As anyone who has watched the TV series The Curse of Oak Island knows, ground penetrating radar isn’t quite the equivalent of Superman’s X-Ray vision. But according to journalists at APTN, the problem does not lie with the limitations of the technology, but rather with some dastardly people seizing on these limitations to disrupt a narrative.
Indigenous communities searching for unmarked graves with ground-penetrating radar have encountered a rising number of individuals questioning, or outright denying, that children disappeared or died in residential schools, says a new report from an independent special interlocutor.
… First Nations that have detected possible unmarked graves are exploring the possible options. Many communities are hoping to avoid disturbing the sites even more.
Upon discovery of a possible crime scene, wouldn’t the first priority be to have forensic investigators exhume and examine the remains? Apparently not, since that would “undermine” things. Far better to obscure the issue with a rambling discussion about actual versus potential:
“It’s also really dangerous because we do know how to distinguish a rock from a potential grave. But sometimes when denialists get a hold of some of these narratives, they use that to undermine.”
so there is still no evidence that these are graves. Only the desire that they are.
How DARE you palefaces deny the “story-telling” of our Holy people over the past 125 years. Even your heap big Holy man in fancy white robes wept for the murdered Native children
You can’t argue with liberals but you can agree with them.
Take their entire story at face value: 215 native children were murdered and buried in unmarked and mass graves in Kamloops.
Biggest murder and genocide in Canadian history.
So how many of the staff at the residential school have been arrested for their murders so far?
How is the investigation going?
What does the forensic evidence from the 215 exhumed bodies tell us about the nature of their murders, were they shot, poisoned, strangled, etc? What were their names?
How big is the RCMP task force investigating this?
There is an RCMP task force investigating this, isn’t there?
Ohhhhhhh mommmmaaaaa … “can’t we all just get along?”
Let’s not open old wounds … but we SHOULD profit from them
How about what Governing Party was in charge when the Act was enacted.
Naturally neither APTN nor Canadian Press allow public commentary on their supposed news item. They don’t dare call for an actual criminal investigation, or they would be immediately shown to be the abetting the biggest lie in Canadian history. It’s worth observing that these allegations are never made in any forum where they could be challenged or debated.
If someone would pay me for my time I could create a complete population analysis of any and all Indian reserves at least until 1931, the date of the last released census. Alberta has federal censuses available every 5 years from 1911 until 1931. As kids were at least 6 years old before school there should be close to 100% inclusion from censuses alone. Some had names like Joseph Cree or Alexis Stoney because they lacked surnames but these could be cross referenced to birth, baptism, death, or a myriad of other records, including reserve or Indian Affairs records. A person using elementary research could chart every kid and every family on every reserve in a year or less. School typically lasted from 6 to 15. I’m guessing the number of Indian kids in Alberta who reached the age of six and disappeared without paperwork before the age of 15 is pretty close to zero. Wasn’t this already done for the Lies and Animosity Commission?
Whatever you do, don’t dig.
Ground penetrating radar is closely related to seismic exploration in the petroleum industry. The difference is that the former can penetrate to about 5 meters in depth, and latter to 5 or 10 kilometres.
Would a petroleum geologist or geophysicist examine a seismic section and unequivocally declare that they have found oil without drilling? Never. Not in a million years. They would be laughed out of the industry.
Fine. Prove us wrong. Put a shovel in the ground. On national TV.
EXPERTS!
‘we do know how to distinguish a rock from a potential grave,’ says expert
But can you distinguish an actual grave from an potential grave? 6000 potential graves and not one confirmed, nothing.
“But sometimes when denialists get a hold of some of these narratives, they use that to undermine.” No, that’s just stating the obvious.
I’ve seen more impressive potential Graves at auditions for “Mission: Impossible”.
“But can you distinguish an actual grave from an potential grave? ”
Or the drain tiles of a septic field?
The problem I have with ascribing EVERY anomaly in the ground as an unmarked grave is that there seems to be a lot more ‘graves’ than missing children who went to residential schools. If a family is missing a child, wouldn’t they know and if the child was sent to and never returned from a residential school wouldn’t the parents have questions, like ‘what happened to my child?” I’m not diminishing any of the harm from residential schools or that children died while attending residential schools (BTW at no greater rate than any child during that time period – childhood deaths were high regardless of the community before vaccines and antibiotics), but wouldn’t it be more beneficial to count the actual number of children who didn’t return from residential schools, and start tracking those children rather than jumping to the conclusion that every anomaly in the ground is an unmarked grave of an Indian child murdered by residential school staff? But then you couldn’t shake down the government for more and more money
Probably not … because the family was drunk on paleface firewater. And then died before age 35
Has nobody considered the use of cadaver dogs? They were used a short time back in a search for Amelia Earhardt (sp?), on an island in the south pacific. To no avail unfortunately, but more than one dog signaled remains in one area.
They can be trained to find old body parts!
You owe us tens of billions more!
Did you notice that in the middle of “Wannalottawampum” is “ottawa”?
“Did you notice that in the middle of “Wannalottawampum” is “ottawa”?”
Good catch!
If there are unmarked graves of missing children at residential schools, common decency would dictate exhuming the bodies, identifying them, and returning them to their families for proper burials.
“If there are unmarked graves of missing children at residential schools, common decency would dictate exhuming the bodies, identifying them, and returning them to their families for proper burials.”
It would. Someone should ask them point-blank why they are not doing so.
Kinda late but I think everyone forgets that any bodies that were buried, unless they were preserved in a coffin, would be dirt by now. All that would be left is disturbed soil, if that. Experts “may” be able to exhume some of the soil and search for human DNA but even that would be a long shot. The best we can do is acknowledge the wrongs done in our name by our government and try not to repeat the past.
They manage to extract DNA from every random Neanderthal. Ain’t rocket science, it’s genetics. The meat will likely be gone but the bones are still there.
Maybe they can’t afford to hire anyone actually capable of using a shovel?
Aboriginal Ground Penetrating Radar is so special.
The “Facts” we are expected ,under threat of censor,to swallow here are amusing.
There being no facts involved in this entire extortion racket.
So they can tell a rock from a hard place can they?
Funny how other,actual experienced, users of GPR cannot claim such clarity,even when their paychecks depend upon it..The final answer has always been “Dig Here” we have a point of interest.
As our intellectual superiors and their parasitic comrades will not allow the use of shovels to expose their scam,I would now suggest a better use of these same shovels…
To beat these same liars and thieves senseful…as they are already senseless and way beyond the bounds of decency or tolerance..
And these days,thanks to our Progressive Comrades,using a shovel is the only safe way,you might contract AIDS using bare knuckles.
It’s also worth mentioning that the site of the the “215 murdered native children” (yeah, right) was a graveyard *before* the residential school was built, and that most of the bodies there would have actually been buried by natives. The fact that they did not maintain the grave markers (made out of wood, of course) is hardly our fault, either.