring of Fire?” Easy answers to actually two questions. 1. Estimate on how much, answer who cares? Estimate on how long, answer long enough to not matter, TG.
Buh Bye Soviet canukistan, you are done. No shithole ever deserved sewage treatment more.
I got some chromium put into my hip yesterday. Prolly from Chinah.
Chinese chromium has an 18 month guarantee before it turns to chrome-painted pig iron. That’s why you get a free can of WD-40.
Excellent point. I often wondered why, if mining in the far north was so lucrative, why said mines weren’t already commonplace. But running a railway on permafrost makes for a very expensive picnic, as anyone familiar with the Hudson’s Bay railway will tell you. It’s doubtful that the mine will pay if you have to haul the proceeds out by truck either. Perhaps you could process on site, but then smelters require enormous amounts of electricity.
You can’t process “direct-ship” chromite on-site as it needs to be 30% to make it commercially viable out of the ground. How can you concentrate 30% ore economically? Smelters require skilled personnel as well as gobs of electricity. In the Ring, the nickel and copper will be concentrated on-site in a mill and then shipped by truck to a rail facility in Nakina (which ironically has been removed). But the chromite (which represents most of the in-situ value of the ore in the Ring) needs to be shipped by rail.
There are 3 cost structures in a remote mine. Operating costs, capital costs and infrastructure costs (being simple here). To mine 30% chromite and/or 1.75% nickel is not the problem. Getting it somewhere is a big problem and you need infrastructure in place or your capital costs (mine, mill, housing) go through the roof. To put in a 400 km road, rail and transmission line from Nakina to Webequie (and surrounding FN reserves) will cost billions. They say $4.5 billion but we know it is $9.0 billion on a reasonable day. The nickel mine (20 Mt of 1.75% Ni) represents about $5-$6 billion of nickel. Assuming 50% operating costs the nickel mine would not pay for 1/3 of the infrastructure. A big part of the sale (to the public) is the chromite but there is no buyer for it at present. How do you make the numbers work other than the provincial government paying the entire cost? Also, the government mentions 70,000 jobs (dreaming big). The Liberals just spent $500 million on a steel plant in Sault Ste. Marie which is laying off 1,000 workers. The Chinese are subsidizing both mining and processing of metals because they don’t want us making our own stuff. They want to sell us finished products like Buddy’s hip replacement. The head-winds are strong. Not only will the government have to pay for the infrastructure, they will have to guarantee a minimum price for the processed materials, subsidize the railway to get these products to a place like the Sault, Sudbury or Timmins and then guarantee minimum orders through subsidies to battery plants and car makers. Is everyone ready for that?
For the rail line, you do the same thing that one of the plans for the high speed rail considered; Put everything on pylons drilled into the rock deep below. Never mind that it’s cost prohibitive.
The map shows only sporadic permafrost to James Bay. With railways you just have to regrade the ballast periodically. They have machines to do that. The ties are floating on gravel.
In order to keep their forests pristine, they should get rid of all white man’s juju (technology).
“They prefer to live in a “pristine” wilderness that for some reason is not pristine enough to provide clean drinking water for thirty years.”
Oh, my ghod. Don’t get me started.
Once upon a time, these guys had a legit complaint about the rest of us treating them bad. 40 years ago.
But now? This is all graft, all the time.
Defund and dismantle the Ministry of Indian Affairs, repeal the Indian Act or whatever circumlocution they call it these days, end the reserves. “Hi, you’re a Canadian citizen now, same as the rest of us, we offer our condolences. Enjoy your income tax.”
Or, make them genuine independent nations. “Hi, you’re independent now. Canada wishes you well, have a nice life.”
I’m good either way, honestly.
Ignorant idiots.
I put up some powerlines in Northern Ontario in the late ’80’s – it hooked up a reserve to the grid, but at least it was less than 20 miles worth.
I wouldn’t give them the steam of my piss.
If their prosperity comes from the land, so be it.
One of the issues with remote First Nations is the rapid population growth. Imagine what will happen when there are roads and electricity into these remote settlements – into areas with no industries to support the infrastructure. As the FN will not be supporting the infrastructure it [the money] will have to come from the provincial and federal governments. Same for fresh water. It’s not the cost of the infrastructure that will crush us but rather the annual maintenance. But don’t worry. We deserve it.
150 years ago these bush reserves had about 100 Indians each. Now they are in the thousands. Living off the land, eating weasel nuts, their population would still be 100. It was all caused by whitie, stopping Indian deaths, thus creating overpopulation.
Traditional rights?
Traditional methods.
Why for are these Chiefs,bitching about diesel powered generators?
They want them traditional energy sources,so superior to what the “Settlers” brought them.
The Canadian Apartheid system..we should all be so proud.
The West can’t separate fast enough.
There are places where promises of Jobs, Jobs, Jobs hold less than zero allure.
Offering FN jobs in the mining industry is ridiculous. Try walking into a bar in Southern Ontario and offering high paying jobs in a remote mine. Almost everyone will take a pass. On the reserves, if you have money, you are a target to everyone else who have nothing. Jobs don’t mean a lot in a remote native village where everything is paid for by the Federal Government. Even if you took a job where could you spend your money? It doesn’t work. Economic incentives for remote FN villages doesn’t work unless it’s a royalty. People don’t want to leave their families. Call them lazy if you will, but you would come to the same conclusion, to go hunting, or fishing, or play a video game rather than a tough job job in the mining industry that paid you money you couldn’t use – unless you moved away from your village, which many of them end up doing.
Jamie
Well, if you put up a liquor and beer store, you may need some one to run them, there’s that.
Don’t have to go far north to see that.
Upsala on TC Hwy17 general store, postoffice, LCBO, gasbar.
Or Port Renfrew.
All close to the 49th, yet farther north than 75% of the ROC.
Beginning to think this whole clean drinking water thing is no different than HAMAS hiding all the free baby food, powdered milk and supplements given to them.
The Indian industry runs on white guilt. The worse the conditions on the reserves, the easier the guilt flows from the taxpayer to the chiefs and their pimping lawyers. Think of the water issue as a prop in a theatre. The most profitable prop and still producing grift is the Indian Residential School allegations and lies. Putting Jodie Wilson- Raybould in charge of the Indian File as AG was pure conflict of interest and she halted litigation fighting for the taxpayers and ordered negotiation with billions eventually going towards thousands alleging abuse without any proof or hearing from employees of IRSs offering contradictory evidence.
Anybody who has ever actually been to an Indian reserve knows the word “pristine” doesn’t fit.
Perhaps they misspelled ” pissed-in”?