Best Medical System In The World

Globe and Mail- Manitoba health official asked why he wasn’t told sooner of death in Winnipeg ER, internal e-mails show

Scott Sinclair, second to Health Minister Uzoma Asagwara, said in internal e-mails that he learned of the death of 49-year-old Chad Christopher Giffin hours after it occurred and had been reported in the media. Mr. Giffin, who was triaged as not urgent and waited eight hours for care, died on Jan. 7 at the Health Sciences Centre, Manitoba’s largest hospital.

29 Replies to “Best Medical System In The World”

  1. If you want to understand why so many Canadians voted for Carney, just ask them how many industrialized countries in the world have single payer health care. They will reply “all of them, except for the US”. It’s a complete lie, since Canada is the only one that insists on nothing but payment by government. Everyone else has multi-payer systems yet few Canadians even know that, much less care about it.

    1. Nor true.. N Korea and Cuba as well have only govt death managment

      1. “Nor true.. N Korea and Cuba as well have only govt death managment”

        North Korea, Cuba and Canada. I’m so proud to be part of that group.

  2. The official “learned about the death hours after it had occurred”

    Hours?

    What’s the problem?

    Perhaps the official needs to receive an immediate email after all deaths?

    Or perhaps receive an immediate email whenever anyone presents themselves to a hospital, so he can advise on the appropriate care? (Sarc?)

    1. Of course, of course.

      Who cares if some guy shuffles off his mortal coil because they ignored him in ER for 8 hours? It isn’t like he was anybody important, right?

      1. Didn’t say that.

        The official was told hours after it occurred.

        He wanted faster notification. Why does he need faster?

        1. Oh, I agree. Why should the health minister care if some peon croaked in the ER because they couldn’t be @ssed to see him? It isn’t like the minister is responsible for all the health services in the prov…

          …oh, wait…

          Yes, Joe, if the ER screws the pooch that bad, the guy would want to know before he gets jumped by the reporters. And he -SHOULD- know. But he didn’t, just like the ER staff ignored that guy to death.

          An 8 hour wait in ER is obscene, even when you don’t die. It means the health system is -utterly- broken. It means the health minister is not getting it done, and he can’t even look like he’s getting it done. He can’t even lie competently.

          Now do Ontario, where this is -normal- and the media don’t even report it anymore. Here they die in an ambulance in the parking lot, they don’t even make it to the waiting room.

    1. lol

      the outrage mere *hours* after the death is CLEARLY cya in action.
      as if every time someone craoks in the emergency ward the ministry gets the first and an IMMEDIATE call? bullllllllllllll shiiiiiiii . . . . . .

  3. You know, in a mixed up, ironic kind of way, the socialized health care systems in Canada and across Europe are indirectly the fault of the US. By taking on most of the defense costs, and subsidizing foreign projects with non-government entity money taken from US tax payer dollars, the governments across the globe were free to dabble in their own endeavors. One of the byproducts was the creation of “Utopian” healthcare systems. Had Europe and, likely, Canada been paying for their own defensive capabilities all along, they wouldn’t have had the funds or the ambition to go down the socialized medical care road.

    You’re welcome…. 😀

    1. Yes, and no.
      They chose to go down that path; they didn’t have to do so.

      O Absalom!
      Sometimes ‘wealth’ isn’t all it’s cracked up to be!

    2. Because the US choses to spend more on its military than the rest of the world put together doesn’t mean the rest don’t spend enough. If you don’t create enemies of half the world you don’t need massive armed forces. Europeans have small armed forces because they have small threats, if they thought they had a significant threat they’d do something about it like they did before the Berlin wall came down. During the cold war European nations spent vast amounts of money on their armed forces. The US wasn’t subsidizing their defence, the US was planning on destroying Europe in a war with the Soviet Union to avoid having their own country destroyed in that war.

      1. For a long time that spending was mostly to keep the Soviet Union from invading Europe. We were not looking to destroy Europe but keep the SU from enslaving Europeans.

        Any war in Europe would have rapidly escalated to thermonuclear war. Few North American cities would have survived.

  4. 8 hours. The guy obviously wasn’t an Indian. The last guy who died in a Winnipeg waiting room was an Indian dead in a chair for 48 hours before anyone notice him. There is an expression in Winnipeg waiting rooms, “Manyana.”

  5. Uzoma Asagwara, who also serves as Premier Wab Kinew’s deputy…

    The press refers to Asagwara as “Mx.” and with the pronoun “they”.

    You can kill a man in a hospital ER, but don’t you f*cking dare to get the honorific or pronouns wrong.

  6. Orson, I believe you are correct, regarding funding. When I have suggested, that government healthcare was probably a mistake, that should not have been made, I am immediately pointed to the high costs in the American system. Why do people automatically assume everything in life is a binary choice? I just say that we have slowly, over it’s lifetime, become addicted to it and there would be an extremely painful transition, if we were to do something different.
    Let’s be honest. The deputy health minister only cared, because it became a big deal in the media.

  7. Well at least MB has a Health Minister who is the first non-binary MLA in the Manitoba legislature and one of the first black MLAs elected in Manitoba’s history. Her greatest achievement as an MLA, was passing a bill to recognize Somali Heritage Week.
    A Wobbly Canoe, woke DEI appointee.

  8. I don’t know what the excitement is all about.
    Isn’t this just MAID in a different manner?

  9. “Mr. Scott Sinclair will be eligible for modular housing (coffin) unless he has insufficient funds in which case cremation will be in order. Thank you for your service and for helping improve our waitlist statistics.”

    Provincial Health Borg Queen

  10. “Premier Wab Kinew, who was elected in 2023 in large part because of his promise to reform health care in Manitoba, has said the system failed Mr. Giffin. He had said the province is committed to ensuring a situation like Mr. Giffin’s does not repeat itself.”

    Next time, the victim will die under different circumstances. Therefore, the situation didn’t repeat itself. And don’t call me surly.

  11. L- The politicians, who cleverly exploited human fear and manipulated that into a dependency
    on gov’t. funded and monopoly controlled Healthcare. Allowed the sacred monopoly to
    subvert itself, by not keeping up with the number of doctors required per capita. This via mass migration population replacement policy and a Panic-demic or plandemic that broke the trust
    factor, as true medical professionals via the internet debunked bureaucratic hokey-pokey.

    Now, those without a personal physician, can access one online, soon many will have a medical A.I. Consultant Physician, which will reduce unnecessary hospital/doctor visits. This along with
    audited drugs. Thus the gov’t. (as God) monopoly is broken or broken up.
    Anti-trust is in process.

  12. It might just be me but I wonder why a health official needs to be notified every time someone dies. And assuming they are, what are they doing about it? Issuing “our heart goes out to the family” apologies or trying to improve the system? Sorry about that but my cynical meter has been pinging on 11 since the election.

    1. Steve,
      what you said indeed,
      turn up the stereo to 11 and keep on rockin’ in the ‘free’ world

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