At the very least shift the funding directly to patients. Hospitals and administrators will then have to treat people like customers instead of liabilities. In the current set up everything is backwards because patients are a problem for the system.
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By the way we shut down the entire country for two years, ran up all the credit cards and scared the shit out of everyone because that was supposed to “save” the system. Not make it worse. Thank-you “experts”.
Block funding of hospitals just drives up costs. If hospitals only got paid for services provided, I’m guessing that a dead Indian wouldn’t sit in emergency for 48 hours in Winnipeg with no-one noticing. If hospitals were paid per knee transplant, I’m guessing old people wouldn’t be spending years in pain. At the moment patients are a major inconvenience and a total loss.
Took me two full years after initial consultation to get a knee replaced.
Your supposed Great Health care “system” at work.
In the US..?? A week or 2 at the most.
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Haven’t had a family doctor in over 7 years.
That’s Canada’s free ‘Health Care System.’
The waiting list thing is a joke.
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Part of the problem is that many physicians won’t take on new clientele unless they are referred. The last time I had one on a continuing basis was more than 30 years ago and I haven’t found one that I liked and could trust since then.
If you want to live, don’t get sick.
Need I remind everyone, this isn’t a bug. It’s a feature!
Correct Francisco and scar the system would be far better served if hospitals billed for the services they provided as they provided them.
Instead they’re given a budget which they have to manage and every patient that comes in is a drain on that budget.
However if in shielding their budget the administrators end up having too much money left at the end of the year, they need to spend it or they would potentially get their budget reduced.
So then the money gets spent on Other things rather than patient care.
At least pick a couple hospitals and try this style of funding out.
Yep….had a relative – an excellent doctor – who left Canada due to our medicare debacle, and practiced and managed large hospital units in US and abroad.
Same story. Instead of starting the fiscal year with a budget of X-millions of dollars, where every patient who walks in the door becomes a drain on your budget – start the year with a budget of zero. (Like most businesses do.) That way, every patient who walks in the door is a chance to earn some $$, even if those $$ are paid by the gov’t.
Gov’t funded medical care looks very different from gov’t administered medical care!
Of course, that would require an ideological admission that Capitalism works better than Socialism, and would raise the usual “profit is eeeevil” cries from the usual suspects. On profit driven platforms like Twitter and Google.
Face it, even Elizabeth May’s drunken rants were made possible by products created by profit driven booze companies. And taxpayer largess, of course.
This is they system that Dr Brian Day proposed when he was head of the CMA.
Each person gets a personal health care savings account funded annually by the government. When you are young the fund grows because you do not use health care. As you age you use the resources in your fund to pay for private health facilities. In the last 5 years of your life you will be using the majority of those funds.
You become an asset to a provider, not a liability (as it is now). If you need an MRI it happens in days not weeks. Health care costs will go down, service will go up. It gets the public union monopoly out of the delivery too.
The only drawback with this is who owns the hospitals. There would have to be very strict rules on ownership where violation will bring criminal charges to anyone trying to circumvent them including bought off politicians. You don’t want a Blackrock or Vanguard owning everything.
I’d swear that Canada’s public health system has evolved to where it spends more money on waiting list management than it does on doctors.
Nick.
Precisely
And it’s not just 1 waiting list…
You’ll go on the waiting list to see a specialist, who will call you at some point in the future to schedule a further in the future appointment.
Then you’ll go on the consultation waiting list, wait for the consultation waiting list when they will move you to the surgical waiting list.
And only then will you be on the official waiting list to get care.
Or, you go to the US, pay for it yourself, and get rapid care.
Privatizing health care in Canada today is a bridge too far for the average socialist brain-addled Canadian. The current single payer system is pretty much irreformable. It should be slowly allowed to flounder and or die as private alternatives should be allowed to coexist and flourish like in every other country except North Korea and Canada.
Canadian healthcare proves that the government can always be depended upon…to royally F*** things up beyond recognition.
The commies just could not leave hospitals in the care of the various churches and charities.
Too many paper pushers not enough doctors and nurses. Government bureaucracies are a major problem.
Yes. AHS, for example, is management top-heavy. It is bleeding front-line staff left and right. It is committed to hiring more staff…in management and administration. Doesn’t matter if UCP or NDP is in control. Management is lining its own pockets and letting the rest fall apart.
This is because the bureaucrats are deciding where to spend the money. The metric of success in the public sector is the size of your budget and head count. It’s never about results. This is why they are unfit to provide any service available via private suppliers. They are not acting in the interests of the public, they are acting in their own interests. Notice how all the countries that did exactly the same thing for COVID, that’s our unelected bureaucrats colluding with themselves around the world and the UN/WHO.
It is the same ole story. For years now. We want more money. But more money doesn’t address the underlying fault. System efficacy. But I have a solution. Change the names of all of the nation’s hospitals with indigenous names and watch the money flow from the Feds.
Those name changes are occurring right now, at least here in northern Ontario , and I assume elsewhere. It won’t help. Likely means more and more that health care will be based on racist, cultural and diversity ideals.
What ever happened to those army guys who went into the old age homes during the plague? I met one on a walk. They seem kinda bitter and angry about what they saw. Has not a journo gone and done the news hound thing? I think rearranging the deck chairs is not going to be enough for some people.
It’s a for profit system: administrators, boards, docs, nurses, etc.
In a private model there would be private capital. In our model it is our capital and the insiders use it to their benefit. If public capital is free, why don’t we all get a summer palace like Trudeau on Lake Harrington?
Ralph Klein said it years ago. “When you walk through the door of a hospital your viewed as a cost not a customer!”
I’ve said it here before that when I take the cow to the vet…he gives the bill to the owner. Me!
When I go to the hospital they give the bill to….
It’s always the same with all government “services” and at all levels. Governments NEVER measure themselves by results….only by how much money they can piss away.
and the size of the bureaucracy…
Yep.. convert our entire healthcare system into one big long PCR testing queue and isolation facilities to the exclusion of all else.. and this is what happens. And any Canadian with an ounce of common sense could have predicted this by summer of 2020.
What our political system needs is not proportional representation, but TERM LIMITS for MPs. Elected, re-elected, and then out. We need more plumbers and gas station jockeys running to become MPs. It’s the only way that the gap between politician and citizen can be narrowed.
Forget the re-election part. The best thing about term limits is you eliminate the conflict of interest inherent in re-election. In deranged societies like ours you should actually eliminate the voting part (along with political parties) and just randomly appoint representatives like jury duty for one term. If very few laws get passed, that’s not a bad thing.
Eliminate the pensions and you achieve the same effect. MP Pensions are legalized bank robbery or my name isn’t Frank Drebbin.
In the United States, every patient is viewed as a customer. In Canada, we are an expense.
That’s why they treat us like shit. We are simply a pain in their collective asses. they want the paycheques, but don’t like having to deal with sick people.
You know it’s good to know that the Provincial Government, and the Federal government have separate taxpayers, that are all willing to fund the Health System that Tommy Douglas built…
Our universal ride on public transit wont be happy until they eat up every last dollar we have.. Then they will start killing us off to keep themselves in the money.. Yes, government is that evil..
The most costly corrupt, wasteful, incompetent public health system in rhe world, and it’s never enough money.
“The most costly corrupt, wasteful, incompetent public health system in rhe world, and it’s never enough money.”
And yet the mere mention of a publicly funded, privately delivered health care system like *all those European ones* that are ranked above us is enough to send Liberal or NDP supporters into a frenzy:
“You want AMERICAN STYLE health care! You LOVE PROFITS and HATE POOR PEOPLE!!”
No, we just want a health care system that works. Like so many other countries enjoy. Is that too much to ask?
(and don’t even get me started on how many ICU beds per capita Canada has compared to European nations, or what our doctor/nurse to administrator/ manager ratio is…)
Canada’s Wuhan flu response was nothing but confirmation that politicians and health bureaucrats – despite all the flags and whistles of SARS, H1NI, Ebola, etc – knew the abysmal state of affairs in our health systems and were petrified that the virus would put their decades of criminal negligence on display for all to see.
Bang on Jamie.
They knew the “Service” would fail.
So they locked up the healthy, to “save healthcare”.
Any fool who still parrots “Free healthcare” after these last two years,ain’t smart enough to breathe unassisted.
All through these two years of “Just two weeks to save the system” spending was insane..
But not on medical staff or more medical facilities..millions spent of compliance enforcement..
Death really is too good for people this evil..
Hell,if we had a functioning healthcare system,we could revive them so we can execute them again..