Viral immunologist Dr. Bridle;
The data suggest the ostriches experienced an outbreak of avian influenza, which was most likely introduced to the farm by wild birds, in which the virus is endemic. In the ostriches, the virus functionally behaved like a low pathogenic strain, based on the percentage of deaths. Ostriches that had been on the farm for more than several years did not get sick, suggesting that they had naturally acquired immunity, likely from a previous exposure to the virus. Newer members of the flock got sick and some died. Most of the sick ostriches recovered and returned to full health. This suggests that all of the remaining healthy flock had naturally acquired immunity. So, to execute healthy birds with gold-standard immunity in no way increases the safety of people or animals in the region. In fact, it does the opposite.
A flock with naturally acquired immunity creates a geographical location where the virus will either be stopped dead in its tracks, or will have great difficulty getting transmitted. Instead, the farmers will be allowed, if they so wish, to repopulate the farm with immunologically naive birds that will be highly susceptible to influenza viruses that can get re-introduced by the birds that forever migrate through the property. Absolutely nothing has been done or can be done about the carrier population of wild birds that spread the virus between continents. So, by failing to acknowledge the reality of naturally acquired immunity, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency has done the opposite of enhancing public safety. Their policy of ignoring this basic science has raised public risk through the removal of a flock that achieved the ultimate public health goal of herd immunity and allowing them to be replaced with highly susceptible birds.
Indeed, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency has documented multiple farms across the country in which their stamping out policy for avian influenza facilitated the repeated return of the disease when naive birds were introduced. Over just a few-year span, several farms were documented to have up to four repeat outbreaks. Let’s explicitly spell out what that looks like…
They have to be eliminated because of their natural immunity. Next they’ll come for the unvaccinated.
Dr. Bridle is a national treasure.
Unlike human herds, they at least weren’t given high risk, experimental, leaky “vaccines” ensuring optimal conditions for viral mutation and escape.
Only because Pfizer hasn’t yet developed an avian mRNA vaccine that can be sold to governments (force taxpayers to buy) for $ hundreds of billions.
BeauroKKKrap over reach, were have we heard that before?
Oh yah SQUIRREL !
We are the GOVERNMENT and are here to HELP ( yeah right)………..the best way for the Govt to HELP is to stay out of our lives…………
Trust only government science experts.
They’ve been so, so, “right” about global warming. For example … California’s “never-ending catastrophic drought” … as we are once again tracking flood warnings.
Something else is afoot methinks…can’t quite put my finger on it but I know it’s there.
Maybe it was about compliance…don’t question authority… because it sure had a “Look at us, we are the captain now” vibe to it. Even the Supreme Court which which likes to stick its beak in everyone’s life added its two cents by not adding its two cents.
I know one thing…it wasn’t about public health.
Another thing which I already knew – The Einsatzgruppen are not your friends.
There’s us and there’s them and despite what anyone tells you, that’s just the way they like it.
Entirely imposed by the ministry of compliance.
On a related note, I expect the unjabbed to take it in the teeth still.
AGM and Burton.
I heard a report on the radio concerning the ostriches which implied infalibility for “government science”.
A bureaucrat once told a client of mine, “The government does not make mistakes.” That was back in the 1990’s.
Burton:
Oh, you put your finger on it alright!,
“We have made a decision and bygawd you will obey … or else”.
Which is the true indelicate meaning of the word.
“introduced to the farm by wild birds”. You can’t kill the wild birds, but you can easily kill a flock of farm ostriches. Seems reasonable to a public health bureaucrat. Also, it’s a good reminder that they’re in charge.
Rebel news showed wild turkeys running around the ostrich farm right after the slaughter. Did the CFIA start shooting them too? Of course not. No one’s property rights could be trampled all over by shooting wild birds. No artificial meat shortage could be created to cause inflation and further strip wealth from us. No way for Brookfield to make money or for Big Pharma to squash a possible nonvaccine routine for treating viruses. Shooting wild turkeys benefits no one.
We should hold a progrom on wild birds.
Wrong.
We should hold a pogrom on Big Government.
Ottawa versus the wild turkeys? Big Government against Big Gobblement?
Perhaps it’s time to put an end to all bird migration. Although I’ve read multiple government-funded ‘studies’ claiming global warming has already ruined all those migratory flyways.
Migration is a search for food. Geese found out there is plenty of food here. Why waste time flying to the other end of the Earth? Furry and feathered critters aren’t as stupid as the animal rights zealots would have you believe.
People, we know there is no real science behind this madness. It is not now and never has been about the science. It is about getting Canadians accustomed to the reality of having zero rights and installing an insane tyrant over a bankrupted nation. Canada’s PCR was known by May 2021 to have a 56% false positive rate. The experts in the labs knew it but everyone went along anyway. (https://www.jccf.ca/manitoba-chief-microbiologist-and-laboratory-specialist-56-of-positive-cases-are-not-infectious/)
You will own nothing and be happy. (Or you will at least pretend to be happy and remain silent.)
☑
You will pretend to be as happy as a ChiCom comrade … or you will be cancelled via your substandard social credit score. No food for you. No banking for you.
The Unknown Citizen
https://poets.org/poem/unknown-citizen
we are living the orwellian “1984” ……. believe me now?
The government wants to control the food supply. They will do it with the avian flu, any flock that comes into contact with it must be culled. Having a flock of immune birds destroys their bullshit so they had to go. They will claim immunity is not possible.
These bureaucratic monsters working for the WEF/UN/WHO need to be removed from their positions and possibly jailed.
They will go after beef because climate change and methane.
And the elbows up tards will buy it.
The government will make you go meatless one way or another!
How about culled?
Beef and meat in general are just the next steps.
“As humanity moves further toward a post-carbon future people must accept that things like eating meat and property ownership is simply unsustainable.” – Klaus Schwab
“We just don’t need the vast majority of the population in today’s world.” – Yuval Harari
It’s no wonder government bureaucrats are drawn to and overwhelmingly vote for left wing politics. They share a mentality which pushes all process all the time — results and reality be damned. As Jordan Peterson pointed out, ideologues’ solutions to every problem real or imagined is simply more of the same ideologically “correct” process. When the desired result fails to appear, rinse and repeat. And if after multiple iterations it slowly dawns on them that the problem is not being solved then the failure is ascribed to external, malevolent influences, never that the process itself could be flawed in the first place. In bird flu as in healthcare the process is almighty.
Bureaucrats all want to rule. None understand they are here to serve.
Allow me to yet again explain to the ignorant that are new readers to this site about the Goebbels/Milgram/Grandin theory. The government controlled media tell us something that the government want us to believe, the Goebbels part, right out of 1930s Germany. The experts, the government appointed men in white coats and uniforms, then tell us what we have to do, the Milgram theory from the 60’s. Then like a bunch of sheep, the Grandin finale, to be safe we all follow orders, there is safety in numbers because to show critical thinking and act independently is to be labelled an ‘enemy of the state’ and your very freedom is at risk. Google the three people and tell me that I’m wrong, then again better not since Googling might incur a visit from the ‘yellow legs’!
The entire boondoggle reeks of government coverup for big pharma? Those birds could of provided humans and other birds with safe effective vaccines, not experimental clot shots but actual vaccines?
I think what Big Pharma is afraid of is a relatively easy way to mass produce antibodies which could then be used to treat people who get very sick. Most of us don’t get very sick with flu or COVID or measles or whatever the virus du jour is. You just let the virus run through the population so everyone has natural immunity and meantime you use the ostrich antibodies to treat anyone who gets very sick, thereby removing the fear and horror factor. Big Pharma can’t make money on that style of treatment. Plus very few people would need Big Pharma drugs for adverse vaccine reactions, furthr reducing the profits.
Meh.
Arrogant Incompetence is not a new invention.
Dread Covid Theatre just proved how out of control these fools have become.
I would stress “Out of Control”.
Bureaucrats are like fire.
Let run free they will consume and destroy every resource,including the citizens.
They claim to provide “Public Services”..Yet most competent persons can survive and even thrive without this “Help”..
Please refer to Justine’s “New Middle Class”.
The first step of this “help” is to identify and expand “The needy”.
For on the backs of these clients,the “helpers” will thrive and prosper.
Every 80 years or so civil society has pruned back this cancer..
Time is up,for we are smothering under this parasitic growth.
When I am taxed in excess of 50% ,I stop paying.
By the simple expedient of working less.
Tax evasion is illegal in this Kleptocracy,but no one can force you to work longer for less,which is the new reality.
The last few decades have shown all who would see,the true nature of our government.
Public Health and Food Safety are a foul joke,seemingly intent on killing all domestic fowl.
With “help” such as these?
We need no enemies.
Fire 50% of these “helpers” today.
Wait 6 months and fire 50% of those who remain,repeat for decades.
We have run this experiment.
More Government !
Is not good,nor is it even possible.
As Can Ahh Duh collapses,we can warm ourselves at night with the thought…
We could have prevented this.
Letting fools and bandits “manage” your nation,always ends like this.
No one is coming to save us.
The Greys dominate our society,near 40% of working age people have joined their ranks.
That is a huge voting bloc of Not Sees.
And the odds of voting our way out of this mess,are so low as to be zero.
Enjoy the decline?
I would harp on about the basic maths of unsustainable nonproductive employment,AKA Civil servants.
But this is Can Ahh Duh,where “Maths is hard”.
10 working persons can barely support one helper.
To support 4 nonproductive “helpers” who are actively working against the productive?
Impossible.
I did try, i’m outnumbered by citiots and nare do well’s!
“I would harp on about the basic maths of unsustainable nonproductive employment,AKA Civil servants.”
Wait until the UBI hits!!
I did try, i’m outnumbered by citiots and nare do well’s!
“I would harp on about the basic maths of unsustainable nonproductive employment,AKA Civil servants.”
Wait until the UBI hits!!
A little boid told me the awestrich farmers were very vocal auntie vacksers.
Not in the least surprised.
This had about as much to do w/ actual science as the entire Globull Warmening & Coof narratives.
This is an issue that one might change one’s mind on once one learns a little more.
There are many countries that could halt poultry imports from Canada should we fail to euthanize any birds with Avian flu. This countires include United States, Mexico, the entire European Union, Japan, South Korea, and China.
In short, those ostrich farmers were jeopardizing the livelihood of other Canadian poultry farmers.
Oh, so that makes it right then. Okay, gotcha. Gotta do for the common good whatcha gotta do.
If that were the case, the US would not have offered to test the birds. It would have started rule-making for doing just what you claimed.
It’s not right or wrong. It’s what must be done if Canadas wants to export poultry to the US.
So avian flu is not endemic?
Controlling viruses – especially within transcontinental animals such as birds – seems about as probable as controlling the earth’s temperature.
Irrelevant. If Canada wants to export poultry to the US, the ostriches must be culled.
Well they Were culled and if facts are irrelevant then the science is as well.
Why bother at all?
Well go argue with the Americans. Canadians have to either meet US standards or not do business.
The Americans offered to take the ostriches. The Amerifcans asked for the cull to not happen. What are you going on about?
That’s BS. The World Animal health organisation has a mechainsm whereby the birds could have been declared in a quarantine and after one year retsted and if they tested negative they would lift the quarantine. You really should stop listening to CBC.
Virus.
The use of that word invalidates everything that follows.
Might as well have said phrenology.
For those puzzled by this, Watto does not buy into the microbial — or germ — theory of disease.
Yes, he just blames the Americans. Lovable kook, eh?
Canada imports about $660 million value of chicken, and exports $880 million of chicken, while the total value produced is just under $4 billion. More than 80% of this export market is to the USA.
The Canadian gov’t pisses that difference of $220 million value in gifts to garbage countries to promote sexual deviance each year. The chicken trade seems more to do with alleviating chicken supply problems on both sides of the Can/USA border, some months we have excess, some months we’d like to import.
Canada exported $27,000 value of all types of chicken to Korea in 2024. One federal bureaucrat counting this earns $27k in any quarter of the year.
Canadian chicken exports to China have been banned since February 2022 due to trade disagreements. The Chinese will eat each other if they had to, the source of chicken isn’t anything they’ll argue over as long as their “ministry of compliance” is adhered to. Which sounds a lot like tier 2 Canada.
Japan has so many rules regarding chicken exports it’s hardly worth it. It is kept track of by individual farms more than the gov’t of Canada.
Canada imports $82 million of chicken from Europe, and exports $22 million, and Canadian farmers are required to comply with all of Europe’s rules of sanity, traceability, CFAI export certificates, exactly what one would expect from the world leaders in compliance, and not worth it.
Exports to Mexico are very limited, a vet’s cert of health, and instructions for keeping the chicken safe to eat must be in Spanish.
Killing any amount of animals wholesale to appease other governments that our chicken crop is “pure” doesn’t make any sense here. The greatest threat is the interprovincial trade arrangements which tier 2 Canada’s provinces have imposed in the past decades to protect local markets, and some provinces over other provinces.
The imbeciles who were threatened by the ostrich farmers are all employees of the gov’t of tier 2 Canada, and that threat was largely of not having everyone comply with their wishes.
It’s true idiocy, sold by the gov’t of Canada to Canada’s garbage media companies for mass consumption by Canadians who never look beyond the headline of the day.
Canadians would do well to, “learn a little more” …
Perhaps the next role for our garbage gov’t of Canada will be a “war on sparrows” … this wouldn’t surprise me.
“Killing any amount of animals wholesale to appease other governments that our chicken crop is “pure” doesn’t make any sense here.”
We’re not trying to “appease” foreign governments. We’re trying to do trade. These ostrich farmers are jeoparidizing other poultry farmer’s livelihood. If you can’t accept the idea of losing your entire flock to Avian flu, don’t be a poultry farmer.
Canada gives far more money away to garbage countries to promote deviant sex, than the value of chicken we’re able to sell worldwide. The export of chicken from tier 2 Canada is not worth it.
A farmer isn’t “losing their entire flock to avian flu” … they’re more likely to lose their entire flock to a garbage civil servant acting upon the rules set forth within the Ministry of Compliance.
Keep in mind, the entirety of these garbage civil servant’s braintrust was unwilling to have the ostriches tested.
They’ll never be able to prove there was a reason to kill the herd, aside from compliance with an order based upon fear.
And having brought up “fear” … I suspect some within the Ministry of Compliance are witches.
Someone should act upon that, and I’m not referring to a “cull”.
And that should end, but it’s irrelevant to the topic.
There were sound reasons for destroying the flock early on. Later it became scientifically moot. What destroying the flock did do, however, was help protect Canada’s poultry trade.
That international chicken trade which is so important to you, isn’t a significant gain for the country… more is wasted (again) by promoting deviant sex within garbage countries.
The gov’t (and media) doesn’t know if any of the birds killed were infected, and thusly can’t say they did this to protect others, or the international meat trade, or the measure of fear which rules how most Canadians live their lives. If trade is so important to the #Libranos Gov’t they should negotiate a trade deal with the country with which +80% of their trade is conducted.
I think the killing was to promote compliance. Not so different from freezing the trucker’s bank accounts.
“more is wasted (again) by promoting deviant sex within garbage countries.”
Yeah, that’s irrelevant to the discussion.
There are many examples of gov’t waste which adds up to more than the sum total of Canada’s export gains from trading in chicken. The example of promoting deviant sex at a greater cost is ideally suited to compare to the actual value of Canada’s net export of chicken.
That’s the idea, it’s irrelevant, and neither are worth the effort.
Indeed, irrelevant to the discussion. And yet it turns up in the spending.
“There were sound reasons for destroying the flock early on.”
Are you kidding me??
The fact that it became ‘moot’ wholly invalidates the reasons for destruction!
Apparently those ‘reasons’ stem from conditions that never actually existed!
We have no idea what other birds those infected ostriches passed the flu onto.
So yes, there was a case of culling early on.
Like maybe the wild turkeys running around on that farm that CFIA is not shooting? Or how about the migrating geese? And the ducks, and cranes.
It seems like the government couldn’t/wouldn’t accept that the entire flock was immune.
The flock wasn’t immune. It had Avian flu.
The flock had two birds test positive using PCR which is notoriously inaccurate with a very high false positive rate. Their refusal to retest even though WHAO allows means there was likely no bird flu. Even if there was CFIA’s Dive Dr. Angela Rasmussen said the birds were probably no longer infectious.
The Gov’t didn’t check the birds it killed for avian flu… the birds survived a small group of birds being infected, and it’s probable that the remaining herd had acquired immunity from that past infection. Similar to some wild birds not having avian flu while others near them are sick.
“Flock’s” don’t have infections, in the same way as groups of humans don’t have AIDS, Avian flu infects individual birds, sometimes nearly alone, sometimes as individual members of a flock or herd.
Meanwhile, the 314 dead bird’s bodies lay in open topped disposal bins…
“The carcasses of approximately 314 ostriches, culled at Universal Ostrich Farms in Edgewood, British Columbia, remain confined in blue open-top disposal bins at the Super Save Disposal lot located at 19395 Langley Bypass in Surrey, British Columbia. They have sat untreated and exposed for nine days as of November 15, 2025. Eyewitnesses document a foul, rotting odor wafting from the site, detectable from the adjacent roadway and into nearby residential areas. Visible leakage of decomposing fluids stains the ground and potentially infiltrates local soil and groundwater near a biodiversity preserve.”
There are a few more pages of insight from observations at this site which follow this brief copy.
https://x.com/VoteCanadaCom/status/1989749252403466404
Scroll down, there are photos of Super Save employees washing the containers down, and overhead photos taken of the blue bins in the Super Save parking lot.
The gov’t of Canada is garbage. We’re ruled by imbeciles who don’t know what they’re doing. If only they were simply stupid we would expect them to “sometimes get it right” while I don’t know of any recent cases when the garbage gov’t of Canada and #Libranos have gotten anything right.
They’re retarded and evil, and I mean that in the worst sense of the word.
At the risk of repeating myself, the WHAO has regulations that would have permitted a one year quarantine if CIFA has chosen to do it. Even that DIVA of CFIA Dr. Angela Rasmussen, said the birds were not infectious and this was about enforcing government edicts, not health. As for our export markets the AMerican oferd to take the birds and asked us not to cull them.
A whole bunch of birds and eggs are said to have disappeared. Have the Liberals given these to their friends in Big Pharma? You couldn’t possibly have a farm family profit from developing a vaccine when friends of the Liberals can steal the research. Just a theory.
Do ostriches have the unique ability to acquire lifelong immunity to influenza? Most species, including us, can have multiple flu infections over their lifetimes. My understanding is that the virus mutates rapidly, leading to a new strain emerging each season. Am I missing something?