Brian Zinchuk: Imagine twinning every highway, grid road, street and alleyway across the country in 25 years. Because that’s what doubling the #grid is going to be equivalent of.
What ‘doubling the electrical grid’ really means
Brian Zinchuk: Imagine twinning every highway, grid road, street and alleyway across the country in 25 years. Because that’s what doubling the #grid is going to be equivalent of.
Doubling?
It won’t happen because it’s not physically possible. Saskatchewan rural electrification started in 1949. It was still being completed at the end of the 1980s. Much the same thing in Ontario. And Ontario had the advantage of a large established manufacturing base.
Expansion of the grid on this scale is simply not possible. The manufacturing capacity simply doesn’t exist. Such expansion would require hundreds of large power transformers across Canada. There were five such manufacturers in Canada in 1990; there are none now. There were dozens of cable companies capable of supplying miles of transmission or distribution conductors. They are all long gone now.
So it doesn’t matter what the federal government wants; it isn’t going to happen.
This is what all the deluded eco-marxists always conveniently never mention when describing the fantasy they want to foist on us. Because electrified everything will necessitate the doubling of the grid – something that, if we are to maintain the same standard of living (not), would have been started a decade or more ago. Just imagine the scale of what that would look like! Because it’s not just about adding vehicle chargers to every residence – remember, they want to eliminate gas stoves and furnaces, among other things.
So, besides the transmission lines shown in Brian’s photo, every building residence, etc will need its service doubled. And not once have I ever heard these anti human zealots mention that. Again, because they have no plan or intention of us living the same as we do now. Understand that we are the carbon they want to eliminate!
I am actually feeling a bit of glee as I see the EVs being ignored by the motoring public. We know bullshit when we smell it and the greening of transportation is full of it to the brim.
The public is slowly becoming aware of the lies around electricity being the end all in transportation, home heating and cooling and all the power required to keep factories humming and millions of huge apartment and office towers with lights on and so on.
Then there is the massive power consumption of the many data banks, mega computers server farms … keeping an eye on us all whilst each of them consumes more electric power than a small city.
This is a doomed scenario … add copper thieves and the African vandals and you have a mess that cannot be cleaned up.
And try not to think of the massive avian and small animal kill around giant windmills and solar farms.
I used to be ashamed to be a Canadian but I am upgrading that shame to apply to being an Earthling.
The elites know all this and that is why they want to kill most of us until there is less than a billion humans left on the planet. Then there will be plenty of power for them … It may look like a good plan for them, but who will be doing what it takes to keep high tech and modernity … food, medicines, innovations to keep them living the lavish life-styles they are accustomed to.
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J – Cgh
No arguments whatsoever with both comments. 100% bang on.
That EV’s are falling off the radar is zero surprise to me for all the reasons we here have gone over numerous times.
Doubling the grid requires a doubling & half or more, of the required Generation & DISTRIBUTION as well. NOW Where would all that come from..??
Cant use Fossil Fuels – God Forbid.!!
Wind & Solar are beyond laughable.
Hydro..?? & from what river on this planet that already has 4-5 dams per would that come from..?? yea, not happening.
That leaves NUCLEAR.
A: I don’t see Green Peace – Let’s Stop OIL jumping onto that particular bandwagon…??
B: Who’s Building Nukes. in Canada.?? NOBODY.
Hmm I wonder how much copper is left at Highmont Valley (Near Kamploops, BC)
Anyway, I sense a heightened attitude of GFY – Up-Yours (towards the Cabal Of NAZI Globalist FILTH that has “enriched” EVERY Western Govt), becoming much more prevalent over the last 6 months or so.
MORE PLs…!!
The Pickering B plant, which was going to be shut down is going to be refurbished to extend its life for 20 plus years, and 4 SMRs ( small modular reactors) are going to be built at Darlington. This project has already broken ground.
Steakman and Rusty,
This will hardly surprise you but the ‘peas HATE nuclear power with a white-hot passion. The rest of your summary is good. Historically, the reason Ontario built nuclear power starting in the 1960s is because Ontario has no coal. Importing it from the United States had far too many impossible transport problems, so it had to be nuclear. And you are entirely right; Ontario tried wind and solar and it was a huge failure. So, since Ontario needs a lot more electricity, it will build more nuclear and burn as much gas as necessary to keep the lights on.
(No one in the Ontario government gives a rat’s *** about that dumb f**ker Stephen Guilbeault and his delusions of net zero.)
And you are right about hydro. There’s no remaining rivers left to build dams upon. Already all built long ago.
Rusty, entirely right, Ontario will be building 4 SMRs at Darlington (BWXT-300) and three large reactors at Bruce (technology TBD). This has nothing to do with net zero and everything to do with 250,000 immigrants per year moving into the province.
The extension of Pickering four reactors will be the subject of a Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission hearing this June. Most important public hearing in the province in decades. The ‘peas and assorted hangers on like Ontario Clean Air Alliance (despite their name they are pure antinuke scum) will be in a frenzy at this hearing, probably with the usual ‘peas hijinks. There will be more hearings over the next few years for all the new reactor projects. Expect both violence from the antinukes and foreign funding paying for their public antics.
“Hydro..?? & from what river on this planet that already has 4-5 dams per would that come from..?? yea, not happening.”
Not exactly. There are over 3,500 hydro-electric dams being built or in the planning stages worldwide. Even in this country there are still few options left…not too many large-scale, but lots of medium or smaller sized options on top of pumped storage (which has gotten more viable as solar panels have improved.
It’s not that I have anything against nuclear generation where hydro is not feasible, but the initial cost maintenance and lifespan are definitely factors to consider. Natural gas, pretty much the same.
Anything is better than wind power, though…even solar beats it.
J West- Server farms. Summer of 2017 we drove down the Columbia on I-84. At Boardman, Oregon, there’s a HUGE building surrounded by generators that are about the size of a a cube van. Those gensets run 24/7, to provide the back-up power for a server farm. There’s actually two there, one next to the highway, and one that’s about a good 3-wood from the Columbia. If I was the guy selling natural gas to that facility, I could probably retire nicely if I was netting a nickel per hour, per generator.
You’re not mistaking Tillimook Columbia River Processing cheese plant, are you?
They have dozens of back up generators. Which IS laughable with the dams AND wind & solar in close proximity.
I don’t live there, you may be talking about something else.
BUT BUT BUT Fearless Leader said it WOULD happen, because he said so…..
“So it shall be written, so it shall be done.”
Fearless Leader will get a kick to his head at the next election. If, that is, the cowardly little rat hangs around for the disaster he’s spawned for the LPC.
Have the imbeciles in gov’t found a Chile sized copper seam to mine from while they sell this scheme to Canada?
Or will they simply be paying the world price for copper like everyone else?
Here again… https://cdn.ihsmarkit.com/www/prot/pdf/0722/Future-of-Copper.pdf
There are a million new to Canada people here in the past year. How many of them know how to build highways? how many know how to actually swing a hammer? operate an air nailer?
Years ago, I worked in Regina, SK as a plumber with some “new to Canada” folks who were doing the ductwork in a house. I asked them when they’ll be going to school / SAIST in SK for HVAC, and they said they can’t… because they couldn’t do math. They weren’t taught this in school, and 20 something was the time for sex with hoes not for learning math.
So where the gov’t of Canada thinks it’s going to gain these workers to do this work, (AND the copper, AND the manufacturing base to construct it in, AND the money….) I suspect they’re not here yet and Canada should maybe ramp up immigration to the 2-3 millions new Canadians each year because we all know a rising flood lifts all boats.
There, I said it.
holy crap.
“. . . and the electricity grid will double itself.”
By the time it takes to build it,,, it would have needed to be tripled,,, doubling the grid won’t cut it.
I’m surprised they even acknowledge the need to double capacity. Don’t they know somebody will be doing the math?
After cutting off proven and reliable energy, and squandering the money to maintain infrastructure, the only solution will be to move to the tropics or die. I’d love to see the proponents of zero emissions defend their position but there’s very few questions being asked
Thank you to SDA and Brian for your efforts!
This is one of those things where European thinkers forget how BIG and how EMPTY Canada is. In Europe the next town is five minutes away. You can walk it. In Canada the next town can easily be an hour away, 60 miles. That’s a lot of copper.
Plus, -doubling- the now existing electrical grid would only get us to a decent base-level of operation. The grid has been under-sized and fragile for quite a long time, over 30 years.
Solution, small nuclear? Eeeew, nevar!!!! Okay then, the only other solution is local gas turbines. Every town gets two, and you have gas pipelines instead. Because the wind don’t blow when its cold, and the sun goes down at night.
From Brian Gitt’s excellent primary on energy “In the Dark,” he presents what should be sobering reality check:
“Humans mined 700 million tons of copper over the last 5000 years, and they will need to match that output over the next 22 years to meet energy transition targets using wind, solar and batteries.”
It gets worse than from there, but as the author points out, politicians haven’t a clue of what they propose.
Twinning? The electrical grid will need to be quadrupled to replace all the fossil fuel burning furnaces, clothes dryers, water heaters, and kitchen stoves. Every house would also need at least two EV chargers.
I have a small house (600sq ft) with a 50,000BTU propane furnace. To replace 50,000BTUs you need 14.6Kilowatts or 66Amps on a 220volt circuit. An 1,800sq ft house (if you can find one that small) would max a 200amp panel out just for the heat, forget about cooking your food or charging your BEV.
BANANAS – love it.
Lets say that that the greens wave their magic wand and replace every passenger vehicle in the US overnight, with electric vehicles, under current generation, and all of those vehicles are charged between the hours of midnight and 6 am, using all of the available power, each vehicle would get 3.65kWh worth of power into their batteries.
So “doubling” might be a bit optimistic…
The same arguments given by FNs and NGOs about pipelines, dams, roads and mining construction damaging their long held ways of extortion, er sorry, life will be applied against expanding the electrical grid. Plus as stated above we don’t have the transformer and wire cable manufacturers of copper mines that we had before when Canada was run by adults to build out the grid.
I guess we know what’ll actually kill the electric car. To be fair most sane people already knew this.
Transformer shortage. Lead time has gone from 50 weeks to 150 weeks.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-renewable-grid-battery-projects-battle-transformer-shortage-2023-11-15/
And no one is seriously thinking of expanding the electric grid.
The transformer shortage will get a lot worse.
And Lord forbid we have another Carrington event