Better get back to building those wind turbines, Alberta!

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Two days before Alberta is to lift its renewables pause, wind output falls to zero. Real reliable, that wind.

So they’ve built 45 wind farms so far, and they, in total, produced zero power. If they built 450, would that solve the problem?

And no, they’re not built with taxpayer dollars. But many are built for credits of all sorts.

37 Replies to “Better get back to building those wind turbines, Alberta!”

  1. The farm itself might not be built with taxpayer dollars, but you can be certain taxpayers get hosed along the way.

    Are the materials used to build the equipment behind the wind farms subsidized? Did the energy company receive subsidies, tax incentives, or credits to take part in a “green” enterprise?

    Are citizens forced to buy power from these farms, regardless whether or not any of it is used in the grid? If so, then the net effect is the same. One is just a more covert method of theft than the other, and in that way is more despicable.

  3. Brian – How much power was consumed by the 4481 MW of installed capacity?

    Each of the individual units requires power to run their electronics, any heaters they have, etc…

  4. Yesterday I was reading garbage from the CBC via MSN about Alberta and it’s renewables.
    Every
    Blanking
    Time
    The Proponents of “renewables” fail to mention that they’re unreliable, intermittent and unpredictable.
    And that their capacity has to be backed up by Reliable Power.

  5. Let’s add this to the mix. Yesterday I had to do a run out to the east country -Consort, Coronation- to do some sales deliveries. The wind blowing out of the south was not inconsequential. Enough to knock 2 mpg off of my usual for that run. But, the giant fans at Halkirk were dead still. It was -20C.

  6. I came south of Consort on 41 last nite through ‘turbine alley’. It was after midnite and -26. All you can see is red lights. For miles. It was dark so you could only see the ones that are close to the highway and they were turning.

    1. In cold weather they’re sometimes turning. They “motor” the generator, using grid power, to keep the bearings and other stuff from freezing up, and to give the impression that they’re actually doing something useful. They’re not generating anything. Just more gaslighting.

    2. By the time it was dark wind power picked up back to something that actually registered and then built up through the night.

  7. If Alberta and Saskatchewan insist on having intermittent, unreliable power then they should be aiming to have wind and solar below 20% of installed capacity. Ideally closer 10% because that’s the point that the intermittency begins to affect the grid.

    There is a few ways to do this – significantly curb new wind and solar construction or increase new natgas construction or do both simultaneously. I’d get the solar and wind producers to build their own backup power at their own expense or have them contribute to a fund that builds reliable natgas plants.

  8. When the hell will they get their heads out of their a $ $ e $ ? Watching idiocy and insanity is getting to be a real p i $ $ off as no one has a clue.
    The cost of that nonsense will soon bankrupt the province when they start tearing them down.

    1. Like someone mentioned a few days ago, the people who buy this stuff (politicians) have no education to allow them to make intelligent decisions. In ANY other profession, one needs to have proof of education, experience and track record to get to the top where the big decisions are made.

      But not government. Nope. Ideology is all that matters. Facts do not. Facts are inconvenient.

    2. That’s why I keep writing these stories. Someone needs to take notice. Smith, I believe, has.

      1. Thank you for the work you do!
        it is appreciated, by the cognicenti, we just need more of them in government..

  9. No matter how much you might worry, be reassured that wind generation cannot go below zero percent. Having made your day, I’m on my way.

    1. You’d be wrong. Like I mentioned a few posts up, they are often “motored, using grid power, to keep the stuff in them from freezing up and to give the public the impression that they’re generating. Power in instead of out is negative generation, not zero.

      1. “You’d be wrong. Like I mentioned a few posts up, they are often “motored, using grid power, to keep the stuff in them from freezing up and to give the public the impression that they’re generating.”

        Also to avoid flat spots on the main bearings.

    2. And you’d be wrong.
      From Jan. 20, 2023: According the SaskPower’s Where Your Power Comes From webpage, SaskPower saw -1 megawatt of wind power production, the same as it has the day before, on Jan. 16. And it follows and average 23 megawatts produced on Jan. 15. Saskatchewan has 617 megawatts of grid-scale wind power installed.

      How can it be negative? According to SaskPower on Jan. 18, “The turbines were iced up and unable to produce. The -1 megawatt was load to service the facilities.”

      https://pipelineonline.ca/for-four-days-in-a-row-saskatchewan-gets-next-to-no-power-from-wind-turbines-two-days-saw-negative-power-production/

  10. Hate to be the bearer of bad news but subsidies are tax dollars. Without them the wind and solar industry would fall on it’s ass tomorrow.

    1. Fair enough. But too many people say these wind farms are being built by tax dollars. They aren’t. Not directly.

    1. That’s a Canadian Press article, supporting the government narrative on renewables. It isn’t increased politicization that threatens the industry; it’s the fact that people are going to get fed up with increased costs for power that fails when you need it most. Freezing in the dark has a way of illuminating the truth.

      1. Right you are. Always understand CP is LPC/NDP propaganda. I wouldn’t trust them to report on a local flower show.

        Also: Renewables were politicised from day one. Otherwise, no one would dump money in something that can’t operate without taxpayers subsidising it.

  13. It is really simple. Customers demand electricity continuously all day all week. Pay producers only what they produce continuously for say a week. If lowest production is zero during the week the power producer gets paid zero dollars. Every producer is required to have back up.

    1. Billy , they don’t just demand it, the province and everyone in it NEEDS electricity. I don’t know if one could calculate how many people would die without it. Fools that want to kill us have to be removed.

  14. I listened to Smith’s presser. She said all the right things about preserving ag land. The solar/wind industry has been making deals with landowners to this point. It sounds like that is about to change. There may be blow back from landowner or property rights groups over this decision?

    My guess is the Smith government is going to make further renewable energy development as difficult as the feds make approval of big oil/gas energy projects. Stay tuned.

  17. But many are built for credits of all sorts. Let me correct this – ALL are built for credits of all sorts

  18. Related
    Mark Mallett made a small documentary about a public consultation in regard to a Windmill project that is planned in Alberta. He is exposing the deceptive tactics by which the wind industry is withholding information and try to manipulate individuals. At the end they can check off a box that they had a public hearing with the residents though no questions had been answered.

    https://youtu.be/jjC39jSl9so

  19. In addition, because wind and solar “farms” are so spread out, their transmission costs are significantly higher than a typical coal or gas plant. These costs are of course not included when they calculate their cost of generation.

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