Down The Primrose Path

CreepyJoeBiden Democrats RINO Ukraine 96 Comments

To the very last Ukrainian;

“War,” said British philosopher, mathematician and pacifist Bertrand Russell, “does not determine who is right — only who is left.”

Those words might be the perfect lens through which to view what probably lies ahead for Ukraine in the coming year as its troops dig in — and dig deep — along a front roughly 960 kilometres wide.

Beyond that front stretches a wasteland of occupied territory — the smoldering ruins of a months-long summer counteroffensive that fell short of allies’ hype and failed to dislodge the Russian Army from the 20 per cent of the country it occupies.

Behind it lies a war-weary population, growing domestic political anxiety and infighting, and international allies who have grown more capricious — even delinquent.

Oh, well – they’ll always have that ‘Vogue’ cover.

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96 Replies to “Down The Primrose Path”

  2. I couldn’t care less about Ukraine. I saw the corruption they had with Joe and Hunter Biden. Boasting about cancelling a billion in aid if anyone tried to prosecute the Barizma folks where his son was grifting in technicolor.

    Ukraine is nothing but a corrupt pig farm, run by a few and destroying whatever cred they may have had at one time. Now they offer graft and corruption and they launder money for corrupt politicians.

    In this mess … I’m rootin’ for Putin. At least he doesn’t hide his tyranny, like Trudeau, Biden, Macron, and others.

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    1. All true. But the corruption and evil in the Ukraine is Cub Scout stuff compared to Moscow. I may not cheer for Zelensky, but I’m sure as hell not rootin’ for pootin.

      1. Only by Western CNN jungle juice propaganda shoved down your throat almost daily. The Afghanistan disaster is a good character reference.
        Did the US seriously think that forcing women negotiating to Muslims was a practical idea?
        That’s exactly what happened here along with if you’re not in any agreement with the United States, your automatically the enemy.
        It generated into everyone lying or financial consequences was coming your way with their control of the US Green Buck.

        So have you gotten your new vaccination shot yet too?

      2. Jamie
        You appear to ignore, or don’t know, that Putin rose to power bc of the corrupt western interests that were raping Russian industry.

        1. Gosh! And here I was, thinking all along that he rose to power the same way all other POS politicians rise to power. How could I have been so wrong?

          1. I guess it’s just ignorance.

            Putin unquestionably pulled Russia back from total collapse. Dismissing him as some kind of bogeyman caricature or just another politician is pure propaganda. IDK whether it’s worth saying of this to you, whether you’re an honest actor or not, but the idea that Putin is just another Biden or Zelensky is ridiculous. If you want to compare him to someone then compare him to the leaders of China or other countries where the president is actually in charge and faces serious, potentially lethal consequences for any misstep.

            These are seriously able people, with legitimate personal power and the responsibility for wielding it properly. Politicians in the west and western client states are cutouts for vast state apparatuses and corporate interests. we got Donald by mistake and that surprised everyone but we can see the insane frenzy to shut him down just in case he actually exercised some of the power he theoretically might have. You might not like him, but Putin is actually in charge. He’s a completely different entity to the hot air balloons we have floating around on the TV in the west.

    2. I thought you were talking about 1930’s Fwance, later to go Vichy with the Nazis, broke azz Colonial UK, or Hitlers war partner Stalin.
      Not too sure today’s cuck Canada is worth defending .
      Ukraine isn’t…..who? Where are these saints you’ld, maybe, assist?

  3. Ever wonder where the funding comes from to pay to have millions of illegals from all over the world travel to our borders? This invasion isn’t going to fund itself.

    My guess would be the non audited hundreds of billions we’re told is going to fund Ukraine proxy war.

    Added bonus is the draining of the wests armories.

  4. I’m trying to think of a country that “won” a war while relying on the USA for armaments AND money.

      4. England (Great Britain) finally finished paying off the war loan from the United States in either 1998 or 1999. Yes, it took that long to finish paying the debt of World War II.

      5. Britain, it’s government, and it’s people actually invested themselves into that fight. The others? Hmmm, maybe not always so much.

  5. Delinquent?

    I think that is referring to us deplorables in the US. The US House of Representatives is holding up funding for Ukraine. The US is not funding their Ukrainian bureaucrats and Ukrainian pensions because the Ebil Republicans are demanding that saintly Joe Biden close our southern border now that 8-12 Million illegal immigrants have crossed it in the three years since Senile Joe became President. How unreasonable can the Republicans be?

    Doesn’t everyone know that the Ukrainian Border is sacred, and violating the US Border by Millions of Illegal Aliens is a reasonable sacrifice for the protection of the brave, but corrupt Ukrainians? We must fight Russia to the last Ukrainian!

    All for Ukraine! None for US!

  6. A CBC article?
    Without a warning?
    Ukrainians have resisted since the Russians took over the territory under the Czars. Ukrainians will continue to resist even after the West tires of “today’s thing.”
    To the last Ukrainian for sure.

  7. A word on the “failed” summer offensive. In 1942, Russia was under intense pressure from the Nazis; Stalin was demanding the western allies invade France THAT YEAR, and threatening to make a separate peace with Hitler if they didn’t. He too was suspicious that Churchill and Roosevelt intended to fight the war “to the last Russian” { – and it would’ve accomplished nothing to point out to Stalin that he’d orchestrated the grand purge of the Russian army in 1937, that resulted in almost every officer with a brain in his head having it blown out by the NKVD; which negated Russia’s crushing superiority in tanks and artillery and was likely the major factor in Germany doing as well as it did in Russia before the Battle of Stalingrad).

    So the western Allies embarked on the Dieppe Raid, mostly to mollify Stalin that we were “doing our bit”; it was an unmitigated disaster, but at least Stalin could see for himself that we were just plain not ready to invade France yet. And one of our lessons from the sorry mess was that our Staff, which planned the whole operation, was not up to the task; staff members fought each other ferociously. Knowing we would have to invade the European continent eventually, the higher-ups took a stick to the staff officers and smartened them up a little; and subsequent landings such as Algeria, Sicily and Italy gave leaders and staffs practice in doing it right. Consequently, the D-Day landings were much smoother and better planned, and the Wehrmacht had been through the Battle of Kursk by then and was falling back to Germany under a rumbling Red Tide.

    So what’s this got to do with Ukraine? – two things. With all the armaments the West gave Ukraine, I get the impression that we were hectoring Ukraine to launch a grand offensive; the Ukrainians had a big “shock and awe” triumph southeast of Kharkiv and threw the Russians back several miles with little effort, and here we were demanding they “do it again”. I suspect Ukraine also wanted to “do it again”; the Ukrainians are not stupid, and it was obvious to them that western support was starting to evaporate as the Ukraine war slid into “yesterday’s news”. A big offensive would put them back in the headlines – BUT ONLY if it resulted in a big victory. It didn’t.

    Russia also learned from Ukraine’s grand “shock and awe” victory southeast of Kharkiv; and as they’d done in the Battle of Kursk, Russia knows how to fortify and had time to prepare for the summer offensive. The ground the Ukrainians tried to advance over was liberally strewn with mines, almost paved with them; and Russia had improved their own drones and figured-out how to attack the Ukrainians without being as susceptible to Ukrainian drones. And Russia has a vulnerability that they MUST defend against – the war gets a lot easier if Ukraine destroys the Kerch Strait Bridge and cuts Russia off from its major path of resupply into the Crimean Peninsula, and they’ve hit it several times already. It’s almost in range of the Ukrainian Front now, and the grunts in the Russian trenches, who’re suffering from inadequate supply and few, poor reinforcements, know this as well as the Ukrainians do. Russians aren’t stupid either.

    Putin is now apparently willing to negotiate ending hostilities – but his negotiating stance consists of “give us everything we want and we’ll leave you alone, for now.” Plus, when Ukraine gave Russia back its nooooks, Russia promised to respect Ukraine’s borders in perpetuity – so what price any of Putin’s new proposals? The Ukrainians know that this is going to be a long, hard, slow war – but they’re winning, and there’s no negotiated way out of the mess that stops Russia rebuilding its army and coming right back for more, so they don’t have much choice in the matter.

    And the only way to stop Russia chowing-down on Ukraine and coming after Poland (which Putin has already said they will) without fighting World War Three is to keep Ukraine winning – we don’t have much choice either.

    2. That Poland crap is bullshit!
      You fire missile from inside Poland and not expect retaliation is crazy thinking. They’re a massive huge country who don’t need to expand more by a useless and senseless conflict.
      Ukraine is totally different being manipulated into another NATO state.

      1. You did not understand the point about Poland. None is firing “from inside “Poland”.

        About russia being huge: most of russia is uninhabitable wasteland, they have always been expanding (like cancer). Sometime the horde got pushed back sometimes the horde pushed. Expecting them to stop being themselves is height of naivety. they need to be bleed, collapsed and killed in numbers largest possible. Not nuking them in late 40s was a crime against humanity.

        It is about people and resources not landmass. They are demographically collapsing and one of the reasons for their invasion was simple population replacement. Already close to half of their soldiers are mooselimb, where you think this is heading? They know it, so they are trying to bleed their own non russian population while russyfying Ukrainians. For the same reason they are kidnapping Ukrainian children.

        Ukraine is not being manipulated into NATO. Prior to orc invasion majority of Ukrainians were not interested. Only after the invasion the people of Ukraine realized that the only chance for their long term survival as Ukrainians is NATO membership.

        So to summarize: you are wrong about everything.

    3. As I said earlier, I’m not ‘rootin for Poutin,’ but I cannot believe the claim that Ukraine is winning this war.

      1. Ukraine IS winning. And it’s winning in the only court it needs to – Russian public opinion.

        Last year at this time, 72% of Russians polled in favour of Putin’s “Special Military Operation”. This was to be expected; the Russian propaganda machine is very polished, has long, long practise and is wholly under Putin’s thumb; he told them what to report and they did, and Russians are naturally paranoid – Putin told them it was a defence act to forestall a NATO attack on Mother Russia, and they happily believed. And besides, Ukrainians are just Russians with funny accents, right? – they deplore their separation from Russia as much as Russians do, right? They’ll happily rejoin our Great Society, once we deal with a few profiteers, malcontents and Nazis, right? And all Russians deplore how many ‘Russians’ come from the darkest east; well here’re many million “REAL” Russians, they’re natural additions to counterbalance the ‘Stans – whose birthrates are all five-times what ours is, or more – right?

        The first big check was the failure of the great Russian army’s sweeping blitz attack to take Kiev; whaddo you MEAN they didn’t just surrender and welcome us with open arms? And whaddo you MEAN they’re fighting us tooth-and-claw, and fighting us better than our great army is fighting them? And what happened to our son, and Yuri’s son from down the street – when will they be home from all this? And why did Vitaly’s son from the next block, come home in a box?

        So now Putin is calling-up the next great conscription; why didn’t the last great conscription win the war? And Russians are both paranoid and conspiracy theorists, a legacy of decades of endless Soviet lies in Pravda (“Truth”) and Izvestiya (“News”). The joke went, “We have Pravda and Izvestiya, and there is no pravda in Izvestiya and no izvestiya in Pravda”; Russians used to figure-out what was really going-on by what was NOT in the news. That hasn’t changed, and there are ugly stories making it back from Ukraine that, in the absence of any news they can trust (and proclamations that it’s against the law to report Russian casualties, which “everybody knows” are happening in large number amid appalling conditions in the trenches), they’re naturally adept at putting snippets together by themselves. And why did the Kremlin say Russian forces are in Ukraine fighting Nazis? – it’s sounding like WE’RE the Nazis, and Ukrainians are fighting US.

        And the war is still going on, and the longer it does, and the more young Russians come home in boxes (with death benefits being stolen by corrupt officials), the more people are souring on the whole war. There are few absolutes in war, but one of them is that Putin CAN NOT lose face; if he does, he’ll end-up like Mussolini or Ceausescu. That Ukraine is still fighting, and all the “grand victories” the Kremlin proclaims are actually piddling or transitory while Kherson is now (and Kharkiv is still) Ukrainian, put the lie to Putin and his grand reestablishment of the Russian empire; and he can’t take very much of that kind of sunlight.

        And Ukrainians still have the pictures of bodies in the streets of Bucha, hands tied and shot in the head. THAT is why they don’t want to rejoin Russia; my hope is that we continue supporting them, so they – and other formerly-Soviet parts of Europe that Putin covets – won’t have to.

        P.S., NATO has nothing to do with Putin’s war on Ukraine – it’s Maskirovka, tovarishch!

      2. Ask yourself this: do you think Pootin would have invaded Ukraine if he knew where he would be today? Ukraine has won survival. Russia has wounded whoreself probably mortally. The war now is about how much of Ukraine can be saved and hopefully recovered. It is no longer about imposing russian mir over all Ukraine, conquering half and turning the other half into Belarus 2.0 and then marching on to Moldova. That was the plan, it got nowhere.

        Russia has achieved one strategic objective which was carving out the land corridor to occupied Crimea. All other successes or failures were at tactical or at most operational level (tactical < operational < strategic < political). The strategic success they achieved was paid for with military, personnel and (most importantly) economic losses outweighing it by orders of magnitude.

        1. Am I hearing that Ukraine is winning the war simply because the Russians aren’t?

          Well, there’s a third possibility. A stalemate. From what I understand, both sides have dug in. It appears that neither side is gaining or losing ground at the moment.

          However, the West appears to be disappointed that Ukraine didn’t gain as much ground as they had hoped with their recent push this past summer, so on we go in this circle of death, for both sides.

          1. It is not about ground. Russia’s goal was subjugation of Ukraine, they lost and paid a huge price for it. Ukraine’s goal was survival, they won and paid a huge price for it. It is a war the Ukraine has to fight to survive, it is literarily live free or die for them. It is a war that russia should have never started, it is a disaster for them, and all their attempts to run in front of the problems as fast as they can, will only burry them further. Good, I just hope that West does not send them aid when they collapse.

    4. Yes, the Russians in Western propaganda are always painted as incompetent, undersupplied with second-rate equipment, and hanging by a thread, merely scraping by through irrational sacrifice of huge numbers, yet somehow pose a credibly existential threat to overrun Eastern Europe unless Crimea is flipped back to Ukrainian administration through additional borrowing of hundreds of billions of dollars, far exceeding the Russian military budget.

      This is among the accumulating reasons the West has dwindling credibility outside the West. As exiled Arestovish recently observed in hindsight, Ukraine backed the wrong horse.

      Russia will most likely establish control over traditional Russian-speaking territory and connive to keep the rest of Ukraine from rebecoming a NATO launchpad. Russia has adaptively thrived under the challenge of US sanctions and infrastructure attacks by maintaining measured proportionality in the eyes of the non-West while the US has made itself look foolish, vindictive and unreliable. Russia is not interested in genuinely negotiating with the US because the US lacks credibility to honour any deal, post the Minsk Accord and subsequent developments. China and Russia have levereaged non-West distrust of the US into a somewhat unified MIddle East against US/Israel control of the Suez, sidestepping Israel’s role as US gatekeeper of the Suez by selectively choking off access to the Red Sea. Again, all these geostrategic shifts have been enabled by US imperial arrogance and its diminishing moral and military credibility outside the West, whereas Russia has been surprisingly resilient (as a small gas station with guns) functioning as a nonlinear complex adaptive system that the increasingly sclerotic US has been unable to match.

      As always, if you want to get a sense of where things are heading geostrategically in the region, watch what Turkey does.

      1. Bingo. And the whole South Africa will honour the ICC “arrest warrant” thing provides the SA supreme court the topcover they need to OK South Africa dumping membership in the ICC, due to its refusal to honour South Africa’s charges of warcrimes against the IDF.

        The West is being systematically outmaneuvered and outthought. It will very soon be outgunned as well (in fact it already is in the Persian Gulf).

        I warned this would happen, repeatedly, while working for a Western government. I was laughed out of the room by all the usual “D.E.I. Putin is HEEEeeetler” bunch.

        They are not laughing now.

        1. “…while working for a Western government….”

          I did not know they had Orc Fifth Column Affirmative Action plan, or did you just apply as mentally disabled? Anyway, good thing you got shitcanned.

      2. “Russia has adaptively thrived ”

        LOL they are out of ball bearings, tires, elevator parts and basic cancer drugs. They are grinding to a halt on every economic front. How many airliners did they ground this week?

        “Minsk Accord”

        LOL again, lets count all the international treaties russia has broken:
        UN Charter 45
        Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty 70
        Helsinki Accords 75
        Belovezha Accords 91–92
        Budapest Memo 94
        Black Sea Fleet Treaty 97
        Friendship Treaty 98
        Treaty on Azov Sea & Kerch Strait ‘03
        Karkiv pact ‘10

        Probably the last international agreement they honored was Ribbentrop-Molotov.

    5. “And the only way to stop Russia chowing-down on Ukraine and coming after Poland (which Putin has already said they will) without fighting World War Three is to keep Ukraine winning – ”

      Great. When do we start this ‘winning’?

      The Americans engineered this war, starting in 2014. It will stop only when they decide it is time to stop, since it would be political suicide to end the war the only way possible other than negotiations: NATO troops on the ground *fighting and dying* against Russian troops.

      You can continue to fantasize about Ukraine ‘winning’ for as long as you wish, but reality just doesn’t care about your feelings, sorry. You either negotiate an end to this conflict now, or later after thousands more Ukrainians have died.

      1. “The Americans engineered this war, starting in 2014. It will stop only when they decide it is time to”

        Your IQ has to be very low to even conjure up this thought in your mind. Unbelievable. Russian propaganda really does work on the weakminded.

        1. “Your IQ has to be very low”

          Yes, 1 Freddie is a basic IQ unit, just like 1 Steven Seagal is a basic acting unit. and 1 Helen Thomas is a beauty unit.

        2. ““The Americans engineered this war, starting in 2014. It will stop only when they decide it is time to”

          Your IQ has to be very low to even conjure up this thought in your mind. Unbelievable. Russian propaganda really does work on the weakminded.”

          Stay in your bubble, Allan. You’ll be safe there.

          1. Freddy
            This is an O’Butthole started war, so yes 2014, or in reality 2006!
            Try keeping up, by quit competing with the COLON for the stupidity prize!

          3. @Colonialista:

            That is true, but what is also true was that the West scuttled a potential peace agreement between Ukraine and Russia, and encouraged Ukraine to join NATO. Yes the West did engineer the entire conflict starting with the coup in Ukraine.

            @GYM… You truly are a wonder. You can actually dis someone while agreeing with the central point, and embarrass yourself at the same time. All in two brief sentences. Truly remarkable.

          4. @fc:

            Most importantly: you’re showing the typical western arrogance in your comments. To you Ukraine is a pawn, Ukrainians have been duped and have no agenda or desire to self determination. All your points stem from that. You will never understand what is happening when you continue looking at Ukrainians like that.

            “That is true, but what is also true was that the West scuttled a potential peace agreement between Ukraine and Russia, ”

            That is an urban legend. After Bucha there was no way Ukrainians (who were at the moment successfully liberating large swats of their territory) would accept any peace. Besides any peace with russia only meant a delay of an attack that would inevitably happen when Pootin felt strong again.

            “…and encouraged Ukraine to join NATO. ”

            Again a myth. NATO did not encourage Ukraine to join before the war. Indeed majority of Ukrainians were not interested before the war. Few months after the war started, during visit in Kyiv, Kaczynski was the first who came up on the record with the idea of permanent NATO presence in Ukraine (not Ukrainian membership yet) and everyone looked at him as if he was insane (he often has those spur of the moment spontaneous ideas and flaps his gums before engaging his brains…) Anyway the idea of Ukraine in NATO was not treated seriously before the war by anyone.

            “Yes the West did engineer the entire conflict starting with the coup in Ukraine.”

            Nonsense. We have been over it. Yes some NGOs noticed that Revolution of Dignity had a chance and they supported it but it was after not before. Anyway ousting a Muscovy puppet was a good thing.

      2. “The Americans engineered this war, starting in 2014”

        Fred, if this is true, why were the Russians stupid enough to fall for it?

        Russia did not need to invade Ukraine.

        1. ““The Americans engineered this war, starting in 2014”

          Fred, if this is true, why were the Russians stupid enough to fall for it?”

          Who says they were stupid? Because it served their own purpose as well, would be my guess. If you were looking for an excuse to invade Ukraine and annex some ‘buffer’ territory between yourself and NATO, would you not take advantage of a mistake like that?

          “Russia did not need to invade Ukraine.”

          No, they didn’t ‘need to’…they chose to. And they will leave if and when they feel like doing so.

        2. Russia held off invading Ukraine during Trump’s presidency. There has to be an explanation for that, and the explanation was that Trump managed to negotiate a cessation of hostilities to keep the peace. All that ended when Biden was installed.

        3. One reason: if Ukraine is in NATO, missile flight time to Moscow is 7 minutes. Russia can simply.never live with Ukraine in NATO, and US nukes in Kharkov. Period. For the same reason the US would never tolerate Mexico joining any Russo-Chinese Eurasian Defence umbrella.

          Finland is now going to get the Ukraine treatment next, except minus the bombs and missiles.

          Too bad, it used to be a decent place when it was neutral. Between Moscow pulverizing their energy supplies with sanctions, the complete suspension of all Russian tourism and forex, and floods of migrants pouring into the country, it’ll be Somalia with snow soon enough. Sad.

          You DO realise NATO will soon require ALL member states to take in their “fair share” of Muslim savages, if they want to keep being under the “defence umbrella” right?

          1. Russia got nothing to tolerate or not. Russia got only to be disposed off. The whore is dying, the sooner the better. We should now be working on repatriating all traitors like you back to russia. Putting you in camps should be a first step.

          2. – One reason: if Ukraine is in NATO, missile flight time to Moscow is 7 minutes. Russia can simply.never live with Ukraine in NATO, and US nukes in Kharkov. Period.

            This is a preposterous nonsense that can be dismissed instantly by looking a map. Missile flight time from Ukraine to Moscow is not significantly different to that from Latvia (from Khakiv it is identical). It’s nearly 20 years since Latvia joined NATO, and Russia was never threatened (indeed, there were no significant NATO forces in Latvia at all until 2017, as a rather slow response to Russia’s 2014 aggression).

            If you are genuinely concerned about short flight times, check out nuclear missile armed Kaliningrad.

          3. “If you are genuinely concerned about short flight times, ”

            He is about as disingenuous as it gets. He knows he is lying, but he knows there is enough disgruntled morons here that will hang on to every semi logical argument that supports their invented counternarrative. He is a genuine orc manipulator/influencer, they are useful idiots.

            “…check out nuclear missile armed Kaliningrad.”

            Or the nukes Pootin just deployed to Belarus.

  8. Peace is not an option. That is what Americans are being told. Because Putin is a baaaaaad man, mmmmKay? Just like Trump is a baaaaad man mmmmKay? The LGBTQ … MUST be deployed in Russia! Anyone who disagrees is a “right wing Extremist”.

    PDJT constrained Putin by actually meeting with him, and letting him know … eye-to-eye … that his USA wouldn’t support NATO expansion or aggression … nor Russia’s. In simple terms … that’s how people get shit done. Face-to-face.

    Can you even IMAGINE poopy pants Biden meeting with Putin, face-to-face? … or WORSE … Jake Sullivan!? These aren’t “men” … they’re hollow constructs of woke ideology. Can you imagine Vogue cover boy Zelensky meeting with Putin? I know which leader would not be impressed by the Steve Jobs inspired olive drab t-shirt.

    The best thing for Ukraine is to cede 20% of Ukraine to Russia, and to leave the region alone. You know, just like the territory and population President poopy pants is ceding to black and brown people crossing our Southern Border in numbers that make the “estimated” Russian casualties in Ukraine look like a rounding error. Seriously. America has been invaded by an army 50x larger than the Russian men deployed and lost in Ukraine. Talk about your illegal invasions … right?

    1. As long as NATO continues to threaten Russia, you’ll be seeing a far more aggressive Poutin in response.

      Trump was right… AGAIN!

      This time, I don’t think Poutine will take a second Trump term at his word, because of what happened to Trump as a result of his first term. Poutin has learned that the US government will change yet again, and with the change in government, comes a change in policy, so he’ll take that into consideration when he negotiates with Trump… assuming of course, Trump ever assumes command again (which I have my serious doubts — Of course, I’m hoping I’m wrong on that).

      Joe Biden has destroyed any hope of long-term peace in the region for generations to come.

        2. You really think Putin wants to go head to head with (Nato & US) . Look how poorly they have done in Ukraine.

          Some folks need to step back and take another look.

          1. No kidding. Against NATO leftovers.

            Imagine if they had to face stealth fighters and bombers, aircraft carriers, longer range cruise missiles.

            They don’t even know how to defend against mig29 launched storm shadows.

          2. I might add: in their own backyard too.

            Just about the whole world is surprised at how bad Russias unjustified war has gone for them.

          3. Busty
            SOOOOO, stoltenBERG was lying when he said they NATO, has been at war with Russia since 2014. Try keeping up COLON wanna be!

          4. alla unDORK
            Russia’s optical guidance systems do not recognize “stealth”, they just down the flying scrap.
            And that is why the new F-15 EX have new technology to counter optical guidance systems, so they can fly top hat for the F-35 “stealth”:-))))

        3. NATO is a greater threat to its members, especially the European members, than Putin is. When the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact dissolved a lot of people in the West who should have been given a redundancy cheque and a nice “Thank you and good luck in your new career” letter, weren’t.

          1. Sadly … useless bureaucracies never die natural deaths. They must get a wooden stake through their hearts as I am hoping PDJT will do this time around. If NATO was REALLY a useful entity … the US alone wouldn’t be bearing the 90% brunt of funding the puppet government in Ukraine. No, all the member States of NATO would be funding and strategerizing their war of Russian regime change.

        6. Russia is a threat. Did I say otherwise?
          But the bigger threat is the globalist-building empire that threatens all of us, or can you not see that?

          Yes, I’ve been called delusional before, but like Alex Jones, I always seem to be vindicated.
          As for your predictions, well, I’ll put my record up against yours anytime, dear.

    2. Gazans say they are paying for donated food as videos show armed men commandeering aid trucks

      What a mess. But will they vote for them again?

      1. Yes. Or else. Just like voting for Trudeau. If you oppose Trudeau … you’ll get charged with “mischief”, put on trial … and starved out as all your bank accounts are frozen. Just like the Hamas treatment …

  9. What Black Sea flagship doing? Kaboom!

    What 4 su34s and an su30 doing this week? Kaboom! Zero air sorties from Russia since.

    No control over the black sea.

    Yes Kate, Ukrainians are allowed to defend themselves against unjustified invasion.

    1. How about America defend its borders from 15-20 million men marching into our country. That’s a MUCH higher priority for me than fighting “homophobe” Putin. And if Putin cannot even defeat a depleted Ukraine … how is it that we’re told he’s gonna start wars across Europe … and even start a Nuclear war against America? Come on propagandists … at least make your stories consistent. But leftists aren’t known for logic or consistency.

        1. Don’t be silly … it’s an asymmetrical war on our border. Although shelling DC might be a reasonable theatre of the war

        2. “Hmmm I wonder how helpful 155mm shells and F16s would.be at the border?”

          As helpful as anything else provided by NATO without the manpower to make proper use of it. Try to keep up, Allan.

      1. “Unjustified”. OK, boomer.”

        Yeah, I had to laugh at that one too. Just keep poking that bear over and over again…what’s the worst that could happen, right?

        Not surprised to see such a denial of reality from a Simpleton(tm), though….they are definitely not known for their ability to reason.

    3. You don’t have too much good to talk about these days Allan. Anyway as for your claim the Russians don’t have control over the Black Sea does that mean all Russian warships are now in port? Where’s the Ukrainian Navy right now Allan?

      1. “…does that mean all Russian warships are now in port? ”

        Yes, practically all of Black Sea Fleet have been moved out of their primary bases in Crimea and relocated further east. Most of those that weren’t have been sunk. Those that are left, rarely venture out of port. That is why the grain corridor is wide open.

        “Where’s the Ukrainian Navy right now Allan?”

        They did not have a meaningful navy to begin with. Try to keep up.

          2. There’s only been one Russian ship sank recently, the one that allegedly triggered the exodus of the Russian Navy from the the Black Sea, another of your claims I don’t believe. Your claims won’t stand the test of time, and for the Ukrainians and their supporters that time is running out.

          3. Facepalm, orcs departed most of their rust buckets east BEFORE the last ship got blown up. She was one of the few that were left. Do try to keep up. I gave you the list, all is verifiable.

        2. “Facepalm, orcs departed most of their rust buckets east BEFORE the last ship got blown up.”

          I don’t believe pretty much anything you claim. The good news is you’ve been getting quieter lately and so have a lot of the Ukraine war cheerleaders, the upshot being the delusional narrative about Russia losing the war is fading, and slowly being replaced by a more realistic, pragmatic narrative, namely Ukraine is going to have to give up some territory.

          1. “I don’t believe pretty much anything you claim. The good news is you’ve been getting quieter lately and so have a lot of the Ukraine war cheerleaders, the upshot being the delusional narrative about Russia losing the war is fading, and slowly being replaced by a more realistic, pragmatic narrative, namely Ukraine is going to have to give up some territory.”

            As we predicted one ONE YEAR ago now.

            It’s hilarious to see the not-so-subtle change in language though, isn’t it?

            Its no longer “Ukraine will triumphantly drive the ORCs back across their border and into Russia itself, which will then totally collapse in defeat!!”

            Now it’s “The Ukrainians have won…their survival!!”. LOL…

            (no mention, of course, of the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian lives that have been lost, nor the 20-25% of their territory ceded)

          2. “I don’t believe pretty much anything you claim. ”

            Then why do you bother asking me questions? Besides, it is not a matter of belief, it is a fact that is easily verifiable.

          3. “It’s hilarious to see the not-so-subtle change in language though, isn’t it?”

            Nah you’re just molesting the same strawman. You were unable to do anything else since you came here, low IQ and all that. You’re like YW/Pauline only dumber.

    1. Pssst … those protestors were Hitler-apologist communists. Try to provide a little context to your history, eh?

      1. Yes, we should. Sudetenland was exactly what Donbas is right now.

        Appeasement to Hitler caused WW2.

        1. “Appeasement to Hitler caused WW2.”

          That’s the one thing you’ve said that I can actually agree with, but yes, even a stopped clock… (if you know what I mean) That’s a universally accepted fact that I doubt anyone can seriously disagree with.

          However if you intend to justify NATO’s presence in the Ukraine with that logic, know that if it wasn’t for the west’s involvement, Russia probably (note: I said “probably”, because there is no way to know for sure) would not have felt the need to invade Ukraine in 2022.

  11. Re NY Post Inertia and dementia https://nypost.com/2023/12/12/opinion/obamas-clueless-foreign-policy-left-behind-the-chaos-we-face-today/

    “His (Trump) wisdom was of the negative kind: In foreign affairs, he lacked the ambition, and probably the imagination, to reinvent reality according to his fondest desires.”
    “Against the grain of his personal and rhetorical excesses, Trump dealt with the world straight up.”

    The author totally fails to understand Trump’s Foreign Policy even when stated by his campaign slogan. MAGA means Foreign Policy is directed by best interest of the United States. Not the Deep State and the Military Industrial Complex, nor the countless congressmen and senators beholden to them. That is why the panic is becoming so obvious. Trump will end the Administration’s gravy train of wars, Foreign Aid and Deep State shenanigans that encircle the world at huge cost to the USA. America First means that (Foreign Aid) money will be diverted to border security, infrastructure, energy independence, social programs, in other words to Americans first.

  12. allaCOLON and orcCOLON

    ” However, think “stopgap.” The sanctions didn’t block Russia, they walled-in the WEST.”

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