From now on, every answer I give on a census will be a lie.
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One of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s closest friends is benefiting from an exclusive agreement between his data analytics company and the Liberal Party of Canada.
Data Sciences Inc, run by Trudeau’s boyhood friend, Tom Pitfield, is providing the party with “digital engagement” and support services for its powerful voter-contact database, Liberalist.
Gov’t has been selling your data for years. I’ve stopped being accurate on forms a couple of decades ago. The paperwork did nothing for me, so figured why should it do anything for the gov’t.
I’m certain I am not on Liberalist.
Really?
Hhmmm ….
I am John Galt…
And while levels of business investment (as a share of GDP) have remained constant in the U.S. over the past four years—ranging from 13.7 per cent in 2014 to 13.6 per cent in early 2018—they have declined in Canada from 13.5 per cent to 11.6 per cent this year.
Crucially, Canadians have increasingly looked to other countries to invest, with the amount Canadians invest abroad rising 74 per cent from 2013 to 2017.
At the same time, foreign direct investment—investment from other countries into Canada—dropped a staggering 55.1 per cent from 2013 to 2017.
OMG…55% over 5 years!
Man oh Man!
Wait till Andrew Scheer hears about this!
Crickets
Leave it to Max to actually do something about it.
If Max wins his seat, that will be the extent of a PPC “victory” the traitor.
Oh and stealing enough votes to get sock boy 4 more years to finish the job of selling Canada out.
Snoooooze.
I won’t hold my breath 🙁
(Not that he hears about it but, rather, that he reacts in any way discernable from a corpse).
Andrew Who?
Well that explains the outrage when Harper decided to get rid of the census long form.
It does, rather, doesn’t it?
Bingo!
Every answer will be a lie . I figured that out about 15 or 20 years ago when a neighbor phoned questioning some of my answers . And I had been answering basically truthfully.
The government has been doing this for years. They say that they redact names and addresses from the data, but they do supply the info by postal code.
This means that a company can access government stats can data, census data , phone numbers, municipal property info, cell phone location info (names redacted, but GPS locations not), credit card info re purchases, credit rating info, facebook and other social media data, etc. and cross correlate this info using big data techniques. You have no secrets.
And of course the government can cross correlate this with medical info, tax info, motor vehicle data, criminal records, parking tickets, tax payments, etc.
Soon this information will be used to create a Canadian social score (CSS). I hear China has done this or is in the process of doing this. We know how much Turdeau admires the current Chinese government.
In China there are stories of people not being able to buy airplane tickets because their social score was too low. What is really scary, is that your social score is influenced by who your social media friends are. For example; if one of your social media friends doesn’t pay his/her parking ticket, then your score goes down too.
In the future Turdeau world, even making comments on SDA will cost you points on your CSS.
Americans – wait for the Democrats to do the same thing.
According to [L. Sweeney, “Simple Demographics Often Identify People Uniquely”. Carnegie Mellon University, Data Privacy Working Paper 3. Pittsburgh 2000] more than 87% of US citizens can be uniquely identified by only: 15-digit ZIP, gender and age. More than half (53%) can be identified by replacing ZIP code with just a LOCATION (city, town, municipality).
So you need to lie about these as well…
–Bad News
Whenever businesses ask me for my postal code when I’m checking out I give them A0B1R0–the postal code for Dildo, Nfld.
If you live in a detached dwelling in Canada the postal code narrows things down to as few as two houses. On my street me and my neighbour share one code. I’m willing to give my Forward Sortation Area (FSA) which is the first 3 characters of the postal code that is shared by thousands of people but the full code is none of their business.
I sometimes give the postal code of the last place I lived in England. “Oh, look,” says Marketing, “a tourist.”
A0A 0A0 is the Hibernia Oil Platform.
Of course the publicly available information along with the tats can census can midentify you uniquely.
once the info is fed into a computer any skilled hacker can get it.
I haven’t filled a census form for over 30 years. About 20 years ago I was taken to court by the government of Canada for failure to fill out the Census form. I was told that I faced a $5000 fine and 6 months in jail. Did not get a lawyer and got the charge thrown out on the fact that the State cannot force you by penalty to give private information to the state.
Remember when people sent tax forms (“protected” in the parlance of Rev Canada) in spring time, then received change of address notices prior to telling the federal gov’t gun registry that they’d moved?
Or was it the other way around?
The story is that Stats Can is reaching into all government databases and financial management systems. Departments are currently working with Stats Can to see what information should be shared.
Its all being shared. We (and the departments) just don’t realize that.
I have never told the truth on any census form and neither did my parents growing up. I outright lie to all pollsters when I don’t just hang up on them. I never use my real name or email for any online communication. When some clown in a car lot or a furniture store wants my name I always give a fake name. Business colleagues know virtually nothing about me. In short, I damn near lie about just about everything. Now just so you don’t think I am totally nuts I have a great group of close friends and family who will often mock my preoccupations but find themselves all too often adopting my ways for themselves as well.
What this almost 40 years of lying has taught me is how precious my privacy is and every year my privacy becomes even more valuable. It pains me to give out any information about myself to anyone unless it is absolutely necessary.
A few years ago I even started carrying around a fake wallet with expired credit cards and useless “information” and just a few bills in it. Got the idea after a friend told me she did that when travelling in dicey areas and it made her feel more secure and confident. Now it becomes habit. “Real ID” is kept in a hidden spot in my home, vehicle and clothing.
Warrior Introvert – “started carrying around a fake wallet with expired credit cards”. I’ve done this for some years, especially when travelling outside Canada. The bills I have in the wallet are Canadian Tire money ;-). To the subject at hand, I’m even paranoid about signing petitions as my name undoubtedly ends up in some government database.
I carry enough of the local currency and $US for that day’s purchases (usually less than $20) so that is the wallet anybody in the market will see me using.
Yoo bin tellin’ the trooth?
I trust Stats Canada is working for the Canadian people as much as CSA is.
It’s a “Government of the people, by the government, for the government.” And by “for the government” I don’t mean for the politicians half as much as I mean for the civil servants.
Part of me thinks you go reverse psychology and give them whatever they axe for: “Nothin to see here folks.” Because they can come and take it and probably will once we’ve gotten to full blown Marxist state and of course that’s when the SHTF.
We need privacy rights enshrined in the Constitution. There’s too much fast and loose play with citizen’s information which lends itself to all sorts of mischief having zero consequence to the perpetrators. Somebody could get elected on this as a platform.
If we lived for another 20 years, I suspect some of us here would be arrested or killed by the government. We aren’t headed for a nice place, this wonderful old county of ours.
oh Im ready for that already.
it’s called ‘take as many of them with you as possible’.
they will win that fight but it. will, cost. them. dearly.
3rd time I EVER held a handgun I placed 20 out of 20 rounds in a circle the spread of my fingers.
2 out of 50 did it that day, the other bloke was the *instructor*.
When Walmart staff ask me if I want to buy a bag, I tell them that I don’t buy bags. Then, when they ask me for my Postal Code, I tell them that getting my Postal Code will cost them a plastic bag.
Dildo Newfoundland….Now thats what I will remember of this particular blog entry….Still LMFAO..!!…I am gonna use that for certain..!
As for pollsters – I bs them everytime – they can kiss my (_i_)…as can Stats Can.
I dont do surveys and use a VPN…always.
Commentary Regarding Big Bro…are bang on and I suspect we will indeed see a Social Score system of some kind, in place in the not too distant future – all designed so that everyone ends up just like the NPC’s – A homogenous colourless humorless humanity…(if it isnt already here.? Silicon Valley already excommunicating anyone who disagrees with the prevailing Group Think)
I Think I’ll skip across into Montana before too long…At last there I can arm Mine & myself.
because the dauphin “admires their basic dictatorshit”
This is exactly what the cpc was trying to prevent.
And this is why it’s not o.k. to fail.
I wonder where the $113million went. Is it fu;lly accounted for?
I’m 30 years ahead of you on this one, Kate. My hobby is lying on ALL surveys, period.
I bet if you pretended to be muslim, you could write any old crap and not be questioned,.
I pretend to be very old and senile if I reply to pollsters. it is amazing how frustrated they can get when you cannot answer simple questions correctly. But my favourite is the people who phone you saying they are calling about viruses on my computer.
phoner. “Sir we are getting messages from your computer saying you have viruses”
me “virusus – oh no I take chicken soup so I don’t have viruses”
phoner, “Sir, your computer has the virus, we are getting messages”
me, “my computer?”
phoner, “Yes sir. your computer is sending us messages”
me, “why would my computer send you messages, I don’t know you”
phoner, ” your computer has a virus”
me, “I don’t think so”
phoner, “yes it does, we are getting messages”
me ” just a minute…. Ralphy says my computer is not sending you messages”
phoner, “Ralphy?”
me ” yep, Ralphy.”
phoner, “Ralphy is wrong, your computer is sending us messages”
me, “Ralphy is never wrong”
phoner, ” who is Ralphy”
me, “he’s my dog”
phoner, ” your dog is telling you your computer does not have viruses”
me “yep, and Ralphy is never wrong”
phoner, “Ralphy the dog is never wrong?”
me, “yes, ever since he died, but he talks to me from the dead.”
phoner, “Sir we are getting error messages from your computer”
me, ” you can’t be, my computer died too”
phoner, ” your computer died?”
me “yes when I gave it chicken soup in the front slot, there were sparks and smoke and doesn’t work anymore”
me” hello, hello. are you there?”
equally fun with pollsters
Ha ha ha, I do the same only I pretend they dialed a Chinese Takeout, put on a broken English/Chinese accent and keep asking them if they want special, Chickee Ball and chickee fried rice, Sweet Sour Chickee Ball. Then I ask them if they got passport, if you got passport I buy passport.
well that tops mine.
I once resorted to making an appt with the ‘duct cleaners’ and kept the truck waiting in the driveway whilst I . . . . . . .
ignored them until they went away.
‘ding ding’ ‘knock knock knock’ ya it was a custom designed ‘knock knock’ joke.
then the ‘computer security’ dude called up.
hello thees ees henry from x sekuridy.
(in an Indian accent) no you are not. you are govenderjin from mumbai. can you tell me how to say fuck off in hindu?
A long time ago I worked for a fellow who owned multiple drugstores.He told me to NEVER give the govt any information if at all possible as they would compile it and sell it to your competitor who would open another store near you.
I have faithfully followed that advice to this day. When my first business was asked to fill out the Stats Canada form I filled it out with “not quit correct” info and then sent the exact same info year after year. Sure saves time in filling out forms.
Yup. Government “serving the taxpayer” again.
The bonfire we celebrate the guillotine party with will be very useful.
What the government cannot measure and take, they assign to private corporations and arm length institutions.
Facebook, instagram, and twitter can censor what the government cannot.
Corporations can conduct research that governments cannot.
Mercenary armies and private companies can do things governments cannot
The future maybe Orwellian, but it will be the Corporations that we need fear.
I mailed back my last census form after scribbling all over it and drowning it in Barq’s root beer with a soggy wet envelope
I always just wrote lies and vulgar cusswords, all across the forms. Calling them all communist c..ksuckers How Canada is not even a Democracy, how your vote is worthless, how Canada has become tax farm, and how the taxpayer is raped daily. etc. Never, ever heard a word back. 25% of Canadians work for Governments at all 3 levels.
Have a client who has had the misfortune, over the years, to be the object of Stats Can “research”. Got to the point of openly telling them that I was unwilling to either burden my client with the cost of pulling together said “research” or doing it myself unless paid by Stats Can. Finally reached an “agreement” where I would do 15 min work max for any given survey. Said surveys disappeared rather quickly.
Am back having to do a survey for same client. Have openly told them (quite truthfully) that my client’s data is really off-the-wall and will do damage to their results. However, they persist. My response has been that they can call me, which they do. I am not registering for any of their on-line stuff. They ask the same questions; I respond with the same answers (often with an “I told you that last time”, and we move on. This particular set of data is easily obtained by a couple of clicks on a given program, so no sweat. I just resent my client being used by them.
One of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s closest friends is benefiting from an exclusive agreement between his data analytics company and the Liberal Party of Canada.
Data Sciences Inc, run by Trudeau’s boyhood friend, Tom Pitfield, is providing the party with “digital engagement” and support services for its powerful voter-contact database, Liberalist.
Gov’t has been selling your data for years. I’ve stopped being accurate on forms a couple of decades ago. The paperwork did nothing for me, so figured why should it do anything for the gov’t.
I’m certain I am not on Liberalist.
Really?
Hhmmm ….
I am John Galt…
And while levels of business investment (as a share of GDP) have remained constant in the U.S. over the past four years—ranging from 13.7 per cent in 2014 to 13.6 per cent in early 2018—they have declined in Canada from 13.5 per cent to 11.6 per cent this year.
Crucially, Canadians have increasingly looked to other countries to invest, with the amount Canadians invest abroad rising 74 per cent from 2013 to 2017.
At the same time, foreign direct investment—investment from other countries into Canada—dropped a staggering 55.1 per cent from 2013 to 2017.
OMG…55% over 5 years!
Man oh Man!
Wait till Andrew Scheer hears about this!
Crickets
Leave it to Max to actually do something about it.
If Max wins his seat, that will be the extent of a PPC “victory” the traitor.
Oh and stealing enough votes to get sock boy 4 more years to finish the job of selling Canada out.
Snoooooze.
I won’t hold my breath 🙁
(Not that he hears about it but, rather, that he reacts in any way discernable from a corpse).
Andrew Who?
Well that explains the outrage when Harper decided to get rid of the census long form.
It does, rather, doesn’t it?
Bingo!
Every answer will be a lie . I figured that out about 15 or 20 years ago when a neighbor phoned questioning some of my answers . And I had been answering basically truthfully.
The government has been doing this for years. They say that they redact names and addresses from the data, but they do supply the info by postal code.
This means that a company can access government stats can data, census data , phone numbers, municipal property info, cell phone location info (names redacted, but GPS locations not), credit card info re purchases, credit rating info, facebook and other social media data, etc. and cross correlate this info using big data techniques. You have no secrets.
And of course the government can cross correlate this with medical info, tax info, motor vehicle data, criminal records, parking tickets, tax payments, etc.
Soon this information will be used to create a Canadian social score (CSS). I hear China has done this or is in the process of doing this. We know how much Turdeau admires the current Chinese government.
In China there are stories of people not being able to buy airplane tickets because their social score was too low. What is really scary, is that your social score is influenced by who your social media friends are. For example; if one of your social media friends doesn’t pay his/her parking ticket, then your score goes down too.
In the future Turdeau world, even making comments on SDA will cost you points on your CSS.
Americans – wait for the Democrats to do the same thing.
According to [L. Sweeney, “Simple Demographics Often Identify People Uniquely”. Carnegie Mellon University, Data Privacy Working Paper 3. Pittsburgh 2000] more than 87% of US citizens can be uniquely identified by only: 15-digit ZIP, gender and age. More than half (53%) can be identified by replacing ZIP code with just a LOCATION (city, town, municipality).
So you need to lie about these as well…
–Bad News
Whenever businesses ask me for my postal code when I’m checking out I give them A0B1R0–the postal code for Dildo, Nfld.
If you live in a detached dwelling in Canada the postal code narrows things down to as few as two houses. On my street me and my neighbour share one code. I’m willing to give my Forward Sortation Area (FSA) which is the first 3 characters of the postal code that is shared by thousands of people but the full code is none of their business.
I sometimes give the postal code of the last place I lived in England. “Oh, look,” says Marketing, “a tourist.”
A0A 0A0 is the Hibernia Oil Platform.
Of course the publicly available information along with the tats can census can midentify you uniquely.
once the info is fed into a computer any skilled hacker can get it.
I haven’t filled a census form for over 30 years. About 20 years ago I was taken to court by the government of Canada for failure to fill out the Census form. I was told that I faced a $5000 fine and 6 months in jail. Did not get a lawyer and got the charge thrown out on the fact that the State cannot force you by penalty to give private information to the state.
Remember when people sent tax forms (“protected” in the parlance of Rev Canada) in spring time, then received change of address notices prior to telling the federal gov’t gun registry that they’d moved?
Or was it the other way around?
The story is that Stats Can is reaching into all government databases and financial management systems. Departments are currently working with Stats Can to see what information should be shared.
Its all being shared. We (and the departments) just don’t realize that.
I have never told the truth on any census form and neither did my parents growing up. I outright lie to all pollsters when I don’t just hang up on them. I never use my real name or email for any online communication. When some clown in a car lot or a furniture store wants my name I always give a fake name. Business colleagues know virtually nothing about me. In short, I damn near lie about just about everything. Now just so you don’t think I am totally nuts I have a great group of close friends and family who will often mock my preoccupations but find themselves all too often adopting my ways for themselves as well.
What this almost 40 years of lying has taught me is how precious my privacy is and every year my privacy becomes even more valuable. It pains me to give out any information about myself to anyone unless it is absolutely necessary.
A few years ago I even started carrying around a fake wallet with expired credit cards and useless “information” and just a few bills in it. Got the idea after a friend told me she did that when travelling in dicey areas and it made her feel more secure and confident. Now it becomes habit. “Real ID” is kept in a hidden spot in my home, vehicle and clothing.
Warrior Introvert – “started carrying around a fake wallet with expired credit cards”. I’ve done this for some years, especially when travelling outside Canada. The bills I have in the wallet are Canadian Tire money ;-). To the subject at hand, I’m even paranoid about signing petitions as my name undoubtedly ends up in some government database.
I carry enough of the local currency and $US for that day’s purchases (usually less than $20) so that is the wallet anybody in the market will see me using.
Yoo bin tellin’ the trooth?
I trust Stats Canada is working for the Canadian people as much as CSA is.
It’s a “Government of the people, by the government, for the government.” And by “for the government” I don’t mean for the politicians half as much as I mean for the civil servants.
Part of me thinks you go reverse psychology and give them whatever they axe for: “Nothin to see here folks.” Because they can come and take it and probably will once we’ve gotten to full blown Marxist state and of course that’s when the SHTF.
We need privacy rights enshrined in the Constitution. There’s too much fast and loose play with citizen’s information which lends itself to all sorts of mischief having zero consequence to the perpetrators. Somebody could get elected on this as a platform.
If we lived for another 20 years, I suspect some of us here would be arrested or killed by the government. We aren’t headed for a nice place, this wonderful old county of ours.
oh Im ready for that already.
it’s called ‘take as many of them with you as possible’.
they will win that fight but it. will, cost. them. dearly.
3rd time I EVER held a handgun I placed 20 out of 20 rounds in a circle the spread of my fingers.
2 out of 50 did it that day, the other bloke was the *instructor*.
When Walmart staff ask me if I want to buy a bag, I tell them that I don’t buy bags. Then, when they ask me for my Postal Code, I tell them that getting my Postal Code will cost them a plastic bag.
Dildo Newfoundland….Now thats what I will remember of this particular blog entry….Still LMFAO..!!…I am gonna use that for certain..!
As for pollsters – I bs them everytime – they can kiss my (_i_)…as can Stats Can.
I dont do surveys and use a VPN…always.
Commentary Regarding Big Bro…are bang on and I suspect we will indeed see a Social Score system of some kind, in place in the not too distant future – all designed so that everyone ends up just like the NPC’s – A homogenous colourless humorless humanity…(if it isnt already here.? Silicon Valley already excommunicating anyone who disagrees with the prevailing Group Think)
I Think I’ll skip across into Montana before too long…At last there I can arm Mine & myself.
because the dauphin “admires their basic dictatorshit”
This is exactly what the cpc was trying to prevent.
And this is why it’s not o.k. to fail.
I wonder where the $113million went. Is it fu;lly accounted for?
I’m 30 years ahead of you on this one, Kate. My hobby is lying on ALL surveys, period.
I bet if you pretended to be muslim, you could write any old crap and not be questioned,.
I pretend to be very old and senile if I reply to pollsters. it is amazing how frustrated they can get when you cannot answer simple questions correctly. But my favourite is the people who phone you saying they are calling about viruses on my computer.
phoner. “Sir we are getting messages from your computer saying you have viruses”
me “virusus – oh no I take chicken soup so I don’t have viruses”
phoner, “Sir, your computer has the virus, we are getting messages”
me, “my computer?”
phoner, “Yes sir. your computer is sending us messages”
me, “why would my computer send you messages, I don’t know you”
phoner, ” your computer has a virus”
me, “I don’t think so”
phoner, “yes it does, we are getting messages”
me ” just a minute…. Ralphy says my computer is not sending you messages”
phoner, “Ralphy?”
me ” yep, Ralphy.”
phoner, “Ralphy is wrong, your computer is sending us messages”
me, “Ralphy is never wrong”
phoner, ” who is Ralphy”
me, “he’s my dog”
phoner, ” your dog is telling you your computer does not have viruses”
me “yep, and Ralphy is never wrong”
phoner, “Ralphy the dog is never wrong?”
me, “yes, ever since he died, but he talks to me from the dead.”
phoner, “Sir we are getting error messages from your computer”
me, ” you can’t be, my computer died too”
phoner, ” your computer died?”
me “yes when I gave it chicken soup in the front slot, there were sparks and smoke and doesn’t work anymore”
me” hello, hello. are you there?”
equally fun with pollsters
Ha ha ha, I do the same only I pretend they dialed a Chinese Takeout, put on a broken English/Chinese accent and keep asking them if they want special, Chickee Ball and chickee fried rice, Sweet Sour Chickee Ball. Then I ask them if they got passport, if you got passport I buy passport.
well that tops mine.
I once resorted to making an appt with the ‘duct cleaners’ and kept the truck waiting in the driveway whilst I . . . . . . .
ignored them until they went away.
‘ding ding’ ‘knock knock knock’ ya it was a custom designed ‘knock knock’ joke.
then the ‘computer security’ dude called up.
hello thees ees henry from x sekuridy.
(in an Indian accent) no you are not. you are govenderjin from mumbai. can you tell me how to say fuck off in hindu?
A long time ago I worked for a fellow who owned multiple drugstores.He told me to NEVER give the govt any information if at all possible as they would compile it and sell it to your competitor who would open another store near you.
I have faithfully followed that advice to this day. When my first business was asked to fill out the Stats Canada form I filled it out with “not quit correct” info and then sent the exact same info year after year. Sure saves time in filling out forms.
Yup. Government “serving the taxpayer” again.
The bonfire we celebrate the guillotine party with will be very useful.
What the government cannot measure and take, they assign to private corporations and arm length institutions.
Facebook, instagram, and twitter can censor what the government cannot.
Corporations can conduct research that governments cannot.
Mercenary armies and private companies can do things governments cannot
The future maybe Orwellian, but it will be the Corporations that we need fear.
I mailed back my last census form after scribbling all over it and drowning it in Barq’s root beer with a soggy wet envelope
I always just wrote lies and vulgar cusswords, all across the forms. Calling them all communist c..ksuckers How Canada is not even a Democracy, how your vote is worthless, how Canada has become tax farm, and how the taxpayer is raped daily. etc. Never, ever heard a word back. 25% of Canadians work for Governments at all 3 levels.
Have a client who has had the misfortune, over the years, to be the object of Stats Can “research”. Got to the point of openly telling them that I was unwilling to either burden my client with the cost of pulling together said “research” or doing it myself unless paid by Stats Can. Finally reached an “agreement” where I would do 15 min work max for any given survey. Said surveys disappeared rather quickly.
Am back having to do a survey for same client. Have openly told them (quite truthfully) that my client’s data is really off-the-wall and will do damage to their results. However, they persist. My response has been that they can call me, which they do. I am not registering for any of their on-line stuff. They ask the same questions; I respond with the same answers (often with an “I told you that last time”, and we move on. This particular set of data is easily obtained by a couple of clicks on a given program, so no sweat. I just resent my client being used by them.