Safe And Effective ®

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Most vaccines — against polio, smallpox, measles and other diseases — prevent infection and spread. But not COVID-19 vaccines. Now that the battle is against the delta variant, they’ve become disease-tamers rather than infection preventers.

Governors and mayors from Maine to Los Angeles are demanding that public employees, and even nurses and doctors, hailed just months ago as heroes, get vaxxed or go without a job.

Just as politicians don’t read the bills before voting on them, they don’t keep up with science but still want to tell the rest of us what to do.

The groundbreaking findings in Lancet show that fully vaccinated people who came down with COVID infected others in their household at the same rate (about 25%) as unvaccinated people did (about 23%). The vaccinated had just as much viral load in their upper respiratory tract, making them just as contagious.

The British researchers also found that vaccinated people were only somewhat less likely to contract the virus (25%) compared with the unvaccinated (38%). That conflicts with Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data showing the vaccinated are far less likely to contract COVID.

One thing is for sure: The science is uncertain on this. So, government should not be using a heavy hand to impose mandates claiming to make workplaces safer.

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      1. I read your article. There are several problems with it, but let me highlight one. When a virus (and this is according to current theory) mutates, it does so to become more infectious. If it becomes more infectious, but retains its existing level of toxicity, it kills more people and is thus less likely to survive in the environment because there are fewer hosts. So the theory also states that increased transmissibility is accompanied by a reduction in toxicity. Yes, Delta is more likely to infect, but it is less likely to kill (according to current theory). This is why Ebola outbreaks don’t last – the toxicity is so high that the hosts are likely to die before infecting others so the epidemics peter out on their own.

        And the science is never settled. That is why Big Pharma chose the spike protein as the agent in their vaccines because the theory at the time was that the spike was the injection mechanism, not the actual infection itself. And they got it wrong which is why there is so much discussion about what to do with the vaccines. And that is why I, an engineering graduate, will not be coerced into taking a vaccine that has not been fully tested, where the data is not being properly tracked during testing (fudging) or after delivery (VAERS, Yellow card) because a company making a lot of money on a defective product doesn’t want the public to know that they screwed up.

        As to breakthrough infections, just look at Israel as an example, or Seychelles and compare that data with India, in particular the Goa province which used Ivermectin and where there is now a criminal case against a health advisor for crimes against humanity because she recommended the vaccine. The science is not settled, the testing was incomplete, the data tracking is poor, and people are dying because of the vaccines, not just the original infection. And I retain my right to free choice – my body, my choice, just like pro-choice advocates where it is 100% certain that the child in question will die from the procedure.

        And I respect your right to do as you please for whatever reasons you see fit. Dying is a certainty – living is optional.

        1. What I saw were criminal charges against a WHO chief scientist who BLOCKED the use of Ivermectin in the Indian state of Tamil Nadu

        2. “the theory at the time was that the spike was the injection mechanism, not the actual infection itself.”

          WUT? Do engineering students all make a point of not knowing what they are talking about?

          Oh and Israel has seen its case count collapse. It was vaccines, not horse paste.

        3. Yes my friend, look at Israel other than 2 weeks in July. Their data proves that the Pfizer vaccine massively reduces your chance of infection, hospitalization, and death.

      2. Hi UnMe – new emergent personality eh? Any relation to “Cree Gurl”?

        Quoting NPR too – you hopeless fucking toad.

      3. UnMe never revealed his or her gender so maybe she cam out of the closet as Prairie Girl.

    1. How is it wrong? It’s a study published in the Lancet. Are you questioning its methodology or reporting? If so, on what basis?
      Also, perhaps read these articles you are posting. Everything in all these studies and statements is heavily qualified because the science is far from certain at this stage given the lack of data and time. Typically, that means we proceed caution, not dive head first based on the results that conform to preconceived notions that fit our preferred policy outcomes.

        1. Yes. They also seem compliant in offering up questionable studies commissioned by the WHO. The Lancet these days has damaged its reputation. Much of academic publishing is a racket these days, and Pfizer seems to be a big doner to Lancet.

        2. It wasn’t fraudulent, they just couldn’t hand out the data because of confidentiality agreements.

          Nonetheless, HCQ is not an efficacious COVID treatment.

    2. I’ve never been vaccinated, but if I get Covid again I’ll be sure to spread around lots of antibody coated viruses. You’re welcome!

      It’s amazing the stuff NPR can come up with.

    3. You quote NMPR as Fucking Gospel…LMAO.
      UnMe: Continuing to demonstrate you’re a total moron.

      I’m unvaxxed sonny and have ZERO intention of putting that FILTH into my system…see below as to why:

      Experimental (& under EUA – no requirement to maintain Vial ingredient integrity – could have anything in there)
      Zero Safety studies
      Zero studies by independent orgs stating unequivocally that said jabs have any capability to IMMUNIZE
      Animal tests where 100% of all the animals tested DIED
      ZERO Informed Consent
      Vaccination Definition changed
      Pfizer themselves stating that said jabs are “ONLY to reduce severity of Symptoms”..FFS..!!!

      Tell me again why the Fk I should put this FILTH in my system..??

          1. I hate homos BECAUSE I’m a homo. I’m a self-hating queer. And it hurts. And I’m taking it out on you people. Deal with it.

        1. Because YOU are stupid. Just like thinking a dumb mask with save you.
          Ask yourself. Why in labs where virus are tested us a SCBA system. What means they use full containment suits.
          Not a stupid mask!

          PS… Ask yourself why do the (Amish) have a much lower death rate and lower rate of sickness than everyone else.
          Because they sure in the heck, don’t wear a dang mask.

        2. So you are homophobic as well as segregationist.
          Not sure what I have to deal with, I have some issues but you have a subscription

      1. UnMe is a paid troll. Not sure whether the goal is to creat legal traps, like an ideological agent provocateur.

        1. Your rational and well thought out argument has totally convinced me to change my…
          Wait…
          Sorry, thought I was replying to someone else.

    4. The COVID vaccine clearly reduces transmission

      Relative risk less than 3.0 is statistical noise.

    5. Do you smoke? Weed or cigarettes? What is your BMI? Do you go out to bars? Do you take immunosuppressant medications? Have you had your vitamin D checked?
      I need all your detailed medical records emailed to apartheidisus@gmail.com, before I decide what your covid risk factor is and if you deserve the correct papers to use the same bathroom facilities as others
      Have a good day sir

      1. Yup, and the jabbed keep on the increasing trend in hospital and ICU in BC.

        They were zero a couple months ago, and have steadily increased to 36% reported a day or so ago. And that trend will continue increasing, as the toxic jabs continue to wear off and injure the immune systems. Boosters will only temporarily effective, while immune systems degrade, further filling up ERs and ICUs, along with the vaxx injured souls.

        Bonnie Henry is an incompetent liar, she doesn’t know what do. She is warning THE VAXXED to have small Christmas gatherings, meanwhile Canuck games have 20,000 attendance super spreader events. At what point do the jabbed sheep start pointing out, that they did what they were told, but have to continue to mask up, have small gatherings, and be told to be fearful, despite both jabs?

        Bonnie Nazi is a clearly confused, dishonest hypocrite, that is in “say anything” mode

      2. Yes, that is perfectly as expected. There is a small chance of the vaccinated getting infected. As that population increases, the number of vaccinated infected also increases until it matches that of the unvaccinated and infected. Your post actually supports vaccination.

    6. Still trying to blame bats for Dr Fauci’s Gain of Function.

      You also are desperately trying to avoid the topic, namely does the Jab regularly cause ‘Adverse Events’ (yes – TGA in Australia admit to about 1 in 200) and are any of these ‘Adverse Events’ serious enough to require either GP or hospital emergency support (also yes – surveys endorsed by the TGA suggest 1% of all reported Adverse Events are forced to visit either their GP or hospital.)

      There is ample evidence, even on the Pfizer Shrill sites, that the vaccine has serious side effects.

      There is strong suggestion – naturally enough seriously denied by the parties involved – that the jab is causing deaths. In Australia there is enough reports to suggest that the Jab is killing people at the same rate as Covid.

      So trying to keep the argument on the existence or not of ‘Breakthrough’ cases is deflection. The question is the Vaccine Safe.

      (spoiler? NO)

      (also – If you deny the vaccine is not safe then you lack a deep enough understanding of how risk reduction works and what ‘Safe’ actually means)

      The question you need to be asking is “What level of Risk does the Vaccine have and as a result is it Reasonably Practical to allow it to be used on people?”

  1. Only problem is that it is from the Lancet which shot its credibility as a scientific journal long ago. But it does show that the political climate is shifting.

  2. Yeah, the UK NHS study a few weeks back showed the same thing for anyone who bothered to read the tables. The “vaccines” were mildly effective in reducing transmission in older age groups (over 70), and useless for younger ones.

    The hysteria train won’t be stopped, though.

    1. The UK has shown higher rates of Covid infection in vaccinated persons vs unvaccinated persons for several weeks now, and significantly so.

  3. In the run up to the mass vaccination program, Covid vaxxes were widely sold as the equivalent of sterilizing vaccines as used for Polio. At the very least, the medical authorities were quite content to let masses of people believe that they were equivalent in terms of stopping transmission. Hence the “98% effective” mantra which was widely promoted without a single caveat, such as the length of time within which the vaccine could be expected to be effective. As we are now finding out, effectiveness is measured in months, not years.

    The vaccines were promoted as a way to eradicate the virus, just like Polio, and now we find out that this is actually not the case at all.

    If you were dealing with a business which consistently misrepresented its product and made claims about effectiveness which should have come with qualifications but did not, how confident would you be about buying its product in the future?

  4. Don’t forget Mark Carney (former governor of the Bank of Canada) and Chrystia Freeland (deputy PM) from the David Martin video … shocking

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